Opeth's tips for unwashed Papulatus soloing

[Mark]

Note: This guide assumes you're level 120+ and/or capable of keeping Pap cornered, but have lousy HP.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Unholy_Abyssion/Pap1.png

As you can see, I suffer from erectile dysfunction in the HP department. (I have washed a little, but clearly not enough to survive a bomb explosion.) It's rather depressing that at 141 I still can't tank bombs. But this doesn't stop me from soloing Pap efficiently whenever I feel like it. So if you know you're strong enough, but still worried about dying, then keep reading.

Just so you can get a feeling for how strong you have to be, I'll show you my damage range with a Warrior Elixir:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Unholy_Abyssion/Pap3.png

It has seen better days, but it gets the job done. I can KB Pap about 90% of the time. I assume you can keep Pap KB'd with 3.5k range at the least. Though, keep in mind my SE is at level 20.

Here's some things about Pap you should know about:

-At about 95% HP is when he'll start healing/summoning Bombs.
-Pap can only summon 4 at a time, and 50 on the screen at one time.
-Bombs will only spawn on the top or bottom. Never on both.
-Bomb explosions are Weapon Attack. So Pain Relievers from Omega Sector will help bring down the damage in case your HP is close enough to survive.
-After healing, Pap has about 1 second of invincibility. Keep this in mind before you go wasting Snipe. :f3:
-Pap can, and has double-casted before. It's hard to explain, but I know it wasn't lag. First he used the Lightning skill, then immediately after summoned bombs. It caught me off guard, almost killing me. So keep your eyes peeled.
-Keep your sounds on! When avoiding bombs you won't always be able to see Pap. Keeping your sounds on will help you notice when bombs are being summoned off screen so you don't accidentally run into them while getting back into position.

Now for the most important part of any unwashed Papulatus solo...
BOMB DODGING :eek:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Unholy_Abyssion/Pap2.png

Looking at that image that I have provided for you, the red circle is where you should be standing at all times. While standing there and keeping Pap KB'd up against the wall his Stun or Dispel can't reach you. The green circle represents your "Danger Zone." After Pap summons bombs, they'll spawn as far back as the edge of the circle. Which could pose troublesome if you don't run away in time. The key is to run away as soon as you see the summoning animation. When I mean run, I mean RUN. Don't jump either. Jumping can cause you to set off a bomb prematurely and thus pwning you when you land. However just running allows for bomb bump damage and lovely temporary invincibility. It helps to have a mount in this situation, but don't stay on it too long as you can't use pots on them. After 50 bombs have been summoned on top, the rest is easy until second form.

Tip from Aids:
If you are able to knock back Pap consistently during the first form, I have a very useful technique. As you pin Pap in a corner of your pleasing, once he hides, you run/hog over to the opposite side and place Puppet. Quickly run back and continue pinning. What this does is it allows you to continuously shoot Pap and it "disables" his ability to hide / use magic which allows more time shooting and less time waiting. Make sure the Puppet is as far as possible and it will only be beneficial if you can knock back repeatedly. Test it out and stay a safe distance but make sure to re-Puppet after it expires while Pap hides again. Only do this while bombs are maxed, or else you're going to have problems.

What should happen if Pap breaks free or you're not able to constantly KB:

Before 4th job came around I was around 132 when I first successfully soloed Pap. Back then, Pap walked all over you. Unless you had a bunch of Onyx Apples on you, you were at the mercy of Pap and his bombs. If you're unable to keep Pap up against the wall, your best bet is to keep your distance. Never let him get close enough to stun you. If you should get cornered against the wall, quickly run through him or pray he uses 1/1 and hides in his Clock. As always, utilize your Puppet. It's your best friend. Whenever Pap hides in his Clock, run as close as you can and Puppet behind him. While Pap is focused on your Puppet he actually spawns bombs further away from you. Really not much I can say about this. Just gauge your distance, and use the same bomb dodging techniques I explained previously.

