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Eos
2010-11-16, 08:41 PM
You should now see the Market tab on your screen, assuming you're a registered user and not a stinky lurker dwelling on the fringe of society (Join us, we bathe!).


The Market tab is experimental. It may have issues, it may hiccup and eat your family. It may regurgitate small children and myriad woodland critters. Use at your own use risk. Reasonable attempts will be made to fix anything it does but if it goes on a murderous rampage, steals your credit card and buys a yacht and then sails away to Aruba without me you may have to settle for a "Sorry".
Because of #1 features/options may appear/disappear or cease functioning sporadically while being worked on.
I've had to rewrite a lot of it because I suspect the author was a lemur on crack. The bits I was able to test now work. No earthly idea if the most basic function, charging $$$, actually works because it violates the TOS to charge money to myself but the test api seemed OK. If you buy karma, get charged, but don't see any points PM me.


Now on to the important stuff - Operating the bloody thing.

Two flavors of points, Karma and SPP (Southperry Points, duh). The first you buy, the second you will be able to earn through various in forum events and activities slated to begin in 2011 (FYI some of those events will come with a choice of SPP or NX).
To charge karma click on the very large "Purchase some Karma (http://www.southperry.net/market_convert.php)" link on the "Your Information" section. Do not close the browser window before Paypal finishes sending you back to Southperry or you will NOT get credit for your purchase
To see how much you've purchased in the past click on the numeric indicator of your current karma in "Your Information" section.
To see your purchase history click on the numeric indicator of your total purchases in the "Your Information" section.
To donate Karma (not, SPP) to another user you may use the "Other users" category.
For items that a refund is available on you may click the Yes on the item screen where it says "Item Refundable: Yes" to initiate a refund. This may lose you some of the points you spent as a forfeit. Time limit to request a refund is 24 hours. This is the only way to turn off a purchased feature at this time and it may not quite work. Some features will appear to still be active for a while after refunding due to caching. Others may just outright ignore the fact you got a refund and continue working anyway. Needs more testing.



That said, knock yourselves out.

Corn
2010-11-16, 08:44 PM
Southperry...events?

:shine:

Solarboy
2010-11-16, 08:45 PM
Preety amazing eos, just would be nice to know how exactly one gains karma, seeing as I allready have some.

Besides buying of course.

edit: nvm, they disapeared.

Also, since donators have a red username, can we get a name color refund?

Locked
2010-11-16, 08:46 PM
Most Steal Attempts: Fiel.

Nice feature even though.. I can't use it.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 08:49 PM
I charged
I go to buy user title glow

i die a little inside...

Eos
2010-11-16, 08:51 PM
Preety amazing eos, just would be nice to know how exactly one gains karma, seeing as I allready have some.

Leftover feature from the point system Fiel had installed. Everyone was reset to 0 a moment ago.


Also, since donators have a red username, can we get a name color refund?
Nope. For right now your existing donor package is what you've already spent. The colored title is just a default feature of being in the Donator class you're in.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 08:52 PM
Everyone was reset to 0 a moment ago.


Was this after I charged Karma?

Eos
2010-11-16, 08:53 PM
Was this after I charged Karma?

Trying to figure that out now actually.
Cause it either didn't work, or yes.

Link
2010-11-16, 08:54 PM
There's no way to preview your username if you wish to change its color/glow? :S I guess you would have to refund it a lot if you wish to get a good match. lolol

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 08:55 PM
I wanted to be the first sucker XD

Fiel
2010-11-16, 08:56 PM
@Zelkova - you can always use Stealth Donor.

Link
2010-11-16, 08:56 PM
I wanted to be the first sucker XD

I can't wait to see what it looks like. :3

What color are you getting, Keith?

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 08:57 PM
I can't wait to see what it looks like. :3

What color are you getting, Keith?

