Private Servers Made Nexon get off their ass?

[PieM4ster]

I saw this point made on the website that i shall no longer name, but it seems like our latest content explosion came quite soon after Odin MS releasing their source. And with how rushed the latest stuff has seemed, (all i hear about from my friend is how he can barely play due to all the glitches) AND the fact that they had to put out a bug fix patch to fix the rushedness, it seems plausible that Private Servers made Nexon release content to get their players back (which I am proof of, is working.)

So, do you all think that Maple was positively affected by Private servers?

[Ryun]

Makes sense because they targeted Odin first which got rid of a high concentration of developers, and you don't hear about too many other targets.

Only a matter of time before someone makes a forum to mass together developers again, though. People are disorganized at the moment since Odin's downfall was so recent, but sooner or later someone will make a forum and gather all his friends who helped develop on Odin, and they'll tell their friends, etc.

EDIT: Meant to post this but forgot.

I think the reason Nexon targeted Odin ASAP was because since all developers massed together there, they were the ones putting out patch after patch and update after update for ALL private server creators to put in ALL private servers. Now that Odin's taken out, the public releases are gone, and thus the majority of private servers cannot keep up with Nexon's new content. They're putting themselves back ahead of the pack.

[Hazzy]

From what I've seen, they're not about to give up. Maybe gMS will become less than the laughing stock of Nexon. :D

[Mira]

Pservers took a lot of the GMS population, thus making nexon lose $$, so they had to get the players back somehow. The way they did this was to sue and release more content. The players who don't play Pservers were most likely happy about this, but the people who played Pservers were probably disappointed and sad they can't enjoy the latest GMS content on their Pserver, and went back to GMS to experence it. They either got bored of GMs and went back to a Pserver, Quit maple all together, or stayed in GMS. ^^

[PieM4ster]

Pservers took a lot of the GMS population, thus making nexon lose $$, so they had to get the players back somehow. The way they did this was to sue and release more content. The players who don't play Pservers were most likely happy about this, but the people who played Pservers were probably disappointed and sad they can't enjoy the latest GMS content on their Pserver, and went back to GMS to experence it. They either got bored of GMs and went back to a Pserver, Quit maple all together, or stayed in GMS. ^^

Exactly what I'm getting at, since its pretty much what I'm doing in a month.

[Hazzy]

I honestly find it hard to believe that Nexon lost any significant amount of revenue due to pServers. I agree people did leave, but I doubt that it even shows up on radar when compared to the people lost to the game by Hacking Bans, or their recent Autobans (Hak, the PE thing <_<) Time and money spent to prevent/reduce hacking could have been spent on development. I'm sure they would get more people/make more people happy with Nexon if they 1) didn't sue Odin 2) put some funds into customer service and 3) put the money they're wasting in the pServer Hunt-down into development.

[Mira]

I'm actually glad they sued Odin, it brought a lot of my friends back. =/

[Hazzy]

I'm actually glad they sued Odin, it brought a lot of my friends back. =/

If Nexon could run their server with half the effectiveness which most Private Servers run, I myself would become an active gMSer again. Alas, they don't. They censor "pigs", "grape", and "wish it". Serious bugs appear, and they wait months to fix it. Two examples: Both Obis Glitch PQ eras. I honestly doubt it would take any serious modifications to stop both of the bugs from working without the need for an autoban. They run their company, who's to say they can't have a server check/patch a day after the patch to fix a serious bug? Instead they let it live on for months. .__.

Maybe Nexon will actually try and make their services better than pServers. (Services include customer support.)
/end minirant

Cause I'm sure it'll be asked, yes I do support Private Servers. Do I play in one? Fiels Rules and Regulations prohibit any answer to that question.

[HiiEN]

To me it looks like although Private Servers might be looked down on in some aspects and looked on as a better way out of GMS's "crappy" service, I believe it does some good in inciting a bit of competition to win users back. Of course, I could be wrong but so far that's what it looks like to me.

[Mira]

To me it looks like although Private Servers might be looked down on in some aspects and looked on as a better way out of GMS's "crappy" service, I believe it does some good in inciting a bit of competition to win users back. Of course, I could be wrong but so far that's what it looks like to me.

Well, nexon's customer service has "improved" starting with patch .56. I'm happy they have some compeition, so they have to get better to stay on top. If Pservers get completly wiped out, I wonder what will happen to our service, though. =/

[HiiEN]

Well, nexon's customer service has "improved" starting with patch .56. I'm happy they have some compeition, so they have to get better to stay on top. If Pservers get completly wiped out, I wonder what will happen to our service, though. =/
Yeah I was thinking about that too. It's easy to get lazy again when you know you're the only one controlling the system since everyone is forced to go your way or just leave. But I guess only time will tell on that, unless Nexon really did decide to pull their weight and go all out like they've been saying they would for the past two years.