Killing Second form:

Might as well cover this too. As soon as you kill the first form, Strafe the second form and immediately turn behind you and Puppet. Now that you have Pap locked in your clutches, it's smooth sailing. Unless you f'uck up and get pinned. Then you're in trouble.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Unholy_Abyssion/Pap4.png

It helps to keep an eye on how much damage your Puppet is taking so you can back off and prepare your next Puppet. Pap does around 300 to 2,400 damage to a Puppet, so pay attention. As soon as your Puppet dies, Strafe Pap one last time, and turn around and Puppet behind you again, and duck to let Pap float over you, then begin your assault again. Don't try to outrun him, he's faster than you. If you fail to keep Pap locked one of two things will happen:

He'll pin you which could very easily end your solo right then and there.
He'll float up to the top and hover around the platforms.

Worst case scenario is when you get pinned. Only advice I can give when that happens is to stay calm, and wait for him to drift off far enough for you to escape. When you do find your chance to escape, jump cast Puppet as soon as you can, and duck. With enough patience and dexterity (lol) you'll eventually emerge the victor. With a bunch of free pots, mesos and the ever annoying Ice Demon 30 (Brandish pls) you should have actually profited. :excellent:

Well, if you've even bothered reading this far, then you must be interested in soloing Pap. So, good luck and stay calm.

Oh yeah, cleaning up is fun too.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Unholy_Abyssion/Pap5.png

[KaidaTan]

Very good guide. I'll be sure to point some people at it. Perhaps, though, you should have covered what to do if you can't KB pap constantly? I suspect that most of the people who can't tank a hit can't KB him either. I mean, I saw your giant red text at the top, but it could feel like a more complete guide with that as a sidenote.

[Mark]

Hmm. Good point. I'll edit in a quick part about Pap roaming around.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[Andrew]

This is a very nice guide~
I have sacrificed some AP and put it into HP.
(from the Bloodmaster thread on sw.net)
I can now survive a bomb explosion 98% of the time~
Also about the "invincible" issue, I learned the hard way F3. *Lv1 Snipe*

The other day, I was papping with my Bishop BF, and he died before the 2nd form, so I soloed the rest. Then when the 2nd form emerged, I was "pinned." My reaction wasn't fast enough and It touched me for 5k T_T. Oh well~

[Greg22]

Nice guide, Mark. Too bad you couldn't contribute stuff like this to Sleepywood (lol).

I've got a friend who hasn't found a good pap drop in over 100 solos. Damn he sucks.

[Hero]

"RUN THE FUCK AWAY WHEN YOU SEE THIS. F5"

I lol'd so hard. Awesome guide. :f2:

[Mark]

Thanks for the feedback, guys. :cool:


I've got a friend who hasn't found a good pap drop in over 100 solos. Damn he sucks.

It's true. I'm incredibly unlucky. :f4:

[Kevo]

Nice guide, Mark. Too bad you couldn't contribute stuff like this to Sleepywood (lol).

I've got a friend who hasn't found a good pap drop in over 100 solos. Damn he sucks.

Any Papulatus fight involving me = Infinity 20 Dropping T__T

[Greg22]

Isn't that what you got from pap like two days ago, Mark. LOL.
You and Kevo could become very good unlucky papping buddies.

[StudyPunkRockism]

When you do find your chance to escape, jump cast Puppet as soon as you can, and duck. With enough patience and dexterity (lol) you'll eventually emerge the victor.
You can't jump while holding down anymore. That means you have to stand up for a split second to jump cast.

[Mark]

You can't jump while holding down anymore. That means you have to stand up for a split second to jump cast.

Well...yeah. Anyone in their right mind who is pinned by Pap isn't going to stand in place when they get a chance to move. :wink:

[KaidaTan]

Thrust is a godsend if you get pinned by 2nd form. I remember one time I was literally as far in the corner as I could be and he was hovering over me. I waited for like 5 minutes before he gave me enough room to move right a few pixels. Repeat that like 10 more times. Eventually he was far enough left of me so I ran like mad, jump-casted puppet, and finished him. I'm pretty sure that I couldn't have gotten out of there without Thrust + Patience.

