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Fiel

2008-07-11, 10:30 PM

There were several changes to this battle in 1.2.158. Please read the spoilers to see what has changed

PB(W)
- Can now summon 6 mini-beans at a time. His MATK up skill was removed.

PB(S)
- Knockback increased from 70k to 140k

Ariel (C)
- Knockback increased from 60k to 120k

Scholar Statue (FL)
- Knockback increased from 50k to 100k

Scholar Statue (FR)
- Knockback increased from 50k to 100k

Hawk Statue (ML)
- Knockback increased from 50k to 100k
- Is now Fire Resistant (previously Fire Immune)

Hawk Statue (MR)
- Knockback increased from 50k to 100k
- Is now Ice Resistant (previously Ice Immune)

Mini-Beans
CURRENT (PREVIOUS)
- LEVEL: 150 (130)
- HP: 303k (138k)
- Physical Attack: 700 (640)
- Physical Def: 1200 (1050)
- Magic Attack: 800 (720)
- Magic Def: 1200 (650)
- Avoid: 50 (46)
- EXP: 11,000 (6,800)
- KB: 30k (10k)
- Elemental: Strong to poison, Weak to Ice, Weak to Fire (N/A)

In this document, I will be making references to several locations and mobs.

Throne Room (TR) = The place where you fight Pink Bean
ML or MR = Middle Left or Middle Right (Hawk statues)
FL or FR = Far Left or Far Right (Scholar statues)
Ariel (C) = The center statue above Pink Bean. I sometimes call it C for center because Ariel is the center statue.
Pink Bean (PB) = Duh, the guy you fight. There are two forms of him that I refer to, PB(W) (Weak) and PB(S) (Strong). I'll go into more detail later.

The nature of this battle is not as it seems in many images shown through Insoya so far. Let's have a look at the image that they showed us:

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/map21kw4.jpg

In the TR, you will face a series of six stages, each with increasing difficulty. Here's the order of battle:

STAGE 1: FL PB(W)
STAGE 2: FL PB(W) FR
STAGE 3: FL ML PB(W) FR
STAGE 4: FL ML PB(W) MR FR
STAGE 5: FL(2) ML(2) C PB(W) MR(2) FR(2)
STAGE 6: PB(S)

The (2)'s in Stage 5 is because they get slight upgrades at this stage. I'll go more over this later.

PB(W) refers to the other form of PB. In this form, you cannot hit him and he cannot hit you. All he does is sit on the throne the entire match, taunts you (hilarious animations too), and buffs up the enemies. PB(S) refers to the form of PB with 2.1B HP and does nasty attacks and has 23k touch damage. After you defeat Stage 5, PB(W) disappears in a puff of smoke and reappears in a flash of light and begins letting all hell break loose on you as PB(S).

So, let's go over this as total HP:

STAGE 1: 300M = 300M HP
STAGE 2: 300M + 300M = 600M HP
STAGE 3: 300M + 450M + 300M = 1.05B
STAGE 4: 300M + 450M + 450M + 300M = 1.5B
STAGE 5: 300M + 450M + 600M + 450M + 300M = 2.1B
STAGE 6: 2.1B = 2.1B

Add all that up...
300M + 600M + 1.05B + 1.5B + 2.1B + 2.1B = 7.65B HP

In the following, I won't be giving out pure animations. There are over 1000 frames to go through and well... I don't have a script to make GIFs like that (if only I did).

Pink Bean (W)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820000-1.png
핑크빈
Level: 180
HP: 1
MP: 1000
Boss: 1

Skill1-1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill13.png), Skill1-2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill145.png) - Heals all enemies for 30,000 HP and 20,000 MP

Skill2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill241.png) - Gives ATK up to all members around him

Skill3 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill37.png) - Boosts WDEF of all enemies

Skill4-1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill46.png), Skill4-2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill472.png) - Boosts MDEF of all enemies

Skill5-1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill561.png), Skill5-2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill57.png) - Summons 6 Mini-Beans

Skill6-1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill65.png), Skill6-2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill661.png) - (In this animation, he eats the beef, belches, then gets tired and goes to sleep) - Raises MDEF to all members around him

Skill7-1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill718.png), Skill7-2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill736.png), Skill7-3 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill791.png) - Raises WDEF of all enemies

Skill8-1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill88.png), Skill8-2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill884.png) - Raises WATK of all members

Scholar Statue (FL)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820003-4.png
현자 솔로몬
Level: 180
HP: 300000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 3000000
Physical Attack: 1440
Physical Defense: 1540
Magic Attack: 770
Magic Defense: 1980
Avoid: 50
KB: 100k
Boss: 1

Attack1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack111.png) - Super Knockback, 1/1

Attack2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack28.png) - 50% chance to Seal, Lightning elemental, Magical

Attack3 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack39.png) - 900 physical attack

After you kill this boss, he does not "die" so to speak. He fizzes out and returns. After he returns, you can't hit him until you've defeated all of the other bosses for that particular stage. On Stage 5, he is slightly different and stronger.

현자 솔로몬
Level: 180
HP: 300000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 3000000
Physical Attack: 1500 <---
Physical Defense: 1500 <--
Magic Attack: 830 <--
Magic Defense: 1940 <--
Avoid: 52 <--
KB: 100k
Boss: 1

Attack 3 is also changed to have 960 PADamage. Also, once you kill this form he fizzes out and disappears. Other than these few changes, this boss is relatively the same.

Hawk Statue (ML)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820005-6.png
휘긴
Level: 180
HP: 450000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 3500000
Physical Attack: 1580
Physical Defense: 1600
Magic Attack: 900
Magic Defense: 2030
Avoid: 52
KB: 100k
Boss: 1

Skills: 143, 144, 145, Seal, Weakness, Magic defense up, Attack up
Elements: Resistant to fire, weak to ice

Attack1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack110.png) - 100% chance for Slow, Magical, Fire Attribute

Attack2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack215.png) - Drops boulders from the sky, 60% chace of stun for 2 seconds, 1000 physical attack

Skill1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill110.png) - No idea what it does. These are completely brand new images. This skill can have any of three possible effects. I'll have to see their effects in a video --> http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/143level1mob0.pnghttp://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/144level1mob0.pnghttp://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/145level1mob0.png

Skill2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill26.png) - Can cause any of the following four status effects - (1) 90% probability to seal, (2) 70% probability for weakness, (3) MDEF up, (4) ATK up

At stage five:
휘긴
Physical Attack: 1640 <--
Physical Defense: 1560 <--
Magic Attack: 960 <--
Magic Defense: 1990 <--
Avoid: 54 <--

Ariel (C)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820002-3.png
아리엘
Level: 180
HP: 600000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 20000000
Physical Attack: 1650
Physical Defense: 1700
Magic Attack: 1300
Magic Defense: 2150
Avoid: 54
KB: 120k
Boss: 1

Elements: immune to holy, strong to fire, strong to lightning, strong to ice

Attack1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack15.png) - causes a beam of light to fall out of the sky at the player, 100% chance for darkness

Attack2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack28-1.png) - Drops a boulder directly below itself, 100% chance for 10 second stun, 1/1

Skill1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill114.png) - 70% probability for ??? (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/133level1affected0.png) (has the info in korean, it says 언데드화)

Here's the other data for the skulls:

<table><tbody><tr><td>133.level.1.info</td><td>언데드화</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.mpCon</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.x</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.interval</td><td>60</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.time</td><td>20</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.prop</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.0.origin.x</td><td>18</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.0.origin.y</td><td>118</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.0.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.0.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.0.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.1.origin.x</td><td>20</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.1.origin.y</td><td>120</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.1.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.1.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.1.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.2.origin.x</td><td>20</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.2.origin.y</td><td>122</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.2.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.2.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.2.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.3.origin.x</td><td>20</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.3.origin.y</td><td>121</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.3.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.3.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.3.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.4.origin.x</td><td>19</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.4.origin.y</td><td>120</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.4.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.4.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.4.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.5.origin.x</td><td>20</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.5.origin.y</td><td>119</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.5.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.5.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.5.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.6.origin.x</td><td>19</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.6.origin.y</td><td>118</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.6.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.6.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.6.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.7.origin.x</td><td>18</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.7.origin.y</td><td>115</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.7.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.7.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.7.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.8.origin.x</td><td>18</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.8.origin.y</td><td>114</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.8.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.8.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.8.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.9.origin.x</td><td>18</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.9.origin.y</td><td>115</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.9.delay</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.9.image</td><td>file:///D:/Maplestory/KMST/Skill/MobSkill.img/133.level.1.affected.9.png</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.affected.repeat</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.lt.x</td><td>-800</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.lt.y</td><td>-600</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.rb.x</td><td>800</td></tr> <tr><td>133.level.1.rb.y</td><td>250</td></tr></tbody></table>

Skill2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill24.png) - (one of the following) (1) Heal all enemies by 20k HP and 5k MP, (2) send out a poison cloud that poisons you at a 90% rate with 2k damage per second, (3) physical immunity, (4) magical immunity

Pink Bean (S)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820001-2.png
핑크빈
Level: 180
HP: 2100000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 50000000
Physical Attack: 1700
Physical Defense: 1700
Magic Attack: 1200
Magic Defense: 2100
Avoid: 55
KB: 140k
Boss: 1

Elements: strong to P, strong to holy, strong to fire, strong to ice

Attack1 (http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack1.gif) - Hits a genesis-like attack. 60% chance for stun for 5 seconds, magical

Attack2 (http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack2.gif) - Exploding fireballs hit you. 1500 physical attack and super knockback

Attack3 (http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack3.gif) - drops Treble Cleff symbols on your head. 50% chance of psycho status for 5 seconds

Attack4 (http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack4.gif) - Slams his tail down on the ground. 100% chance for seal and 1/1.

Skill1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill17.png) - Summons 12 mini Pink Beans (ones with helicopters on head)

Skill2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill27.png) - http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/145level1mob0.png

Skill3 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill38.png) - http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/133level1affected0.png

By looking at all of his attacks, I'm noticing that the ranges seem to only affect the people in front of him. It might be a good idea for warriors to aggro him into a corner and for ranged people to slam him from his back side a la Tengu.

Hawk Statue (MR)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820006-7.png
무닌
Level: 180
HP: 450000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 3500000
Physical Attack: 1600
Physical Defense: 1580
Magic Attack: 950
Magic Defense: 2050
Avoid: 53
KB: 100k
Boss: 1

Elements: Resistant to ice, weak to fire

Attack1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack110-1.png) - 100% chance of darkness for 10 seconds, magical, ice elemental

Attack2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack213.png) - ??? http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/132level1affected0.png Here's what the WZ files say:

<table><tbody><tr><td>132.level.1.info</td><td>눈돌아가는 해골</td></tr> <tr><td>132.level.1.x</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>132.level.1.time</td><td>15</td></tr> <tr><td>132.level.1.prop</td><td>100</td></tr></tbody></table>

Skill1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill110-1.png) - Interesting, this skill has a "banMessage" associated with it. Here's what it says in Korean - 석상의 힘에 의해 다른 장소로 쫓겨났습니다. It bans you to map 270040000 and that map is called "신전 깊은 곳 : 부서진 회랑". More information in spoiler:

Here's what that map 270040000 looks like:

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/miniMapcanvas.png

From there, you should be able to use a return scroll to get out. There's nobody in this room.

If you do use a return scroll, you'll go to map 270000000 which is called 타임로드 : 시간의 신전 and has a map description of "시간의 여신을 모시는 신전이다. 과거와 현재 그리고 미래의 시간이 공존하고 있다." Here's what 270000000 looks like:

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/miniMapcanvas-1.png

There's one NPC in this room. His name is 신전관리인. Here are some of the other things he says:

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/stand0.png
"여신의 꿈을 방해하지 마십시오."
"이번 달 시간의 미아 명단을 볼까..."
"일반 참배객은 받지 않습니다."
"여신은 눈뜨지 않습니다. 태어난 그 순간부터 지금까지, 그리고 앞으로도 영원히 그녀는 잠들어 있습니다. 어쩌면 우리의 삶은 그녀가 꾸는 꿈일지도 모르죠."