[Mira]

Yeah I was thinking about that too. It's easy to get lazy again when you know you're the only one controlling the system since everyone is forced to go your way or just leave. But I guess only time will tell on that, unless Nexon really did decide to pull their weight and go all out like they've been saying they would for the past two years.

I personally can't wait untill the next patch. I'm wondering if they will inform us if/when the patch is extended. By inform, i mean tell us why it's extended and what the problem is. If they continue to do what they did for patch .56 (The informing part, not extending it 2493402 hours.) i'll be very happy.

What will put it over the top for me is if they fix all the stupid broke quests!

[Moti]

I doubt they'll fix the quests, since, let's say, that Amoria quest has been broken since Amoria came out. I WOULD like them to fix the quests though...

Yeah, Nexon seems to be improving their customer service lately, although at first it just seemed like they're faking being nice, since just before 0.56 they were... almost non-existant.
But I'm fine with what they're doing right now. My only will from Nexon is NOT to pull another 26 hour patch...

[Silver_ice]

priv servers for most people, were a nice relax from maplestorys gm free game. but i think nexon might be more concerned with Diablo 3 and some other games coming out.. this summer its gonna be big.

[Mira]

I doubt they'll fix the quests, since, let's say, that Amoria quest has been broken since Amoria came out. I WOULD like them to fix the quests though...

Yeah, Nexon seems to be improving their customer service lately, although at first it just seemed like they're faking being nice, since just before 0.56 they were... almost non-existant.
But I'm fine with what they're doing right now. My only will from Nexon is NOT to pull another 26 hour patch...

Moti, could you send me a ss of the broken quest? I'd really appricate it. =)

I know what you mean though, they seem fake, like they know they've done wrong and their to afraid to admit it. It was a 25 hr and 40 minute patch, but still. :P

[Moti]

It's that quest that after you finish it, it goes to your New Quests list, not completed... Which is really annoying.

Oh yeah, I wonder how come nobody pointed up their compensations... And how they failed with the 2x EXP for 6 hours one, lmao. Oh well. At least they gave us a new date, which is tomorrow, so people should'nt complain.

[ArowanaW]

I personally think that no matter what stuff Nexon releases, all the ignorant people stay, it will still be crowded in the servers, you will still get defamed for nothing, be ksed, etc. You just don't have that in Pservers!

[HiiEN]

Well I don't know how long they'll be keeping it up, but at least they give somewhat of a reason and talk to the general public on as to why they say, possibly extend the patch. It's better than nothing. Of course, there are always the people who criticize Nexon no matter what they do.

I don't remember how exactly the history of complaining went, but it kinda went like this:

When we got 4th job, people said where was Horntail?
When we got Horntail, people said when are we getting Pirates?

Or for example, it's like when you finally get an A in one of your hardest classes and show your parents, they ask "Why isn't it an A+?"

I know there were some pretty prominent ones if I could recall them, but it's too late for me to remember but you get the point right? Anyways there will always be dissatisfied people, it's just how things are. But at the moment Nexon is making an effort you have to admit, regardless if this is a one time thing or a permanent thing, so you have to give it to them for at the VERY least that.

[wobbufet]

I think nexon should try to focus on upgrading their servers and decreasing all the lag and server crashes instead of releasing new content. When all the lag issues are over they can resume releasing new areas and stuff... It's no use to have new areas when you can barely visit them because you keep disconnecting on the boat -.- (Yeah it happened to me 3 times while trying to visit Ariant)

[Raven]

Nexon getting off their ace and in fact adding REAL content for once is a major positive for anyone whether or not they play private servers. (Private servers aren't dead, just more private now.) In the months to come leading up to christmas even we should get a TON of content if Nexon America knows what they are doing.

[xDae]

In all I think Nexon is starting to shape up. Whether it was old players leaving due to lack of new content, or new ones leaving for private servers because they dont wanna earn levels, they are releasing bigger and better patches each time. Bugged as they are, you still have to give them credit. At least they are trying.....right?

[wobbufet]

In all I think Nexon is starting to shape up. Whether it was old players leaving due to lack of new content, or new ones leaving for private servers because they dont wanna earn levels, they are releasing bigger and better patches each time. Bugged as they are, you still have to give them credit. At least they are trying.....right?

It seems like they are trying to improve and I like it :p

Although I still think they should try improving their servers instead of the content first.

