Sony under siege by Anonymous [Archive]

Hanabira.Kage

2011-04-07, 06:36 AM

Infamous hacking group “Anonymous” has successfully infiltrated several Sony websites including Sony.com and PlayStation.com. The group has also warned that they plan to attack the PlayStation Network and PlayStation Store next.

Anonymous identified Sony as ‘abusing’ the judicial system, and participating in the suppression of information. This is due to a Sony lawsuit against PS3 jailbreaker George “GeoHot” Hotz, who made the hack publicly available. Sony also removed of the ability to install Linux on the PS3. The main thrust of the pro-hacker argument is that if you've paid for something, you should be allowed to do whatever you like with it.

Anonymous came into public notice especially during the Wikileaks situation, targeting companies that took down their support for the Wikileaks site.

These recent troubles only add on to Sony’s worries.

Jack Tretton, president of Sony Computer Entertainment America told Bloomberg that the PlayStation Portable’s successor, dubbed the NGP, may be delayed due to the Japan quake. This is not good for Sony, because it potentially has nothing to match Nintendo’s 3DS through the next Christmas season.

(Source: Yahoo! News.)

I honestly don't know why Anonymous even bothers; no one's going to thank them for this; last I heard, the US PSN's near inaccessible due to Anonymous' DoS attack. Needless to say, PSP and PS3 players aren't happy at all.

If they hack into the PSN and make everything FoC, or distribute certain DLC for free (like God Eater Burst's DLC; it was made pre-order exclusive in the US apart from 6 codes or so given out on Facebook), I'm sure all those players wouldn't mind rooting for them. As it stands, Anonymous members are just making themselves look more like cyber-terrorists than cyber-vigilantes. As far as I'm concerned, they really need to be much more concerned about their own image or they will be despised even by the people they're fighting for.

In case anyone thinks otherwise, no I do not have anything against Anonymous nor am I against their actions. They do have a right to do whatever the hell they think is right, but they do have to keep in mind that there is a line they should never cross; while fighting for the people, do not ever harm the people.

No, I do not condone their actions either. Just because they can (or are free) to do something doesn't mean that they should do it. There's a difference between rights and responsibilities.

Shidoshi

2011-04-07, 06:44 AM

Hanabira.Kage

2011-04-07, 06:59 AM

IMO, they don't need to care that much about their own image. They are already anonymous so they are not targettable and they don't get benefits from popularity.
It's one of their advantages, they can fight for what they want without fear of backlash or need of approval (except of their own members).

Even so, as it stands "Anonymous" as a whole currently has a very bad reputation. Even if there is no backlash, there will be hatred targeted at the group in its entirety.

Satellite

2011-04-07, 08:06 AM

I didn't see anything different at either sony.com or playstation.com

wobbufet

2011-04-07, 08:11 AM

Even so, as it stands "Anonymous" as a whole currently has a very bad reputation. Even if there is no backlash, there will be hatred targeted at the group in its entirety.

And this had been any different when? Anonymous has always done what they feel is right and they've always been hated by many.

Kalovale

2011-04-07, 08:37 AM

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wikileaks.png

Yeah, since when have Anonymous been doing good deeds? Once in a while their interest compass converges with the society's moral compass (discovering the identity of the cat torturer, I believe) but that would be insufficient to assume that they are in the slightest interested in what people think of them.
In fact, no matter what incident involving Anonymous, it is easy to see the mentality behind their actions, they just feel like f'ucking around with it.

CrazyNomad

2011-04-07, 08:41 AM

http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=797

OpSony Update, to all
Greetings, Sony Customers And PS3 Users. We are Anonymous.

During the last few days, Anonymous has been targeting Sony for their outrageous treatment of not only PS3 users and jailbreakers, but also of the general public. Their propaganda regarding jailbreaking implies that it encourages piracy and thereby makes people lose their jobs, whereas jailbreaking actually just means you are making YOUR device do what it should do. Imagine if Microsoft forced you to use Internet Explorer instead of Firefox or Chrome. Imagine if they denied users from using any other web browser than their own. Many people would obviously be pissed... but then, why aren't you pissed at Sony?

The fact that their litigation demanded information on everyone who had viewed the material, was completely unacceptable. This is a threat not only to the gaming community, but to freedom of information in general. The fact that the privacy of individuals can be violated, simply for accessing information, and legal action can be taken for doing something with something you own, are steps far beyond the line. Anonymous decided it could not allow this to stand. If jailbreaking a phone for use of legal (unsigned) apps is found legal, why would this be any different for the Geohot case, seeing as Geohot explicitly states he does not support piracy?

Anonymous is not attacking the PSN at this time. Sony's official position is that the PSN is undergoing maintenance. We realize that targeting the PSN is not a good idea. We have therefore temporarily suspended our action, until a method is found that will not severely impact Sony customers.