Skill2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill28.png) - Psycho for 10 seconds with 100% success rate

Stage 5:
Physical Attack: 1660 <--
Physical Defense: 1540 <--
Magic Attack: 1010 <--
Magic Defense: 2010 <--
Avoid: 55 <--

Scholar Statue (FR)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/KMST12157/8820004-5.png
현자 렉스
Level: 180
HP: 300000000
MP: 50000
EXP: 3000000
Physical Attack: 1480
Physical Defense: 1580
Magic Attack: 750
Magic Defense: 2000
Avoid: 51
KB: 100k
Boss: 1

Skills: 132, Dispel, Dispel, Defense up

Attack1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack111-1.png) - Super knockback, 1/1

Attack2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack28-2.png) - 60% probability for 5 second stun, magical, lightning element

Attack3 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack38.png) - 1000 physical attack

Skill1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill15.png) - ??? http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/132level1affected0.png or dispel

Berzerk

2008-07-12, 12:44 AM

Holy shit, this is the ultimate boss battle. 7.65Bill HP? LOL. Thank you for the info, Fiel.

Ashley

2008-07-12, 12:47 AM

Wow.
Sounds incredibly fun. Can't wait to see more about this. :O

Magus

2008-07-12, 12:55 AM

PB(W) refers to the other form of PB. In this form, you cannot hit him and he cannot hit you. All he does is sit on the throne the entire match, taunts you (hilarious animations too), and gives you status abnormalities. PB(S) refers to the form of PB with 2.1B HP and does nasty attacks and has 23k touch damage. After you defeat Stage 5, PB(W) disappears in a puff of smoke and reappears in a flash of light and begins letting all hell break loose on you as PB(S).

Could we see these animations, please? :D

Saver

2008-07-12, 12:55 AM

...jeez...

That sounds like some serious boss fight. Though I like the music related to this battle, I don't think that it's enough to keep players fighting this boss for 3+ hours.

Back on topic, 6 stages...interesting. The battle sounds easy in the beginning, while it gets much harder near the middle and end.
I'm curious how this pink thing moves / jumps, if it does.
Actually, I'm curious how 30 players will fit on this map without bumping into the statues.
Can't wait for the animations :3

If only dispel was taken away <_<.

Magus

2008-07-12, 01:04 AM

Saver

2008-07-12, 01:07 AM

I assume that PB(W) isn't the one with the crazy physical attack damage.

If it is...one psycho = death for most.

Edit1: Reread: Whew, he can't hit you.

Fiel

2008-07-12, 01:11 AM

I messed up on that speed stat in the previous topic. PB(W) is stationary. PB(S) has -50 speed and is fully mobile.

Also, to save me time, I won't be posting animations. I'll just be posting still frames that'll give you the gist.

Saver

2008-07-12, 01:59 AM

PB(S) has -50 speed and is fully mobile.
Just to throw out as a reference, that's the same speed as a blue snail; a bit slower than pap by 10 speed.
So when you're up and battling against the final form, imagine fighting a blue snail...on super steroids.

Sounds simple enough to teleport around or haste-jump over.

NEW QUESTION! Since Pap could be slowed down with a magician's slow skill, though a boss, could the same be done to Pink Bean?

Nikkey

2008-07-12, 02:03 AM

Just to throw out as a reference, that's the same speed as a blue snail; a bit slower than pap by 10 speed.
So when you're up and battling against the final form, imagine fighting a blue snail...on super steroids.

Sounds simple enough to teleport around or haste-jump over.

NEW QUESTION! Since Pap could be slowed down with a magician's slow skill, though a boss, could the same be done to Pink Bean?

I suppose. Warriors can probably rush that thing as well, lol.

Muse

2008-07-12, 03:41 AM

Uh.. Can someone fill me in on what this PinkBean thing is about? From the image, it looks like a retarded Wigglytuff.

DrRusty

2008-07-12, 03:43 AM

that PB(S) link isnt work for me =(, how do i open it?

»-Chris->

2008-07-12, 10:35 AM

I suppose. Warriors can probably rush that thing as well, lol.
They would need a lot of hp to do that with the high touch damage.

Nikkey

2008-07-12, 10:47 AM

They would need a lot of hp to do that with the high touch damage.

14-15k dmg with PG and HB, and actually, you don't usually hit the monster if you rush it. Unless you're on an edge or so

Fiel

2008-07-12, 03:43 PM

Moved to public. Enjoy guys.

Rain

2008-07-12, 03:45 PM

Wow i didn't think that the pikachu thing would be a bean xd
Sounds incredibly cool thanks for posting!

Sora

2008-07-12, 04:04 PM

I'm worried about the well-being of a ranged party going into this fight. Super knockback? Into one of those statues? And touch damage is what? :x

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 04:25 PM

Holy. I love the different faces. xD

But holy cow, this looks epic. Quite an improvement from Horntail. XD
I can't wait to see a video. :]

Fiel, any chance you can make a script to make the GIFs? Aren't they all named like PinkBeenAtkSkill1.png, PinkBeenAtkSkill2.png, ect.? Should be easy? :[

Zaotsu

2008-07-12, 04:29 PM

Oh fun, 184 accuracy needed at level 180 for those statues...

Fiel, is there any significance to you using member instead of enemy at times in his skill descriptions? Or is it just to provide sentence variety?

Maybe the boss will create some use for Power / Armor / Magic crash besides Horntail now, depending on how much the buffs effect the statues.

aznegglover

2008-07-12, 04:31 PM

..

The hardest boss in MS is a pink Pikachu?

Hero

2008-07-12, 04:35 PM

It's not a damn pikachu. -_- Have any of you even played pokemon, seriously. Fiel, wordfilter 'pikachu' to 'i'm a faggot' or something. It's annoying.

Conciente

2008-07-12, 04:38 PM

LOL, I can't stop laughing at its animations. He even drinks from a glass!!! hahahaha

I'm glad Nexon took a different route for this boss. I was tired of the darkish battles(Zakum, HT)...

Worthyness

2008-07-12, 04:41 PM

I love these animations for this pinky thing
SO Awesome xD

can't wait to find out more =P

So using one of these attacks in my avatar xD

Afrobean

2008-07-12, 04:57 PM

It's cute and all, but endgame bosses should be tough and dark and evil.

I'm not against a cute boss, I mean. I just don't like the idea of this thing being the hot shit that it apparently is.

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 05:00 PM

It's cute and all, but endgame bosses should be tough and dark and evil.

I'm not against a cute boss, I mean. I just don't like the idea of this thing being the hot shit that it apparently is.

This is coming out in the same release for 120 weapons, so obviously there's going to be more.
When level 190/200 weapons come out, with a Boss, I can see them release an epic end-game boss.

Afrobean

2008-07-12, 05:02 PM

This is coming out in the same release for 120 weapons, so obviously there's going to be more.
When level 190/200 weapons come out, with a Boss, I can see them release an epic end-game boss.
But because this is an online game, whatever is the current highest level content, THAT is endgame. It doesn't matter if endgame will shift in a few years or a few months even.

For example, Zakum used to be endgame. Horntail is now for us. How would it be if Zakum was all jokey and not hardcore at all, and someone tried justifying it by saying "oh don't worry, you'll get a serious boss in a few years lol".

Chompy

2008-07-12, 05:10 PM

Cactuar

2008-07-12, 05:12 PM

But because this is an online game, whatever is the current highest level content, THAT is endgame. It doesn't matter if endgame will shift in a few years or a few months even.

For example, Zakum used to be endgame. Horntail is now for us. How would it be if Zakum was all jokey and not hardcore at all, and someone tried justifying it by saying "oh don't worry, you'll get a serious boss in a few years lol".

-facepalm-

I'm getting so tired of seeing people whining about this boss. "fomg itz 2 cuuut y cant we hav nothr ht?????????" This boss is crazy, and makes HT look like a joke. Who says end game bosses have to look like they come out of your standard DnD manual? As far as I see it, this boss sees you as a complete joke (and as well it should). Can you name anything more insulting than having someone eat, sleep, read, and do other things while still kicking your ass?

So quit whining about it not being "serious". If you could just walk into people and kill them, you'd think they were a joke too.

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 05:13 PM

But because this is an online game, whatever is the current highest level content, THAT is endgame. It doesn't matter if endgame will shift in a few years or a few months even.

For example, Zakum used to be endgame. Horntail is now for us. How would it be if Zakum was all jokey and not hardcore at all, and someone tried justifying it by saying "oh don't worry, you'll get a serious boss in a few years lol".

What's so bad about a jokey boss? Do we have to have all of our bosses these omnious mini-gods? Obviously when Nexon Korea made this, they were going for a humor boss run, instead of a "Ok, let's do this. *holds down shift* *falls asleep*" boss.
Besides, at this day and age, eight billion HP sounds like a lot, but so did Zakum's 400m-ish, back in the day. Now people are soloing it, and parties can take it out in minutes. After we get more 4th job weapons, Pink Pikachu will still be a strong boss, but it won't be an unbeatable god. At that point, it'll hardly be "hard core".

If you could just walk into people and kill them, you'd think they were a joke too.

Very well said. :cool: :cool:

Worthyness

2008-07-12, 05:22 PM

Is it possible to have animations for the skills yet? 0_o

Just curious. I wouldn't know what to do with them if i had access to them xD

Nikkey

2008-07-12, 05:32 PM

Holy crap, what kind of drugs have Nexon Korea used while they made this one? It's great though, I love it.

Hero

2008-07-12, 05:40 PM

Stereo

2008-07-12, 05:48 PM

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 05:49 PM

Papulatus is a really serious boss too, btw. Oh, so is a giant goldfish that shoots lazer beams from it's mouth.

That'd be pianus.

OT: Pink Been is awesome, I like this concept of a boss much more than HT-like bosses. :heart:

Porter

2008-07-12, 05:50 PM

nice stuff, i cant wait to take this on when gms finally get it.

Raven

2008-07-12, 05:55 PM

The animations for Pink Been are making me cry, it's the coolest thing thats happened to MapleStory for a LONG time. This is how MapleStory should have been, folks.

Hero

2008-07-12, 05:55 PM

That'd be pianus.

OT: Pink Been is awesome, I like this concept of a boss much more than HT-like bosses. :heart:

"Oh, so is" implies that I'm not talking about pap anymore. obv.
:redface:

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 05:56 PM

"Oh, so is" implies that I'm not talking about pap anymore. obv.
:redface:

Oooops :eek:

Will

2008-07-12, 06:00 PM

Wow 7.5bil is just too much

Pink bean is so unique though with its weird actions...

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 06:01 PM

Can't wait to see how everybody will say that it's impossible to kill and excellent killing it 1st/2nd try :P

PeePeeAyeDeeKay

2008-07-12, 06:02 PM

LOL, those skill animations for Pink Bean(W) are indeed hilarious for such a high leveled boss.

Looks like you fight a total of 16 parts (same statues but differant forms) :f6: Seems pretty epic.

Moti

2008-07-12, 06:07 PM

Wow, the animations made me laugh so hard. Especially the Skill 7 one. This boss looks so epic, not a "OGM A 3 HEADED DRAGON HES GONNA EAT MY BRAINS" boss.
Good job Nexon Korea. 8D

Fiel

2008-07-12, 06:08 PM

I got murdered by ribbon pigs when I first played MS >_>

Fiel, how are the skill/base animation images numbered? It's relatively easy to import numbered sequences to Adobe Imageready as animations, and then just tweak the per-frame speed and save them. You might even be able to set it up as a batch process.

They're numbered sequentially. Sometimes, though, an image has a pointer to another image saying, "Use this image instead of a new one in the sequence". It makes the program faster.

