Aesop's Citation Thread

[Capricorn]

This is whenever I find interesting tidbits about the game and cite them, probably only relevant to classes I'll play. Probably more for myself because I'm like that, but yeah. Feel free to likewise offer cool random details, or dispute things.

Sources:

Elenore removed from Grandis Shop (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/90052-%5Binnovation%5D-patch-notes-discussion.html#post1200918)

Marbas' Boost Caps at 20% at Max (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/76815-pet-marbas.html#post1022099)

Gabriel's Shop (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdnf.wikiwiki.jp%2F%3F%25C 8%25EB%25CC%25A9%25A5%25B7%25A5%25E7%25A5%25C3%25A 5%25D7&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=EUC-JP)

King's Relic/Tower Of Death Titles Quest Line & Materials (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/80739-kings-relic-title-quests.html#post1067899)

What Independent M/P. Atk Do (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/79440-epic-item-abel-ring-question.html) - How Much Of Each Modifies Damage (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/80904-independant-attack-strength.html#post1070087)

Outer World Guide (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/70299-otherworld-dungeon-guide-discussion.html) - Read this you scrubs.

Eventual Basic Character Change (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/79679-hory-chet-basic-character-appearance-altered.html)

Difference Between Ancient Elven Ring and Lala Miss Dragon (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/f-mechanic/73598-suggested-accessories.html#post985671) - Lala Miss Dragon Does Not Stack Hence 15% Int Increase Only (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/52425-does-lala-miss-dragon-stack-itself.html)
- Ancient Elven Ring Stacks Twice 9% Each Time For A Total Of 18% (Additive) - Ask Mark
- Both rings only increase base int to note as well
- Verified, this means that hybrid magic/phys classes (i.e. BMs/Spits/Fmechs/Asuras) need not to opt for Ancient Elven Ring unless they want that 3% difference. But of course this means that for every other magic class this is the only ring to get. Obviously Ancient Elven Ring best ring ever etc.

Unlimited Sprite File Sizes (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/images-video-art-sound/76895-reupload-battery-hud-rebirth-also-other-sprite-updates-rebirth-8.html#post1060723) - Any mods are possible now.

Third Strike (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/79682-dungeon-fighter-revolution-07-14-2011-a.html)

22 Elemental Points = 10% Damage (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/guide-submission/79000-guide-elemental-damage.html) - Confirmed since resistance works in same behaviour and self tested.

How Many Gold Candles It Takes (http://i51.tinypic.com/28uhec.jpg)

Arad Senki Art Book (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v114/cale6281/Arad%20Senki%20Art%20Book/)

Future Legacy Patch Buff (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/69510-upcoming-legacy-patch.html)

Can Upgrade 5 Piece Legacy Sets Later On (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/74181-legacy-upgrades.html)

Pel Los Increases Current Strength, Not Base; Stacks Once (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/general-discussion/69943-about-pel-los.html) - The stacking once is something they'll add in later on I suspect.

Why Pel Los Is Better Than Screaming Necklace For Str Fixed Damage Classes (http://forum.nexon.net/PopTag/forums/permalink/7021001/7020756/ShowThread.aspx#7020756) - Claims Pel Los stacks twice for 23% total increase in strength, can't confirm yet.

Additional Info For Screaming Necklace/Pel Los/Ancient Elven Ring Comparison (http://forum.nexon.net/PopTag/forums/permalink/7014611/7004327/ShowThread.aspx#7004327)

Why Soul Chaser Is Inferior to Screaming Necklace (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/questions-answers/70663-screaming-bracelet-vs-necklace.html#post929512) - For Mark, since I remember you crying your dumb eyes out over it never dropping.

Flash Version Of Dimension Of Crack Boss (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/81193-practice-2nd-pattern-crack-boss.html)

Chronicle 2 Effects That Almost No One Here Will Achieve:

Zooming Tombstone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Aapf3belA&feature=player_embedded) - Ambush Tombstone (http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=f_cuzs&logNo=50104398484&categoryNo=0&parentCategoryNo=1&viewDate=&currentPage=1&postListTopCurrentPage=1&from=section)

Fierce Nen Shot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_WaWn_UGE&feature=player_embedded)

Specialty Raging Dragon Slash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28xgyDdepsU&feature=player_embedded)

Specialty Chaos Hammer (http://blog.naver.com/h9827549/70104336766)

Drop Lists & Articles:

Chron 2 Drop Tables (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9259868/alldroptables.html) - Blue, Green, Yellow, Red; Normal, Experts, Masters, Kings.