Anonymous is on your side, standing up for your rights. We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony. This attack is aimed solely at Sony, and we will try our best to not affect the gamers, as this would defeat the purpose of our actions. If we did inconvenience users, please know that this was not our goal.
This operation is a response to Sony's attempt to deprive their customers of products they bought and therefore own, wholly and completely. Anonymous will not attempt to fight this by following the exact same course of action. We have plenty of tricks up our sleeves.

As a last point, we would like to point out that different operations are "run" by different people. Those who are involved in the organisation of OpSony, are not necessarily those involved in that of SonyRecon. Anonymous Operations are generally independent efforts, and it would be a mistake to assume that the same individuals are responsible for every action taken. Anonymous is comprised of people with diverse points of view, of which not all coincide with one another.

That being said, our campaign against Sony and others that would trample on the idea of free information will continue, until we are satisfied with the outcome.

We are Anonymous,
We are legion,
We never forgive,
We never forget,
Expect us.

Hanabira.Kage

2011-04-07, 09:18 AM

Yeah, since when have Anonymous been doing good deeds? Once in a while their interest compass converges with the society's moral compass (discovering the identity of the cat torturer, I believe) but that would be insufficient to assume that they are in the slightest interested in what people think of them.
In fact, no matter what incident involving Anonymous, it is easy to see the mentality behind their actions, they just feel like f'ucking around with it.

Look at CrazyNomad's post. Well, though I really have to say this sounds kinda propaganda-ish. I mean like, duh who would say "HAHAHA WE DON'T GIVE A FLYING pineapple WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU" if they wish to garner public support? Perhaps I'm reading too much into it. In any case, I do think Anonymous can be trusted on their claim of "We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony". In any case, if they will not harm Sony customers in their endeavours, then I shall not delve any further into this matter.

Still, there are some flaws in their argument:

[Sony's] propaganda regarding jailbreaking implies that it encourages piracy and thereby makes people lose their jobs, whereas jailbreaking actually just means you are making YOUR device do what it should do.

Think about it. Installing homebrew allows the player to just download games off of the web and play them. Sounds good, right? Perhaps it is. However, what about the companies who invested so much time, effort and money just to design and develop (and manufacture) those games? Surely they should earn some profit or at the very least break even. However, if everyone downloads a ripped version off of the internet and getting to play the game for free, that company is going to make a huge loss. Sony itself will lose out too, since Sony will also stand to profit from UMD purchases. Even if it is not Anonymous' intention, it is extremely likely that someone somewhere will exploit the custom firmware so as to play these ripped games. The world is not so simple; everything comes at a price. Nothing is completely free. If Sony decides to give in, I can guarantee that all those companies will eventually go bankrupt.

If Anonymous can guarantee that piracy will definitely not occur as a result of this, then I would have nothing more to say.

KhainiWest

2011-04-07, 09:27 AM

Fuckin with a corporation like sony will have very bad backlash.

Hanabira.Kage

2011-04-07, 09:38 AM

Fuckin with a corporation like sony will have very bad backlash.

Well, it will have a very negative impact on the reputation of the group as a whole, but there will be no repercussions to the individual members. Well, until they get tracked down. But that's a different story altogether.

Fiel

2011-04-07, 09:46 AM

They are targetable. Several members of Anonymous have been arrested for their actions against Paypal and VISA.

KhainiWest

2011-04-07, 09:48 AM

Well, it will have a very negative impact on the reputation of the group as a whole, but there will be no repercussions to the individual members. Well, until they get tracked down. But that's a different story altogether.

I strongly believe that sony has the resources not too only protect themselves but retaliate 10x worse. Just my opinion though.

Shidoshi

2011-04-07, 09:50 AM

They are targetable. Several members of Anonymous have been arrested for their actions against Paypal and VISA.
As much as they are/aren't targetable, it doesn't change that they are leaving a message. All rebellion, supressed or not, has its effects on the minds of people.

Kalovale

2011-04-07, 09:51 AM

Look at CrazyNomad's post. Well, though I really have to say this sounds kinda propaganda-ish. I mean like, duh who would say "HAHAHA WE DON'T GIVE A FLYING pineapple WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU" if they wish to garner public support? Perhaps I'm reading too much into it. In any case, I do think Anonymous can be trusted on their claim of "We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony". In any case, if they will not harm Sony customers in their endeavours, then I shall not delve any further into this matter.

Wanting good for the public is not the same as bullpomegranateting to get a backbone.

Sony is acting terribly like the DRM bunch, unable to transform to the digital world and thus insisting that everyone should/must stay physical. They seemed to have had no problems at all switching from CD to DVD to Blueray discs (because it wasn't really any change in technology at all), but once we hit the point where softwares are just what they are, entirely digital, they get stuck.

