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Outland
2009-01-18, 03:06 PM
Could someone explain to me why the amount of meso bags you drop affects the damage?

With maxed M.E. (Mastery 100%, explodes up to 20 bags), if I were to drop one 5k bag it would do 10-15k damage.

If I dropped ten 5k bags, each would do 20-35k damage.
If I dropped twenty 5k bags, each would do 40-75k damage.

If I dropped ten 50k bags, each would do 50-90k damage.
If I dropped twenty 50k bags, each would do 100-135k damage.

I'm estimating the damage because the numbers move too fast to give specifics, but the estimations should be about right.

How come just dropping one bag of mesos won't do the same damage it would do if twenty bags of the same amount were dropped? (And just wondering, but has any version of MS ever changed Meso Explosion in some way?) If the damage range of each bag is dependant on the amount of bags you drop, shouldn't that be something important to put in its description?



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I wanted to be more specific with the damage so I tested it several times. This is the damage I saw.
Monsters used - Indigo Eyes and Crystal Boars
Maxed M.E. -
One :||||||||1k bag = 4-8k||||||||||||||5k bag = 14-22k||||||||||||||50k bag = 23-44k

Five :||||||||1k bag = 5-7k||||||||||||||5k bags = 13-22k|||||||||||||50k bag = 23-44k

Ten :|||||||||1k bag = 8-12k||||||||||||5k bags = 27-42k|||||||||||||50k bag = 47-84k

Fifteen :||||||1k bag = 9-21k||||||||||||5k bags = 51-61k|||||||||||||50k bag = 90-116k

Twenty :||||||1k bag = 14-21k||||||||||5k bags = 41-62k|||||||||||||50k bag = 80k-127k

I didn't test twenty 50ks as much because half way through I realized I just blew up 11m. Anyone wanna compensate me...? Please? (I'm serious...)

*The question is the same, why doesn't dropping one bag do the same damage as bags dropped in a pile of twenty?

MyHarryThing
2009-01-18, 06:11 PM
Maybe bags after 6 add up, since it doesn`t show more than 6 numbers.

»-Chris->
2009-01-18, 06:24 PM
I'm guessing by the fact that the numbers our double that it didn't calculate every single one and just added up every 2.

Outland
2009-01-18, 06:41 PM
Maybe bags after 6 add up, since it doesn`t show more than 6 numbers.

That's what I'm beginning to think too. The damage of twenty 18k hits would be the same as the damage of six 60k hits. (Using the numbers from 5k bags) Makes sense, but I'm still kinda unclear about it. Is that how the showing of damage was designed? If you do more than six hits would the numbers just add up together?

Shippo the Fox
2009-01-18, 06:55 PM
I only see the first 5 hits. The 6th Hit damage gets stacked onto the 1st, the 7th on the 2nd and so on.

Outland
2009-01-18, 07:08 PM
I see. Makes sense now. Thanks guys.

LF> 11m. It ran away...

Heliocentric
2009-01-18, 08:20 PM
I'm pretty sure Meso Explosion had some kind of bonus damage added if you explode the maximum amount of bags, or I could be wrong.

Mejust
2009-01-19, 10:01 AM
If you explode more than one bags, there's a damage multiplier in effect which goes up to 1.5 after some bags. I don't know after how many bags that is, though.

Devil
2009-01-19, 10:21 AM
Meso Explosion:

5th Damage number = Meso Bag 5,10,15,(20 -> Amount of mesos = Not important) - Each More Bag = Higher Bonus Multiplier
4th Damage number = Meso Bag 4,9,14,(19 -> Amount of mesos = Not important) - Each More Bag = Higher Bonus Multiplier
3rd Damage number = Meso Bag 3,8,13,(18 -> Amount of mesos = Not important) - Each More Bag = Higher Bonus Multiplier
2nd Damage number = Meso Bag 2,7,12,(17 -> Amount of mesos = Not important) - Each More Bag = Higher Bonus Multiplier
1st Damage number = Meso Bag 1,6,11,(16 -> Amount of mesos = Not important) - Each More Bag = Higher Bonus Multiplier

Most effective damage = dropping 15x 8k Mesos + 5x 10 Mesos