[Hazzy]

In all I think Nexon is starting to shape up.

Exactly what was said after we got 4th job. It was only a few months before Nexon returned to their low-quality self.

[wobbufet]

Exactly what was said after we got 4th job. It was only a few months before Nexon returned to their low-quality self.

I think it was kind of stupid that people said nexon was beginning to shape up after 4th job, all because of one good patch. Ofcourse everybody was glad that they finally released 4th job, but that's the only good thing they did.

[Hazzy]

I think it was kind of stupid that people said nexon was beginning to shape up after 4th job, all because of one good patch. Ofcourse everybody was glad that they finally released 4th job, but that's the only good thing they did.

I might be mistaking this with something else, but didn't they have a small Good-Company Streak?

December before 4th job was when Odin got started... Wow, I just made that connection. :eek:
Odin starts up, 4th job comes out, epic Experience Events.

[Blake]

I do believe they are trying to progress faster than private servers, and that is of course a positive thing. I also believe they may be trying to get a better grade by the BBB, seeing as they were very recently an F rating.

[Hazzy]

I do believe they are trying to progress faster than private servers, and that is of course a positive thing. I also believe they may be trying to get a better grade by the BBB, seeing as they were very recently an F rating.

Well now, this is interesting. I can bring that up every time I hear a Hate-Message about Private Servers. xD

[wobbufet]

That F rating was already improved to a B rating I believe :p So no good argument there :(

[Hazzy]

That F rating was already improved to a B rating I believe :p So no good argument there :(

Link to it please?

Improving is easy, maintaining is what requires time, money, and skillz.

[Blake]

Yes, they already have improved quite a bit, but it was a matter that they WERE an F rating, not that they are.

[wobbufet]

http://www.la.bbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=100061 928

[Lozmaster]

It's that quest that after you finish it, it goes to your New Quests list, not completed... Which is really annoying.


Uhh, thats been fixed for a good few patches now:p

[Cardboardsnail]

Nexon's gotta save it's cash cow somehow :)

[Saver]

Private servers will always exist, so they can't get rid of them all.
But as they begin to get popular and populated, Nexon will take action to break them down.

Basically, Nexon wants to be "the one place" to play MapleStory.
If only they hosted more events and such, they wouldn't have to worry about other people leaving to P-servers.

[Cardboardsnail]

Private servers will always exist, so they can't get rid of them all.
But as they begin to get popular and populated, Nexon will take action to break them down.

Basically, Nexon wants to be "the one place" to play MapleStory.
If only they hosted more events and such, they wouldn't have to worry about other people leaving to P-servers.

Even if they did host more events, there will still be people who aren't willing to grind

[Saver]

Even if they did host more events, there will still be people who aren't willing to grind

But what are private servers?
In most of them, it takes about 2 weeks to get to level 200 if you really tried for it.
Then, they go and make another character of a new class and repeat the process.

After one has every class at level 200, what's left? Events.
I can't see level 200's training for the hell of it 4 - 8 hours a day without any more gain.

That's how I see it anyways.

[Cardboardsnail]

But what are private servers?
In most of them, it takes about 2 weeks to get to level 200 if you really tried for it.
Then, they go and make another character of a new class and repeat the process.

After one has every class at level 200, what's left? Events.
I can't see level 200's training for the hell of it 4 - 8 hours a day without any more gain.

That's how I see it anyways.

That's how I see it too

That's why I don't play private servers of any sort (Including ragnarok servers)

[Hazzy]

Private servers will always exist, so they can't get rid of them all.
But as they begin to get popular and populated, Nexon will take action to break them down.

Basically, Nexon wants to be "the one place" to play MapleStory.
If only they hosted more events and such, they wouldn't have to worry about other people leaving to P-servers.

It's not just events, it's Nexon - Mapler Interactions. Nexon has autobans that ban more legit players than hackers. The Filters are also annoying. I hate not being able to say "grape", "wish it", "pigs", "blow", ect. <_<

[Cardboardsnail]

Yeah I hate not being able to say "savage blow"

[Hazzy]

But what are private servers?
In most of them, it takes about 2 weeks to get to level 200 if you really tried for it.
Then, they go and make another character of a new class and repeat the process.

After one has every class at level 200, what's left? Events.
I can't see level 200's training for the hell of it 4 - 8 hours a day without any more gain.

That's how I see it anyways.

Some people just want to play servers with more than 100x Rates. Servers with over 100 rates usually die down fast. All the serious, large servers barely exceed 50x rates.
(Odin was 8x, not sure about Flowison, I know a growing server that's 30x)