[0.96] Borked Elemental Weapons

[Fiel]

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Yes, it's frustrating.

Nexon seems to have polarized a few wands. In a nutshell, this means you cannot trust the orb in the item icon to determine which boosts you get. So, time to start over from scratch.

Wands & Staves Affected:
Elemental Wand 6
Elemental Wand 8
Elemental Staff 2
Elemental Staff 4
Elemental Staff 6
Elemental Staff 7
Elemental Staff 8



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372035.png
Elemental Wand 1
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 70
INT: +1
Magic Attack: +85
Weapon Attack: +56
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372036.png
Elemental Wand 2
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 70
INT: +1
Magic Attack: +85
Weapon Attack: +56
Fire Damage: 105%
Poison Damage: 110%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372037.png
Elemental Wand 3
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 70
LUK: +1
Magic Attack: +85
Weapon Attack: +56
Ice Damage: 110%
Lit Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372038.png
Elemental Wand 4
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 70
LUK: +1
Magic Attack: +85
Weapon Attack: +56
Ice Damage: 105%
Lit Damage: 110%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots


http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372039.png
Elemental Wand 5
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 130
INT: +2
Magic Attack: +145
Weapon Attack: +92
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots


http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372040.png
Elemental Wand 6
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 130
INT: +2
Magic Attack: +145
Weapon Attack: +92
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots


http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372041.png
Elemental Wand 7
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 130
LUK: +2
Magic Attack: +145
Weapon Attack: +92
Ice Damage: 110%
Lit Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots


http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01372042.png
Elemental Wand 8
Wand - Magicians only
Req Level: 130
LUK: +2
Magic Attack: +145
Weapon Attack: +92
Ice Damage: 110%
Lit Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Slow(7)
7 slots

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382045.png
Elemental Staff 1
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 103
Req LUK: 105
INT: +1
LUK: +1
Magic Attack: +118
Weapon Attack: +72
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382046.png
Elemental Staff 2
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 103
Req LUK: 105
INT: +2
Magic Attack: +118
Weapon Attack: +72
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382047.png
Elemental Staff 3
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 103
Req LUK: 105
INT: +1
LUK: +1
Magic Attack: +118
Weapon Attack: +72
Ice Damage: 110%
Lit Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382048.png
Elemental Staff 4
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 103
Req LUK: 105
LUK: +2
Magic Attack: +118
Weapon Attack: +72
Ice Damage: 110%
Lit Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382049.png
Elemental Staff 5
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 163
Req LUK: 165
INT: +2
LUK: +1
Magic Attack: +178
Weapon Attack: +108
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots


http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382050.png
Elemental Staff 6
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 163
Req LUK: 165
INT: +3
Magic Attack: +178
Weapon Attack: +108
Fire Damage: 110%
Poison Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382051.png
Elemental Staff 7
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 163
Req LUK: 165
INT: +1
LUK: +2
Magic Attack: +178
Weapon Attack: +108
Ice Damage: 105%
Lit Damage: 110%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots



http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/patch/character/01382052.png
Elemental Staff 8
Staff - Magicians only
Req Level: 163
Req LUK: 165
LUK: +3
Magic Attack: +178
Weapon Attack: +108
Ice Damage: 110%
Lit Damage: 105%
Other Elemental Penalty: 75%
Fast(4)
7 slots

[Justin]

Fuck, my ele wand 6 gives 10% fire damage now instead of poison? sonofa.... hope they fix this soon.... *facepalm*

[Beg]

That is unbelievably borked. It isn't even a consistent error either, which makes me think it was deliberate. None of the high end elemental weapons for F/Ps increase Poison by 10%, implying F/Ps are OP >_>;. I'm not rescrolling a whole new Estaff 7 for an extra 5% damage, would rather have the full lightning boost that I actually paid for.

brb sending ticket that'll most likely result in a "working as intended" reply

[Unauthorized Intruder]

So there will be a glitch that what supposed to be poison staff gives fire staff effect instead?

g fucking g.