Contemplating Dark Red and Blue. o.o

Eos
2010-11-16, 08:58 PM
I wanted to be the first sucker XD


Didn't succeed at that.

cid|userid|date|point1_field|charge_field|fee|set_ amount|confirmed|username|Timestamp
3|5275|1289961784|ucash||5|5000|0|Solarboy|2010-11-16 21:42:40
4|6390|1289961850|ucash||5|5000|0|yeahsureokuhhuh| 2010-11-16 21:43:46
5|5555|1289961960|ucash||10|10000|0|Zelkova|2010-11-16 21:45:36
6|259|1289962233|ucash||5|5000|0|Darkmaniak|2010-11-16 21:50:09
7|535|1289962576|ucash||5|5000|0|JoeTang|2010-11-16 21:55:52


Doesn't look like it's successfully setting the amounts even though it's logging them.

The confirmed = 0 bit concerns me. Then again out of the ones in that list only yours has actually triggered a paypal verification email.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 08:59 PM
I didnt succeed. Damn...

Also, user title glow kills donor red o.o

Yeah I got a paypal email, my phone beeped XD

Corn
2010-11-16, 09:03 PM
Ewww, that looks ugly.

Eos
2010-11-16, 09:04 PM
Are a lot of you trying the charge but not actually doing it? Because paypal isn't showing any of the attempts but Zelkova's even though the log is going haywire with attempts.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-16, 09:04 PM
Awww, I saw that the buy with SPP option wasn't greyed out and thought I could get free gold donor status. I need me 1500 PM limit for no real reason!

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 09:10 PM
I wasnt the first to charge, but I was the first to break things. I WIN!?!

Eos
2010-11-16, 09:11 PM
I wasnt the first to charge, but I was the first to break things. I WIN!?!

You werent the first to attempt to charge, but were the first to actually charge.

Now I just have to figure out why it failed to credit you. :f7:

Link
2010-11-16, 09:11 PM
I wasnt the first to charge, but I was the first to break things. I WIN!?!

Yes. You win your donation status being taken away and all of your market privelages revoked.


I'm now interested in what events you speak of where we can win Southperry Points.

Solarboy
2010-11-16, 09:13 PM
I'm now interested in what events you speak of where we can win Southperry Points.

Or NX. I am quite curious myself too.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 09:13 PM
Take a look at my refund log. I have refunded glow twice, but it isnt removed.

Im happy to be a guinea pig.

Eos
2010-11-16, 09:14 PM
oooo
This one triggered.


cid|userid|date|point1_field|charge_field|fee|set_ amount|confirmed|username|Timestamp
13|4457|1289963561|ucash||25|30000|1|ThatWasMyKil| 2010-11-16 22:12:17



It even sent the appropriate PM.



Point Market Payment Received
This is an automatic private message notification generated by the Point Market system. ThatWasMyKil has purchased points through paypal in the amount of 25.


And credited.

Clearly Zel did something wrong. Hacker!

ThatWasMyKil
2010-11-16, 09:15 PM
im glowing like keith now :D

Locked
2010-11-16, 09:15 PM
Im happy to be a guinea pig.

Can't expect a working feature without testing it first. ;p

Link
2010-11-16, 09:15 PM
Or NX. I am quite curious myself too.

The NX option is inert for me, unfortunately. D: They would have to buy over-priced webmoney. :<


Nice green name, Keith.

Um... I see no glowing? It seems to not be compatible with Internet Explorer. D:

Eos
2010-11-16, 09:17 PM
It seems to not be compatible with Internet Explorer. D:

It specifically says that in the purchase screen, yes.

Sarah
2010-11-16, 09:18 PM
Hey Zelkova, I think someone sneezed on your username.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 09:18 PM
justin, check to see if you have 1 karma ^^
you too spidey.



Hey Zelkova, I think someone sneezed on your username.
*bites*

Link
2010-11-16, 09:18 PM
It specifically says that in the purchase screen, yes.

Oh. I don't know how to read. Oh, well. Back to FireFox I go!