Of course, no one is under the obligation to play Sony's consoles at all, it is a pleasure we pay for at a price. But from a radical bystandaer point of view, instead of thinking of solutions, Sony et al. are simply biting at whatever hands trying to steal food from them, inadvertently holding back the advances of information technology.
Not that I suggest that it is wrong of Sony to be doing so, they have to feed their wives and kids too, who also happen to play their consoles. It is merely a pity.

案山子

2011-04-07, 09:52 AM

Anonymous is like a mafia: The higher-ups may be intelligent, but the grunts are usually sloppy.
A sloppy grunt gets mopped up.

xAyakoCx

2011-04-07, 09:57 AM

I hope they dont mess with my Sony Vegas because if they do, I'll have to have my laptop back to factory settings.
Note to self: Dont go on the sony and PS sites.

Erebus

2011-04-07, 10:22 AM

So basically went from an edgy rebellious group wanting openness in cooperate/government policies to terrorist complaining they can't "mod" the shirt off Laura Croft...

As well nearly every action sony has taken is for a security measure, unless I see records of them selling the info off, I could care less.

Devil

2011-04-07, 10:44 AM

Hanabira.Kage

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Sarah

2011-04-07, 11:05 AM

As much as they are/aren't targetable, it doesn't change that they are leaving a message. All rebellion, supressed or not, has its effects on the minds of people.

The only impact is on the "minds" of sheep. Unfortunately, those sheep make up a large portion of the internet which is why Anonymous exists in the first place.

And yeah, I agree with Dustin. Sony has big money behind them, and law. If GeoHotz had a case the only thing Anonymous is doing is harming it. Sony can easily use this to show why exactly limitations need to be imposed; this sense of entitlement from the children of the internet needs to be stomped on.

All action like this encourages is heavy-handed retaliation -- more rules. They'll keep pushing until they fuck with the wrong person or peoples and get slammed, be it personally, publicly or internationally. The more enemies they make the easier it becomes for this to get ugly. The support of a hundred thousand 8 year olds or 22 year old manchildren won't mean shit against the corporations and governments of the world.

KhainiWest

2011-04-07, 11:50 AM

The only impact is on the "minds" of sheep. Unfortunately, those sheep make up a large portion of the internet which is why Anonymous exists in the first place.

And yeah, I agree with Dustin. Sony has big money behind them, and law. If GeoHotz had a case the only thing Anonymous is doing is harming it. Sony can easily use this to show why exactly limitations need to be imposed; this sense of entitlement from the children of the internet needs to be stomped on.

All action like this encourages is heavy-handed retaliation -- more rules. They'll keep pushing until they fuck with the wrong person or peoples and get slammed, be it personally, publicly or internationally. The more enemies they make the easier it becomes for this to get ugly. The support of a hundred thousand 8 year olds or 22 year old manchildren won't mean shit against the corporations and governments of the world.

To be honest, though it won't apply to you in this case cus you're fortunately in canada, it'll just support the bill's legislation have been trying to pass to give the government the power of internet usage, much like china.

Corn

2011-04-07, 11:53 AM

Thought you were referring to a SPer for a moment.

Sorry Anonymous, I side with Sony this time.

KajitiSouls

2011-04-07, 01:04 PM

I have the feeling that the aura around this whole situation is full of elitism and "because we can" attitude. Personally, I find that the issues being raised do a good thing for the law and judicial system in an increasingly integrated environment. But better effort and money can be spent by Anonymous doing things that aren't counterproductive, especially if said counterproductivity actually attains the ire of the people that you're siding with.

Bad artsy post

Or you could filter out the tags if you find them to be so annoying.

CrazyNomad

2011-04-07, 02:48 PM

microsoft don't sue any hacker, and still sell shitloads of xbox and still earn profit with multiplayer.

letting people jailbreak their system, will sell more ps3, and instead of making the psn free, make it P2P, job done.

i don't see sony sueing someone for throwing their ps3 into the wall, but when it get to their so called "most-security-system-ever-made-that-will-never-be-hacked", they get all butthurt and start hunting people like they are animals.

look what graf_chokolo said after being arrested in germany:

http://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=38904.0

“The SONY’s laywer asked me why I’m doing what I’m doing, because of my hatred for SONY? He cannot understand why I’m doing it, because he is paid for what he does. I’m not. I don’t hold a grudge against SONY even now Hatred clouds your mind, keeps you from more important things. I have a better use for my mind and knowledge.

“So, SONY you failed again, you took my equipment but my mind is still free and you canot (sic) control it. You failed again. They are just tools, I can get new ones and will continue my HV reversing and bringing back PS3 Linux which you took from us. If you want me to stop then you should just kill me because I cannot live without programming, HV and Linux kernel hacking You know who am I and where I live, so come and get me!!!”