On a sidenote, Thrust as also saved my life at Tengu, Anego, and Bodyguard A.

As far as jump-casting puppet goes though, I wouldn't do it unless you're sure you can do it in a pinch. Nothing would be worse than trying to jump-cast puppet but instead casting puppet in place while 2nd form is breathing down your neck. I suggest practice (and/or a better keyboard if you're inconsistent).

[Mark]

Yeah, I'm a Thrust supporter myself. I have level 15 Thrust and I don't regret it.

Thing about Puppet is after you get a chance to run, Pap is most likely going to be right on top of you. Jump casting is the only way to get out of that situation from my past experiences. Whenever I fail to jump cast I seem to just jump in the air instead of standing in place and casting Puppet. I don't know if people regularly have problems and do the opposite.

[pruny]

This thread has given me some hope.

Well, I was planning to follow the Blood Master Build on Sleepywood Forums to
have enough HP for Papulatus but this thread is giving me second thoughts.

So it would probably be a good idea to stop dumping points and just get the
necessary damage range to pin Pap to the wall, right?

Also, another question I have is, would "running the fuck away" using the plain
old 100% speed be OK?

[Retalion]

This thread has given me some hope.

Well, I was planning to follow the Blood Master Build on Sleepywood Forums to
have enough HP for Papulatus but this thread is giving me second thoughts.

So it would probably be a good idea to stop dumping points and just get the
necessary damage range to pin Pap to the wall, right?

Also, another question I have is, would "running the fuck away" using the plain
old 100% speed be OK?

Note that Ive never solo'd pap (never really tried) but I will say this: You should almost never have 100% speed. You should have a few odd points of speed here and there from 10/30% scrolls working on shoes/overalls (lets say 5?) and throw on a speed pill and you're at 115ish already. I would say speed and jump should help in avoiding bombs but its not necessary.

[Aggrovated]

Note that Ive never solo'd pap (never really tried) but I will say this: You should almost never have 100% speed. You should have a few odd points of speed here and there from 10/30% scrolls working on shoes/overalls (lets say 5?) and throw on a speed pill and you're at 115ish already. I would say speed and jump should help in avoiding bombs but its not necessary.

I found that having a fair bit of speed and jump can save you from bombs. With just enough jump you can completely evade the explosion by just jumping. It is risky, but it has saved me numerous times.

[Mark]

I found that having a fair bit of speed and jump can save you from bombs. With just enough jump you can completely evade the explosion by just jumping. It is risky, but it has saved me numerous times.

Yeah, I can vouch for this. Before I sold my old shoes to my lovely girlfriend, I had 17 Jump under my belt. If I jumped at the right moment I could clear an explosion entirely. It was nice to have, but I sadly don't own the shoes anymore. I also have 37 passive speed...so I am pretty evasive in my own rights.

[Shardsniper0]

Im a Marksman myself and I always escape the 2nd body. All you have to do is wait for pap to move the oppisite direction of the direction you are heading for. Right when you get the chance use ur hog and then run far, but not all the way to the corner. Cancel out hog and puppet as fast as possible(I usually have 1-2 seconds to spare) and duck so it can go over you. This must be must easier with silver mane because this works for me and I have normal hog.

This does not work if you are too far into the corner because pap cannot move the direction you want him to move if there is a wall in front of him.

[Aids]

If you are able to knockback pap without apples or even with apples, during the first form, I have a very useful technique. As you pin pap in a corner of your pleasing, once he hides, you run/hog over to the opposite side and place puppet. Quickly run back and continue pinning. What this does is it allows you to continuously shoot pap and it "disables" his ability to hide which allows more time shooting and less time waiting. Make sure the puppet is as far as possible and it will only be beneficial if you can knockback repeatedly. Also, I don't think it works if you're duoing pap either. However, it saves alot of time on those apples for a quicker solo. Test it out and stay a safe distance but make sure to re-puppet after it expires while pap hides again. Oh, and one last thing....I use the front piece of the structure (circled green in the guide) to measure how far away I should be so you dont get dispelled or stunned. Good luck on your solos. :cool:

[Mark]

Ooooh, nice technique. I haven't thought of using Puppet like that. Do you mind if I throw your part into the guide?