[Pow]

Haha now this is stupid; staves are fast(4) and wands are slow(7)?

[byakugan]

Haha now this is stupid; staves are fast(4) and wands are slow(7)?

Thats been like that always i believe.

Lol, why didnt they make ele wand 7 give 10% Lightning dmg? thats the one my GF owns. :f3: Well i hope it gets fixed soon, but knowing Nexon it will take until chaos.

In any case, fire mages dont seem to be affected, who uses poison as main element anyway?

[street]

To tell you the truth I don't mind losing 5%

[Dusk]

Necksawn hate F/P

[Corn]

Was it really that hard to mess up?

[Abysseon]

So the thread on basil was correct. Thanks for the extraction Fiel.

Made a thead on the nexon forums and logged a ticket about the glitch.


Well i hope it gets fixed soon, but knowing Nexon it will take until chaos.

Chaos Update: The bonuses have been removed due to balance reasons. =s

Well hopefully it doesn't take three months for them to fix it this time.


In any case, fire mages doesnt seem to be affected, who uses poison as main element anyway?

Paralyze.

[Kalovale]

How long have we been having issues with these things anyway?

[Kalemora]

It's always something with Eles isn't it? :f3:

[Abysseon]

How long have we been having issues with these things anyway?

Since the beginning of the elemental weapon gachapon update in GMS.

[Dusk]

Brief history:
- Elemental weapons released without elemental bonuses.
- Several months later: Elemental bonuses instated, but without the penalty for Holy. Much complaining for the longest time.
- Much later: Holy penalty added
- Big Bang: Elemental bonuses removed again due to balance reasons
- Now: A much smaller bonus was added back to the elemental weapons, but with some elements flip-flopped.

[SwordStaker]

To tell you the truth I don't mind losing 5%
This. The 110% fire bonus has done my Evan well. Oh Feil does Dark and Holy receive penalty? Because pre-bb as I recall dark had no penalty.

[byakugan]

Paralyze.

Wops. I forgot about that

[Nesso]

I knew it. I was looking at my new damage and I was like, this can't be 10%. I hate waiting for it to get fixed, so I hope this will be in a server check soon.

[Turtally]

Oh. Well at least they only switched the primary and secondary elements. When you said "polarized", I thought you meant Fire -> Ice, Lightning -> Poison, etc...that would've been way worse.

[Kalemora]

This. The 110% fire bonus has done my Evan well. Oh Feil does Dark and Holy receive penalty? Because pre-bb as I recall dark had no penalty.
If your only Mage is an Evan, then you're not even losing 5% you're gaining 5% more than you should with an Ele 6. o_o

[Kirov]

Now the real question, just how long will it take them to actually put it right.

[Anonymous Moose]

Was it really that hard to mess up?

This is Nexon we are talking about. They probably think 2 + 2 = 5, and it seems impossible for them to not fuck things up.

[hamad138]

so a bam lose 75%dmg with a ele staff 7?

[Devil]

Time to actually fix this and correct mistakes: 5 minutes.
Time it will take Nexon America to fix this and get changes implemented into game: 1 month at least.

[CarrionCrow]

so a bam lose 75%dmg with a ele staff 7?

Lol. No, the reduction is 25% and it does not affect non elemental attacks, and pre BB it did not affect dark element.

[Eos]

Oh good.
This explains why it was exactly what I seemed to be seeing when testing my weapons. I didn't read the variables though when I confirmed the 25/10 became 10/5, just the values :f3:

[Anonymous Moose]

Lol. No, the reduction is 25% and it does not affect non elemental attacks, and pre BB it did not affect dark element.

Did someone confirm that this is the case for dark attacks?

[Tikey]

Did someone confirm that this is the case for dark attacks?

From what I'm seeing dark attacks still aren't affect. Testing with Killer Wings with a theorical 129926 ~ 136758 damage range before MDR, I'm seeing 117k ~ 122k when attacking a mob with 10% MDR while having my Elemental Wand 5 equipped.