Also, all of the images are of variable size. They have to be centered and whatnot with different offsets than are given in the files (requires a mathematical transpose). I know all the math to do this myself, but so far every GIF animation I've ever made from Maple has been made by hand.

My only problem is that all of the GIF animators I know of only allow you to put the offsets into the program and I can't generate them with a script to put them in the program myself. I know Koolk has made an animator. He said he made it with PHP. However, sometimes I wonder how he does it.

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 06:11 PM

They're numbered sequentially. Sometimes, though, an image has a pointer to another image saying, "Use this image instead of a new one in the sequence". It makes the program faster.

Also, all of the images are of variable size. They have to be centered and whatnot with different offsets than are given in the files (requires a mathematical transpose). I know all the math to do this myself, but so far every GIF animation I've ever made from Maple has been made by hand.

If you can do it, can't you write a program that does it?
If not, can you make a few teaser-animations? >:P

*Just saw your addition*
How do you get the off set value? o_0

Moti

2008-07-12, 06:19 PM

I'm interested about the animations of PB (S). Are they the same as (W), or are they different? Could you extract some of them please? :)

Fiel

2008-07-12, 06:23 PM

I'm interested about the animations of PB (S). Are they the same as (W), or are they different? Could you extract some of them please? :)

They are entirely different. It'll take me a bit to get there through writing this guide. Just sit tight.

Moti

2008-07-12, 06:26 PM

Alright. Thanks again for the information.
Makes me think if he suddenly becomes into a fierce beast with evil attacks. xD

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 06:28 PM

Alright. Thanks again for the information.
Makes me think if he suddenly becomes into a fierce beast with evil attacks. xD

I think he will actually :f6:
That's what I'm expecting anyways :P

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 06:31 PM

I think he will actually :f6:
That's what I'm expecting anyways :P

But this Pikachu's so sexy!
:f4:

This guy wants to be sexy like Pikachu too. :[
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1072/709000208_4955e9e2ab.jpg?v=0

Raven

2008-07-12, 06:31 PM

If they add a stage 7 with an opera singer in the backround music (one winged angel anyone) and a beefed up pink bean... Wow.

srevwetv

2008-07-12, 06:34 PM

Of all that I have seen of his boss, I have yet to hear an answer to this question.

How exactly do you go about starting the fight for the boss? What is required to prepare for the boss, quest wise?

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 06:39 PM

Seeing as Fiel hasn't said anything about items, I'm guessing it just spawns. It's in testing, so they'll work that out later. xP

Fiel

2008-07-12, 06:44 PM

I'm not sure how the actual fight begins. The reactors weren't changed to demonstrate any of this.

Stereo

2008-07-12, 06:48 PM

Also, all of the images are of variable size. They have to be centered and whatnot with different offsets than are given in the files (requires a mathematical transpose). I know all the math to do this myself, but so far every GIF animation I've ever made from Maple has been made by hand.

Oh right, forgot MS makes all images as small as possible and uses offsets to centre them on each other, rather than just using sequences the same size.

Would it be possible to post specifics on the buffs he uses? (numbers for w.atk/w.def up) I'm curious how much damage he's gonna do. (btw does Priest's Dispel work on these skills? Maybe the new ones are un-dispelable watk/wdef up without being immunity)

Raven

2008-07-12, 06:53 PM

Oh right, forgot MS makes all images as small as possible and uses offsets to centre them on each other, rather than just using sequences the same size.

Yeah :/

I wouldn't mind doing some of the more important pb GIFs if fiel is willing to send the frames my way.

Acim

2008-07-12, 07:01 PM

Holy shit, this is the ultimate boss battle. 7.65Bill HP? LOL. Thank you for the info, Fiel.

Surrounded by statues that have tons of HP as well.

Thanks for the info, and lol at the Pikachu guy.

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 07:03 PM

Surrounded by statues that have tons of HP as well.

Thanks for the info, and lol at the Pikachu guy.

7.65b HP was including the statues... :wink:

Flintlock

2008-07-12, 07:04 PM

I'm gonna guess that the "boss" variable is just a boolean with two values: 0 and 1.

Awesome stuff, you better get proper credit for this.

PROTIP: Contact Insoya.

Fiel

2008-07-12, 07:10 PM

I'm gonna guess that the "boss" variable is just a boolean with two values: 0 and 1.

Awesome stuff, you better get proper credit for this.

PROTIP: Contact Insoya.

Signing up for their forums requires a KSSN. I don't have one and I don't know of anyone that does that's on the website yet (lol ZYXWVUT).

Also, I thought of a different approach to the animation problem. It should save me some time.

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 07:10 PM

Signing up for their forums requires a KSSN. I don't have one and I don't know of anyone that does that's on the website yet (lol ZYXWVUT).

Also, I thought of a different approach to the animation problem. It should save me some time.

There's a few people here that play kMS, doesn't that require a KSSN? :f6:

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 07:11 PM

There's a few people here that play kMS, doesn't that require a KSSN? :f6:

It does, but with a KSSN you can make up to 10 (?) KMS accounts, they have friends in Korea who make a KMS account for them...

Raven

2008-07-12, 07:17 PM

There's a few people here that play kMS, doesn't that require a KSSN? :f6:

Yeeeeees, although some people steal KSSNs, which is beyond my moral threshold personally...

Arcanum

2008-07-12, 07:17 PM

I hope there's a lunch break or something.

Raven

2008-07-12, 07:20 PM

I hope there's a lunch break or something.

Yeah... although if you had a few people taking turns at the PC it might not be so bad... If you could get a few people.

Kigaz

2008-07-12, 07:23 PM

wait im kind of confused on how this works
STAGE 1: FL PB(W)
STAGE 2: FL PB(W) FR
STAGE 3: FL ML PB(W) FR
STAGE 4: FL ML PB(W) MR FR
STAGE 5: FL(2) ML(2) C PB(W) MR(2) FR(2)
STAGE 6: PB(S)
Do you have to kill FL in every stage (5)? Or is it like you kill FL then FR then ML then FR then C then PB(S) summons and you kill that?

Fiel

2008-07-12, 07:27 PM

Kill him in every stage.

I thought that would have been evident by reading the "totaling the HP" bit.

Kigaz

2008-07-12, 07:30 PM

Kill him in every stage.

I thought that would have been evident by reading the "totaling the HP" bit.

i skimmed :)
thats effing insane though x_____x;;

»-Chris->

2008-07-12, 07:37 PM

Wow, nice animation frames. Funny =P

DrRusty

2008-07-12, 07:49 PM

Its supposed to be the "God" of time in maple right? Wouldnt it have made more sense to make him look like some kind of angel or something instead of a pink rat

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 07:50 PM

Its supposed to be the "God" of time in maple right? Wouldnt it have made more sense to make him look like some kind of angel or something instead of a pink rat

Don't think about making sense, maple doesn't!

srevwetv

2008-07-12, 07:50 PM

I noticed another thing. o_o The statues seem to be sitting on top of platform thingies, and the ones in the middle of the pic seem to be sitting above the Player's head.

Does this mean that warriors have to jump to hit them, and any other player that can't hit above their heads?

aznegglover

2008-07-12, 07:57 PM

It's OBVIOUSLY a subliminal message

The Nexon staff secretly worship Pikachu!

wobbufet

2008-07-12, 07:58 PM

It's OBVIOUSLY a subliminal message

The Nexon staff secretly worship Pikachu!

Wobbufet kills pikachu in episode #1337, look it up on youtube!

Devil

2008-07-12, 07:58 PM

So this boss doesn't dispell right? Because I can't find any leads that it would use dispell... :o

Btw, full-screen 10k+ attacks... is that a bye bye for Night Lords / Bowmasters / Marksmen?

DrRusty

2008-07-12, 08:07 PM

:f3:
Can't wait to see how everybody will say that it's impossible to kill and excellent killing it 1st/2nd try :P

well Eternity did a 30 somethin minute HT run i think yesterday, and if this thing has twice as much HP as horntail, then it shoulnt take them more than an hour and a half at most with some practice :f3:

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-12, 08:18 PM

:f3:

well Eternity did a 30 somethin minute HT run i think yesterday, and if this thing has twice as much HP as horntail, then it shoulnt take them more than an hour and a half at most with some practice :f3:

3 times+ more HP, and they wouldn't get half and hour run for awhile.

Seriously, Onyx Apples destroyed bossing.

DrRusty

2008-07-12, 08:28 PM

i think a huge angel boss would have been better as an ending boss

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SA3CTXuGyP8

like that

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-12, 08:33 PM

i think a huge angel boss would have been better as an ending boss

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SA3CTXuGyP8

like that

Giant "anythings" are grossly overdone as final bosses. A Pink Bean/Pokemon-lookalike that taunts you constantly throughout the fight that then goes on to kick your ass personally is on of the best boss ideas possible.

Raven

2008-07-12, 08:36 PM

Giant "anythings" are grossly overdone as final bosses. A Pink Bean/Pokemon-lookalike that taunts you constantly throughout the fight that then goes on to kick your ass personally is on of the best boss ideas possible.

And then turns into a kefka ripoff with an additional 3.7 billion hp per tier, YES PLEASE NEXON.

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 08:40 PM

Its supposed to be the "God" of time in maple right? Wouldnt it have made more sense to make him look like some kind of angel or something instead of a pink rat

Why should a god look like an angel?
Maybe this is based off of a religion other than Christianity?

Holypie

2008-07-12, 08:56 PM

also, since noone has mentioned this, why does PB(W) buff 'members' and 'enemies'? does this mean he buffs you? if so, SUH-WEET

Hazzy

2008-07-12, 09:01 PM

ROFL!
That would be awesome if he gave you a 20 Atk Buff every few minutes. <3
BURN APPLES BUUUUUUUURN!

Raven

2008-07-12, 09:20 PM

Why should a god look like an angel?
Maybe this is based off of a religion other than Christianity?

Exactly. Poster is so simple minded, I mean look at some of the hari krishna god/demi god renditions, none look like classic christian angels. Christianity isn't everything. *sticks out tongue*

ThisIsSal

2008-07-12, 09:23 PM

dude, -AWESOME-

I love this, it's so cool.

kudos to them Koreans for smoking the weed like crazy while designing boss fights.

Michelle

2008-07-12, 10:09 PM

Confusing because I'm not good at following things like this :f4:

Why is PB so cute? >_<

Raven

2008-07-12, 10:13 PM

I have a feeling they already know your site, Fiel.

http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=bbs12&no=257

Flintlock

2008-07-12, 10:30 PM

Chinchilla delivers it!...overseas.

We have koreans here. Next time, they should put the full URL instead.

Fiel

2008-07-12, 10:35 PM

Next time, I'll just upload the information to the local server and they can link from that.

MasPan

2008-07-12, 10:47 PM

I suppose. Warriors can probably rush that thing as well, lol.

We can rush any other mobile target, so why not? Esp considering its 70k knockback value, it will be really easy to even with others attacking, as nobody will be doing too much KB to it :redface:

-edit-
Those buffs seem interesting
Some possibilities -
Weapon block - prevent weapon skills/normal attacks/magic attacks
Armor block - lower player def/mdef to 0
Dual block - prevent attacking AND lower def stats...

Just some thoughts, based on the images.

303aegiszx

2008-07-12, 10:52 PM

I think the same people who are complaining about this boss are the same ones who said "OMG PLEEEAAASSSEEEE NERF HT. ITZ TOO STRONG FOR US!"

Zaotsu

2008-07-12, 10:54 PM

If anything, I'd guess those new symbols on the Hawk statues are like a Physical guard for Melee / Ranged / Both (Sword, looks like a Steely in a way, both combined) or just the outright blocking of those attacks in general while it's up.

KWSN

2008-07-12, 10:56 PM

wait... confusion, does pink bean buff the people attacking it or just the support statues with some of its skills?

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-12, 10:57 PM

We can rush any other mobile target, so why not? Esp considering its 70k knockback value, it will be really easy to even with others attacking, as nobody will be doing too much KB to it :redface:

70k Knockback? That actually sounds like a completely good reason for people to take Marksmen over Bowmasters for other reasons than being Short on BM's for Sharp Eyes.