Exclusive Noire Ferra Drop List (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/64492-%5Bguide%5D-noir-ferra-exclusive-drops.html)

Exclusive Screaming Cave Drop List (http://www.dnfonlines.com/exclusive-unique-drops/)

Exclusive Vilmark and Relic Drop List (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/57540-%5Bguide%5D-vilmark-kings-ruins-exclusive-drops.html)

Hightech, Illusion, and Deep Sea Accessories (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/75177-hightech-illusion-deep-sea-accessories.html)

Monster Card List (http://wiki.dfo-world.com/index.php?title=Monster_Card)

NPC Gifting List (http://wiki.dfo-world.com/index.php?title=NPC_Relationship)

Gruebeck VP Armors (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/43369-new-victory-points-gear.html)

Special Boss Uniques (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/korea/81079-boss-special-uniques.html)

Tools:

DnF Extractor (http://download.exrpg.com/Extractor_Suite_setup.rar) - English Patch (http://www.mediafire.com/?nxicnatagto)

Backwards Chinese Mod Site (http://dl.178.com/dnf/)

Arad Wiki (http://dnf.wikiwiki.jp/?FrontPage)

[mrcowcow]

I dispute that any of that is even interesting.

Just kidding. Upload your mods too! E:

[Piggy 2.0]

I dispute that any of that is even interesting.

Just kidding. Upload your mods too! E:

What he said. I want that tombstone mod qq

[Capricorn]

Wow, what do you take me for. It'll take cash for me to upload.

100k per mod. Deal with it.

I kid.


I dispute that any of that is even interesting.

Just kidding. Upload your mods too! E:

No one seems to be interested ;3;

[Mark]

Man, I hate those asian video sites. They never load properly for me.

But this is missing some info about elemental damage working on a dual element weapon.

[Capricorn]

Oh right, thanks.


22 Elemental Points = 10% Damage (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/guide-submission/79000-guide-elemental-damage.html) - Confirmed since resistance works in same behaviour and self tested.

Under #5, I think this guy explains it pretty well. Then again I'm just reading the math though. If it doesn't seem to make sense still I can explain it better.

[Mark]

Oh. He basically says it is fine if you have a dual element weapon as long as fire damage is stacked higher than light. So, Passion Chakra will override the Khai buff.

[Piggy 2.0]

...that...that ambush tombstone...

I will go to the ends of the earth for that.

[Capricorn]

Oh. He basically says it is fine if you have a dual element weapon as long as fire damage is stacked higher than light. So, Passion Chakra will override the Khai buff.

Pretty much, if you stack it hard enough the light bonus from khai will be neglected unless the monster has a weakness to it. So stacking multiple elements isn't a bad thing since the game mechanics will always mostly operate into your favour as much as possible.

[mrcowcow]

Man, I hate those asian video sites. They never load properly for me.

But this is missing some info about elemental damage working on a dual element weapon.

If you ever need video, I can download it for you and re-upload it to a file sharing site for a viewing pleasure. <3

[mrcowcow]

sprite_monster_peterthepiper.NPK (http://www.4shared.com/file/kse3GOZ9/sprite_monster_peterthepiper.html)

Now to replace his soundpacks with HUAEHUAEHUAE and all will be complete... but too lazy.

[tehflyer]

Chronicle 2 Effects That Almost No One Here Will Achieve:
Ambush Tombstone (http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=f_cuzs&logNo=50104398484&categoryNo=0&parentCategoryNo=1&viewDate=&currentPage=1&postListTopCurrentPage=1&from=section)

Don't you worry Alex....5/9 pieces. I'll be that person who wins.

[Capricorn]

sprite_monster_peterthepiper.NPK (http://www.4shared.com/file/kse3GOZ9/sprite_monster_peterthepiper.html)

Now to replace his soundpacks with HUAEHUAEHUAE and all will be complete... but too lazy.

wow really do you wanna make this a repository for mod files now really

[Capricorn]

For Felix and Hitrate (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/slayer/80725-calling-all-slayers-lv62-above.html)

[Mark]

For Mark, since I remember you crying your dumb eyes out over it never dropping.

