Market Updates

[Eos]

First wave...


Minimum donation is now 1,000 Karma
Donations can no longer be made to Mods, Admins, Banned users or Fiel.
30 day wait period between user name changes.
SPP now work
Font List expanded to full SP font list.


2010-11-26 21:05

User Name Font Face added
User Title Font Face added
A crap-ton of redundant code removed.


2010-11-27 12:36

Background's for Thread, Post, Username & UserTitle now available. The more obnoxious ones are the most expensive.
Thread title font face added.
Changed steal attempts to donations to other users
Resets added for nearly everything.


2010-11-27 16:49

"Outlined" has been added to the available colors for glowing, to give a black border instead of a glow.


Additional update notes will be made via editing this post throughout the weekend.

[Mute]

Lol, fiel stands alone. =P

SPP now works, so events are also in the works?

[Zelkova]

Congrats! You fixed the donation system. I was kinda..abusing it till you caught on <<

Sorry Eos.

[Khoi]

Congrats! You fixed the donation system. I was kinda..abusing it till you caught on <<

Sorry Eos.

So that's why you have more refunds than me. I'm onto your secret now, Zelkova!

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3976/1290446557533.jpg

[Fiel]

Much needed changes there.

How about removing me from "Most Steal Attempts"? I look like a giant thief haha.

[Eos]

Chins are giant thieves so at least it's appropriate.

Replacing that with Most Donations is on the ToDo list though.

[Fiel]

No, you have mistaken chinchillas for raccoons. :f5:

[Eos]

No, you have mistaken chinchillas for raccoons. :f5:

Nuh uh. They're as bad at hoarding as ferrets are.

[Fiel]

You dare despise the Chinchilla King's "Chinchilla Decency Act"?! I'll see to it that he carefully reviews your residency, and may you be subject to the bee cannon.

[Kunagisa]

So, how many people were donating below 1,000 karma anyway?

[Locked]

30-day wait period for name changes seems too long.

[Russt]

Honestly it isn't unless you're planning to abuse it. Shouldn't be an issue anyway because normal people have to pay for each name change, but who knows maybe someone might have a lot of money to spend.

(Thanks, Eosian. I had my fun but I suppose it could've gotten out of hand.)

[Zelkova]

You dare despise the Chinchilla King's "Chinchilla Decency Act"?! I'll see to it that he carefully reviews your residency, and may you be subject to the bee cannon.

This is too big for posting.

http://i54.tinypic.com/e7ey5g.gif

[Hazzy]

Congrats! You fixed the donation system. I was kinda..abusing it till you caught on <<

Sorry Eos.

He isn't alone. :(

I will probably not have any points to use until these so-called forum events, but updates are always nice.

[Eos]

So, how many people were donating below 1,000 karma anyway?

userid|Legal|Abusive|Grand Total||userid|Legal|Abusive|Grand Total
Zelkova|17|30|47||Zelkova|34475|300|34775
ThatWasMyKil||2|2||ThatWasMyKil||2.1|2.1
Hazzy||70|70||Hazzy||0|0
Khoi|2||2||Khoi|3100||3100
Jon|4|1|5||Jon|4400|1|4401
Kurtle|3||3||Kurtle|3300||3300
Sarah|1||1||Sarah|1235||1235
Daku|2|2|4||Daku|2660|138|2798
Kunagisa||1|1||Kunagisa||1|1
Mute|3||3||Mute|7790||7790
Derosis||1|1||Derosis||400|400
Fiel||1|1||Fiel||400|400
Waffles|1||1||Waffles|5000||5000
T&#248;biasBlack|1||1||T&#248;biasBlack|1010||1010
Grand Total|34|108|142||Grand Total|62970|1242.1|64212.1

[Zelkova]

I DID MORE GOOD THAN BAD! I DONT DESERVE TROUBLE!

(money wise....)

[Eos]

Were you punished?

[Khoi]

y is mai naem un der?

Ohwai-

Lol @ Abusive. Would you be able to define what you meant by abusive? Was it based by a certain #? Or is it just donating like.. 1's at someone, as an example?

[Zelkova]

Were you punished?

In my MIND! I punish myself..

[Fiel]

Just to clear this up, I did not do anything abusive. Derosis sent me 400 karma for helping him with his technical problems (I guess?) so I sent it back. I really have no use for Karma, so I'm glad these changes were implemented.