[Shardsniper0]

When I papped with unwashed hp, I tryed to use that technique where you put puppet on the other side of the screen so pap could not atack. This is very risky when the bombs are not maxed out yet because pap becomes invincible when he heals while makes him able to move for a couple seconds. If he moves close enough he can stun you and if ur unlucky he will spawn a bomb next to you and you will die.

Another problem using this technique if bombs are not maxed out is that he can summon bombs to act like sheilds and pap can get closer that way which is risky.

I use this technique all the time but just remember to move back a bit when he heals becuase he will almost be always be walking, dispeling, stunning. Also there is almost no risk in using this technique if the bombs are maxed out and you can kb pap 90% of the time.

[ichikiiler]

i think once it change to 2nd form, summon puppet behind of you and duck. It will pass through you and goes to the puppet. then its time for you to att. do the same thing when the puppet is gone.

[Mark]

When I papped with unwashed hp, I tryed to use that technique where you put puppet on the other side of the screen so pap could not atack. This is very risky when the bombs are not maxed out yet because pap becomes invincible when he heals while makes him able to move for a couple seconds. If he moves close enough he can stun you and if ur unlucky he will spawn a bomb next to you and you will die.

Another problem using this technique if bombs are not maxed out is that he can summon bombs to act like sheilds and pap can get closer that way which is risky.

I use this technique all the time but just remember to move back a bit when he heals becuase he will almost be always be walking, dispeling, stunning. Also there is almost no risk in using this technique if the bombs are maxed out and you can kb pap 90% of the time.

Are you able to knockback Pap consistently? Because that's the only way I could see this technique working. If you're unable to keep him back of course he's going to run you down to try and reach your Puppet. Definitely not recommended if you're not strong enough.

[Shardsniper0]

I knock him back 95%(about the chance i don't get crit) of the time with a 20 atck pot and 90% of the time with 12 atck pot, what im saying is that if you have unwashed hp it is riskier to put the puppet on the other side of the room because when he heals he becomes invincible for a couple seconds which lets him move(If you are not careful, he will stun you as he comes closer and summon a bomb next to you.

[Aids]

Ooooh, nice technique. I haven't thought of using Puppet like that. Do you mind if I throw your part into the guide?

Go for it :)

[Mark]

I tried that Puppet thing a few hours ago and its great. Saves a lot on pots. Pap got a bit unruly at times, but the overall outcome is good.

[Aids]

I tried that Puppet thing a few hours ago and its great. Saves a lot on pots. Pap got a bit unruly at times, but the overall outcome is good.

Sounds good :). I noticed it on a video once. Try it on other bosses too, its fun to play with.

[pruny]

If it's not too much to ask.
Could you or anyone else post a video of this guide being carried out in a Papulatus solo?
Thank you in advance.

[Itay]

Ohh this is a very nice guide. Could you post what kind and how many pots to bring too?

[Mark]

If it's not too much to ask.
Could you or anyone else post a video of this guide being carried out in a Papulatus solo?
Thank you in advance.

I could try. Fraps doesn't run too well on my PC, and if you noticed by the screenies I play with graphics on low. :f3:


Ohh this is a very nice guide. Could you post what kind and how many pots to bring too?

This is what I do: Bring Pinks/Powers a long to use whenever Pap 1/1s and about 400 Barbs will last me through 1 fight. Bring 1k if you're not sure. Then whatever pinks/powers Pap drops from the first kill, you can use on the second. I just keep recycling them.

[Mark]

Just a little update on the FRAPs thing. It won't work on my PC, so if anyone else is willing to make/post a video that'd be good.