Sony will never stop them, ad now that sony messed with hackers, they will never leave sony alone.

Why hackers don't bother with xbox and the live at all? coz microsoft dont sue every hacker that release a new unlock for the xbox.

Erebus

2011-04-07, 02:58 PM

microsoft don't sue any hacker, and still sell pomegranateloads of xbox and still earn profit with multiplayer.

letting people jailbreak their system, will sell more ps3, and instead of making the psn free, make it P2P, job done.

i don't see sony sueing someone for throwing their ps3 into the wall, but when it get to their so called "most-security-system-ever-made-that-will-never-be-hacked", they get all butthurt and start hunting people like they are animals.

look what graf_chokolo said after being arrested in germany:

http://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=38904.0

Sony will never stop them, ad now that sony messed with hackers, they will never leave sony alone.

Why hackers don't bother with xbox and the live at all? coz microsoft dont sue every hacker that release a new unlock for the xbox.

So basically might makes right?

Also Microsoft (http://www.google.com/search?q=microsoft+sues+hackers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) isn't unknown to court cases.

Zelkova

2011-04-07, 03:00 PM

This is somewhat oldish news. The reason why the sites are available now is because the first attack went down on monday. A second attack started yesterday.

Seanny

2011-04-07, 03:25 PM

Hey Anonymous, just put together and fund consoles and devices that provides full freedom over their own devices. Kill them with competition if it bothers you guys so much.

if the people really want freedom that much: they'll bite.

Who am I kidding, they'll never be THAT organized and invested into helping us.

I do agree that there's a bit too much privacy invasion going on, however. No one protests anything anymore... cept for presidents >_>

Milelke

2011-04-07, 05:09 PM

Some people think that reputation doesn't matter, but it does.
Anonymous is teeter-tottering between "Internet Activists" & "Internet Terrorists"
If they make a bad name for the "freedom" of the Internet, they'll just fuel support for internet control laws. I understand their viewpoint, but they need to think a bit more globally before they act. Their actions can have disastrous effects. I'm not saying we should sit around and tolerate injustice, but there are right and wrong ways to protest something.

Sony, as I see it, has full right to "hunt down" the people who are hacking them.

Hanabira.Kage

2011-04-08, 06:37 AM

KhainiWest

2011-04-08, 08:04 AM

This.

Besides, I don't think users are allowed to (by law) modify a copyright-protected/patented system in any way.

Sony is only enforcing the law. It's like they are shanking you for not letting them steal from the store you own. That's why they will lose this time, they know they aren't big enough to attack the actual government, but they think they are big enough to attack a corporation. The law is behind sony, and it will be enforced.

Secun

2011-04-08, 10:12 PM

This.

Besides, I don't think users are allowed to (by law) modify a copyright-protected/patented system in any way.

I can somewhat agree with Anon, and though I don't condone outright piracy, I still feel that if you buy a console you shouldn't be prosecuted just because you mod it, especially as much as they're charging for them.

Zelkova

2011-04-08, 10:22 PM

Want to know whats funny? (And not really related)

Some of the United States government branches have bought many many many PS3's back when you could still use OtherOS and connected them together and use it like a supercomputer.

http://performancetrap.org/2010/01/28/ps3-supercomputer/

TheThunderBandit

2011-04-13, 11:52 AM

Alley

2011-04-13, 09:02 PM

Anonymous is starting to remind me of something.... what is it....... OH YEA
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQVGrk8babh9MzZhdOR3SGCihXNkL0BM _BnehVSsmcPry9rxdSH

I understand where they are coming from but if Sony did not stop these mods then people would use them for pirating. Pirating would put good game developing company's out of business and no gamer wants that.

Modding =/= pirating. When someone buys a chocolate bar, the chocolate and the wrapper and the contents inside the wrapper is theirs. I totally agree with what Anonymous is doing. Sony needs to stop being butthurt about their code.

Sarah

2011-04-13, 09:17 PM

Modding =/= pirating. When someone buys a chocolate bar, the chocolate and the wrapper and the contents inside the wrapper is theirs. I totally agree with what Anonymous is doing. Sony needs to stop being butthurt about their code.

Except you're wrong and that's not even close to a valid comparison. This mod allowed people to steal directly from the PSN and play pirated games on their PS3. This mod opened up the floodgates for everyone in the world to steal from Sony and they are absolutely not wrong for seeking compensation from the person who intentionally, knowingly burst the dam.

Alley

2011-04-13, 09:49 PM

Except you're wrong and that's not even close to a valid comparison. This mod allowed people to steal directly from the PSN and play pirated games on their PS3. This mod opened up the floodgates for everyone in the world to steal from Sony and they are absolutely not wrong for seeking compensation from the person who intentionally, knowingly burst the dam.