With Snipe and its slow speed, they can keep it knocked back incase it gets to close.

Flintlock

2008-07-12, 11:00 PM

Purple color and a skull imply that those status effects have some sort of negative effect. I'm with MasPan.

Zaotsu

2008-07-12, 11:03 PM

Well jeez. With 55 avoidability in its (S) form, a warrior's gonna need 202 or so accuracy to hit it at 180. A 170 would need 275, and a 175 would need 238.

Edit: Then again, a +3 HT Pendant would probably suffice for the accuracy requirements, whenever it's fixed.

MasPan

2008-07-12, 11:04 PM

70k Knockback? That actually sounds like a completely good reason for people to take Marksmen over Bowmasters for other reasons than being Short on BM's for Sharp Eyes.

With Snipe and its slow speed, they can keep it knocked back incase it gets to close.

An ideal PB squad would probably include a KB party filled with heros/paladins/marksmen/possibly a DrK (for HB and rush). DP doesnt work on bosses, but Sniping/The charge-up skill can deal some massive damage for KB, then there's Panic with a 10 orb combo + SE, as well as Holy Charge + Blast + SE, and then DrK can rush or spam HB (using sacrifice to do enough damage to KB bean would mean the user takes 15% of 70k+ damage, which is...not a good idea...). With onyx apples, the job of providing knockback could be handled even more easily.

-Another possibility to consider, and an alarming one at that, is that the skills are de-equip skills. As in, the sword de-equips all weapons (meaning you are helpless to re-equip them without some downtime, unless they are auto-re-equipped, which may pose some problems for lowSTAT classes (NLs in particular). The circle could be de-equip armor (which may force a de-equip on weapon), and the double symbol both.

EngelRod

2008-07-12, 11:27 PM

That boss reminds me of a pet. I can imagine in the near future a Pink Being pet lol :cool:

PeePeeAyeDeeKay

2008-07-13, 12:09 AM

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/143level1mob0.pnghttp://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/144level1mob0.pnghttp://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/145level1mob0.png

Well.. Those 3 buff icons they look like Debuff Buffs. What I mean by Debuff Buff is, its a Buff the mob uses to Debuff players.

If you guys want my opinion on it...

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/143level1mob0.png Looks to be Physical.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/144level1mob0.png Looks to be Magical.
http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/145level1mob0.png Looks to be Hybrid (both Physical and Magical)

The Skull and Purple glow suggests some type of "Curse" skill.

-Some type of Guard skill? Seems likely.
-De-equipping equips? Possible, but maybe a bit harsh?

-Could it possibly be a buff that works like Mana Reflection? Player does X dmg to target (Mid Left Hawk Statue), Y dmg is inflicted onto player?
-Possibly lower the player's Physical and or Magical atk dmg for a certain amount of time when the target is attacked?

Stereo

2008-07-13, 12:18 AM

70k Knockback? That actually sounds like a completely good reason for people to take Marksmen over Bowmasters for other reasons than being Short on BM's for Sharp Eyes.

With Snipe and its slow speed, they can keep it knocked back incase it gets to close.

On the other hand, the centre statue can hit for almost 14k Magic attack, meaning any characters with under 8.5k base hp need to stay the hell away from him, hopefully that attack's range doesn't cover the entire map:f6:

Cactuar

2008-07-13, 12:29 AM

If these are WATT de-buffs, you can say good bye to any chance of GMS using apples to kill this thing.

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-13, 12:32 AM

On the other hand, the centre statue can hit for almost 14k Magic attack, meaning any characters with under 8.5k base hp need to stay the hell away from him, hopefully that attack's range doesn't cover the entire map:f6:

Oh well, they're shit out of luck. More room for the Shadowers and Paladins!

Seriously, I hope they don't run around and weaken this boss because people run around yelling nerf again cause their NL's get raped again.

EDIT @ Cactaur: No Onyx Apples? HELL YEAH!

Loose

2008-07-13, 12:36 AM

If these are WATT de-buffs, you can say good bye to any chance of GMS using apples to kill this thing.
They can just focus on killing those statues first (assuming those are the only ones that cast those spells), then Apple Up.

I hope that it's like a Mana Reflection skill, it'll make things more interesting. Everyone has to hold their fire, except Shadowers (Boomerang Step). : P

Cactuar

2008-07-13, 12:37 AM

Oh well, they're shit out of luck. More room for the Shadowers and Paladins!

Seriously, I hope they don't run around and weaken this boss because people run around yelling nerf again cause their NL's get raped again.

EDIT @ Cactaur: No Onyx Apples? HELL YEAH!

I said "if". I have no idea what they do, but they certianly look bad. Also, the reason HT was nerfed was because of the 30k magic attacks it SPAMED.

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-13, 12:55 AM

You know the skull image that the Center Statue uses just yells out "Doom" status to me.

Derek

2008-07-13, 12:57 AM

I'm really excited about this boss, and I love it. People need to stop being all "srs bizniz" and realize that all bosses don't have to be dark and scary and HUGE like Zak/HT >_>

*waits to see if gifs can be made* :D

Great work as always, Fiel!

Cactuar

2008-07-13, 01:04 AM

You know the skull image that the Center Statue uses just yells out "Doom" status to me.

If it doomed, that'd be awesome. I think it's a more advanced version of blind, or maybe even it's like control screw up of ArPQ? The skulls look similar.

EDIT: It involves being frozen some how. Or that's it's name. It also has dead in it's name "Frozen Dead Tuesday"? That's what I got with messing with it in the translator (only spacing characters). It worked well for finding out the mobs anyway.

Fiel

2008-07-13, 01:34 AM

Just did up a few animations:

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack1.gif

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack2.gif

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack3.gif

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/PinkBean/attack4.gif

IsaacGS

2008-07-13, 01:55 AM

EngelRod

2008-07-13, 02:12 AM

Seeing the animations I feel like KMS forgot when April Fool's was. This is such a joke of a boss, it's almost embarrassing to know something this goofy can kill me and always will be able to kill me, regardless of level.

And the fact that it doesn't fit at all with the time temple theme, It looks for me like a boss for a low leveled PQ lol, but that's just me :redface:

EDIT:
lol I noticed the thing did an archmage's sort of attack, it looks cool for a pet design but not for an endgame boss.

FelixTM

2008-07-13, 02:12 AM

When I made a post on SW talking about how awesome Bean's attacks look, I got a lot of responses for my source. I've been PMing several people to come check out this great site.

Hope it helps. <3 Thanks for the info!

Wastrel

2008-07-13, 02:13 AM

Fucking. Awesome. I want to be high leveled to fight this mother fucker.

Are those all of his spells?

Also, requesting his death animation.

Loose

2008-07-13, 02:40 AM

It's gonna kill Magicians with Big Bang.

Nice animations, I love 'em.

Zephyr

2008-07-13, 02:41 AM

Fucking. Awesome. I want to be high leveled to fight this mother fucker.

Are those all of his spells?

Also, requesting his death animation.

with that hp? i doubt it has one xd

also, this is awesome, i love how you give us all this information, i (and i believe more people) appreciate what you do ;D

»-Chris->

2008-07-13, 04:11 AM

with that hp? i doubt it has one xd

also, this is awesome, i love how you give us all this information, i (and i believe more people) appreciate what you do ;D

Lol make a hard enough boss so they don't have to make one? Too bad KMS' customer service is good, and the lack of glitches too.

Shinokun

2008-07-13, 04:57 AM

언데 means undead. But can't figure out what 드화 means. I think it's suppose to be "to make undead".

Cactuar

2008-07-13, 05:02 AM

언데 means undead. But can't figure out what 드화 means. I think it's suppose to be "to make undead".

That'd be funny. Bishops spam heal and kill their parties. Wow, now that I think about that, it's just horrible. Bishops would be made a problem, not something helpful.

Raven

2008-07-13, 06:49 AM

I have a feeling that the person who's getting this information from southperry and posting it on insoya (And also got it from SW before) also knows english ;o
Atleast babelfish and say hi!

rattown

2008-07-13, 07:27 AM

definately the most adorable boss ever !! pokes him playing with his rc car ... XD

PeePeeAyeDeeKay

2008-07-13, 08:07 AM

Skill1 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/skill114.png) - 70% probability for ??? (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/133level1affected0.png) (has the info in korean, it says 언데드화)

Possibly Zombie Status? The affected user's skull animation thing looks quite logical.

언데 means undead. But can't figure out what 드화 means. I think it's suppose to be "to make undead".

언데드화 - translates into Undead
Shinokun says - "I think it's suppose to be "to make undead"."

What does this have to do with Zombies?

The area, Time Temple, deals with Time.

Life + Time eventually leads to death. A Zombie would be a dead corpse that has been reanimated.

Afrobean

2008-07-13, 09:57 AM

Papulatus is a really serious boss too, btw. Oh, so is a giant goldfish that shoots lazer beams from it's mouth.
This is how a "silly" kind of boss should be done. It appears to not be ferocious at all, but taking a look at his full moveset and the damage he (and his summons) does, it is apparent that the first impression isn't the right one. Pap and Pianus are the same in this regard. Seeing their standing image might not strike terror into your soul, but their attacks certainly come off as proving them as worthwhile endeavors.

There are a few of the skills that I've seen of this boss today that look pretty good. The joke ones are just over the top though.

And yes, the game was built on things which are sort of silly, but that is all low level things. Everything beyond like 3rd job has a certain level of seriousness to it. I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of a boss such as this (for instance, I really like the way Pap looks, stylistically), I am just turned off by the out-of-place campy-ness.

In addition, what of the level 120 weapon set? They don't fit the boss's theme here. I was expecting something along the lines of the physical embodiment of Death, or at least something skeletal. I'd say Ergoth looks more likely to be dropping the 120 set than this pink guy.

Jones

2008-07-13, 10:00 AM

Boss's name is"Pink Been",isn't"Pink Bean"

Afrobean

2008-07-13, 10:28 AM

Boss's name is"Pink Been",isn't"Pink Bean"
I've always wondered why Night Loads attack with stars. I guess it's for the same reason Battle Roads are armor. Seems like such an obvious fit. Then again, when we have Wizards walking about Bracing Poison everywhere, it's not much of a surprise.

Hint: "Night Lord" is correct, "Night Load" is not. "Battle Lord" is what it should be, "Battle Road" is what it is. "Poison Brace" is wrong, you'll find that it is now called "Poison Breath".

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-13, 10:34 AM

We're going to need some sort of "advanced" All-Cure or something.

Sinnuendo

2008-07-13, 11:09 AM

Wow, Zombie status and unequipping stuff. That'd be a bitch. >_>

I'm guessing that the Heal damage from zombie status (if that's what it is) would be the same as for any regular undead monster?

Roxas

2008-07-13, 12:06 PM

My personal view on the Zombie status : It appears on your head, and as a buff. It has a timer of x seconds. When x seconds pass, your character will die. That's just my imagination.

Devil

2008-07-13, 01:00 PM

My personal view on the Zombie status : It appears on your head, and as a buff. It has a timer of x seconds. When x seconds pass, your character will die. That's just my imagination.I think the zombie (or undead) status will just turn the healing of priests into damaging their party members instead.

So only the best heal / dispell bishops will be wanted for this boss, because 1 bishop will be responsible for killing his/hers entire party, if not the whole boss run.

Also maxed Holy Shield will be a requisite for Bishops to be allowed to enter, since it will protect them for the humiliation for their failure if they heal their party to death... Bishops will need to have some actual skill for this boss... Can't help to imagine so many Bishops will fail here because most just spam heal/dispell keys atm at bosses like zakum without using any part of their brain... And I don't even want to think about lagging bishops that are 10 seconds behind of their party with healing... :')

Something like this:
Undead status effect applied....heal....heal....heal....heal.... "Oh shiet, I killed me hole party! Zorry ppls!" :+)

Alloy

2008-07-13, 01:00 PM

My personal view on the Zombie status : It appears on your head, and as a buff. It has a timer of x seconds. When x seconds pass, your character will die. That's just my imagination.