Lol! Thanks, Keith. :P

Solarboy
2010-11-16, 09:19 PM
The NX option is inert for me, unfortunately. D: They would have to buy over-priced webmoney. :<


Nice green name, Keith.

Um... I see no glowing? It seems to not be compatible with Internet Explorer. D:

Are you using IE?

ThatWasMyKil
2010-11-16, 09:21 PM
user titles kinda work :?

Link
2010-11-16, 09:24 PM
Your glowing usernames are badass. -jealous-


Eos, this market system is genius. Good work on implementing it here!

Solarboy
2010-11-16, 09:25 PM
Awesome! I got 1 karma!

I did get the messsage. So that works fine.

Eos
2010-11-16, 09:26 PM
Your glowing usernames are badass. -jealous-


Eos, this market system is genius. Good work on implementing it here!

More like barely implementing it here. So much about it is just outright defective. The refund system being issue #1.
It looks like the 'multiple point systems' feature is jacked too because it's crying NSF on my test account that's loaded with SPP but lacks Karma.

:f5:

ImagineAll
2010-11-16, 09:26 PM
The custom user titles beneath their IDs are showing up in code. To clarify: the people who have changed their user titles to have the glow feature.

I'll give this a go when it's more functional. Right now seems a little too buggy for me to try it out.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 09:27 PM
More like barely implementing it here. So much about it is just outright defective. The refund system being issue #1.
It looks like the 'multiple point systems' feature is jacked too because it's crying NSF on my test account that's loaded with SPP but lacks Karma.

:f5:

Your day never ends, does it?

★★★★★
2010-11-16, 09:31 PM
ohai!

errr...


my name is supposed to be orange XD

ThatWasMyKil
2010-11-16, 09:32 PM
He's an Elf they don't need sleep.

Get back to coding code monkey!

Link
2010-11-16, 09:32 PM
Refunding is only 50&#37;ish? :S

No going back if you screw up. LOL

Cyadd
2010-11-16, 09:35 PM
WTF is this shit? I thought we weren't going to go the way of Sleepywood. Watch, next we'll be able to make rainbows the backgrounds of our posts and shit that went on at Sleepywood.

Link
2010-11-16, 09:36 PM
WTF is this shit? I thought we weren't going to go the way of Sleepywood. Watch, next we'll be able to make rainbows the backgrounds of our posts and shit that went on at Sleepywood.

Oh, hell no. Rainbow usernames? F'UCK YES. Post backgrounds? Too far, man... Too far! That's one thing I absolutely hated about the aesthetics of Sleepywood. It was absolutely disgusting.

Corn
2010-11-16, 09:36 PM
WTF is this shit? I thought we weren't going to go the way of Sleepywood. Watch, next we'll be able to make rainbows the backgrounds of our posts and shit that went on at Sleepywood.

Look on the bright side, you'll be able to get more red into your posts.

madanthony
2010-11-16, 09:38 PM
I find it strange that karma is purchased and points are earned. That seems backwards.

Is there any way for Amazon.com purchases through SP to give the user karma? Maybe some time in the future.

Solarboy
2010-11-16, 09:40 PM
I find it strange that karma is purchased and points are earned. That seems backwards.

You do good for southperry (purchase) and you get good stuff (karma)

Cyadd
2010-11-16, 09:45 PM
Look on the bright side, you'll be able to get more red into your posts.

You think?

Eos
2010-11-16, 09:48 PM
Is there any way for Amazon.com purchases through SP to give the user karma? Maybe some time in the future.

See the Amazon thread for the repeatedly pointing out I have no way to identify who purchased what.

Kalovale
2010-11-16, 09:58 PM
> most steal attempts

lol'd

Link
2010-11-16, 09:59 PM
Paul is the pirate of Southperry.