[Anonymous Moose]

I just tested it. My KW should do at max 136k on a 10% PDR target. I easily hit 133k.

[Rayquaza2233]

Looks like they just did the first ones of each set (the 10% fire/ice and 5% poison/lightning ones) and then copied them for each one that affected the same elements.

[Jellyflower]

Maybe if GMS has the MSEA's naming system of the weapons, it wouldn't be so confusing. Looks like the 'staff' are as confused as the players when elemental weapons were first introduced. I always liked the name fire orb wand/staff.

[Veneni]

At least they didn't switch fire and ice, now THAT would be a tragedy. Now you'll have 5% instead of the 10% you hoped for, so at least your damage went up :)

[Dusk]

Only in MapleStory do people not think 5 and 10% are vastly different boosts.

[Luffy]

-facepalm-

Don't be glad that they did their job wrong lol. 10% and 5% IS a big difference.

Off-Topic: I've read somewhere that Nexon might release Elestaves for Bishops and BaM's also. Is there a source for this? I find this hard to be realistic without a sauce.

[Abysseon]

-facepalm-
Off-Topic: I've read somewhere that Nexon might release Elestaves for Bishops and BaM's also. Is there a source for this? I find this hard to be realistic without a sauce.

Did you read it on the nexon forums by a representative/announcement or a post by some random player? =/

Also, we need more tickets and posts on the nexon forums.

Here's a thread in the Bugs/Glitch section:

http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums/thread/6929661.aspx

[Eos]

Off-Topic: I've read somewhere that Nexon might release Elestaves for Bishops and BaM's also. Is there a source for this? I find this hard to be realistic without a sauce.

That rumor has existed since literally the day these things were first released years ago.
Just like any Nexon related rumor, unless it's published as part of an interview with a Nexon employee, posted by a Nexon employee, or posted in Nexon's own announcements it's just that; a rumor.

[IImaplers]

Another slap in the face to F/P archmages. Thank you Nexon. At least I/L can still use ele staff 7 to get 10% CL boost (thanks abysseon for the correction), F/Ps can only get a 5% Parlayze boost atm.

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[Abysseon]

Another slap in the face to F/P archmages. Thank you Nexon. At least I/L can still use ele wand/staff 7 to get 10% CL boost, F/Ps can only get a 5% Parlayze boost atm.

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Ele Wand 7 isn't affected so its just a 5% boost to CL.

How many archmages are 163+ and can afford an ele staff 7 for a boost that will be fixed
later on?

[IImaplers]

Ele Wand 7 isn't affected so its just a 5% boost to CL.

How many archmages are 163+ and can afford an ele staff 7 for a boost that will be fixed
later on?

It doesn't matter. This just needs to get fixed. I'm sick of all this incompetence.

[Cheesecake]

Still waiting for them to fix Teliport mastery animation...
It works in tespia doesn't it? So how can it not work in GMS :f5:

[rayhovite]

Another slap in the face to F/P archmages. Thank you Nexon. At least I/L can still use ele staff 7 to get 10% CL boost (thanks abysseon for the correction), F/Ps can only get a 5% Parlayze boost atm.

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Don't worry man. Even with Ele wands, we're still vastl underpowered! We're all (mages) losers! :)

[IImaplers]

Don't worry man. Even with Ele wands, we're still vastl underpowered! We're all (mages) losers! :)

I'm more calm now. Yesterday I made a rage thread on basil. xD

[Abysseon]

Don't worry man. Even with Ele wands, we're still vastl underpowered! We're all (mages) losers! :)

Well, at least the weapons give us the illusion of being better bossers. :D

Just keeping a few in stock for when kms finally makes cl/paralyze/angel ray multi hit and revamps the
adventure mage class. (It WILL happen............yeah)


I'm more calm now. Yesterday I made a rage thread on basil. xD

Someone made a f/p dot duration glitch thread in the nexon forum but it only got one reply so far...