Uhm... Maybe that skill that cured seduce... cures this one too...

(can't remember the name :p)

Germ

2008-07-13, 01:24 PM

Toolmeiser

2008-07-13, 03:18 PM

It seems this boss will force people to make use of all classes to defeat it. I hope the strategy for this battle will be a bit more intricate than just having night lords and bishops.

Alloy

2008-07-13, 05:22 PM

And now that I think, the statue at the center can only be reached through ultimates?

Sinnuendo

2008-07-13, 05:22 PM

My gosh. This is ridiculous. Seems like Pallys are gonna have trouble on the Ariel statue, immune to Holy. What a bummer.
Can you confirm what PBs weaknesses are Fiel?

@Roku - Kinda like Doom from Final Fantasy right?

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=662

Strong to everything except Lightning and Poison (although I REALLY doubt it can actually be Poisoned, it's probably just the initial hit). I'm still thinking the ??? immunity is for Snipe and Heaven's Hammer.

Kabanaw

2008-07-13, 06:06 PM

Sinnuendo

2008-07-13, 06:25 PM

Well, with paralyze it doesn't even poison, but has a high base att.

I completely forgot that Paralyze was Poison-based. xP

So at least Archmages can spam CL/Paralyze on PB. xP

Fiel

2008-07-14, 02:10 PM

Hey guys, if you wouldn't mind helping me with translating stuff for the newest hawk statue I put up, that'd be excellent.

ZartMorder

2008-07-14, 02:34 PM

http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=662

Strong to everything except Lightning and Poison (although I REALLY doubt it can actually be Poisoned, it's probably just the initial hit). I'm still thinking the ??? immunity is for Snipe and Heaven's Hammer.
It was pointed out over here (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=931) that the ??? is for physical resistance. Perhaps the intention is to make mages more useful in the fight, but in reality it sounds like the fight will be ridiculous.

Alloy

2008-07-14, 02:41 PM

Hey guys, if you wouldn't mind helping me with translating stuff for the newest hawk statue I put up, that'd be excellent.

If there was something in spanish in the data, I could help, aaaand since that's never going to be the case, I'll go hide under a rock for a while.

Sinnuendo

2008-07-14, 03:03 PM

It was pointed out over here (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=931) that the ??? is for physical resistance. Perhaps the intention is to make mages more useful in the fight, but in reality it sounds like the fight will be ridiculous.

Actually, I realized earlier that if it IS only resistant to physical (and not immune), that it would still take half the damage from attacks, meaning the standard NLs and Bowmasters will still be there for the last phase (if they don't like...get raped by his damage >_>).

Also, that post was yesterday, and I think the thread that explains the ??? resistance was posted today.

Yoorah

2008-07-14, 03:10 PM

We're going to need some sort of "advanced" All-Cure or something.
aka Hero's Will. If you read the skill description, it has a master level of 10, and says that it can remove more status effects as you increase its level. But, right now, you can only put one point into it, and it cures Seduce. Perhaps they'll unlock that skill so you could put more points into it and have it able to dispel these new curses as well.

Fiel

2008-07-14, 03:11 PM

aka Hero's Will. If you read the skill description, it has a master level of 10, and says that it can remove more status effects as you increase its level. But, right now, you can only put one point into it, and it cures Seduce. Perhaps they'll unlock that skill so you could put more points into it and have it able to dispel these new curses as well.

Then you'd think they'd have changed that in the WZ files? I didn't see anything about changing it.

Perhaps this stuff can be undone with an all cure?

Afrobean

2008-07-14, 03:15 PM

Then you'd think they'd have changed that in the WZ files? I didn't see anything about changing it.

Perhaps this stuff can be undone with an all cure?
Or maybe Holy Shield will finally have a purpose outside a pre-emptive Dispel.

Yoorah

2008-07-14, 03:23 PM

Then you'd think they'd have changed that in the WZ files? I didn't see anything about changing it.

Perhaps this stuff can be undone with an all cure?

Is the boss actually released in-game, or is it only sitting in the data? Even if it is released, don't forget that this is only the first test release. They'll need additional patches to sort out the kinks.

Or maybe Holy Shield will finally have a purpose outside a pre-emptive Dispel.

Even at max level, Holy Shield only covers the party for a small fraction of the time. It will help out (it helps out a lot at HT already), but I doubt that it will be the main solution. >_>

PeePeeAyeDeeKay

2008-07-14, 03:55 PM

Mid Right Hawk Statue (Translated using Google Translator - Korean ~> English)

"Attack2 - Skull with Green Glow" Ariant PQ much?

Attack2 (http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/attack213.png) - ??? http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/132level1affected0.png Here's what the WZ files say:

<table><tbody><tr><td>132.level.1.info</td><td>눈돌아가는 해골</td></tr> <tr><td>132.level.1.x</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>132.level.1.time</td><td>15</td></tr> <tr><td>132.level.1.prop</td><td>100</td></tr></tbody></table>

"132.level.1.info 눈돌아가는 해골" translates into "132.level.1.info Skeletal nundolahganeun". Adding a space between the 1st and 2nd characters, "눈 돌아가는 해골", it comes out as "Skeletal eyes back".

Same skull as the one from Ariant PQ, the one that makes your arrow keys opposite. (up=down,down=up,left=right,right=left)

Holding down the Arrow Key to 1 side and hugging the wall just isnt as easy anymore :f6: Now you gotta see what's on your character...:f7:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Skill 1 - Expelled from Map"

Interesting, this skill has a "banMessage" associated with it. Here's what it says in Korean - 석상의 힘에 의해 다른 장소로 쫓겨났습니다. It bans you to map 270040000 and that map is called "신전 깊은 곳 : 부서진 회랑". More information in spoiler:
Interesting, this skill has a "banMessage" associated with it. Here's what it says in Korean - statues by the power of other places out of range. It bans you to map 270040000 and that map is called "deep temple: shattered corridor". More information in spoiler:

Here's what that map 270040000 looks like:

From there, you should be able to use a return scroll to get out. There's nobody in this room.

If you do use a return scroll, you'll go to map 270000000 which is called 타임로드 : 시간의 신전 and has a map description of "시간의 여신을 모시는 신전이다. 과거와 현재 그리고 미래의 시간이 공존하고 있다." Here's what 270000000 looks like:
Here's what that map 270040000 looks like:

From there, you should be able to use a return scroll to get out. There's nobody in this room.

If you do use a return scroll, you'll go to map 270000000 which is called load-time: the temple of time and has a map description of "a living temple to the goddess of time past and present and the future of the time and coexist . " Here's what 270000000 looks like:

There's one NPC in this room. His name is 신전관리인. Here are some of the other things he says:

"여신의 꿈을 방해하지 마십시오."
"이번 달 시간의 미아 명단을 볼까..."
"일반 참배객은 받지 않습니다."
"여신은 눈뜨지 않습니다. 태어난 그 순간부터 지금까지, 그리고 앞으로도 영원히 그녀는 잠들어 있습니다. 어쩌면 우리의 삶은 그녀가 꾸는 꿈일지도 모르죠."
There's one NPC in this room. His name is the temple caretaker. Here are some of the other things he says:

"Do not disturb the dreams of a goddess."
"This month we have here a list of Mia ..."
"General chambaegaek are not acceptable."
"Nuntteuji goddess is not born from that moment until now, and she will forever be asleep. Dreaming maybe she is perhaps our lives."

Don't think I see anything about how to get back into the boss map. Possibly talking to "Temple Caretaker" NPC can get you back in?

EngelRod

2008-07-14, 03:59 PM

That looks really interesting, I wonder if you can get back to the boss map somehow.

MonkyMagic

2008-07-14, 08:32 PM

aka Hero's Will. If you read the skill description, it has a master level of 10, and says that it can remove more status effects as you increase its level. But, right now, you can only put one point into it, and it cures Seduce. Perhaps they'll unlock that skill so you could put more points into it and have it able to dispel these new curses as well.

This kinda makes sense because at level 200 you'll have 9 spare points if you've maxed everything else so it would be a way to use up those 9 spare points.

Fiel

2008-07-14, 09:20 PM

Ah bugger all. They just released another patch which greatly changes this battle. Hold on, I'm going over the information.

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-14, 09:29 PM

Hm. I wonder how many DK and Mages skip those Elemental Resistance skills they have. I also wonder if this boss is going to make those who skipped them wish the never had. XD

Hazzy

2008-07-14, 10:09 PM

Ah bugger all. They just released another patch which greatly changes this battle. Hold on, I'm going over the information.

They just don't like us. xP

EngelRod

2008-07-14, 10:10 PM

Ah bugger all. They just released another patch which greatly changes this battle. Hold on, I'm going over the information.

Omg I wonder what it is, maybe a new and big badass form for pink been? Well we just have to wait to see what you found, Thanks Fiel!:cool:

ZartMorder

2008-07-14, 10:28 PM

Omg I wonder what it is, maybe a new and big badass form for pink been? Well we just have to wait to see what you found, Thanks Fiel!:cool:

I highly doubt any of the physical forms will change. It's probably changes to stats/attacks/order of the fight.

Slip

2008-07-14, 10:53 PM

Very impressive... Nicely organized!

That boss would take hours and days to kill...
I wonder which version will take it down first.

Meanwhile, we should make our plans of attack.

ZartMorder

2008-07-14, 10:59 PM

Okay... Am I the only one concerned by the doubling of the knockback for the mobile Pink Bean? :f7:

Cactuar

2008-07-14, 11:35 PM

Oh god... PB is now officially unpinnable. That means everyone is going to have a hell of a time doing anything with it.

Mid Right Hawk Statue (Translated using Google Translator - Korean ~> English)

"Attack2 - Skull with Green Glow" Ariant PQ much?

"132.level.1.info 눈돌아가는 해골" translates into "132.level.1.info Skeletal nundolahganeun". Adding a space between the 1st and 2nd characters, "눈 돌아가는 해골", it comes out as "Skeletal eyes back".

Same skull as the one from Ariant PQ, the one that makes your arrow keys opposite. (up=down,down=up,left=right,right=left)

Holding down the Arrow Key to 1 side and hugging the wall just isnt as easy anymore :f6: Now you gotta see what's on your character...:f7:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Skill 1 - Expelled from Map"

Interesting, this skill has a "banMessage" associated with it. Here's what it says in Korean - statues by the power of other places out of range. It bans you to map 270040000 and that map is called "deep temple: shattered corridor". More information in spoiler:

Here's what that map 270040000 looks like:

From there, you should be able to use a return scroll to get out. There's nobody in this room.

If you do use a return scroll, you'll go to map 270000000 which is called load-time: the temple of time and has a map description of "a living temple to the goddess of time past and present and the future of the time and coexist . " Here's what 270000000 looks like:

There's one NPC in this room. His name is the temple caretaker. Here are some of the other things he says:

"Do not disturb the dreams of a goddess."
"This month we have here a list of Mia ..."
"General chambaegaek are not acceptable."
"Nuntteuji goddess is not born from that moment until now, and she will forever be asleep. Dreaming maybe she is perhaps our lives."

Don't think I see anything about how to get back into the boss map. Possibly talking to "Temple Caretaker" NPC can get you back in?

Uhh... that map is the first one you go to at the beginning of the temple (I think). As in, you're out of the battle.

Magus

2008-07-15, 12:03 AM

I can't help but laugh at this point.
I mean, it's gotten so ridiculous that it's legitimately funny.

Zaotsu

2008-07-15, 12:04 AM

LeonSilvis

2008-07-15, 03:05 AM

dude... pink bean reminds me of Wigglytuff rather then pikachu... :f3: :f6:

MasPan

2008-07-15, 03:50 AM

So uhh....

Does KMST have a damage cap for attacks? I know Pierce breaks it, but does Panic / ME do so as well?