My colors are all screwed up. I refunded my color because I thought I could switch to another, but why haven't I lost it? Every time I click on a thread, I get it back, but when I post, it disappears. When I'm searching, like when I click "New Posts," it switches back to just red, but every time I enter any thread, it changes to the dark red glow + blue text.

http://imgur.com/8dK0c.png

Kunagisa
2010-11-16, 10:00 PM
How do you attempt to steal? Like, place and order and cancel your Paypal payment?

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:00 PM
It looks like my payment credited again. >< B> Green posts...

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:02 PM
How do you attempt to steal? Like, place and order and cancel your Paypal payment?

No stealing refers to taking points from other users.
Its an idiotic 'user a spends x points for y chance to steal z points from user b' and it's disabled because it's idiotic, hence Fiel will always be in the #1 position, being user #1.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:03 PM
It looks like my payment credited again. >< B> Green posts...

Are you using a popup blocker or something? It's odd that the other users are crediting and you're not.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:05 PM
Are you using a popup blocker or something? It's odd that the other users are crediting and you're not.

No. I am just using Chrome Canary Build. Maybe its blocking popups?

I got my email saying the payment went through, but beyond that nothing else has happened.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:07 PM
Are you closing the window before paypal refers it back to the site?

(ie: before paypal tells the site your payment was processed and therefore can be credited)

Solarboy
2010-11-16, 10:07 PM
That's werid, The 1 karma mykill gifted me suddenly dissapeared.

Kunagisa
2010-11-16, 10:07 PM
Justin asked earlier, but I take it there's no way to implement a preview before the purchase, is there?

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:09 PM
Are you closing the window before paypal refers it back to the site?

(ie: before paypal tells the site your payment was processed and therefore can be credited)

..........I have a bad habit. My bad.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:09 PM
That's werid, The 1 karma mykill gifted me suddenly dissapeared.

me again. Mistook it for the old system still randomly crediting :f3:


Justin asked earlier, but I take it there's no way to implement a preview before the purchase, is there?

Now? No. Later? Maybe. Note the list of crippling issues ahead of "I wanna see it before I buy it" and guess where it falls on the priority list.


..........I have a bad habit. My bad.

facepalm.jpg

Added that witty observation to the instructions.

Sarah
2010-11-16, 10:10 PM
You should probably note that spending money on this system doesn't mean you'll get away with stuff, getting banned forfeits your right to a refund, etc, etc.

Khoi
2010-11-16, 10:11 PM
Thanks to you-know-who for the Karma points. Haha.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:13 PM
You should probably note that spending money on this system doesn't mean you'll get away with stuff, getting banned forfeits your right to a refund, etc, etc.

A bit redundant.


IV. Donor Policy
--> A. Power
All donors have the power of incentives given to them as determined by the administrators of this forum. These incentives are privileges, not rights. All registered users have the power to donate to this website and become a donor. By donating to this website, that registered user may receive a thanks in return by receiving certain incentives as granted by the administrator of this forum. All donations are non-refundable.

--> B. Equal Treatment
Donors must respect all rules and regulations of this document. Donors, as users of this website, will be treated with the same set of rules as any registered user because they are registered users. Failure to follow the rules and regulations in this document may result in a ban and he shall subsequently be removed of all donor privileges.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:13 PM
facepalm.jpg

Added that witty observation to the instructions.

You have to make the system retard proof. Who better to test it on?

Sarah
2010-11-16, 10:15 PM
A bit redundant.

No one reads the R&R

Also it doesn't have any clause in regards to the refunds on this system which you appear to be doing.

Sarah
2010-11-16, 10:17 PM
Double posting because you've probably already read / began to reply to the last post in your typical ninja style but UGH

This bypasses the "turn off user font modifications" option. Do not want to see people typing in colour.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:17 PM
You have to make the system retard proof. Who better to test it on?

Considering I just figured out why your user title is jacked up I think the author of this addon was the perfect candidate for testing and yet still failed to find this stuff.

Link
2010-11-16, 10:17 PM
I'm still confused as to why I'm still showing up with the glow when I've accidentally refunded it.