[Manda]

This is what I do: Bring Pinks/Powers a long to use whenever Pap 1/1s and about 400 Barbs will last me through 1 fight. Bring 1k if you're not sure. Then whatever pinks/powers Pap drops from the first kill, you can use on the second. I just keep recycling them.

Or use Manda's pinks/powers stash. :f3:

And nice guide, even though I keep failing at soloing, but that's normal for me. :f4: And I wonder if I could Fraps it for you... not sure how that would work though.

[Mark]

Or use Manda's pinks/powers stash. :f3:

And nice guide, even though I keep failing at soloing, but that's normal for me. :f4: And I wonder if I could Fraps it for you... not sure how that would work though.

I only used your Pinks when we were duoing and you didn't feel like getting blown up. :f4: I always give you the Pink/Powers at the end anyway. ;[

But I suppose if you want to try frapping for me, and just not doing any damage, that'd be fine. Might be a bit boring though. :f3:

[Manda]

I only used your Pinks when we were duoing and you didn't feel like getting blown up. :f4: I always give you the Pink/Powers at the end anyway. ;[

But I suppose if you want to try frapping for me, and just not doing any damage, that'd be fine. Might be a bit boring though. :f3:

I'd have to get in on the action though so I could film you, but I'll see.

And I know, I was just playing. <3

[BlueAnus]

you might want to add somewhere that bombs exploding is a weapon attack.

That means that those 30 Wdef pots from omega, or any other Wdef pot can help lower the damage you take. I use them because they lower the bomb damage whenever your HP is near the edge, helps make it less risky, and I kinda like the timer on it.

[Itay]

Another question - How much time would be a successful pap solo with your range usually? I'm planning to do a test run with Onyx apples because I cannot KB Pap yet, I'm only 122.

[Mark]

I don't know. I never really timed it, but I do use around 3 and a half Warrior Elixirs by the time Pap dies. So maybe 25 miinutes?

[FantaTwist]

Nice guide, I did pretty much the same too.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/858/maple0640gz0.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/5839/maple0011111xp1.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7452/maple0681cu5.jpg

I'd pretty much say you have to be cautious in the enemys attacks and don't take one eye of his movements.

[SoulQuincy]

if green is the dangerzone which way do u run
run towards pap o.o or far away from the green zone to the right side

[Mark]

Common sense would say run away from Pap to the right since Bombs can summon on the left in front of you as well. :f3:

[lonesoldier1]

How much dmg does touching pap give you? I plan to solo him soon, and i have 3.5k hp.

[Itay]

How much dmg does touching pap give you? I plan to solo him soon, and i have 3.5k hp.

Pap does 3.2k max touch, while the bottom bombs can go over 4k.

[lonesoldier1]

My first attempt was a failure. I got raped at the second body while taking 40 minutes to take down the 1st body (keep in mind that i have a REALLY SHITTY damage) :(

[Sn1perJohnE]

My first attempt was a failure. I got raped at the second body while taking 40 minutes to take down the 1st body (keep in mind that i have a REALLY SHITTY damage) :(

40 mins for some reason, to me, sounds rather quick, even with bad damage.

[Hotshot]

Very nice guide. I think I might try soloing him again sometime, when I feel like wasting a few million on potions. :P

Oh wait, second form will rape me until I get some puppet lol. Could I manage it with 6 points?

[lonesoldier1]

40 mins for some reason, to me, sounds rather quick, even with bad damage.

I'm lvl 130? With a 1650-2600 range. Pretty shitty to me. I got 10 SE and 10 SoA tho.

[Itay]

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6812/maple2774si8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6812/maple2774si8.727111ac0d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=509&i=maple2774si8.jpg)

[Mark]

May I ask why you're so close to Pap?

I noticed you almost maxed bombs, but still doesn't explain why you're so close to him. Unless you're unable to pin him yet?

[Itay]

May I ask why you're so close to Pap?

