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OrangeGuy
2010-11-27, 08:35 PM
Already had problems post BB, now what about reconstruction?

JoeTang
2010-11-27, 09:21 PM
How did it have problems post-BB?

Kurtle
2010-11-27, 09:25 PM
He already had problems figuring it out after BB, now he has no idea what to do for Reconstruction?

ultimax21
2010-11-27, 09:59 PM
Don't see whats the big deal, pre BB build is close to the same as post BB build except that you drop sudden raid and mirror image becomes more useful to max since it has higher damage output. The only problem with reconstruction that I see is you have too many attack skills. Just wait until it becomes live then before bothering with builds for now, it could change again for all we know.

Sadly, until I get some real decent translations I don't even want to come up with a build that GMS won't even get for several months because we haven't even made it to post BB yet. Gives me a headache when I have to keep staring at korean letters that I can't even understand at all.

JoeTang
2010-11-27, 10:22 PM
I'd still like clarification on this, but anyways.

2nd+ Max Slash Storm, Self Haste, Shadow Resistance, 16 spare points for Booster, Dark Sight.
3rd Max Tornado Spin, Flash Jump, 1 Upper Stab
3rd+ Max Flying Assaulter, Mirror Image, Advanced Dark Sight, Bloody Storm, Vital Steal, +19 Upper Stab, 20 Owl Dead, 5 Flash Bang. 27 spare points.

Fatal Blow is useless in training. It hardly out-DPSes Triple Stab. It doesn't out-DPS Slash Storm. It's too slow. It's single target. Go back and get more Booster and Dark Sight.
Tornado Spin and Flash Jump gives you all your mobility. Monsters won't live particularly long enough to use Upper Stab's throw damage, but its speed is useful.
Flying Assaulter is your primary attack. Bloody Storm scales really poorly in that the DPS is lower even when maxed and is only useful for its high mob count and ability to quickly chain from Flying Assaulter. Mirror Image should give a bigger damage boost now so get that instead. Advanced Dark Sight is awesome ballerness so get that after since it's not as big of a guarantee increase in damage compared to Mirror Image. Vital Steal in my eyes isn't too good. It has a chance to steal a % of health, so it's unreliable unlike Drain, Vampire, Combo Drain etc. Upper Stab should help training more than anything else at this point. Owl Dead is more useful than Flash Bang. Flash Bang is important for bossing. 27 spare points go wherever. 1 Phantom Blow out-DPSes Chains of Hell and is faster, therefore more useful. The speed lets you proc more Vital Steals and Advanced Dark Sights. I honestly don't think Chains of Hell has any use anymore unless there's invincibility frames to abuse.

tl;dr Fatal Blow and Chains of Hell suck.

ultimax21
2010-11-28, 01:23 AM
Concerning triple stab vs slash storm, slash storm can't be spammed and when you're near cliffs it becomes quite troublesome because you might just move right off. It's better to use triple stab in most cases however, it used to hit 3 targets and got reduced to only 2 so mobbing wise you really don't have much to use so early in lvls. If you're aiming for later levels, you can pretty much drop triple stab altogether because it becomes completely replaced at 3rd job.

Betweens 3rd job and 3rd+ there are some disputes because people have their own playstyles. Pure damage wise Flying assaulter combo + bloody storm gives more damage than Flying assaulter + tornado spin. However, most people would use the 2nd combo to rush the mobs all at the wall and spam upper stab. Pure preference here, I don't think there's much of a difference that early in levels especially if you're able to use just 1 combo set and finish them off (provided you have decent gears). I mostly use Bloody storm for its invincibility frames and its ability to come out so fast that it pretty much combos with any skill that you would use.

So if you want to pick a combo set for 3rd and 3rd+: (you can probably throw in lvl 1 upperstab as well since it spams better than slash storm)
1) Flying assaulter lvl 10 + maxed Tornado spin + max mirror image then max Flying Assaulter
2) Flying assaulter maxed + bloody storm maxed then max mirror image

Owl Spirit I'd hate to say but IT IS useless. A 49% chance of 1hko isn't reliable at all and such a time waster along with its cooldown which slows you down even more. That's besides the skill attack limit it has which can turn off the buff even if you just whacked air because it counts as an attack. Thanks to the new damage cap unless theres a mob with probably 20-50mil hp that can be instantly ko'ed, then its pretty much pointless for you if you can pull off 1mil hits.

I won't argue much about Chains of Hell though, I'll admit it just seems useless unless you want to take advantage of its invincibility frames, lvl 1 should do the job easily for this. Fatal Blow I don't have much to say either, it sucks; the only reason why it was good at all for bossing for early lvls was because it has a longer reach than triple stab which helps when you're getting knocked back so much (Restructured patch changed this).

Locked
2010-11-28, 01:42 AM
Chains of Hell has a 100% crit rate, afaik.

JoeTang
2010-11-28, 01:58 AM
Chains of Hell has a 100% crit rate, afaik.

620.73%/s Chains of Hell (ignoring Chain Delay)
610.5%/s Level 1 Phantom Blade

Steel
2010-12-08, 05:27 PM
What do I do [for BB]? FB seems useless + it's lvl 30. Should I just skip it? What the hell do I do when bossing >_> Isn't CoH nonspammable? Spam Upper Stab? XD