[Eos]

Nice to know Fiel's help is worth 40 cents. Knew I overpaid. :f3:

Next chunk of updates in.

[Jon]

Abusive? Yeah right. :f3:

Was that redundant code something that might have visibly lagged the site? It seems a bit faster now.

[Kunagisa]

userid|Legal|Abusive|Grand Total||userid|Legal|Abusive|Grand Total
Zelkova|17|30|47||Zelkova|34475|300|34775
ThatWasMyKil||2|2||ThatWasMyKil||2.1|2.1
Hazzy||70|70||Hazzy||0|0
Khoi|2||2||Khoi|3100||3100
Jon|4|1|5||Jon|4400|1|4401
Kurtle|3||3||Kurtle|3300||3300
Sarah|1||1||Sarah|1235||1235
Daku|2|2|4||Daku|2660|138|2798
Kunagisa||1|1||Kunagisa||1|1
Mute|3||3||Mute|7790||7790
Derosis||1|1||Derosis||400|400
Fiel||1|1||Fiel||400|400
Waffles|1||1||Waffles|5000||5000
T&#248;biasBlack|1||1||T&#248;biasBlack|1010||1010
Grand Total|34|108|142||Grand Total|62970|1242.1|64212.1


Hahaha, I forgot I sent someone one so they can feel special until I saw this list.

[Eos]

Was that redundant code something that might have visibly lagged the site? It seems a bit faster now.

Possibly. It was doing a redundant database query for every single user title displayed.

[Kunagisa]

What's the font size our usernames use, 2.5?

Kunagisa looks rather nice because of the crisp narrowness it has, but when stretched out to a bigger size it loses that appeal.

[Eos]

What's the font size our usernames use, 2.5?


11px I believe

[Fiel]

15px according to webkit inspect element.

[Eos]

Ah, that's right. the title is 11.

[Kunagisa]

Well, I know the size in pixels. I mean in terms of whatever unit the forum font size uses. As of right now, I don't think it's possible to emulate that size with the BB code we have, but I wanted to make sure. It seems to be between 2 and 3.

Thanks anyway though.

[Russt]

test

The size tag uses HTML <font> tags which were deprecated 12 years ago. In Chromium, size=2 is 13px and size=3 is 16px, so yes it would be between 2 and 3, closer to 3.

[Eos]

Well, I know the size in pixels. I mean in terms of whatever unit the forum font size uses. As of right now, I don't think it's possible to emulate that size with the BB code we have, but I wanted to make sure. It seems to be between 2 and 3.

Thanks anyway though.

It's not. vBulletin shouldn't even be using those font sizes but its font bbcode is entirely deprecated.

[iamflip]

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but I wonder... suppose you have Basic donator status and wanting to upgrade to Gold, right? You still have to pay that full amount of 20k? Why not make it 4.5k less off that for anyone who wants to upgrade?

[Eos]

The donation levels have built in discounts.

[Eos]

Another round of updates. I think there were ~23 to 27 in total.

[Kunagisa]

Does the post background feature actually change the whole background like your previous example with eye-hurt green? Or does it just add a [bg] tag to your text?

[Eos]

actually change the whole background

Yes.

[Kunagisa]

Hmmm, doesn't look so bad, I guess.

[Eos]

Yeah as long as the colors used aren't intentionally nightmarish it can be a very nice subtle distinction.

[Jon]

Great, now Zelkova is the king of all three. :f4:

[Kunagisa]

Yeah as long as the colors used aren't intentionally nightmarish it can be a very nice subtle distinction.

I took it off anyway because it still seemed a bit off to me. Mistyrose may have looked better, since it's a bit lighter and seems more subtle, but too late to see now.

What other users have purchased it? I wanna see what other colors people put to see if anyone picked a combination that has the right balance of subtle and not looking out of place with the rest of the post block.

[Zelkova]

Great, now Zelkova is the king of all three. :f4:

I AM ALL THAT IS MAN!

[Eos]

What other users have purchased it? I wanna see what other colors people put to see if anyone picked a combination that has the right balance of subtle and not looking out of place with the rest of the post block.

At those prices? No one. Just as intended.
If you want to play with the colors you should use one of the browsers that lets you tweak the page and experiment. Opera let's you do it from View Source, Chrome lets you do it from Inspect Element, I'm sure other browsers have their own ways too.

[Eos]

Thanks. For outlined font, all you'd need to do is edit the values of the text shadow into something similar to what I did in an earlier post. Just make sure to put a notice that you can only pick either glow or outline, since you can't have both of them simultaneously.

