[1.2.377] New music. Changed Worldmaps.

[Fiel]

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- Removed "henesys_remix" song
- Added new song: monsterPark.mp3 (http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/sound/monsterPark.mp3)


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여행자의 윙글래스
Eye Accessory - All classes
Req Level: 13
STR: +3
DEX: +3
INT: +3
LUK: +3
WDEF: +20
MDEF: +20
Jump: +5
Sense EXP: +30
Time Limited
Tradeblock
Cannot resell to merchants
3 slots





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Hero
Advanced Final Attack - ar (15 --> 10)

Paladin
Blast - damage (300 --> 290)

Dragon Knight
Dragon Buster - damage (170 --> 185)

[Kreeftje]

Niice, did they read spadow's blog or whhut? He said they should do something with ellin forest maps

[Teppi]

Niice, did they read spadow's blog or whhut? He said they should do something with ellin forest maps

it's ugly tho =\ they should just make it a completely different map

[shouri]

lols, there goes Blast yet again :f3:

[KhainiWest]

I dont see the temple of time change?

[Link]

I dont see the temple of time change?

Look to the left of the doors. There's a new label.

[Fiel]

Look by the doors.

[FenixR]

Trying to find the changes in the ToT maps are like looking for waldo :f3:

Also nerf again at blast? God dammit Decide already.

Edit: Im ashamed that i just plain ignored the label Lolz >.>

[KhainiWest]

Wow. They added a pineappleing nametag, lol

It's cool dante, I'm the one who asked, therefore must shoulder the shame for both of us.

[ShinkuDragon]

what about that pally 1.5 sec invulnerability after guard? it isn't there?

[Fiel]

what about that pally 1.5 sec invulnerability after guard? it isn't there?

That would be in the EXE, not in the WZ files.

[ShinkuDragon]

That would be in the EXE, not in the WZ files.

true, my mistake, well, if anyone can confirm it, i'll be waiting patiently (is not a pally) and the boost on crusher is nice, but still pales in front of impale, both in speed and power.

now, if that fourth hit were to come back...

[Dark Link]

Once again, 300% deemed too powerful! Seems like we're getting another 5% buff post Chaos :|

[FenixR]

Once again, 300% deemed too powerful! Seems like we're getting another 5% buff post Chaos :|

I don't really care about the change to damage, what im annoyed is that they keep changing the damn number!

[kremechoko]

I really love the new music KMS has been making lately

[Sorien]

Now they just need to make ACB less powerful and Paladins will be as they should be. Defensive warriors that get major boosts when an elemental weakness is present, but terrible against neutral mobs.

[Takebacker]

I think if they're spending this much time on warriors and implementing all the changes to the official version they might be serious about finalization this time. They can't seem to decide on blast damage though. >.>

[Dark Link]

Now they just need to make ACB less powerful and Paladins will be as they should be. Defensive warriors that get major boosts when an elemental weakness is present, but terrible against neutral mobs.

Uh...tanks are supposed to be the kings of mobbing, nerfing ACB ruins the original concept :|
Stop trying to make Paladins the "Jack of all trades" again.

[Kabanaw]

I read something about animation changes somewhere. I guess not. :o

[Sorien]

Uh...tanks are supposed to be the kings of mobbing, nerfing ACB ruins the original concept :|
Stop trying to make Paladins the "Jack of all trades" again.

I suppose, but I still think that dealing 700% damage is overkill. Especially when Combat Orders and elemental weaknesses are factored in.

[SwordStaker]

If they are only doing warriors other classes are going to be majorly pissed. Who else agrees that every class should have a "stance" skill in 4th job?Evans, Dbs, Warriors, mechs, bams and whs have one. Just give on to the rest of the classes. L>Evan tweaks, mages redone, archers able to compete with whs and infighter revamp>.>

[MetaSeraphim]

Adding Ellin to Ludi was a nice touch.