...Which brings me to my next point. Is there any way you can make the refund 100&#37;? I mean, with the SouthPerry Points, I can see there being a refund rate of being 50%, but with the paid-for points, it seems weird to have it less than 100% - especially if you screw up like I did. lol

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:19 PM
Double posting because you've probably already read / began to reply to the last post in your typical ninja style but UGH

This bypasses the "turn off user font modifications" option. Do not want to see people typing in colour.

Yes I know. Trying to make the two work together is what resulted in everything breaking. I gave up caring about that feature since it's not being paid for.
Later i'll introduce a 100$ 'turn off everyone elses mods' options and only let it be bought by three people via a bidding system.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:19 PM
I'm still confused as to why I'm still showing up with the glow when I've accidentally refunded it

read the very last bullet?

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:20 PM
only let it be bought by three people via a bidding system.


A fight to the death I say! :monocle:

Corn
2010-11-16, 10:21 PM
I'm still confused as to why I'm still showing up with the glow when I've accidentally refunded it.

...Which brings me to my next point. Is there any way you can make the refund 100&#37;? I mean, with the SouthPerry Points, I can see there being a refund rate of being 50&#37;, but with the paid-for points, it seems weird to have it less than 100% - especially if you screw up like I did. lol

Say an XBOX, PS3, and Wii all cost the same price.

Guy plays Wii for a month. He gets bored. He exchanges his Wii for an XBox. Plays that for 2 months. Gets bored. Exchanges that for a PS3.

He's not paying any additional money for them.

Get my drift?

Sarah
2010-11-16, 10:22 PM
Yes I know. Trying to make the two work together is what resulted in everything breaking. I gave up caring about that feature since it's not being paid for.
Later i'll introduce a 100$ 'turn off everyone elses mods' options and only let it be bought by three people via a bidding system.

I wish you'd said this was the reason before I lobbied FOR the market system.

I change my vote to against.

ThatWasMyKil
2010-11-16, 10:23 PM
We have R&R?!


Also do i need to buy the gold donor thing again or is it carried over?

Kurtle
2010-11-16, 10:24 PM
SO MUCH OVERKILL.

SP IS ON FIRE

Link
2010-11-16, 10:25 PM
Say an XBOX, PS3, and Wii all cost the same price.

Guy plays Wii for a month. He gets bored. He exchanges his Wii for an XBox. Plays that for 2 months. Gets bored. Exchanges that for a PS3.

He's not paying any additional money for them.

Get my drift?

That's not quite the same. An item can be damaged -- pixels can't (well, technically...).

Corn
2010-11-16, 10:25 PM
I wish you'd said this was the reason before I lobbied FOR the market system.

I change my vote to against.

SP is technically a dictatorship, so you can't really lobby.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:26 PM
That's not quite the same. An item can be damaged -- pixels can't (well, technically...).

Missingthepoint

If you could just...refund 100&#37; of your money you spent, then there would be almost no reason for you to continue to charge.

For example:
You could just refund your color change once a day, and change it back.

Kunagisa
2010-11-16, 10:29 PM
Say an XBOX, PS3, and Wii all cost the same price.

Guy plays Wii for a month. He gets bored. He exchanges his Wii for an XBox. Plays that for 2 months. Gets bored. Exchanges that for a PS3.

He's not paying any additional money for them.

Get my drift?

Not the best analogy. That's what the 24 hour limit is for, and most stores allow you a refund within 24 hours or 1 week or whatever. Though, you may have a hard time if it's opened already, and you'll certainly not be getting your money back if there's physical evidence of you breaking it, but the point is you're usually granted a refund within a short period of time.