Best attempt at fulfilling this has been made. Countdown till everyone whines about only being able to do it in a single color begins now.

[Khoi]

Best attempt at fulfilling this has been made. Countdown till everyone whines about only being able to do it in a single color begins now.

F`UCKYEAH EOS I LOVE YOU MAN JUST SAYIN

[Rob]

dun get it

Examples please?

[Eos]

Go look at waffles

[Kunagisa]

At those prices? No one. Just as intended.
If you want to play with the colors you should use one of the browsers that lets you tweak the page and experiment. Opera let's you do it from View Source, Chrome lets you do it from Inspect Element, I'm sure other browsers have their own ways too.

Oh, so I was the only one? I could have sworn I saw 2 other people, but those are probably test purchases, right?

And yeah, I was planning on experimenting within my browser, but I'm too much of a lazy bum.


Also, thanks for adding outlines.

[Fiel]

Idea for a feature:

For the font face changes, maybe put in a "quick brown fox jumps" line of text with a javascript thingy attached to the onchange attribute of the combo box would make it a bit more useful, eh.

[Russt]

Oh, so I was the only one? I could have sworn I saw 2 other people, but those are probably test purchases, right?

And yeah, I was planning on experimenting within my browser, but I'm too much of a lazy bum.


Also, thanks for adding outlines.

It does say there are 3 purchases.

[Waffles]

It does say there are 3 purchases.

Not very meaningful if both were me.

[Mute]

Not very meaningful if both were me.

OH GOD BURN IT WITH FIRE WHO THE HELL WOULD THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA OH MY GOD ITS HORRENDOUS MY EYES ACTUALLY CAUGHT HURPIES.

seriously, WT'F man.

[Kunagisa]

OH GOD BURN IT WITH FIRE WHO THE HELL WOULD THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA OH MY GOD ITS HORRENDOUS MY EYES ACTUALLY CAUGHT HURPIES.

seriously, WT'F man.

I actually picked a rather nice color for the background, as Eos pointed out earlier, though it wasn't quite what I wanted. I can tell you that it's not too bad so long as the color isn't horrible. I'd show you, but I need a few hundred more karma to get the amount needed for another background change. Pastel colors work rather nicely, in my opinion.

This is the color I plan to use if I ever get the extra few hundred points (I never purchased any to begin with, actually). Does this look like a bad background color?

I'd probably change the text color to go a bit better with it too. Though, I don't wanna modify my stuff too much. I just want something that pleases my eyes when I read my own posts and such. I never really liked messing with font colors and such, so dunno if I'd actually go through with doing it.

Nah, don't really like how the combination of that looks. Keeping my font black may work well, unless I find a nice shade I was missing before that works well with the background. Meh, nothing I care too much about, but I certainly hope nobody picks a combination like Waffles.

[Eos]

Idea for a feature:

For the font face changes, maybe put in a "quick brown fox jumps" line of text with a javascript thingy attached to the onchange attribute of the combo box would make it a bit more useful, eh.

Your wish has been granted.
Was only doable because the Font Selection template is unique. All the glows and colors share the same screen so trying to make it understand what you're trying to colorize will be a monstrous nuisance for later.

[Kunagisa]

Sample box doesn't seem to be showing any changes whatsoever when I pick an option from the drop-down menu.

[Eos]

Sample box doesn't seem to be showing any changes whatsoever when I pick an option from the drop-down menu.

And your retarded browser is?

[Kunagisa]

And your retarded browser is?

Firefox 3.6.12

I'd test it on other browsers, but I'm actually visiting a relative this weekend from Thanksgiving, so I'm not on my normal computer.

[Eos]

You're probably blocking JS then because it worked just fine on opera, chrome and IE.

[Kunagisa]

You're probably blocking JS then because it worked just fine on opera, chrome and IE.

Already checked that before posting. I'll just try at home then, just wanted to test it out since I've no plans on changing my font face anyway.

[Eos]

Worked on FireFox 3.6.12 on my other dev box.

[Kunagisa]

Worked on FireFox 3.6.12 on my other dev box.

So then don't worry too much about it. Problem on my side that I'm sure nobody else has then. I'll tell you if my home computer experiences any difficulties with it or not.

[Russt]

Chromium 7 checking in, works for me.

[Stereo]

Sorry for exploiting your store, Eos :(

How do I refund this?