[Dark Link]

If they are only doing warriors other classes are going to be majorly pissed. Who else agrees that every class should have a "stance" skill in 4th job?Evans, Dbs, Warriors, mechs, bams and whs have one. Just give on to the rest of the classes. L>Evan tweaks, mages redone, archers able to compete with whs and infighter revamp>.>

Warriors should have a movement / +Speed skill then, that's on spammable status, none of this "2sec rush delay BS". Warriors only "movement" modifier is their mount lol

[Jon]

I'm glad they're updating older maps some more. It makes me think they really care.

[andyandythin]

Warriors should have a movement / +Speed skill then, that's on spammable status, none of this "2sec rush delay BS". Warriors only "movement" modifier is their mount lol

thats so true. i get pissed when a first job mech has a spammable rush and we only get out rush in 4th job and has 2sec delay

[Kojo]

Paladin
Blast - damage (300 --> 290)

It's funny how they keep buffing the damage and then bringing it back down

[byakugan]

I'm glad they're updating older maps some more. It makes me think they really care.

Nexon Korea cares... Nexon America doesn't.

I consider the accuracy bonus from AFA pointless, unless after chaos it somehow is helpful. I remember Fiel mentioning the accuracy formula got changed after chaos.

Who else thinks monster park will be another NX-required area? If it wont be then why would they add ripped ticket pieces like for golden temple. They also made those Treasure Monsters that spawn around the world drop monster park tickets 100%. Why doing all of that if the tickets are worth only 30k from the NPC?

[Dark Zero]

Nexon Korea cares... Nexon America doesn't.

I consider the accuracy bonus from AFA pointless, unless after chaos it somehow is helpful. I remember Fiel mentioning the accuracy formula got changed after chaos.

Who else thinks monster park will be another NX-required area? If it wont be then why would they add ripped ticket pieces like for golden temple. They also made those Treasure Monsters that spawn around the world drop monster park tickets 100%. Why doing all of that if the tickets are worth only 30k from the NPC?

maybe u can buy 1 ticket per day and if u dont need that u only go to hunt mobs

[Viaje]

Nexon Korea cares... Nexon America doesn't.
This statement is ludicrous.

[Dusk]

Nexon Korea cares... Nexon America doesn't.

I consider the accuracy bonus from AFA pointless, unless after chaos it somehow is helpful. I remember Fiel mentioning the accuracy formula got changed after chaos.

Who else thinks monster park will be another NX-required area? If it wont be then why would they add ripped ticket pieces like for golden temple. They also made those Treasure Monsters that spawn around the world drop monster park tickets 100%. Why doing all of that if the tickets are worth only 30k from the NPC?

Accuracy in Chaos is more helpful in the sense that it affects your hit rate more than it does in Big Bang, but it is completely useless since your main stat will always provide accuracy and you should have enough of it to 100% hit everything.

[Abysseon]

but it is completely useless since your main stat will always provide accuracy and you should have enough of it to 100% hit everything.

So if it still isn't worthwhile compared to the character/monster level deduction, what was the point of adding ACC to existing items (+420 ACC to ludibrum cape, +400 ACC to time traveler helm) and ACC% to advanced final attack? They must have something planned in the near future.

[Viaje]

So if it still isn't worthwhile compared to the character/monster level deduction, what was the point of adding ACC to existing items (+420 ACC to ludibrum cape, +400 ACC to time traveler helm) and ACC% to advanced final attack? They must have something planned in the near future.
One would hope, but history has taught me that Nexon doesn't have a firm grasp on its own mechanics.

I mean, look, they clearly have no idea what the pineapple to do with accuracy.
It's a stat that was grandfathered in with Big Bang, seemingly out of some obligation towards and 'RPG standard'.
In reality, player Accuracy and monster Avoid could have been removed entirely (or until they decide what to do with it).

[Sorien]

One would hope, but history has taught me that Nexon doesn't have a firm grasp on its own mechanics.

I mean, look, they clearly have no idea what the pineapple to do with accuracy.
It's a stat that was grandfathered in with Big Bang, seemingly out of some obligation towards and 'RPG standard'.
In reality, player Accuracy and monster Avoid could have been removed entirely (or until they decide what to do with it).