I posted a link to the elemental weapon glitch thread on sleepywood/basil/sp and it still needs a lot
more posts in order to get stickied/announced...

What happened to the mages who made a 20+ page thread when the bonuses were removed in big bang? :(

[Eos]

What happened to the mages who made a 20+ page thread when the bonuses were removed in big bang? :(

They all went in search of games with competent management after months upon months of no updates to this issue.

[IImaplers]

Well, at least the weapons give us the illusion of being better bossers. :D

Just keeping a few in stock for when kms finally makes cl/paralyze/angel ray multi hit and revamps the
adventure mage class. (It WILL happen............yeah)



Someone made a f/p dot duration glitch thread in the nexon forum but it only got one reply so far...

I posted a link to the elemental weapon glitch thread on sleepywood/basil/sp and it still needs a lot
more posts in order to get stickied/announced...

What happened to the mages who made a 20+ page thread when the bonuses were removed in big bang? :(

I'd definitely try to post on that dot duration glitch thread, but being that my job blocks Nexon's site, I can't xP. bleh

[Abysseon]

They all went in search of games with competent management after months upon months of no updates to this issue.

Hope this doesn't take months to fix. =x


I'd definitely try to post on that dot duration glitch thread, but being that my job blocks Nexon's site, I can't xP. bleh

Should be on the first or second page in the Bugs/Glitch section.

Also, -Hime- just locked two threads in the section so I know they're aware of the ele weapon/dot duration issues. :)

She/he? even responded to the flat hair glitch a few minutes ago.

[Sarah]

I don't know if anyone else has confirmed this yet but I just got my battle mage to 103 and equipped my staff 3 (blizzard) and it doesn't penalize at all. Also the speed boost is crazy.

[Abysseon]

I don't know if anyone else has confirmed this yet but I just got my battle mage to 103 and equipped my staff 3 (blizzard) and it doesn't penalize at all. Also the speed boost is crazy.

Elemental weapon's % penalty doesn't affect battle mages.

[Delicae]

:( damit.

I'm starting to think I should just scroll an aeas.

[CarrionCrow]

Elemental weapon's % penalty doesn't affect battle mages.

Nor does it affect Evans dark elemental attacks. Thinking that Nexon would alter that when they can't even get the regular bonuses right is crediting them way too much.

[Shidoshi]

Nexon hates mages (and archers). Deal with it.

We've been recieving crap since forever.

[Jerry-Boyle]

So tempted to buy Ele Staff 6 for the same fire bonus as elestaff 5 and more magic attack which is impossible to afford...Stupid sushirox with her 290k NX staves...LOL

However once I do that, Nexon will fix them..D:

[Beg]

Ooh, reply to ticket. Rather than the "working as intended" auto-message I wholly expected I got the "this issue has been forwarded" response instead. Don't know how much I should really read into that though, did they just acknowledge it as a bug or are they just fending off complaints? :/

[Avus]

So tempted to buy Ele Staff 6 for the same fire bonus as elestaff 5 and more magic attack which is impossible to afford...Stupid sushirox with her 290k NX staves...LOL

However once I do that, Nexon will fix them..D:

His not hers. :P

Anyway... After almost 6 years of playing my mage and bishop, I might finally be frustrated enough with Nexon/Wizet not getting it screwing up and what ever else, to start a Corsair UA...


Tymen

[misc86]

I don't know if anyone else has confirmed this yet but I just got my battle mage to 103 and equipped my staff 3 (blizzard) and it doesn't penalize at all. Also the speed boost is crazy.

what speed are you talking about? movement speed? casting speed? where does it say the staffs give speed boost?

[Fiel]

Staves are Fast(3). Wands are Slow(7).

[Eos]

what speed are you talking about? movement speed? casting speed? where does it say the staffs give speed boost?

http://www.southperry.net/db/?do=singleresult&version=4&searchtype=2&vnum=1382048

Read the speed.
Now look at every non-elemental staff.