Hmm. Moblie end-game boss with 2.1 Bil HP that does 23k touch damage - ok, pinnable. Adding a 140k KB requirement to that either nullifies Archers completely or means that Shadowers and Smoke screen are absolutely necessary.

A team of 6 warriors can take turns using rush on it.

Hm. I wonder how many DK and Mages skip those Elemental Resistance skills they have. I also wonder if this boss is going to make those who skipped them wish the never had. XD

Most DKs at least get lv 10 of ER. I personally made SURE that I got lv 20, because I know I solo a lot, and almost all end-game monsters have an elemental magic attack (it helps a lot at Papulatus, where I only take 1k damage per hit).

-edit- sorry for double post, didn't see that nobody had posted after me when I quoted Shippo.

-edit2- Also, WOW at the serious mini-bean changes.

Eneko

2008-07-15, 04:10 AM

lol wow, as ssoon as i saw the boss battle map i was like "Whaaaat" in a very awkward voice i never done before. so suprised i been saying what for like 10minutes.

Wani

2008-07-15, 07:13 AM

A team of 6 warriors can take turns using rush on it.

Keep in mind you cannot rush a monster agroed to someone else.

Devil

2008-07-15, 08:21 AM

Only Shadowers can do knockbacks of 100k+ damage, since the first 3 hits of assassinate are counted as 1 attack. So Shadowers' max KB is 300k...

Btw, the longer I think about it, the more I'm sure about it that this boss is a no go area for HP weaky NL's/BM's/MM's... The damage is just too high for them to just survive 1 plain hit... (same goes for 4th job Pirate - Captain's btw...)

MasPan

2008-07-15, 10:13 AM

Keep in mind you cannot rush a monster agroed to someone else.

I thought it was a monster that is being kb'd by someone else - I've had no trouble rushing pap when NLs are attacking but not KB'ing it.

Chompy

2008-07-15, 10:19 AM

140k....
Wow.
I REALLY hope the map becomes bigger...
Or something..
I mean if we could all jump over him..
It might work.
GOD HE IS GOING TO SUCK TO FIGHT!.

Maybe we will be able to FULLY upgrade our HT pendants before we get him:excellent:

Zaotsu

2008-07-15, 10:58 AM

Maybe we will be able to FULLY upgrade our HT pendants before we get him:excellent:

Fully upgrading the HT pendant wont do anything besides increase your damage. o_O

I believe aggroed =! KBing when dealing with rush. I think the best display is sometimes at Anego, how she will break the pin and suddenly rush a player. (I'm not completely sure on this issue though)

ZartMorder

2008-07-15, 12:19 PM

A thought occurred to me when going to bed last night... Has the boss room been checked for warps? If there were two warp points on the far sides of the room, this boss would seem much more feasible. It would be helpful for the statue parts too if you can't walk under them without taking touch damage.

Stereo

2008-07-15, 12:21 PM

Fully upgrading the HT pendant wont do anything besides increase your damage. o_O

I believe aggroed =! KBing when dealing with rush. I think the best display is sometimes at Anego, how she will break the pin and suddenly rush a player. (I'm not completely sure on this issue though)

It's definitely possible for 2 people to rush the same monster, I'm not sure why Anego unpins but I believe it's related to people failing to KB which means she doesn't flinch, and then it messes up the positions of the ranged characters so they can't keep attacking.

Renascentia

2008-07-15, 12:27 PM

Rushing wont be a good solution i suggest you just have 3 partys on the left side of it and 2 on the right. It only has the speed of a snail.

Mickey

2008-07-15, 12:53 PM

Only view on this monster.

KMS are a little late for April Fools... -_-

Fiel

2008-07-15, 01:33 PM

Chompy

2008-07-15, 02:23 PM

Fully upgrading the HT pendant wont do anything besides increase your damage. o_O

I believe aggroed =! KBing when dealing with rush. I think the best display is sometimes at Anego, how she will break the pin and suddenly rush a player. (I'm not completely sure on this issue though)

Increased Acc means more space for Stronger equips
BUT more importantly increased INT means MORE EASY HP WASHING!@@!
If you have the cash... You could Hp wash SOO crazy with some 50+ gear + a full HT pendant. You might be able to HP wash every level.
Which means you could SURVIVE a touch. Yep.

EchoFaith

2008-07-15, 04:17 PM

quite amazing i think. it might be worth getting to 200 just to fight this thing xD

Zaotsu

2008-07-15, 04:38 PM

Increased Acc means more space for Stronger equips
BUT more importantly increased INT means MORE EASY HP WASHING!@@!
If you have the cash... You could Hp wash SOO crazy with some 50+ gear + a full HT pendant. You might be able to HP wash every level.
Which means you could SURVIVE a touch. Yep.

Yes. +3 HT pendant = 57.2 more acc, which means less worrying about accuracy, being able to use Top / Bottom or FS, which means more damage, which is exactly what I said.

I highly doubt a majority of Ranged classes will be willing to attempt to get roughly 15k HP base in order to survive a touch. That is just obscene amounts spend on resetting. Or, people would have to go blood and just pump all their points into it if they wanted to survive a touch hit.

Sinnuendo

2008-07-15, 07:11 PM

Yes. +3 HT pendant = 57.2 more acc, which means less worrying about accuracy, being able to use Top / Bottom or FS, which means more damage, which is exactly what I said.

I highly doubt a majority of Ranged classes will be willing to attempt to get roughly 15k HP base in order to survive a touch. That is just obscene amounts spend on resetting. Or, people would have to go blood and just pump all their points into it if they wanted to survive a touch hit.

Well, they'll just have to avoid touching him. He walks as fast as a snail, so honestly it shouldn't be too hard (unless omfgcrazyskulllolololol). ._.

Or you could have a team of 6 Shadowers Assassinate him every 3 seconds. xP

Edit: Or better yet, have a bunch of Vipers and Shadowers, and spam Smoke Shell. >_>

Cactuar

2008-07-15, 07:15 PM

Only Shadowers can do knockbacks of 100k+ damage, since the first 3 hits of assassinate are counted as 1 attack. So Shadowers' max KB is 300k...

KNOCKBACK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! Seriously, it has to be in a single hit or it won't work.

Wani

2008-07-15, 11:36 PM

I thought it was a monster that is being kb'd by someone else - I've had no trouble rushing pap when NLs are attacking but not KB'ing it.

I think who a monster is agroed to depends on KB or something like that, in which case it was probably agroed to you.

ZartMorder

2008-07-15, 11:59 PM

I think who a monster is agroed to depends on KB or something like that, in which case it was probably agroed to you.

Yeah, I think monsters follow those who KB it most (and more recently). Not sure on exactly how it works, but Pap always follows me rather than the NL that's in my party.

MasPan

2008-07-16, 12:19 AM

Only view on this monster.

KMS are a little late for April Fools... -_-

MICKS! :heart:
Anyways, what the 2 posted above this about kb/aggro may be right, dunno -rush works in a weird way...

ZartMorder

2008-07-16, 12:33 AM

BMW

2008-07-16, 01:12 AM

This definitely holds true to the phrase "Looks can be deceiving." But seriously, 7b+ HP combined, that's ridiculous.

MasPan

2008-07-16, 01:58 AM

True, rush is a bit flukey. The problem with using rush against PB is that if rush fails to push him (as it does at Pap), the rusher will plow into him and take damage. I'm not sure of the damage they'll take, but it may well be fatal.

Or, if he has a weird hit box/can't be rushed when attacking (as was the case with Puff Daddy at times), rush may simply not connect at all. This may change with higher levels of rush, idk. Hitting under PB probably won't be a problem, but accidentally rushing into a statue when trying to kb PB may.

ZartMorder

2008-07-16, 03:30 AM

That won't be a concern. PB can't be touched in his weak form and he can't touch you (except maybe status ailments?). Once you kill off all the statues (the first 5 stages), that is when you must face the strong form of PB. The only other monsters that will hinder you are the mini-bean summons.

Devil

2008-07-16, 06:24 AM

KNOCKBACK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! Seriously, it has to be in a single hit or it won't work.Yes, for Assassinate it -does- work that way (if you don't believe me, check it out yourself). The KB effect is applied AFTER the first 3 hits...

So if a group of Shadowers with onyx apples can deal out 140k/3 = 47.000 damage per separate assassinate hit (uncharged), they can keep the PB knocked back... in theory... :)

Renascentia

2008-07-16, 06:56 AM

EndlessAxis

2008-07-16, 07:52 AM

Sinnuendo

2008-07-16, 09:54 AM

Yes, for Assassinate it -does- work that way (if you don't believe me, check it out yourself). The KB effect is applied AFTER the first 3 hits...

So if a group of Shadowers with onyx apples can deal out 140k/3 = 47.000 damage per separate assassinate hit (uncharged), they can keep the PB knocked back... in theory... :)

Good luck dealing 94k per hit uncharged. Bean's resistance to Physical would halve that to 47k, which would pretty much screw you over.

Instead of pinning him, let's try a few Vipers and some Shadowers with maxed Smoke Shell (of course, you wouldn't use Smoke Shell OR Time Leap until the last phase, and even then, Bean himself will probably take an hour or more to kill).

Also, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to hit Ariel at all if you're not an Archmage if you don't have over 123% Jump (except for NLs, who should be able to stand on the edge of the screen and jumpshot her). Just throwing that out there. o_o

Alloy

2008-07-16, 10:16 AM

ACTUALLY, does ninja storm (that one that pushes stuff), from night lords, KB bosses? If so, it could help quite a lot when maxed... A bit risky, too, though.

Sinnuendo

2008-07-16, 10:45 AM

ACTUALLY, does ninja storm (that one that pushes stuff), from night lords, KB bosses? If so, it could help quite a lot when maxed... A bit risky, too, though.

Or Dragon Breath. o_o

Ahmed

2008-07-16, 11:20 AM

Psycho status = seduce a la HT, correct? If so, god damn. This is gonna be rough.

Shippo the Fox

2008-07-16, 12:12 PM

Lol, you truely believe the pink bean fights will consist out of shadowers as main attackers? You really overrate your own class in every post on this board. Once the boss will actually be fought you'll see that its just the regular set up as on every boss fight and your stubborn theories will be proven wrong again.

You sound much more arrogant than him. Get over yourself. Damn Dark Kinghts. He didn't say they were main attackers, he said they could keep it knocked back in theory.

DrRusty

2008-07-16, 02:27 PM

Lol, you truely believe the pink bean fights will consist out of shadowers as main attackers? You really overrate your own class in every post on this board. Once the boss will actually be fought you'll see that its just the regular set up as on every boss fight and your stubborn theories will be proven wrong again.

if this boss doesn't allow rush or dragon breath to work on him; then keeping him pinned thro sheer damage will be the only way to do it, and the only classes that can dish out 70ks fast enough to keep him pinned are paladins blast, and shadowers assassinate.

Then again, if rush and dragon breath both work, then this fight might be a piece of cake.

Fiel

2008-07-16, 03:02 PM

if this boss doesn't allow rush or dragon breath to work on him; then keeping him pinned thro sheer damage will be the only way to do it, and the only classes that can dish out 70ks fast enough to keep him pinned are paladins blast, and shadowers assassinate.

Then again, if rush and dragon breath both work, then this fight might be a piece of cake.

His KB is 140k. Read the spoiler at the top.

DrRusty

2008-07-16, 03:12 PM

His KB is 140k. Read the spoiler at the top.

oh....

in that case, if dragon pulse and rush don't work, then yeah shadowers will be our only chance to keep him pinned.

Seriously though, if dragon pulse works on pink bean, this fight is gonna be so easy.

Any BMs wanna play some pink bean tennis?

Fiel

2008-07-16, 03:20 PM

One more thing. Isn't it true that DP and Rush just push and don't necessarily knock back? In other words, they just move the monster but don't cause the knockback animation.