Well, if they made it so Dexterity and Intelligence were the only stats that affect physical and magical accuracy (respectively), then there "might" be a use for it with warriors again. Other than that, they really did mess up accuracy, I think they should have left it alone when BB was released, and just made it so warriors had just a smidge more from Mastery.

But it's like you said, they don't seem to know how their own mechanics work.

[Delicae]

Well, if they made it so Dex and Intelligence were the only stats affection physical and magical accuracy (respectively), then there "might" be a use for it with warriors again. Other than that, they really did mess up accuracy, I think they should have left it alone when BB was released, and just made it so warriors had just a smidge more from Mastery.

But it's like you said, they don't seem to know how their own mechanics work.


Dex?
Affection?

I don't get what you're trying to say.

[Locked]

Well, if they made it so Dex and Intelligence were the only stats affection physical and magical accuracy (respectively), then there "might" be a use for it with warriors again. Other than that, they really did mess up accuracy, I think they should have left it alone when BB was released, and just made it so warriors had just a smidge more from Mastery.

But it's like you said, they don't seem to know how their own mechanics work.

er..

|STR|DEX|INT|LUK
Weapon DEF|1.5|0.4||0.4
Magic DEF||0.4|1.5|0.4
Weapon ACC|0.4|1.6||0.8
Magic ACC||0.4|1.6|0.8
Weapon EVA|0.2|0.6||1.4
Magic EVA||0.2|0.6|1.4

Also, I don't understand how thieves have less avoid than warriors, according to people. That table is supposedly post-Chaos.


Dex?
Affection?

I don't get what you're trying to say.

He meant "Dex and Int are the only stats that affect physical and magical accuracy."

[byakugan]

This statement is ludicrous.

do you mind? it's my own opinion, if you think it's wrong you should try pointing out how, instead of making fun of it.

You think Nexon America pays attention to little details? The only "little details" I remember they have taken care of were the grammar corrections over NPC dialogues brought in their biggest patch ever, big bang. Other than that, no I don't see how they do. Heck, even half of their exclusive content is composed of recoloured elements from other existant areas. Oh and bug fixes don't count.

[MysticHLE]

do you mind? it's my own opinion, if you think it's wrong you should try pointing out how, instead of making fun of it.

You think Nexon America pays attention to little details? The only "little details" I remember they have taken care of were the grammar corrections over NPC dialogues brought in their biggest patch ever, big bang. Other than that, no I don't see how they do. Heck, even half of their exclusive content is composed of recoloured elements from other existant areas. Oh and bug fixes don't count.

He's hardly making fun of it. That's his opinion of your opinion.

[Sorien]

Dex?
Affection?

I don't get what you're trying to say.

Woops, that was a stupid typo, give me a minute and I'll fix it!

[Viaje]

do you mind? it's my own opinion, if you think it's wrong you should try pointing out how, instead of making fun of it.

You think Nexon America pays attention to little details? The only "little details" I remember they have taken care of were the grammar corrections over NPC dialogues brought in their biggest patch ever, big bang. Other than that, no I don't see how they do. Heck, even half of their exclusive content is composed of recoloured elements from other existant areas. Oh and bug fixes don't count.
Why should I try to educate an uneducated, unsupported post?

- Where exactly are details lacking from them?
- Better yet, do you know the size of Nexon America's Maplestory development team?
- Do you know the size of Nexon Korea's Maplestory development team?
- Do you know how much artistic license Nexon America is legally able to take?
- Do you know what the approval process for exclusive content is?
- Hell, do you know what fraction "half" equals? Because I'm pretty sure CWK is the only bit of exclusive content GMS has, and I clearly am overlooking all these "recolours".

Your post was made of sheer ignorance cockily sneered by a mouth that cares more about being trendy than being accurate.
Instead, you've opted for the "if I label a turd as an 'opinion', then it becomes an immutable product of my mind" school of discussion which I've been wanting to locate for years so that I can burn it down.

