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Cactuar
2008-07-10, 05:47 AM
I'm looking at this and I just don't get it. No matter how many times I go over the numbers, it doesn't make any sense. Energy charge doesn't really add any damage. The +200% damage doesn't do anything (that I can see, anyway). It must be a glitch or something. Has anyone else noticed this in the videos (assuming you watched them)? Compare an EC'd Viper to a non-EC'd one. You'll barely notice a difference.

JoeTang
2008-07-10, 06:03 AM
Can you post these videos for comparison then...?

Cactuar
2008-07-10, 06:11 AM
Can you post these videos for comparison then...?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EluYMd83hnE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1LgKXPBIw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0ghxVmj4o&feature=related

When the little orb appears around them, that's energy charge.

Oversoulx2
2008-07-10, 09:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EluYM...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1Lg...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0gh...eature=related

When the little orb appears around them, that's energy charge.

What's a malformed video ID? :f6:

Hazzy
2008-07-10, 09:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EluYM...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1Lg...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0gh...eature=related

When the little orb appears around them, that's energy charge.

Videos were too long or something, and the site crunched them down. D:

JoeTang
2008-07-10, 01:19 PM
Post the video links inside [url] tags.

Loose
2008-07-10, 01:27 PM
I'm guessing that +200% Damage is the "Body Attack" effect. The thing that seems like Power Guard or something.

Cactuar
2008-07-10, 03:18 PM
I'm guessing that +200% Damage is the "Body Attack" effect. The thing that seems like Power Guard or something.

That makes sense... But it's slightly depressing :( That's the only logical thing that it can be, though.

JoeTang
2008-07-10, 04:14 PM
From what I see, it does increase damage, but not considerably, and the 200% probably isn't a part of that factor.
Fist's range changes from what appears to be 5.2k~9.1k to 6.5k~11k and Dragon Strike's from 20k~31k to 23k~36k. Most likely, this is due to the other damage buff inherent in Energy Charge.

Cyadd
2008-07-16, 04:03 PM
I saw two different super transform avatars. Answer?

Cactuar
2008-07-16, 04:07 PM
I saw two different super transform avatars. Answer?

One's male, one's female.

EndlessAxis
2008-07-17, 08:24 PM
unfortunatly yes it seams energy charges fabled 200% damage dosn't exist O_O....sad but true..ohh thats a good song too

Beaner
2008-07-17, 08:37 PM
it doesnt imcrease your dmg 200% it bounces back dmg taken by 200%, so a monster does 1k touch, it takes 2k back.

get it?

aznegglover
2008-07-17, 08:42 PM
it doesnt imcrease your dmg 200% it bounces back dmg taken by 200%, so a monster does 1k touch, it takes 2k back.

get it?
That is one pimpin' Power Guard o,o

Beaner
2008-07-17, 09:08 PM
except you dont get dmg reduced. and i think it only works when fully charged.

jrvillarreal
2008-07-21, 01:34 PM
I saw two different super transform avatars. Answer?

Girls have a different super-form than boys. Long-hair form is girls

Colyo
2008-07-21, 04:13 PM
The skill description has the 200% which is the body attack, and theres a separate +20 attack bonus in there too if you check.

edit: i hope the 20 atk stacks with pots/buffz/rage...

xDae
2008-07-21, 04:20 PM
The skill description has the 200% which is the body attack, and theres a separate +20 attack bonus in there too if you check.

edit: i hope the 20 atk stacks with pots/buffz/rage...

It does stack.....from what Im told. It also cannot be dispelled

EDIT:
it doesnt imcrease your dmg 200% it bounces back dmg taken by 200%, so a monster does 1k touch, it takes 2k back.

get it?

If you look at 3:05...it does seem to be like Power Guard...

Viper at Pianus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay1LgKXPBIw&feature=related)

Colyo
2008-07-21, 05:09 PM
I just wonder, if it reduces damage you take before reflecting it like power guard... Im guessing no but I may be wrong.