Looool, just saw this. What an exaggeration. Stupidsop.

[FelixTM]

Currently only Bracelet is out.

What? All three of those Accessories are out. I'm working on those Feat quests right now.


For Felix and Hitrate (http://www.dfosource.com/forum/slayer/80725-calling-all-slayers-lv62-above.html)

But my question isn't whether Hit Rate affects both Magic and Physical skills. I had little doubt that it did. I want to know for sure it affects both melee and non-melee. I don't know which Asura skills are melee and which are non-melee. How many non-melee skills did he use in that video? Ghost Orb? If you can confirm for me he used multiple non-melee skills, that would be good enough for me.

[mrcowcow]

I can't really say what differentiates melee from non-melee, as it's sort of a matter of semantics. As a Ranger, I use a ranged default attack that takes on the elemental attribute of a weapon. For simplicity, generally the waves (which only take on the element of their skill) are considered ranged. I'm not sure about Wave Wheel Slasher and Wave Radiation, so I'll just list the hits as follows, in order of the video.

Neutral Wave Sword: 2 hits, 2 misses
Normal Slashes: 3 hits
Wave Wheel Slasher: 1 hit upon contact grab, 20 hits with wheel spin
Wave Radiation: 1 hit
Neutral Wave Sword: 2 hits
Asura Spirit Crescent: 3 hits
Wave Wheel Slasher: 1 hit upon contact grab, 19 hits with the wheel spin
Neutral Wave Sword: 1 hit
Ice Wave Sword: no connects
Wave Radiation: 1 hit
Neutral Wave Sword: 1 miss
Normal Slashes: 1 hit
Wave Wheel Slasher: 1 hit upon contact grab, 7 hits with wheel spin
Neutral Wave Sword: 1 hit
Ice Wave Sword: 4 hits
Ghost Orb: 21 hits
Asura Spirit Crescent: 7 hits, 1 miss
Neutral Wave Sword: 2 hits
Wave Wheel Slasher: 1 hit upon contact grab, 8 hits with wheel spin
Fire Wave Sword: 1 hit
Neutral Wave Sword: 1 hit

I'll let Alex tell you which ones are melee and which ones aren't, since I'm no Asura buff.

[Mark]

I can pretty much confirm hit rate works on Magic classes. I've had it since patch day and I could notice a difference right away. Some mobs in Oceanic Express have stupid evasion for some reason. (Scarbelly, and some of those Merman champions.) But everything else I rarely miss on Kings and Hero's roads.

[Capricorn]

Melee: NWS, Radiation, WWS, Basic X

Ranged: FWS, IWS, Ghost Orb, ASC

So he pretty much used an equal amount of both.

[Dyxanije]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/Dyxanije/DFO2011-07-2210-00-38-55.png

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/Dyxanije/DFO2011-07-2209-59-40-47.png

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/Dyxanije/DFO2011-07-2210-00-15-91.png

[Xaqiri]

But my question isn't whether Hit Rate affects both Magic and Physical skills. I had little doubt that it did. I want to know for sure it affects both melee and non-melee. I don't know which Asura skills are melee and which are non-melee. How many non-melee skills did he use in that video? Ghost Orb? If you can confirm for me he used multiple non-melee skills, that would be good enough for me.

Hit Rate affects both ranged and melee. The Slayer weapon masteries are the only odd ones(afaik), in that they only affect physical hit rate, something Nexon failed to mention in the English descriptions(the Korean descriptions say phy hit rate, instead of just hit rate).

[Capricorn]

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/Dyxanije/DFO2011-07-2210-00-38-55.png

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/Dyxanije/DFO2011-07-2209-59-40-47.png

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/Dyxanije/DFO2011-07-2210-00-15-91.png

The math is like dead easy even <_<

It's 23% for sure holy fuck I want one ;_;

[Capricorn]

For Mark:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=51NHC5XQ

I'll work on Flamba later, this is just to remind myself.

[Capricorn]

Am going to bump this because I cannot see it, AND probably gonna dump mods here later on depending on how I feel.

[mrcowcow]

Doofus, just go to the bottom of the DFO section and select beginning from the show threads from section

[Capricorn]

no!