"Blue is the best color ever." - That is an opinion that needs no follow-up since it's clearly a personal taste.
"Blue seems to be a more popular color." - Still an opinion, but you should explain how you arrived at this belief.
"Blue is a color." - Not an opinion.

[Haseo]

Actually, Viaje, how does the approval process for exclusive contenr go? And what's the comparative ratio of Nexon America's team to Nexon Korea's team?

I want to know how much of a peach working for Nexon America actually is.

[Satellite]

If they are only doing warriors other classes are going to be majorly pissed. Who else agrees that every class should have a "stance" skill in 4th job?Evans, Dbs, Warriors, mechs, bams and whs have one. Just give on to the rest of the classes. L>Evan tweaks, mages redone, archers able to compete with whs and infighter revamp>.>
I don't agree. Every class should have its own pros and cons. What they should do is remove skills from obviously way too well-rounded classes like Mechanic and Dual Blade...

[Haseo]

Dual Blades are somewhat less well rounded than they used to be, since their ultimates are gone/will be removed.

[Cancambo]

Warriors should have a movement / +Speed skill then, that's on spammable status, none of this "2sec rush delay BS". Warriors only "movement" modifier is their mount lol

Berserk is adding +20 speed at level 30 now. I might play again after this patch because I'll have 140% speed/120% jump and Dark Impale looks awesome.

[Viaje]

Actually, Viaje, how does the approval process for exclusive contenr go? And what's the comparative ratio of Nexon America's team to Nexon Korea's team?

I want to know how much of a peach working for Nexon America actually is.
I have no idea, which is exactly why you won't see me making generalized statements about how invested one branch is compared to another.

Unfortunately, Nexon isn't a very transparent company.

[Baklava]

Actually, Viaje, how does the approval process for exclusive contenr go? And what's the comparative ratio of Nexon America's team to Nexon Korea's team?

I want to know how much of a peach working for Nexon America actually is.

Considering how much crap gets added to Nexon America like the return of EXP cards after BB and all the overpowered equips and stuff that KMS doesn't even think about, I'm thinking that there is barely any review from Nexon KR on Nexon NA's content.

The only thing I heard is that Nexon NA sends them ideas and Nexon KR drew them out, but now they don't have to do that because they have a small division of Nexon KR people there.

If they really had to go through a "content approval" process, it's certainly extremely lenient.

>_>

[CarrionCrow]

Considering how much crap gets added to Nexon America like the return of EXP cards after BB and all the overpowered equips and stuff that KMS doesn't even think about, I'm thinking that there is barely any review from Nexon KR on Nexon NA's content.

The only thing I heard is that Nexon NA sends them ideas and Nexon KR drew them out, but now they don't have to do that because they have a small division of Nexon KR people there.

If they really had to go through a "content approval" process, it's certainly extremely lenient.

>_>

With the advent of potential the OP factor of GMS items took a huge dive. Not even our VIP gear will be anything special once Chaos hits and the 121+ potential tier gets canceled and all the items will have their bonuses reverted to appropriate 71+ ones. Our 1.3x and 1.5x EXP event cards are as nothing compared to the new stacking of potentials currently in KMS (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=41779). We do not even hold a candle to the imbalance that they create in KMS.

[DeanNim]

121+ potential tier gets canceled and all the items will have their bonuses reverted to appropriate 71+ ones.

citation needed.

[CarrionCrow]

citation needed.

It has already been 100% confirmed that the 121+ tier goes away. What we have to support the reverting on current items would be the nature of the bonuses in the data, as explained by Fiel (I think), and what happened to the VIP Crossbow when they changed its level in GMS (the potential stats followed suit). This is not 100% proof of course, but it damn right tip the scales in favor of my hypothesis.

[Fiel]

It has already been 100% confirmed that the 121+ tier goes away. What we have to support the reverting on current items would be the nature of the bonuses in the data, as explained by Fiel (I think), and what happened to the VIP Crossbow when they changed its level in GMS (the potential stats followed suit). This is not 100% proof of course, but it damn right tip the scales in favor of my hypothesis.

My name is Fiel, and I approve this message.