Sure it gives them the capability to get another mod that has nothing to do with the original jailbreaking of the PS3, but it doesn't give them the tools to pirate games and DLC.

Sarah

2011-04-13, 09:53 PM

Sure it gives them the capability to get another mod that has nothing to do with the original jailbreaking of the PS3, but it doesn't give them the tools to pirate games and DLC.

So if I pick a lock and then show everyone the door is open I'm not in any way accountable for what happens afterward? Good to know.

Alley

2011-04-13, 11:44 PM

So if I pick a lock and then show everyone the door is open I'm not in any way accountable for what happens afterward? Good to know.

You're saying that there is only one application for a jailbreak. Pirating is but one of thousands of applications that the PS3 has locked away inside.

Zelkova

2011-04-13, 11:48 PM

While you all are fighting over all of this, the case has been settled and is over with.

In other news,

Anonymous is planning a sit in in sony style stores on the 16th.

Graf_Chokolo, a dev behind installing OtherOS back onto the PS3 (OtherOS was removed from the PS3 last April 1'st), had his house raided for a second time today. Police seized his PS3 and other hacking equipment for a second time.

Alley

2011-04-13, 11:58 PM

Erebus

2011-04-14, 08:49 AM

How is that even legal? Didn't the U.S courts legalize jailbreaking of devices? Or was that just Apple products?

Pretty much just phones. This is assuming it's only going to be used for downloading non-pre-approved applications, it's still illegal to pirate.

The upshot is that now anyone can jailbreak or otherwise unlock any cell phone without fear of legal penalties, whether you want to install unsupported applications or switch to another cellular carrier. Cell phone companies are of course still free to make it difficult for you to do this — and your warranty will probably still be voided if you do — but at least you won’t be fined or imprisoned if you jailbreak a handset.

In addition to the jailbreaking exemption, the FCC announced a few other rules that have less sweeping applicability but are still significant:

• Professors, students and documentary filmmakers are now allowed, for “noncommercial” purposes, to break the copy protection measures on DVDs to be used in classroom or other not-for-profit environments. This doesn’t quite go so far as to grant you and me the right to copy a DVD so we can watch it in two rooms of the house, but it’s now only one step away.

• As was the topic in the GE ruling I wrote about, the FCC allows computer owners to bypass dongles (hardware devices used in conjunction with software to guarantee the correct owner is behind the keyboard) if they are no longer in operation and can’t be replaced. Dongles are rarities in consumer technology products now, but industrial users are probably thrilled about this, as many go missing and are now impossible to obtain.

• Finally, people are now free to circumvent protection measures on video games — but, strangely, only to investigate and correct security flaws in those games. (Another oddity: Other computer software is not part of this ruling, just video games.)

Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_wguy/ytech_wguy_tc3236)

Be aware it's not illegal for companies to act. Apparently the droid does something like void the warranty of itself during software updates if the phones is jailbroken.

I don't think sony cares about their games being modded, problem is you can't open a game to "modding" without it also opening it to piracy and nearly every reason the Anons give for doing this is something that can be used against pirating and FOR sony's case.

Zelkova

2011-04-15, 02:26 PM

http://i.imgur.com/4XqXn.jpg

Shidoshi

2011-04-15, 02:33 PM

http://i.imgur.com/4XqXn.jpg

http://v.cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/cad-20110209-69cc4.jpg

KhainiWest

2011-04-21, 12:15 PM

Look's like they went through with it? (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/21/latest-update-on-psn-outage/)

street

2011-04-21, 12:50 PM

Look's like they went through with it? (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/21/latest-update-on-psn-outage/)

i finally got internet after waiting 2 weeks in my new apt. Then this happen -_- 24 hours and i cant play any of my games online!

Satellite

2011-04-21, 01:03 PM

Where can I contact these guys?

I have a next target for them. lolnexon

KhainiWest

2011-04-21, 01:12 PM

Where can I contact these guys?

I have a next target for them. lolnexon

That's assuming they survive the onslaught of real lawyers, where you have to pay a fine just to be in the same room as them.

Twilight

2011-04-27, 02:49 AM

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/?a_id=2185

We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have:
Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services
Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened
Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by re-building our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information.
We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable.

Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.

For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well.

To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it:

U.S. residents are entitled under U.S. law to one free credit report annually from each of the three major credit bureaus. To order your free credit report, visit www.annualcreditreport.com or call toll-free (877) 322-8228.

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=2356

If an account holder provided credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, it is possible that the credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may also have been obtained.

Probably over reported on your local news, surprised nobody has mentioned it on here yet.

street

2011-04-27, 03:15 AM

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/?a_id=2185

http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=2356

Probably over reported on your local news, surprised nobody has mentioned it on here yet.

gaming section has it.