I noticed you almost maxed bombs, but still doesn't explain why you're so close to him. Unless you're unable to pin him yet?

Nope, I'm not able to pin him at all. I got stunned twice a row and a bomb boomed on me :[

[Itay]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Right when the bombs get maxed, I got stunned and bombed :( AGAIN. Bad luck. I'm sure I can do it..

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4152/maple2964lo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4152/maple2964lo5.264ca8121e.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=374&i=maple2964lo5.jpg)

[Itay]

I DID IT. SOLOED PAP.

time: 41 minutes

level: 125

potions used: 6 chews, 111 sorcerer elixers, 247 barbarian elixers, 315 pops.

attempt #: 4

skills: 13 se, 1 mastery rest doesnt matter

hp: 3.4k

range with chew: around ~3600

% of kb: around 1% kb >.> doesnt help at all relyed on puppet all the time

drops: none, duh

couldnt have done it without Puppet

I think I'm the first one on this forum that soloed pap without KB and couldnt survive a bomb hit.

I'm so happy :)

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/8351/maple3093ny2.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4867/maple3096cn4.jpg

Edit: sorry for double post >.<

[Mark]

Congrats. It sure is a nice accomplishment.

Though, there were plenty of Archers to solo Pap pre-4th job (myself included) and that was when KBing Pap was more of a dream.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Unholy_Abyssion/Maple0217-1.jpg

[Beaner]

i soloed pap a few time before 4th job, no kb there

[Itay]

i soloed pap a few time before 4th job, no kb there

Oh I see, My thoughts were abit too high then :P

A very usefull tip that Opeth should add in the first post - Keep your sound on (Without the music, only sound) It's VERY helpfull.

[LaLaaLove]

Nice guide Mark, I'll definitely be using this when I eventually level up... twenty more times. :f4:

[Aids]

Grats Itay on your solo! :D
I remember the first time I soloed....worth it :)

[Silver_ice]

wow u soloed with onyx apples.. and how the hell did bombs miss u?> thats really lucky for a class with no movement skill.

[Mark]

Nice guide Mark, I'll definitely be using this when I eventually level up... twenty more times. :f4:

WTF? I haven't seen you in forever. You moved to Windia? :f1:

[azngangster2002]

Here are some tips:
-Use ciders from Showa to help knockback- 20att pot for 3min for 1k meso
-Wear HP gear - they're cheap and fun to make
-Kill the bombs that spawn on the ground asap if you can survive a 3.9k explosion - If they buff up, they can do upwards of 4.9k
-Always keep pap puppetized
-Don't jump
-Stay as far away from pap as possible

[Mark]

Here are some tips:
-Use ciders from Showa to help knockback- 20att pot for 3min for 1k meso
-Wear HP gear - they're cheap and fun to make
-Kill the bombs that spawn on the ground asap if you can survive a 3.9k explosion cause if they buff up, they can do upwards of 4.9k
-Always keep pap puppetized
-Don't jump
-Stay as far away from pap as possible

Bold points I've already discussed in the first post.

As for Ciders: they don't stack. Not everyone has a ton of room for them.

HP Gear: I've tried this before. Bomb explosion is a weapon attack, so even if you were to scroll enough HP to survive a bomb, you'd lose a lot of DEF and damage in the process.

Keeping Pap Puppetized: This is only good if bombs are maxed. Otherwise he's going to run you down with his bomb shields.

[azngangster2002]

You weren't wearing enough HP gear. :f3:

Just let a friend borrow my 1000 HP gear and 3 apples to attempt his first pap solo at 132 unwashed last night. He survived. Being decked out in that gear, there was no choice but for him to use apple in order to knock it back. Seriously, make HP gear. It's cheap fun and readys you for Horntail.

[Itay]

wow u soloed with onyx apples.. and how the hell did bombs miss u?> thats really lucky for a class with no movement skill.


You mean without right? And yeah it's not called luck, aslong as you keep distance from pap with Puppet the bombs dont spawn close to you and you can strafe them up.