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=35651

[Jackie]

eww
I rather they don't make an ElinForest map now
now it destroys the almost-perfect symmetry of Ludus Lake
Death the Kid : NEXON , YOU DISGUST ME !
Either they make a beautiful full map of ElinForest or just give up ....

[Takebacker]

It has already been 100% confirmed that the 121+ tier goes away. What we have to support the reverting on current items would be the nature of the bonuses in the data, as explained by Fiel (I think), and what happened to the VIP Crossbow when they changed its level in GMS (the potential stats followed suit). This is not 100% proof of course, but it damn right tip the scales in favor of my hypothesis.

So you or someone you know potentialed a VIP xbow before it was changed server side (still lv 27), and when it was changed the potential on the existing lines changed and you witnessed this?

[CarrionCrow]

So you or someone you know potentialed a VIP xbow before it was changed server side (still lv 27), and when it was changed the potential on the existing lines changed and you witnessed this?

I remember seeing posts about it here and elsewhere. Also, by logic, in order to know the potential was broken on it, it would have had to be revealed. After the fix patch not a single "boohoo" post poped up on any forums I poke around at. As the final nail in the coffin the link Fiel provided tells us how the potential system works and is stored, different from the regular item stats I imagine. The 121+ tier simply cease to exist. Nothing there to be left on the items, the code links to a different outcome, namely the respective 71+ tier bonus.

[Takebacker]

I've already long accepted the fact that potential AFTER the change will be 3rd tier. My question is whether or not the existing stats will change upon transition, which i have never ever seen confirmed.

[CarrionCrow]

I've already long accepted the fact that potential AFTER the change will be 3rd tier. My question is whether or not the existing stats will change upon transition, which i have never ever seen confirmed.

You will not find any final proof since KMS did not have any lvl 121+ stuff prior to Chaos. But yes, the VIP x-bows corrected themselves with a patch and the data is such that you cannot have 121+ tier bonuses if the database for said bonuses is missing (as far as I understand Fiels work. Note that I aint a computer wiz by any means).

[Viaje]

It has already been 100% confirmed that the 121+ tier went away in KMS. What we have to support the reverting on current items would be the nature of the bonuses in the data, as explained by Fiel (I think), and what happened to the VIP Crossbow when they changed its level in GMS (the potential stats followed suit). This is not 100% proof of course, but it damn right tip the scales in favor of my hypothesis.
Fixed.
I'm not saying it will happen, nor do I believe it will, but there's always the chance that NxNA could choose to keep the current Potential system in tact. This would be one change that would not impact the compatibility with any future patches.
I can already see the petitions and whining as people's VIP weapons simultaneously get nerfed if it does get changed.


I've already long accepted the fact that potential AFTER the change will be 3rd tier. My question is whether or not the existing stats will change upon transition, which i have never ever seen confirmed.
They have to change due to how the Potential stats are stored.
When you Potential an item, it doesn't lookup the stat once and store "this weapon has 8% W.Atk".
It's a reference. When the level changes, the reference changes.

[Katforks]

They have to change due to how the Potential stats are stored.
When you Potential an item, it doesn't lookup the stat once and store "this weapon has 8% W.Atk".
It's a reference. When the level changes, the reference changes.
I'd be more concerned that you change the reference and make the item not only display incorrectly [i'm envisioning <null> everywhere], but possibly make it so when you try to view it shit crashes due to referencing nonexisting values.

[Fiel]

They didn't change the numbers of the potential references. They only changed the values of those references. I don't foresee any <null>s.

[Katforks]

They didn't change the numbers of the potential references. They only changed the values of those references. I don't foresee any <null>s.
So then the stuff in 121+ points back to the 71+ tier or they just copied the 71+ tier into 121+, or similar "removal"? Cool.
Now to see how they screw it up when/if it comes here.

[Fiel]

It's not really in tiers, but okay. Yeah, that's what they did.

[Dracolix]

Anyone notice the MonsterPark sounds similar to some other games? I'm thinking Castlevania but guess really, there's only so many kinds of tunes one can use.