Satellite

2011-04-27, 12:45 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/apr/27/playstation-network-hack-sony

Anon doesn't take credit? Or maybe they are just covering theirselves. Either way, I didn't know that this is even possible. All I can say is, Facebookers, prepare for sh!tstorm.

Homerowed

2011-04-27, 12:49 PM

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/4/25/

The best one.

Zelkova

2011-04-27, 10:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwn4R_GexLM

Takebacker

2011-04-27, 11:47 PM

XFD at that commercial. If they actually air that i will laugh so hard. They actually managed to use it in their f'ucking slogan. GG sony.

Satellite

2011-05-04, 11:58 PM

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/04/sonys-response-to-the-u-s-house-of-representatives/

We discovered that the intruders had planted a file on one of our Sony Online Entertainment servers named “Anonymous” with the words “We are Legion.”

Seeing how anonymous made a statement about them being innocent, it could well be that it was indeed ran by only few members without the support of the whole organization.

ShinkuDragon

2011-05-05, 12:12 AM

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/04/sonys-response-to-the-u-s-house-of-representatives/

Seeing how anonymous made a statement about them being innocent, it could well be that it was indeed ran by only few members without the support of the whole organization.

the benefits of being anonymous, are also disadvantages, for all we know, it could be them, or someone else using them as a mask (lolirony)

Locked

2011-05-05, 12:21 AM

While everyone is in despair and QQing over PSN, I'm sitting here impressed at how professional the hacking is.

ShinkuDragon

2011-05-05, 12:28 AM

While everyone is in despair and QQing over PSN, I'm sitting here impressed at how professional the hacking is.

so am i actually, i am here wondering... how o.O

Locked

2011-05-05, 12:30 AM

so am i actually, i am here wondering... how o.O

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5142/5686963661_15ba67f1d0_b.jpg

Number 7 and 8.
Not only have they stolen million of sentimental information of users, but they did it without being caught. I'm on the same boat as you.

Takebacker

2011-05-05, 12:33 AM

Inb4 they stole the credit card info only to not bother stealing anything.

Trollfaec.jpg indeed anon.

MuscleWizard

2011-05-05, 08:56 AM

Alloy

2011-05-05, 08:58 AM

Inb4 they stole the credit card info only to not bother stealing anything.

Trollfaec.jpg indeed anon.

Or just doing so sloooowly, just so there's no way to track it down.

Shidoshi

2011-05-05, 09:38 AM

While I am upset over the hacking, the one thing that does bother me is how companies like Sony lock users out of the full potential of the hardware they purchase.
I don't think that Sony, or anyone for that matter, should have the right to tell people what they can and can't do with something that they purchase.
I feel the same way about apple locking out their iPods / iPads.

It was made to protect users from further damage of the hackings, also it's the same as with MapleStory, games relying on the internet are bound to have downtimes.

Dual

2011-05-05, 10:41 AM

It was made to protect users from further damage of the hackings, also it's the same as with MapleStory, games relying on the internet are bound to have downtimes.

I believe he was talking about the jailbreaking thing, since you technically own it, and they are telling you how you are allowed to use it. Usually it would just void warranties, instead of being outright illegal.

Kunagisa

2011-05-05, 10:53 AM

I believe he was talking about the jailbreaking thing, since you technically own it, and they are telling you how you are allowed to use it. Usually it would just void warranties, instead of being outright illegal.

Technically you're "borrowing it for an indefinite amount of time" from Sony. At least, that's what they claim, from what I've read.

KhainiWest

2011-05-05, 11:50 AM

Technically you're "borrowing it for an indefinite amount of time" from Sony. At least, that's what they claim, from what I've read.

I'm not sure how accurate that would be because you get hit with sales tax on PS3, if you're "renting" it's a completely different tax rate. I don't know how they legally get away with that lol. Though it's different state from state.

Ryukiroku

2011-05-05, 03:02 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312333/sony-knew-psn-had-no-firewall-installed-expert

Can't really say how credible this is but an interesting turn of events.

Sarah

2011-05-05, 03:11 PM

This situation requires the ace work of the Navy SEALs

FenixR

2011-05-05, 03:14 PM

Sarah

2011-05-05, 03:21 PM

CIA is the next agency to involve in all this. /trolling

Im just saying what a great royal screwup by sony. It will be Years and Mass Head chopping before sony will be seen as a good company again, specially with those stupid terms of agreement they have been coming up with recently.

Doubt it. General public will hold the perpetrators at fault, not Sony, even if they were guilty of not keeping the latest protection. Sony isn't the bad guy here, they're a victim just like everyone effected, and that's how it will come across in history. Which is absolutely right, because everything they've done, they've had the right to do. They needed to protect their business. It's the fault of all of the spoiled, entitled little shits of the world that anything bad has happened.

