Bug in Transformation / Drain

[Devil]

Hmmm I think I found a bug...

Drain normally is about 133 attacks/minute (yes, REALLY fast)

However, when you use Drain when you're Transformed, it's speed crashes to a crappy 50 attacks/minute...

I have no idea how this is possible, but I'm pretty sure this is not the way it should be, right?

Can anyone test this, if they have it too? And is this bug also happening in other Maple versions with Pirates? :o

[Serene]

Yea i also noticed the speed drop while transformed its a glitch i guess o-o

[WeeItzSandra]

Yeah happens to me too, good thing I never use transform :f3:

[Loose]

Same here, which is another reason I don't like Transformation.

Blast also feels a bit slow, but not as much as Drain. It might be just me, though.

[Werguild]

Sounds like booster dosen't work with transform-

It's the Shinkita glitch ALL OVER AGAIN! D:

[Corn]

More incentive not to max Transform first in 3rd job.

Anyone want to post it in this (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6826) thread?

[Sivrat]

More incentive not to max Transform first in 3rd job.

Anyone want to post it in this (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6826) thread?

You need max transform to get super transform. Otherwise i guarantee that everyone would leave transform at 11 and max everything else. COnsidering many dont even use 3rd job transfrom past getting 4th job transform.

[Takebacker]

You need max transform to get super transform. Otherwise i guarantee that everyone would leave transform at 11 and max everything else. COnsidering many dont even use 3rd job transfrom past getting 4th job transform.

I would use it for traveling with max haste, so yeah.

[Link]

To answer your second part : Yes, it does work exactly like that in the other versions. Just don't use Drain while Transformed. O_o

[DrRusty]

To answer your second part : Yes, it does work exactly like that in the other versions. Just don't use Drain while Transformed. O_o

Or just don't use transform at all and just use energy attacks. I wonder how much sp in demo you would need to outdmg max drain?

[Takebacker]

I was wondering if you can use energy attacks in transformed state... o.o

I don't think it's that booster doesn't work, by the way, because as far as i know wind booster and booster affects transformation attacks. Justin can easily prove me wrong of course.

[Dusk]

On that note, how does energy work when transformed? Do you get the stat bonuses constantly, or are you still forced to hit monsters to charge up the bar and get the stat bonuses and usage of Energy skills?

[Russt]

I'm surprised no one else thinks that it's not a glitch. Not everything that doesn't make obvious sense is an error. Ever notice that every Transform-related attack has a long animation?

[Corn]

You need max transform to get super transform. Otherwise i guarantee that everyone would leave transform at 11 and max everything else. COnsidering many dont even use 3rd job transfrom past getting 4th job transform.

I meant, sorry, max it first.

[Devil]

Well the strange thing about using Drain in Transform mode, is that it doesn't animate the Transform "puppet" itself. So it doesn't delay because of animation lag...

Maybe it's some sort of max attacks/minute they build in with the transform so it can go above 60 att/min? Maybe it caused some problems during development and they forgot to fix Drain afterwards?

Or maybe they thought that being able to use (Super) Transform + Drain would give too much power (Because Drain normally heals EXTREMELY fast)?

However, I still think it's a bit odd... :)

[Takebacker]

Log a ticket and see their response.

[Russt]

Lemme guess: "Blah blah blah This is the intended effect."

[TLeviathan]

On that note, how does energy work when transformed? Do you get the stat bonuses constantly, or are you still forced to hit monsters to charge up the bar and get the stat bonuses and usage of Energy skills?

Energy charge works the same regardless of transformation. You still have to charge it and still only get bonuses when full.

[Crovis]

Just wondering, how useful would Drain be for bossing? I think its stronger than Demolition no? So would Vipers DPM be better than their 7m per min (or so)

[Devil]

Just wondering, how useful would Drain be for bossing? I think its stronger than Demolition no? So would Vipers DPM be better than their 7m per min (or so)No, lol it's not stronger then Demolition... :+)

Drain almost equals Barrage/Double Upper Combo (it's 10% weaker), however, it has a 200% range, it heals you at an insane rate, and you dont use any mp while spamming it. That's why it's such a kick-ass skill :)

[KingDragonXT]

No, lol it's not stronger then Demolition... :+)

Drain almost equals Barrage/Double Upper Combo (it's 10% weaker), however, it has a 200% range, it heals you at an insane rate, and you dont use any mp while spamming it. That's why it's such a kick-ass skill :)
So in 3rd/4th job Brawlers become a spammer class o.O