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maricelle
2008-07-09, 08:58 AM
Guys, how big is the chance of Nexon improving APQ in the way that dcers won't screw up the whole PQ? Sure enough, you will be stuck at stage 2 already if you don't have 6 people, but past stage 3 you can continue without 6 people. If only there isn't this "You need 6 people to continue" notice.
Suggestions? Opinions?

Wiire
2008-07-09, 09:06 AM
Not sure if it's a glitch but now you need even after the boss the whole party so I think it's not going to get better. ;x
I'm guessing Nexon is trying to make the PQ harder so there'll be less apples which would higher their price.
But meh, the apples fucked up GMS ages ago already.

dizzy
2008-07-09, 09:52 AM
The only thing I really want changed is the 6-people requirement after boss stage. There's usually a bishop in my APQ parties, so we usually have res if someone dies, but taking low-leveled APQ mules always makes me nervous now.

It's annoying when people d/c, but it happens rarely enough that it's not a huge deal.

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 10:17 AM
I'm just curious, but do you have to be with your spouse to PQ, or just be married?

Luscent
2008-07-09, 10:18 AM
I'm just curious, but do you have to be with your spouse to PQ, or just be married?

Just be married and you can enter aPQ.

EchoFaith
2008-07-09, 10:19 AM
EDIT: lol, luscent beat me to it

it would be nice if you could finish apq with one less member or so, but i guess that nexon didn't intend for apq to be that way.

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 10:19 AM
Ah. Ok, I was thinking of making a Marriage mule at a later date to aPQ for money, but not if I had to have him in the PQ. xP

Holypie
2008-07-09, 10:43 AM
but can an unmarried person enter if a married person leads?

Conciente
2008-07-09, 10:51 AM
but can an unmarried person enter if a married person leads?
No, you have to be married.

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 12:14 PM
No, you have to be married.

Nexon makes sure we suffer. :f4:

Conciente
2008-07-09, 12:23 PM
Nexon makes sure we suffer. :f4:
Nobody said you had to marry a girl...

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 12:28 PM
Nobody said you had to marry a girl...

When did they permit homosexual marriage? :f6:

Conciente
2008-07-09, 12:32 PM
We could get away with lies.

"Hey man, make a mule so we can get married! I don't want to marry a sensitive and PMS'ing girl!"

:)

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 12:32 PM
Mules are more fun. :P

HiiEN
2008-07-09, 01:36 PM
lol what the hell are you guys talking about? APQ's been out for over a year already and you're still asking if you have to be married to enter? I think you all know better than this.

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 01:38 PM
I was asking if you need to party with your spouse. D:
Really? It's only been a year?

Holypie
2008-07-09, 01:39 PM
i never tried... so every member has to be married? that blows for us w/o acces to nx

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 01:43 PM
i never tried... so every member has to be married? that blows for us w/o acces to nx

20k isn't too hard to get via Trade. :f6:

Findings
2008-07-09, 01:44 PM
Everything about this game blows for those that don't use Nexon cash.

Wani
2008-07-09, 08:14 PM
The only thing I really want changed is the 6-people requirement after boss stage. There's usually a bishop in my APQ parties, so we usually have res if someone dies, but taking low-leveled APQ mules always makes me nervous now.

It's annoying when people d/c, but it happens rarely enough that it's not a huge deal.

Doesn't matter if people die, just ask them not to respawn. If they're still sitting dead in the boss map, you can still enter the bonus stage.

dizzy
2008-07-09, 08:17 PM
Doesn't matter if people die, just ask them not to respawn. If they're still sitting dead in the boss map, you can still enter the bonus stage.

oh? i didn't know that it worked like that. that still wouldn't work if it was 3/3 though, because they'd have to click amos to enter the couples stage, correct? unless you can go in without having them there too, but i don't think you can.

Darklai
2008-07-09, 09:02 PM
Geez, APQ gets worse with every coming patch... Sounds like more of a hassle than a joy run. Then you always have that stupid person that dies at rog because they forgot to cast MG or forgot to heal. ~sigh

Wani
2008-07-09, 09:03 PM
oh? i didn't know that it worked like that. that still wouldn't work if it was 3/3 though, because they'd have to click amos to enter the couples stage, correct? unless you can go in without having them there too, but i don't think you can.
I don't know if it's changed, but I believe yes, you can go leave the couple's stage if you don't have everyone and go into bonus.

Stereo
2008-07-09, 09:25 PM
oh? i didn't know that it worked like that. that still wouldn't work if it was 3/3 though, because they'd have to click amos to enter the couples stage, correct? unless you can go in without having them there too, but i don't think you can.

