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whats better for a lvl 161 nl?
15 dex face stomper
7 atack 4 dex face stomper
help me out =o
wobbufet
2008-07-12, 11:25 AM
7 attack. 1 attack equals like 7~8 luk at that level.
snaga
2008-07-12, 11:39 AM
im disappointed thats even a question :(
7 atk is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better
im disappointed thats even a question :(
7 atk is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better
Gab says 15 dex 2 atk is better :s
snaga
2008-07-12, 11:44 AM
we all know gabs is an idiot :P
as above poster said 1 atk = 7ish luk
(2x 7)+15 = 29+1 = 30 "stats"
(the +1 is assuimg your base dex increases by 11, meaning one less base luk from MW)
(7x7)+ 4 = 53 ish "stats"
53 > 29
what about
5 atk 4 dex/0 dex
15 dex 2 atk
=o
snaga
2008-07-12, 11:55 AM
23 vs 39 "stats"
Hazzy
2008-07-12, 12:02 PM
Ignore everyone here. Take the 15 Dex and give me the worthless 7 Atk Shoes.
Zaotsu
2008-07-12, 12:05 PM
5 att 0 dex is still better. Even a 4 att 0 dex would add roughly the same amount as a 15 dex 2 att.
JoeTang
2008-07-12, 01:34 PM
You should also consider the amount of NX it would cost to reset 15 DEX, and/or the attack difference of the Claw the extra DEX would allow you to wear.
Retalion
2008-07-12, 07:11 PM
I think the voting makes the answer obvious: 14-0
Ps: put the stats of the facestompers in the poll. It'll help those who find the poll on the site's front page easier to vote.
wobbufet
2008-07-12, 07:15 PM
Just act like 1 atk is the equivalent of 7 DEX, that way you can easily figure out which one is better. For a lvl 16x NL that is, don't take this as a guideline for every character.
rippleinthewater
2008-07-12, 09:02 PM
Gab says 15 dex 2 atk is better :s
What a dildo Night Lord.
Sinful
2008-07-12, 10:42 PM
Gabs is stupid, that is all..
7 atk for the win, unless you're a dexless attempting sleeve.
rippleinthewater
2008-07-12, 10:46 PM
Gabs is stupid, that is all..
7 atk for the win, unless you're a dexless attempting sleeve.
unless you're a stupid dexless* attempting Sleeve, because sacrificing the prominent stat being weapon attack for the novelty of being dexless makes you a fucking moron.
Kigaz
2008-07-12, 10:53 PM
unless you're a stupid dexless* attempting Sleeve, because sacrificing the prominent stat being weapon attack for the novelty of being dexless makes you a fucking moron.
being a dexless sleeve user is a fuck load better than being a regular dexless NL using a skanda (assuming the sleeve is very well off scrolled)
being dexless is better because of the LUK given by MW and being a dexless-high lvl claw user is the best because higher leveled claws can be scrolled with more attack
edit: anyway, use the 7 atk stompers
LUK=ATK is more than 7 at 16x..
rippleinthewater
2008-07-12, 10:57 PM
being a dexless sleeve user is a fuck load better than being a regular dexless NL using a skanda (assuming the sleeve is very well off scrolled)
being dexless is better because of the LUK given by MW and being a dexless-high lvl claw user is the best because higher leveled claws can be scrolled with more attack
And I wholeheartedly agree. What I was trying to issue is.. okay let an example do the illustrating:
You're dexless and 15 DEX points shy of being able to equip a Sleeve. I'm bashing on the people that would buy 15 DEX snowshoes -- or case in point, 15 dex Face Stompers -- just for the novelty of being dexless when they in turn could raise their base to be able to equip a higher attack Face Stomper.
Kigaz
2008-07-12, 11:22 PM
And I wholeheartedly agree. What I was trying to issue is.. okay let an example do the illustrating:
You're dexless and 15 DEX points shy of being able to equip a Sleeve. I'm bashing on the people that would buy 15 DEX snowshoes -- or case in point, 15 dex Face Stompers -- just for the novelty of being dexless when they in turn could raise their base to be able to equip a higher attack Face Stomper.
Agreed unless you have a good reason.
lets say youre using a 62 atk casters (all hypothetical) and using 7 atk stompers with w/e dex; but you need 15 dex to use a sleeve.
id only upgrade to that sleeve if it had at least 70 atk, even though youre losing 5 atk from down grading from a 7 to a 2 atk stomper, you gain 8 atk from the sleeve making your gain 3 atk :D
worth it imo :P especially if youre just switching shoes.
then again, you need some fucking badass equips to get enough dex to wear a sleeve and be dexless
my friend was a dexless craven user (until he quit) and he had godly ass equips (and a perfect craven might i add)
Proxy
2008-07-13, 10:24 AM
The 7 att / 4 dex is better. :f6:
Mopsy
2008-07-13, 08:23 PM
Agreed unless you have a good reason.
lets say youre using a 62 atk casters (all hypothetical) and using 7 atk stompers with w/e dex; but you need 15 dex to use a sleeve.
id only upgrade to that sleeve if it had at least 70 atk, even though youre losing 5 atk from down grading from a 7 to a 2 atk stomper, you gain 8 atk from the sleeve making your gain 3 atk :D
worth it imo :P
Or you could add the 15 to your base dex and get an 8 attack increase, and a 1-3 attack decrease from the base dex you spend.
Which was, I believe, his original point.
FantaTwist
2008-07-14, 05:38 AM
Yeah #2 beats #1 by far.
i made 5 atk fs LOL 4 SLOTS MORE x3
s>15 dex fs @@@@ xD
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