Magus

2008-07-16, 03:24 PM

http://i317.photobucket.com/albums/mm398/Southperry/PinkBean/map21kw4.jpg

http://www.vgfrequency.com/wp-content/uploads/final-fantasy-vii-safer-sephiroth.jpg

wannabe much?

oh and he reminds me the most of Dumb Buu more then any other boss

http://www.vgfrequency.com/wp-content/uploads/final-fantasy-vii-safer-sephiroth.jpg

http://www.ffcompendium.com/chara/6kefka-b3.jpg

Wannabe much?

DrRusty

2008-07-16, 05:15 PM

Devil

2008-07-16, 05:21 PM

Hmmm I just thought of something: Can't 3rd job archer's Puppet make him stand in 1 corner? xD

I've never seen a Puppet spam team. Does spamming Puppet even work with multiple puppets / does it effect Pink Bean?

Puppet -does- seem to work on every monster and boss, so I don't see why it wouldn't work on this one... The question is only if archers can survive the full screen magic attacks, since they even have a hard time surviving horntail below lvl 170... And 30 levels of normal levelup is only 600~700 HP extra... :o

Time for a Blood Puppeteer Squad? :D

P.S. to Renascentia: Plz keep this board flamebait free? I was only stating hypothetical attacking possibilities...

Fiel

2008-07-16, 05:33 PM

I think that with the advent of this boss, the only possible future of archers at PB will be Bloodmasters and Bloodsmen. :)

Cysero

2008-07-16, 05:39 PM

Puppet doesn't work with multiple people attacking the monster. I guess it could work if an Archer tried soloing Pink Bean, but that won't happen anytime soon unless they go the blood route maybe.

ahoboandahal

2008-07-16, 06:05 PM

you could be such a jerk as a warrior at pink been.... Wait till the final form has like 100k hp, then get further away from pink been so everyones in front of you, then ... BAM! monster magnet. Solo that 100k and get all his beast drops. Make 100's of bils that way lol. And does pink been have any signature drops? like a pink overall? ex. +20 to all stats? that would be beast.

Stereo

2008-07-16, 06:25 PM

One more thing. Isn't it true that DP and Rush just push and don't necessarily knock back? In other words, they just move the monster but don't cause the knockback animation.

Rush just requires you do contact damage to push a monster back, however it doesn't work while a monster is recovering from a KB which is why it has trouble at bosses (or if you PS+FA then Rush, the FA and Rush are too close together and it can't push anything the FA KB'd)

BrownTigga

2008-07-16, 07:23 PM

Dyxanije

2008-07-16, 07:34 PM

Wow, thats some insane hp o_o. I can't wait to see the videos for this since I don't boss xD.

Sage

2008-07-16, 11:13 PM

Man, the only solace I can find about the last form of Pink Bean is that there aren't any statues to deal with. I can so totally see all of the NLs trying to get away from Pink Bean and then FJing into a statue. xd (Even though it's slow as shit)

Sinnuendo

2008-07-17, 09:38 AM

One more thing. Isn't it true that DP and Rush just push and don't necessarily knock back? In other words, they just move the monster but don't cause the knockback animation.

I believe this is true, I think I've pushed Cornians with DP before without them actually flinching.

Fiel

2008-07-17, 01:26 PM

Kigaz

2008-07-17, 04:09 PM

any idea on how much pink bean does D:?

Zaotsu

2008-07-17, 04:30 PM

PB(W) refers to the other form of PB. In this form, you cannot hit him and he cannot hit you. All he does is sit on the throne the entire match, taunts you (hilarious animations too), and buffs up the enemies. PB(S) refers to the form of PB with 2.1B HP and does nasty attacks and has 23k touch damage. After you defeat Stage 5, PB(W) disappears in a puff of smoke and reappears in a flash of light and begins letting all hell break loose on you as PB(S).

If you mean magic attack... I have no clue, I'd guess much less than 23k though.

KaidaTan

2008-07-17, 04:43 PM

Stereo

2008-07-17, 07:04 PM

If you mean magic attack... I have no clue, I'd guess much less than 23k though.

Around 11k on his normal magic attack, 19k on his "exploding fireballs" attack which may be avoidable.

Rob

2008-07-17, 09:04 PM

even though I'm low leveled... I'd die to see this thing attacking and killing everyone like a unleashed beast.

Did the last KMS patch include Pink Bean? I mean, I know the time temple was released, but can you already fight the boss?

Fiel

2008-07-17, 09:35 PM

Around 11k on his normal magic attack, 19k on his "exploding fireballs" attack which may be avoidable.

It's not avoidable. He does the animation and it attaches to your character immediately. There is no "ball" to avoid. It just explodes on you. If you're thinking about avoiding it, good luck. The hitbox extends 250 pixels above PB and 600 pixels in front of him.

Alloy

2008-07-17, 09:52 PM

It's not avoidable. He does the animation and it attaches to your character immediately. There is no "ball" to avoid. It just explodes on you. If you're thinking about avoiding it, good luck. The hitbox extends 250 pixels above PB and 600 pixels in front of him.

...How are ranged classes supossed to survive in there? D:

Cardboardsnail

2008-07-17, 09:59 PM

...How are ranged classes supossed to survive in there? D:

Godliest HP equips possible + Maximum HP washing + Hyper body? :f6:
(I dunno really.)

Zaotsu

2008-07-17, 10:20 PM

If it's spells only affect what's infront of it like the first post says, then you could have warriors aggro him, run to the corner and let the other classes attack his back. Like...

L Side of Map - Warriors - <- Bean - Ranged

19K HP with HB would be.. very difficult... You'd need nearly 12k base for that. I think that CMS Hermit had like... 11xxx at 180 ish.

Mira

2008-07-18, 03:25 AM

In case anyone is curious, here's the monsterbook data about Pink Bean. Unfortunately, they don't have any drops listed:

레벨 : Lv.180\n형태 : 정령형\n\n정체불명의 남자 키르스턴이 시간의 신전에서 여신의 거울을 통해 불러낸 괴물이다. 키르스턴 역시 의도적으로 핑크빈을 불러내려 했던 것 같지는 않다. 핑크빛을 띈 작고 귀여운 외모를 가지고 있지만, 그 파괴력은 상상 이상이다. 대단히 위험한 몬스터이므로 주의할 것. 짐작할 수 없는 이상한 힘을 가지고 있는데, 그 중 하나는 잊혀진 신을 되살리는 것이다. 이 세계의 몬스터가 아닌 듯하다.

This is really neat!

Level : Lv.180\n
Form : Sprite Form\n\n An unknown male Christen (or Kristen?) Summoned this monster through Time Temple's Goddess's Mirror.
However, it doesn't seem like Kristen intentionally summoned the pink bean.
Although the pink bean was small and cute, its destructive power was unimaginable.
Because he noticed that it was a very dangerous monster.
He has unfathomable strength, and was the one forgotten god that came back to life.
It seems this monster isn't from this world

Thanks Qwertyx7 for translating all of this! <3

Renascentia

2008-07-18, 09:19 AM

My guess is that the high magic attacks have a small range and don't affect those far away (crow/anego style). With a combination of full map attacks that do low magic damage?

Chameleonic

2008-07-18, 10:52 AM

...How are ranged classes supossed to survive in there? D:

Smoke Shell?

I really have to wonder if Nexon takes into account ALL classes when they make their bosses.

ZartMorder

2008-07-18, 12:38 PM

My guess is that the high magic attacks have a small range and don't affect those far away (crow/anego style). With a combination of full map attacks that do low magic damage?

Fiel said the strong attack (19k damage) has a hitbox that extends out 600px from PB. That's 3/4 of the screen. I'm pretty sure no ranged person can be outside that range and still be able to hit PB.

Fiel

2008-07-18, 02:49 PM

Stereo

2008-07-18, 03:06 PM

With 140k KB, it's gonna be a little difficult to get him to stay facing the warriors :x Especially with physical resistance.

Alloy

2008-07-18, 04:19 PM

Like I keep saying, though, PB's weakness is behind him. That 19k attack only hits 250 px behind him. If several warriors could lure him across the map and keep PB's backside to the ranged characters, it's very winnable.

uhm... Flash jump could be useful here then... kinda. I pity the archers, though D:

If they make a "respawn room" it could be a fun boss, though, with ranged guys dying all the time D:

(make it so no exp is lost in there... D:)

Retalion

2008-07-18, 06:23 PM

With 140k KB, it's gonna be a little difficult to get him to stay facing the warriors :x Especially with physical resistance.

How would 140k KB work? Dont we have a 99,999 cap right now? *wonders if this means the dmg cap might be extended or altogether lifted*

zeplinfan911

2008-07-18, 07:48 PM

This thing is pretty rediculous. I certainly hope you get some sort of bean item (like zhelm or necklace), I really dont think people are going to want to sit for a 5 hour+ battle with no significant reward.

DrRusty

2008-07-18, 09:21 PM

How would 140k KB work? Dont we have a 99,999 cap right now? *wonders if this means the dmg cap might be extended or altogether lifted*

I really hoped this would be true. It'd give me a better reason to max out assassinate =D. Anyways, are there any versions at all that don't have the 99,999 damage cap?

Wani

2008-07-18, 10:08 PM

How would 140k KB work? Dont we have a 99,999 cap right now? *wonders if this means the dmg cap might be extended or altogether lifted*

My guess was that the real KB was 70k, however he's strong to physical attacks, which means you'd have to do what would be 140k damage to another monster with the same DEF/level/whatever, in order to KB it.

Shinokun

2008-07-19, 03:49 AM

How would 140k KB work? Dont we have a 99,999 cap right now? *wonders if this means the dmg cap might be extended or altogether lifted*

This picture taken by Mazefind should explain it.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7360/3539922679702224897nk1.png

DrRusty

2008-07-19, 04:55 AM

This picture taken by Mazefind should explain it.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7360/3539922679702224897nk1.png

well If it wasnt crit then I would have a little bit of hope. Not to mention its still 30k short of what we need :f7:. When pink bean does come out, it would be really nice if they'd jus take off that 99,999 limit.

Devil

2008-07-19, 05:32 AM

well If it wasnt crit then I would have a little bit of hope. Not to mention its still 30k short of what we need :f7:. When pink bean does come out, it would be really nice if they'd jus take off that 99,999 limit.Isn't brandish damage for KB counted 2 hits as 1 or are those counted as 2 hits? Maybe an insane powerfull here could do 2x 70k with brandish and knock it back?

Still afaik, Assassinate is the only attack that goes beyond the 140k damage for 1x KB, but still... it won't keep him pinned... unless you have about 20 Shadowers present, which also won't happen, since there are too few...

Also even when they would lift the damage cap (which is coded in maplestory.exe - some private servers have it removed already) there are only a few attacks that could theoretically pass the 140k damage barrier:
- Panic (With max Advanced Combo)
- Assassinate (Stated before)
- Blast (With Thunder Charge)
- Heaven's Hammer (But too slow because of cooldown - Or is this a Holy Attack?)
- Piercing Arrow (But that would require to hit some summons first)
- Sniping (Max level "only" has a 10 second cooldown)
(I don't know if I have missed any, but I didn't think so)

My guess that it's just not possible to keep Strong Pink Bean pinned all the time and only the strong characters will survive him... Archers and Nightlords have just too low HP to fight it. Keep in mind that a fight will take 2~4 hours with all that HP, and Resurrection's cooldown is just too slow to keep the dieing ranged low HP characters alive all the time...

Maybe Nexon just decided that Pink Bean wasn't meant for ranged characters to play a mayor role in, just like they can't survive Tonosoma... Afterall, ranged characters have Horntail already... Maybe Nexon wanted to give Magicians and other less popular classes a bigger role in bossing, since they're left out in Horntail...

Alloy

2008-07-19, 06:14 AM

Isn't brandish damage for KB counted 2 hits as 1 or are those counted as 2 hits? Maybe an insane powerfull here could do 2x 70k with brandish and knock it back?

Still afaik, Assassinate is the only attack that goes beyond the 140k damage for 1x KB, but still... it won't keep him pinned... unless you have about 20 Shadowers present, which also won't happen, since there are too few...