You can leave them behind, once you're at the couples stage the leader just has to click Amos and he takes everyone in that map to bonus.



Pretty sure the only reason APQ prizes even have value is because only married people can do it.

IsaacGS
2008-07-09, 09:30 PM
You can leave them behind, once you're at the couples stage the leader just has to click Amos and he takes everyone in that map to bonus.



Pretty sure the only reason APQ prizes even have value is because only married people can do it.
I bet it has more to do with the 6 hour wait between tickets. I know if that didn't exist many married people would do nothing but APQ all day.

Hazzy
2008-07-09, 10:30 PM
I bet it has more to do with the 6 hour wait between tickets. I know if that didn't exist many married people would do nothing but APQ all day.

Six hours between goes? ._.
What if you fail one? :f4:

Wani
2008-07-10, 12:34 AM
You whinge about wasting 6 hours. :P

HiiEN
2008-07-10, 11:25 AM
Which is why you save one ticket at one point, wait six hours, go in, then if you fail you can get a 2nd one!

Hazzy
2008-07-10, 11:30 AM
Which is why you save one ticket at one point, wait six hours, go in, then if you fail you can get a 2nd one!

Oh, you can have multiple tickets? :f6:

Flirtini
2008-07-10, 11:36 AM
I don't know if it's changed, but I believe yes, you can go leave the couple's stage if you don't have everyone and go into bonus.

unfortunately that is not true lol

i've had it happen to me twice =(

we already killed boss and afterwards, 5 of us go into the couples vault "pre bonus" room.. but one dc RIGHT THEN.

well... we can't get into bonus, even tho 5 of us are in the couples vault waitin to enter bonus room =( amos says "you need all 6 people in party to be here" LOL! that ho... i hate amos =( :redface:

Kevin
2008-07-10, 12:41 PM
unfortunately that is not true lol

i've had it happen to me twice =(

we already killed boss and afterwards, 5 of us go into the couples vault "pre bonus" room.. but one dc RIGHT THEN.

well... we can't get into bonus, even tho 5 of us are in the couples vault waitin to enter bonus room =( amos says "you need all 6 people in party to be here" LOL! that ho... i hate amos =( :redface:
Adding to this: Even worse, if you do a couples PQ and do the bonus stage, if one DCs during the couples stage, you can't go to the normal bonus. You're only safe when you have 6 people in bonus now really.

IsaacGS
2008-07-10, 03:52 PM
Oh, you can have multiple tickets? :f6:
You can only have one ticket at a time. However, the 6 hour counter starts from the second you get your ticket. So, If I get on at 1 PM, get a ticket, and log off, I can get back on at 7 PM, go APQ, then come out and since 6 hours have passed since I picked up my ticket, grab another ticket and go a second time. This is good to do before you go to sleep at night so you can PQ twice at your next login.

Keone
2008-07-10, 05:30 PM
I'm sure APQ was designed that way for some sort of balance. I mean, imagine if Nexon changed it now- the economy would take a little tilt and change because of the increased apples in the system.

Additionally, there are way many APQ mules nowadays >__>

Another thing about the 6th stage. The other day, we killed Geist and it dropped the fang on pretty much the only platform that it could be on that wasn't accessible if you weren't a Hermit/Night Lord with Flash Jump. We sat there and watched the fang disappear, lol.

Screw Hermits.

Viper
2008-07-10, 06:24 PM
Wait, in what patch did they change it that there has to be six people during/after boss, honestly i think that's pretty stupid considering a bunch of people d/c during boss. ( haven't played since mid may 08)

Hazzy
2008-07-10, 07:25 PM
You can only have one ticket at a time. However, the 6 hour counter starts from the second you get your ticket. So, If I get on at 1 PM, get a ticket, and log off, I can get back on at 7 PM, go APQ, then come out and since 6 hours have passed since I picked up my ticket, grab another ticket and go a second time. This is good to do before you go to sleep at night so you can PQ twice at your next login.

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks Issac. :D


I'm sure APQ was designed that way for some sort of balance. I mean, imagine if Nexon changed it now- the economy would take a little tilt and change because of the increased apples in the system.

Additionally, there are way many APQ mules nowadays >__>

Another thing about the 6th stage. The other day, we killed Geist and it dropped the fang on pretty much the only platform that it could be on that wasn't accessible if you weren't a Hermit/Night Lord with Flash Jump. We sat there and watched the fang disappear, lol.