I won't stop supporting Sony. We had a discussion about this in my business class a few days ago too and the general consensus was that most people won't write Sony off either. Things will return to normal for them as soon as the PSN is relaunched.

FenixR

2011-05-05, 03:37 PM

I still blame sony a little since its their job to secure the info of every single one of their clients.

But its mostly like 30% sony and 70% the douche bag who hacked the info when assigning blame FOR ME at least. They aren't completely innocent on this matter but neither are the guilty party in this.

Shidoshi

2011-05-05, 03:40 PM

EarthAdept2

2011-05-06, 01:37 AM

A group of hackers says it is planning another wave of cyberattacks against Sony in retaliation for its handling of the PlayStation Network breach.

An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers told CNET today that a third major attack is planned this weekend against Sony's Web site. The people involved plan to publicize all or some of the information they are able to copy from Sony's servers, which could include customer names, credit card numbers, and addresses, according to the source. The hackers claim they currently have access to some of Sony's servers.

Should the planned attack succeed, it would be the latest blow in a series of devastating security breaches of Sony's servers over the past month. The failure of Sony's server security has ignited investigations by the FBI, the Department of Justice, Congress, and the New York State Attorney General, a well as data security and privacy authorities in the U.K., Canada, and Taiwan.

Several weeks ago the hacker group known as Anonymous targeted several Sony Web sites, including Sony.com and SonyStyle.com, with a distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack in retaliation for what its members saw as Sony's unfair legal action against hacker George Hotz. Two weeks ago Sony's PlayStation Network, along with its Qriocity service and Sony Online, were the target of an attack that exposed the personal information of more than 100 million Sony customers. Sony was forced to shut down PSN, Qriocity, and Sony Online, and is currently working to bring them back online after rebuilding the security of its servers.

Sony says it doesn't know who orchestrated what it's calling a "highly sophisticated, planned" attack, but it has dropped hints that the group Anonymous is involved. Kazuo Hirai, chairman of Sony Computer Entertainment, told a Congressional subcommittee in a letter yesterday that the intruders on its servers planted a file named "Anonymous" containing the statement "We are Legion," part of the group's tagline.

Anonymous issued a statement yesterday denying it was involved in the PSN breach. "While we are a distributed and decentralized group, our 'leadership' does not condone credit card theft," the statement said.

Now it seems the same group of hackers that was able to infiltrate the PSN servers is planning to hit back against Sony.

Sony did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20060227-260.html

Just great. This is seriously getting ridiculous. If Sony actually gets successfully hit again, I think they can kiss any and every little last bit of loyalty to their company good-bye =|

Loose

2011-05-06, 01:50 AM

An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers...
I bet they were chatting in 1337.

But seriously, this is gonna be one interesting weekend if it's true.

Sarah

2011-05-06, 02:07 AM

Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20060227-260.html

Just great. This is seriously getting ridiculous. If Sony actually gets successfully hit again, I think they can kiss any and every little last bit of loyalty to their company good-bye =|

Sony will never lose support because they're at fault for nothing. As a matter of fact, every move Anonymous makes will further strengthen support and sympathy for Sony. Truly ironic that they that fight against the corporate but only serve to help them in the long run. And even if people back away from Sony for a while, it won't last long.

Furthermore, there is no perfect crime and the terrorists will be apprehended eventually. And if they're not directly caught by the authorities, it's likely that some disgruntled person or people with just as much time on their hands as the terrorists will begin to track them down. History has repeatedly proven that you can't fuck with millions and not pay for it eventually.

yo72

2011-05-06, 02:11 AM

Hanabira.Kage

2011-05-06, 02:29 AM

The people involved plan to publicize all or some of the information they are able to copy from Sony's servers, which could include customer names, credit card numbers, and addresses, according to the source.

What.

Anonymous is on your side, standing up for your rights. We are not aiming to attack customers of Sony.

Nice job "standing up" for the people there.

Coming soon:
We are Anti-Anonymous
We are the World
We never forgive
We never forget

p.s. On an unrelated note, it seems that EllinForest.com just got hacked by a group dubbed "Team Animus"...

EarthAdept2

2011-05-06, 03:00 AM

I think Sony would be at a ton of fault for this if they let this happen AGAIN. They're redoing everything with PSN security and amongst all that other stuff only to get hacked AGAIN? By the same people? And with even a possible "warning" and that PSN is currently down, allowing them to further beef up their security? That's just incompetence at its best.

I would have no sympathy if an international corporation falls prey TWICE to the same group of hackers in the span of two weeks. I would just ditch Sony. I haven't been seeing much support for Sony as it is. How can this help the company if this fiasco just jeopardized the entire PSN user base's private information? And again if the next attack is successful.