Also even when they would lift the damage cap (which is coded in maplestory.exe - some private servers have it removed already) there are only a few attacks that could theoretically pass the 140k damage barrier:
- Panic (With max Advanced Combo)
- Assassinate (Stated before)
- Blast (With Thunder Charge)
- Heaven's Hammer (But too slow because of cooldown - Or is this a Holy Attack?)
- Piercing Arrow (But that would require to hit some summons first)
- Sniping (Max level "only" has a 10 second cooldown)
(I don't know if I have missed any, but I didn't think so)

My guess that it's just not possible to keep Strong Pink Bean pinned all the time and only the strong characters will survive him... Archers and Nightlords have just too low HP to fight it. Keep in mind that a fight will take 2~4 hours with all that HP, and Resurrection's cooldown is just too slow to keep the dieing ranged low HP characters alive all the time...

Maybe Nexon just decided that Pink Bean wasn't meant for ranged characters to play a mayor role in, just like they can't survive Tonosoma... Afterall, ranged characters have Horntail already... Maybe Nexon wanted to give Magicians and other less popular classes a bigger role in bossing, since they're left out in Horntail...

KB only counts as each separate number. And about the mage role, yeah, I find that nice... But mages can still get the horntail pendant if they want, can't they?

Ranged can't even have a chance, if they, you know, DIE EPICLY. If there's a waiting room, and you can come back from the dead, np.

Something like a timer in the death room could be interesting... that way, resurect would be still useful.

Renascentia

2008-07-19, 09:09 AM

woah removal of the damage cap is really nice.

Kalovale

2008-07-19, 11:29 AM

Dragon Pulse won't work. It doesn't work on any other boss, so prolly not this one either. Rush, however, has worked on both forms of Pap. Not only that, but Rush even pushes a monster if you miss (low acc) it. Rush has, in the past, worked for every monster that can move so I don't see why it wouldn't work for Pink Bean.

However, if you're a warrior and you've tried Rushing one of the anniversary cakes away from other people, you know that it doesn't work too well when other people are KBing it. So if you wanted PB in the corner you'd have to have either everyone stop attacking while a few warriors Rush it, or just have all the warriors with enough HP continually try to rush it while everyone's attacking. If they fail, just walk to the other side and try again.

Nicely pointed out. Yes, Rush:
- has both Knockback animation (makes the monster flinch and cry) and pushback effect, it also makes the Rusher 'invincible' for a fixed amount of time. Rush works just as fine whether the hit contacts or not, in other words, with damage dealt or a miss.
- have difficulties when applied on a constantly Kb-ed monster, however, with the Pink Bean's 140k damage required limit for KB, I strongly disbelieve that it can be mass-Kb'ed, thus rendering warriors, particularly Drks?, another important role in boss fights: Rush mule. (lol, first hb mule then Seduce mule and now Rush mule?)
- have a 'safe' distance between you and the monster, so in case your Rush fails, if you aim your distance well, you'll end up standing somewhat a step or two away from the boss.Taking into consideration its snail's speed, Rush is considerably safe to practice.

I wanna send my sincerest gratitude to Fiel and everyone contributing to these updates, the music is simply.. indescribable x_x And the boss itself is as much intriguing. ^^

Way to go, Nexon Korea. <3

Shinokun

2008-07-19, 01:00 PM

well If it wasnt crit then I would have a little bit of hope. Not to mention its still 30k short of what we need :f7:. When pink bean does come out, it would be really nice if they'd jus take off that 99,999 limit.

What does using Crit have to do with false hopes? Want more proof that the cap is removed?

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7849/121648517002pq7.jpg

Retalion

2008-07-19, 02:24 PM

Well, to Rusty's inquiries, in GMS, Pierce had its damage cap raised to 150k (and people can still dc with apples). None of the dmg shown went over 150k so could it just be the dmg cap being raised slightly and not removed at all?

*waits for screenshot of someone doing over 150k* xD

Wani

2008-07-19, 07:27 PM

That's not the DCing cap being removed, that's the regular ol' damage cap gone. Niiiice :O

ItzTaylor

2008-07-19, 08:06 PM

I can't wait to see videos of this being fought. Wonder what special techniques people will use to beat this boss. Seems like a long battle with all that HP.

People said it looks like Pikachu... I don't see it. Looks more like a Wigglytuff on crack.

Nice Info Paul :D

AnujanSaiva

2008-07-19, 09:45 PM

IsaacGS

2008-07-19, 11:15 PM

hi this might be a nub question. but is this boss released yet. as in kms tepsia? or even in kms? or its just things people found in ftp. too lazy to check through all the posts lol. btw any videos out yet if it is released. thx in advance
It just came out in official KMS this week. Looking at how hard the prerequisite quests are, I doubt they've had a chance to fight it seriously yet.

Shinokun

2008-07-20, 12:20 AM

Not a serious fight, but it gives you a sense of scale of what you're going up against.
No touch damage or autoaggro?

http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movieID=10053350120080720055744&skinNum=1

Cactuar

2008-07-20, 05:29 AM

Almo

2008-07-20, 05:40 AM

Since when has Maple been all about serious graphics and scary stuff? When you first started, how scary was the Lupin at L forest? It did 135 damage on your ass and would kill you yet it was a fucking monkey throwing bananas.

Alishar? I know when I was 35 and did my first LPQ'd I was pretty much holy shit'd by the fact it had huge visible nipples yet still kicked my ass; mainly cause I had no all-cures, but you get the idea.

Papulatus is a really serious boss too, btw. Oh, so is a giant goldfish that shoots lazer beams from it's mouth.

Point is, Pinky right there is cool. I love it especially because it actually has multiple phases instead of just starting all out and killing off stuff one by one like horntail, it's like pulling out wings of a fly. Starts off fun, but then it gets too easy. ):

xdf, I was seriously expecting like something from Final Fantasy <_<. Maybe some weird superior being that's in the shape of a human but is really some type of weird creature, whatever they make up for it.
That moves around, jumps up, etc.
Pink Bean isn't what I expected, but still looks cool xd, a moving big boss, like that takes 30 people to kill instead of 1-6 like pap.
It's a good change imo.

Devil

2008-07-20, 05:45 AM

Not a serious fight, but it gives you a sense of scale of what you're going up against.
No touch damage or autoaggro?

http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movieID=10053350120080720055744&skinNum=1Nice find dude! :)

Made a screenshot of max damage:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6814/timetempleboss1dmgmw3.jpg

It seems to do 3 different attacks for now:
- A lot of 1/1 attacks (those are the 29971 dmg ones)
- High damage full screen attack (max dmg on vid 7157)
- Low damage full screen attack (max dmg +/- 4000)

And indeed it doesn't seem to have touch damage! :)

Full-Screen damage projection of other bosses:

FL Statue:
-Magic Attack: 770 > 7.157 max damage on vid
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 900 (like Fiel stated) > 7.157 damage on vid

L Statue:
Magic Attack: 900 > 8.365 Projected max damage
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1000 > 7.952 Projected max damage

Ariel Statue:
Magic Attack: 1300 > 12.083 Projected max damage
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1650 > 13.121 Projected max damage

Pink Bean Strong:
Magic Attack: 1200 > 11.154 Projected max damage
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1500 > 11.928 Projected max damage

R Statue:
Magic Attack: 950 > 8.830 Projected max damage
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1600 (?) > 12.724 Projected max damage

FR Statue:
Magic Attack: 750 > 6.971 Projected max damage
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1000 > 7.952 Projected max damage

I know you can't really do this because every monster seems to have another multiplier on damage, but still it's better then nothing... ;)

Zaotsu

2008-07-20, 09:23 AM

Hmm, that platform seems odd. I guess a way for one to escape if PB is closing in on you? (Then again, magic is more what you need to worry about) It could help with just getting to the other side in general as well.

The no touch damage from the statues is great though, that means you cant be super KB'd and smack into the other ones in the later stages.

Renascentia

2008-07-20, 03:30 PM

did anyone else notice the 1 hour timer on top?

Zaotsu

2008-07-20, 03:44 PM

I'd assume the one hour time limit is on a per stage basis, and it would either get added to or reset after one stage is done.

Cactuar

2008-07-20, 04:14 PM

Nice find dude! :)

Made a screenshot of max damage:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6814/timetempleboss1dmgmw3.jpg

Sorry, but, you're wrong. This statue has touch damage:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8976/touchdamagela0.jpg

Unless you care to explain how he took damage when nobody else did?

Wani

2008-07-20, 06:07 PM

The statues have touch damage of course, but remember if you're blinking when you pass through them, you don't take the damage. Hence why I can berserk on Zakum, get knocked into the body and not die with only 4-5k HP.

Retalion

2008-07-20, 08:28 PM

Cactuar

2008-07-20, 08:48 PM

Stereo

2008-07-20, 08:52 PM

Nice find dude! :)

Made a screenshot of max damage:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6814/timetempleboss1dmgmw3.jpg

It seems to do 3 different attacks for now:
- A lot of 1/1 attacks (those are the 29971 dmg ones)
- High damage full screen attack (max dmg on vid 7157)
- Low damage full screen attack (max dmg +/- 4000)

And indeed it doesn't seem to have touch damage! :)

Full-Screen damage projection of other bosses:

FL Statue:
-Magic Attack: 770 > 7.157 max damage on vid, 4950 (7050)
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 900 (like Fiel stated) > 7.157 damage on vid 6800

L Statue:
Magic Attack: 900 > 6750 (9200)
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1000 > 8300

Ariel Statue:
Magic Attack: 1300 > 14100 (17500)
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1650 > 22500

Pink Bean Strong:
Magic Attack: 1200 > 12000
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1500 > 18800

R Statue:
Magic Attack: 950 > 7500 (10100)
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1600 (?) > 21500

FR Statue:
Magic Attack: 750 > 4800 (6800)
-OR-
-Physical Attack: 1000 > 8400

I know you can't really do this because every monster seems to have another multiplier on damage, but still it's better then nothing... ;)

Given the 770 on the displayed statue is hitting near 7200 magic damage, the boss is getting some sort of matk up buff. It seems to be buffed to around 920~930, which would be +150-160 magic up.

If a similar buff is cast on the other statues, then the Ariel Statue's 1300 is gonna be buffed to 1450, making it do approximately 17500 magic damage.

Monster damage has a quadratic form, you can't just scale up with attack especially if they're getting buffed by PB(W) during the first parts of the battle.

Assuming that one hit of ~16000 was actually a physical contact, then the 900 base of that statue would imply that PB(W) has a +500 physical attack buff, which would be pretty brutal (Ariel can 1hko any character on touch, doing nearly 40k bump)

I've added my approximations for unbuffed bold and buffed (brackets) for the damage it'll do. It seems more likely that the magic buff is used on and off, and that's why it does ~4500-5000 and then ~6500-7100. Maybe dispel/power crash would be useful here?

Wani

2008-07-20, 09:01 PM

@ 2 minutes, is that the jump down skill?

For most of the video, the priest/bishop in green is standing basically ON the statue for most of the fight, meaning if the statue has touch damage, its at the higher parts.

Could it be someone lagging and having their 1/1 delayed? (Im teaching atm, dont have time to rewatch)

From what I saw, it looks like down the bottom of the statues, there is an area about the height of a mapler, where it's safe to stand. Which is nice. Also good to see that there are raised platforms where warriors can stand and attack without having to jump. I hate having to jump attack at pap. >_< Then my party yells at me for forgetting HB when I don't get dispelled because I'm up top where I can attack constantly. :(

Shinokun

2008-07-21, 02:28 AM

Here's another lolserious run. This one actually shows a bit of PB.

http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movieID=10011264620080720213408&skinNum=1

Fiel

2008-07-21, 03:08 AM

Here's another lolserious run. This one actually shows a bit of PB.

http://dory.mncast.com/mncHMovie.swf?movieID=10011264620080720213408&skinNum=1

Massive fail. You can see clearly that there are two mobs stacked one on the other. >_>