Screw Hermits.

I still think Flash Jump should be a Beginner skill. D:

Mopsy
2008-07-11, 11:28 AM
I still think Flash Jump should be a Beginner skill. D:

What!? Madness! D:<

I don't know if I want apples to stop inflating, or if I want them to keep raising, because I see benefits both ways. o--o

Luscent
2008-07-11, 03:14 PM
I still think Flash Jump should be a Beginner skill. D:

That'd be epic. I would totally make Islanders just to Flash Jump around the snails.

Hazzy
2008-07-11, 03:16 PM
That'd be epic. I would totally make Islanders just to Flash Jump around the snails.

I meant a beginner skill like Mount. Do a quest and anyone can get it.

Cardboardsnail
2008-07-11, 04:59 PM
I meant a beginner skill like Mount. Do a quest and anyone can get it.

Well that wouldn't be fair to hermits then

They'd have to make a new skill to replace flash jump in the hermit skill book

A nerfed version might work though. (Maybe 1 jump every 10 seconds?)

Hazzy
2008-07-11, 06:06 PM
Well that wouldn't be fair to hermits then

They'd have to make a new skill to replace flash jump in the hermit skill book

A nerfed version might work though. (Maybe 1 jump every 10 seconds?)

Yea, because Hermits would be totally ruined without Flash Jump. :f3:
Hermits are overpowered. Giving everyone else Flash Jump wouldn't do any harm. <3

Germ
2008-07-11, 06:55 PM
Rofl. My WK with flash jump. Ridiculous.

On a side note - I'd be one happy person if apples made another hop in price. I've been investing in those suckers.

Holypie
2008-07-11, 07:54 PM
i say give a FJ equivalent like half distance

finite
2008-07-11, 08:01 PM
ah, i haven't APQ'ed in ages on my CB but i've heard about what happened. it's really awkward now since i like to take my little 4x cleric mule who's married to APQ, but i'm prone to dying, so :<

Cardboardsnail
2008-07-11, 08:06 PM
Yea, because Hermits would be totally ruined without Flash Jump. :f3:
Hermits are overpowered. Giving everyone else Flash Jump wouldn't do any harm. <3

What about all the SP they put into flash jump? Where do they go?

Tir
2008-07-11, 09:11 PM
I meant a beginner skill like Mount. Do a quest and anyone can get it.

There is sort of a skill like that. The one that lets you jump down from platforms... It's sorta like flashjump, except a bit slower, and it only goes down, and there are some other restrictions on it... but it let's you move faster... (downwards, at least, depending on the map)


Another thing about the 6th stage. The other day, we killed Geist and it dropped the fang on pretty much the only platform that it could be on that wasn't accessible if you weren't a Hermit/Night Lord with Flash Jump. We sat there and watched the fang disappear, lol.

Screw Hermits.

Are you talking about the very top left platform, where Amos is? If so, then I saw a bowmaster go to the platform once...

Hazzy
2008-07-11, 09:12 PM
What about all the SP they put into flash jump? Where do they go?

Shadow Meso? xP

Kivuli
2008-07-11, 09:15 PM
Not sure if it's a glitch but now you need even after the boss the whole party so I think it's not going to get better. ;x
I'm guessing Nexon is trying to make the PQ harder so there'll be less apples which would higher their price.
But meh, the apples fucked up GMS ages ago already.


Agreed. Apples made Maple unbalanced. :/

[+]Panasonic[-]
2008-07-12, 01:43 AM
meh I thought when 1.8m was high.

xLishaBaby
2008-07-12, 05:56 AM
but if it doesnt need 6people to finish the PQ
mean leaders could just kick someone out. o___o

Delicae
2008-07-12, 07:27 PM
Just to add in another thing about APQ :x (because I'm too chicken to make my own thread)

The other day a few friends and I were APQing and we completed the 1st stage. Everyone went into the 2nd stage fine except the last person. So, for some reason he couldn't click anything not even his menus, skills, etc. Is this a glitch? This is the second time it's happened with my APQ parties :f4:


-Thanks

pootato
2008-07-12, 07:28 PM
I like the whole "YOU NEED 6 PEOPLE" rule in apq.
Surely its annoying when people dc.. but I dont know.. it makes everyone more dependant of each other ^^.. it's kind of nice.

Normally people would be left out of parties because of thier job/class etc.. everyones after the bishops and the dk's etc. .. but in apq.. we just party whoever is in the channel lol.
It's nice that theres one pq where everyone is needed (in a sense)