[Russt]

My eyes.

[Eos]

Sorry for exploiting your store, Eos :(

How do I refund this?

By clicking "Yes" where it says "Refund: Yes" on the item description before you enter to purchase.



Opera's giving me problems with the dropdown colour menus... I can't see any of the colours except the first one until I do voodoo.

Anyway, for the background-color ones it'd be neat if it would use a colour of your choice for the words in the colour menu (so you can see how it performs)

I did this myself by going into the source and writing

Code:
---------
<select style="color:#a000e0" name="color">
---------
Since obviously I wanted to test it with the colour I post with.

They already have it, opera doesn't support background colors in selects very well. Look via Chrome or another browser that does.

I've added a super-preview-sample functionality to all font pages.

[Stereo]

Ah, that is not at all how I expected it to work.

[Kunagisa]

I've added a super-preview-sample functionality to all font pages.

Sample box works for me now with this update.

[Eos]

Ah, that is not at all how I expected it to work.

I will ban your ass purple if you try one more insertion attack.

[Stereo]

Okay, no more attempts to set arbitrary css on my posts 8|

[Kunagisa]

This may be a tad bit late to bring up, but I feel as if editing the background color of the userinfo rather than the postbody would be less obnoxious in most cases. It may also prevent people from using strange color combination for their username in an attempt to pick a color they like while making sure it's actually visible on the current background color. Stopped being lazy and testing some stuff out client side, and I found that some colors that would look horrible in the postbody don't really bother me as much if it's just shifted over to the userinfo instead. That's not to say they still aren't painful to look at, but at least they seem to fit more with the post.


Edit: Oh, I see you're testing hover effects right now. That seems pretty nice on your name right now.

[Eos]

And also entirely opposite the point.

[Kunagisa]

And also entirely opposite the point.

The point being?

[Eos]

The point being?

To change the background of your posts. Hence it being in the post section.

[Kunagisa]

To change the background of your posts. Hence it being in the post section.

I meant having it as a seperate option.

[Eos]

I can't see very many people actually wanting it. Throw a vote up on it if you like.



Edit: Oh, I see you're testing hover effects right now. That seems pretty nice on your name right now.

Nope. Ignoring hover due to the rework involved. Any hover you see is just your browser's natural behavior.

[Fiel]

For the super sample preview thing, please make the username be 15px to match a real post's 15px. As Kunagisa said, fonts look differently at different sizes.

[Eos]

Done

[Jon]

Can you add a None option on all the preview dropdowns?

[Eos]

Present

[Zelkova]

Eos, something keeps breaking with my user title.

Im unsure if im being a guinea pig, or if the market is simply breaking things on its own.


cool usertitle bro.

<span class='glow_008000' style=' color: #FFFFFF; '>Can I use this now?</span>

[Eos]

Eos, something keeps breaking with my user title.

Im unsure if im being a guinea pig, or if the market is simply breaking things on its own.

Can you be a little specific than "something is wrong"? That's completely inactionable.

[Zelkova]

Can you be a little specific than "something is wrong"? That's completely inactionable.

Um. Occasionally, (meaning twice in the past 2 days) my usertitle had changed from..."Can I use this now?" to <span class='glow_008000' style=' color: #FFFFFF; '>Can I use this now?</span>.

Thats about as specific as I can get.

[Eos]

Haven't seen it. Have you been mixing the market custom title with the set your own title in the user profile?

[Zelkova]

Haven't seen it. Have you been mixing the market custom title with the set your own title in the user profile?

Nope. o.o

Also, every time I have seen it, I quickly fixed it myself.

[Fiel]

Just saw the same error as Zelkova:


http://i53.tinypic.com/soba7a.png



http://i55.tinypic.com/2imgpj.png


Link to affected post (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=35719&page=2)

Link to raw HTML output (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ywyoi4)

I am using Google Chrome 9.0 dev.

[Link]

It happens every single time I make a change to my postbit information. I see the same thing happening to Keith. I haven't noticed it for other users, though.

[Eos]

It's not news (http://www.southperry.net/converse.php?u=2150&u2=2054), I just haven't found a cure or had time to care.

You should recognize what's happening Fiel - Users aren't permitted HTML in their custom titles so it's being deparsed any time they save.
There's no display element associated with titles like there is user names.

[Eos]

This should be corrected now. Users can set their titles back as they please.

Title modifications won't be visible on user profile page for now, only in posts.