[Phil]

I DID IT. SOLOED PAP.

time: 41 minutes

level: 125

...

About time too Itay.

[LaLaaLove]

WTF? I haven't seen you in forever. You moved to Windia? :f1:

Yupp, I immigrated in late April/early July. A lot of old friends restarted in Windia, and one immigrated. Then two RL friends started playing the server, so I went too. I already had a character on there, and loved the community. :redface:

A friend and I have been planning to do a Pap duo when I get to 12x, any tips? He's a lvl 12x Night Lord. Also, would duoing or soloing be easier?

[Mark]

Hmm...well, I already explained as much as I know about fighting Pap without being able to KB. All I can really say is to stay as far away from him at all times. If you want to invest some money into Onyx Apples, that would help you guys a lot.

[LaLaaLove]

Looks like I should have read the bomb part more carefully: (Note the purple text) :f3:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6885/pap3in9.png

In other news, I also survived my first Pap run ever today. :glitter:

[EDIT: The SS isn't working... another fail in my part. :f4:]

[Mark]

Aww... Doesn't seem like you had a DK, you were standing too close. :[

People learn from their mistakes and will eventually succeed. :f2:

[butterfλi]

I think you should include that you should pap with the audio on. In tight situations people might not notice what they see since all the pap skills look kinda the same when you're thinking on your feet but you can still hear things. (I personally don't even notice what spell its about to cast except for 1/1 since its so different from the rest).

Pap makes two distinct "whirl"-whistle-like sound. One means it's about to dispel/stun and one means it's gonna summon bombs. For magicians, they just need to listen for the dispel sound. Dispel and stun makes the same whistle but bomb summon is completely different.

[LaLaaLove]

I decided to go in myself today, just to get the hang of the map and his summoning patterns. Surprisedly, I got this far before running out of pots (I wasn't planning to kill it, so I only brought ~150 for fun):

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9559/paphpxu8.png

After that point, he was healing almost as much as I was doing to him, and the HP bar stopped moving down. Maybe it even went up. xD

I forgot to turn off my sounds, I definitely did hear different sounds when using skills though. I'll try to remember to shut off the music next time I go.

How close can I get to him when he hides without risking death? I was staying kinda far back, so my Puppet got owned with Touch damage more than anything.

[Mark]

When Pap hides you can stand right on top of him. Just be sure to move as soon as he gets up. But he more often then not dispels / summons bombs as soon as he gets up.

[cooldog67]

Pap solo. took ~50mins to get to 2nd body

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right i dont have enough post count yet>.<

well, i got to 2nd body, 2nd body is almost impossible for me cause i forgot to cast SE before i started shooting at it.so i did very little damage, then i just got pinned.i woulda survived if i had a silver mane.

[Mark]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7706/maple0012ec1.jpg
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Image Shack is picky about it's URLs. Good attempt though. :f4:

I'd recommend re-casting buffs right before the first body died.

[cooldog67]

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7706/maple0012ec1.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/8580/maple0013kx0.jpg
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Image Shack is picky about it's URLs. Good attempt though. :f4:

I'd recommend re-casting buffs right before the first body died.
yea the other thing was that puppet jsut didnt give me enough time to do what i needed to do before it died.i think i wanna be able to KB 2nd body before it gets easier.

[summer]

how brave of you for not appling ron =b

[Allen]

i solo'd at 127, 20mins. xD but i don't think i count, i have enough hp for bombs. 2 apples used.

[cooldog67]

i solo'd at 127, 20mins. xD but i don't think i count, i have enough hp for bombs. 2 apples used.


arent you crazily washed with ubber pro gear? why dont you just 12 atk pot it o.0


how brave of you for not appling ron =b

lol i died, your turn please :f3:

[Allen]

At that level, it doesn't really matter what kind of gear you got. without bowexpert, you can't constant KB pap. =( Nah, I'm not that well equipped, who told you that? F6