ChaosCorpse

2011-05-06, 05:17 AM

I don't know why, but this feels as good a time as any.

I used to work for Sony's FPQA.

Yep. Granted I haven't been called back in two years and gave up on going back to them ever and am currently looking for new work. I.E. I have no inside info or explanation for what's happened. Even if I did, I was a tester rather than a coder; they always hated us for breaking their games too >.>

Any which way, despite my aggravation towards them for leading me on that there would be more work for over two years, I still can't see this from the other perspective. While legality may be questionable, what these people are doing is leading to losses, and is just plain unethical. I admit to doing my fair share of pirating in the past, true; but whenever I was able, I would do whatever I could to support the industry.
The way I see it is if it is something you enjoy, legal, and available in your market, you should endeavor to purchase it. Even if it requires waiting until there is a price drop to what you consider reasonable. Why be the poison to something you love? My only counter to this would be games that have invasive software to prevent piracy which cause more harm than good (I.E. Spore).

P.S. I was one pineappleing week off (thanks to college) from being put on Rouge Galaxy's localization.

KhainiWest

2011-05-06, 07:33 AM

"Oh hey guys, I left a stack of 100 dollars bills on the street and someone took it"
"You're not to blame, the one who took it is"

Seriously, leaving your servers unprotected on a major company with loads of important information that many groups of people could be interested is not right. They CAN do it, but they are still to blame for the hacking.

But the thing is there's a standard security you have to have to even deal with credit cards. You don't blame the company for that, you blame the standards that, assuming, are minimum of having at a federal level. So no, it isn't like they just took a bunch of info, put it on a desktop folder saying "CUSTOMER INFO". If the security is inadequate, then they were misinformed as the federal standard is set by, well the government. So you either conced that the security throughout the country is inferior, or that sony is just getting beat on like a dead horse for adhearing to federal standard.

AzureKite

2011-05-06, 07:59 AM

CIA is the next agency to involve in all this. /trolling

Im just saying what a great royal screwup by sony. It will be Years and Mass Head chopping before sony will be seen as a good company again, specially with those stupid terms of agreement they have been coming up with recently.

I agree. I've seen a lot of rage on that. I've also seen a lot of rage regarding how horribly Sony has handled their screw up with the yellow light of death on their launch models. Just look at the forums and you see a few every day. Sending that crap back to Sony to repair for $150 or so is ridiculous. Also, the replacement models don't last long either from what I've seen on many stories on the forums. If you pay that much, you should expect even the replacements to last, but that doesn't seem to be the case. :/

Let this topic enlighten some as well about horror stories trying to get this fixed, and other topics are lying around if you take the time to look regarding names and such of those affected: http://community.us.playstation.com/message/30818845

I think Sony had it coming. But I do not condone these attacks. However, I hope Sony realizes it needs to do better and treat their customers better.

Shidoshi

2011-05-06, 08:30 AM

But the thing is there's a standard security you have to have to even deal with credit cards. You don't blame the company for that, you blame the standards that, assuming, are minimum of having at a federal level. So no, it isn't like they just took a bunch of info, put it on a desktop folder saying "CUSTOMER INFO". If the security is inadequate, then they were misinformed as the federal standard is set by, well the government. So you either conced that the security throughout the country is inferior, or that sony is just getting beat on like a dead horse for adhearing to federal standard.

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=43399&p=721798
Seems like my case is getting closer to the reality.

Kalovale

2011-05-06, 09:33 AM

Valon

2011-05-06, 09:48 AM

"Don't peek in my room!"
"You peeked in my room!!! WRRYYYYY???"

That's silly. Getting legal actions on wrongdoers is one thing, being responsible for a mishap taking place in the first place is another.

It's not like Sony had no protection at all. It's more like

"Don't break into my vault, get passed my armed guards, sneak through my laser system, and crack my safe"

"whered you get that tank?"

Just because their server software was outdated and didn't have a firewall on the innermost level doesnt mean they couldnt have loads of hardware firewalls and god knows what else...if anything im impressed that the only problem they found was an outdated Apache =___= people are blaming sony when it seems pretty obvious that this hacker was just really skilled

Kalovale

2011-05-06, 09:55 AM

It's not like Sony had no protection at all. It's more like

"Don't break into my vault, get passed my armed guards, sneak through my laser system, and crack my safe"

"whered you get that tank?"
Same shit.

And no one is to blame except Sony themselves for not having enough protection.
Look at it this way. No couple would want an unexpected child, but the probability is out there. What do? Neglect and QQ about it later?
If you do not want something to happen, you had better make damned sure it does not happen. End of story.
Sure, you may think the world is pink and balloons actually are round, but someone out there is pretty keen on fucking your life up just for lulz.