Having a 24 hour limit AND only 50&#37; refund seems a bit excessive to me, but at the same time I don't feel it's an issue that needs too much looking into. Especially when it can be abused by constant refunds every 23 hours. I'd suggest a system where the 24 hour refund period restricts the actual value of the points rather than the purchase itself, but that'd obviously be quite a lot of unnecessary work. What I mean is, you spend 1k points, and those 1k points can be refunded within 24 hours. You can make however many purchases you want with those 1k points for 24 hours, and test stuff out, but by the end of 24 hours those points stay wherever you placed them.

Swerve
2010-11-16, 10:35 PM
This looks so awesome. I'm going to donate and get my name in black with red devil horns and a naked devil chick with fire shooting out of her breasts. For some reason this feature reminds me of Ryan Reynolds winning the Emmy for his superb acting skills as Deadpool in Wolverine Origins with all the mutant powers that looked like they were all special effects.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:36 PM
B> Paypal time machine ._.


This looks so awesome. I'm going to donate and get my name in black with red devil horns and a naked devil chick with fire shooting out of her breasts.

That just sounds horrible.

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:36 PM
This bypasses the "turn off user font modifications" option. Do not want to see people typing in colour.

Is your life complete now?

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:37 PM
Also do i need to buy the gold donor thing again or is it carried over?

It was carried over.

Khoi
2010-11-16, 10:37 PM
Username-glow + color has been on message boards for.. God knows how long, I'm just more-so surprised that it would be considered as a implementation on SP. Inb4massivelylargeavatars and posts with background images.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:40 PM
Username-glow + color has been on message boards for.. God knows how long, I'm just more-so surprised that it would be considered as a implementation on SP. Inb4massivelylargeavatars and posts with background images.

Im quite content with what we have. Glows might get a little tacky (like mine now), but avatar size is perfect and who would want background images? ><

Link
2010-11-16, 10:40 PM
Username-glow + color has been on message boards for.. God knows how long, I'm just more-so surprised that it would be considered as a implementation on SP.

Yeah, I used to use them for admins and moderators on the old forums I used to make. lol

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:41 PM
Yeah, I used to use them for admins and moderators on the old forums I used to make. lol

LOL YOUR FORUM. I laugh every time you link me to it XD

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:41 PM
Im quite content with what we have. Glows might get a little tacky (like mine now), but avatar size is perfect and who would want background images? ><

Avatar sizes are staying as is more or less but the background images are under consideration. The big problem there is hosting the images and verifying them blah blah blah.
They'd be blocked by the user font stripper, or by an option to turn them off.

Sarah
2010-11-16, 10:42 PM
Is your life complete now?

Oh thank Eos.

Zelkova
2010-11-16, 10:43 PM
Avatar sizes are staying as is more or less but the background images are under consideration. The big problem there is hosting the images and verifying them blah blah blah.
They'd be blocked by the user font stripper, or by an option to turn them off.

Vanilla please. ><

ThatWasMyKil
2010-11-16, 10:53 PM
Avatar sizes are staying as is more or less but the background images are under consideration. The big problem there is hosting the images and verifying them blah blah blah.
They'd be blocked by the user font stripper, or by an option to turn them off.

turn them on off pls

Also can you add black to the font Colours? or a revert back to default

Eos
2010-11-16, 10:59 PM
turn them on off pls

Also can you add black to the font Colours? or a revert back to default

again see last bullet and priorities list

Kalovale
2010-11-16, 11:18 PM
Oh thank Eos.

Dittoing. I always wanted to maintain a certain level of respect for people's uniqueness, but this sh'it has gotten outta hands, at least my hands.

Killed
2010-11-16, 11:19 PM
sure is another site up in hur

Berzerk
2010-11-16, 11:49 PM
Question, why do I have a 20&#37; discount? Not complaining, just curious.

Swerve
2010-11-16, 11:49 PM
SO MUCH OVERKILL.

Killing a bird seems fairly mundane, however with Southperry overkill effects...

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff10/screens/overkill.jpg

Supah pahti! Fantastic spahkaru! Let's gooh nambah waan!

Eos
2010-11-16, 11:53 PM
Question, why do I have a 20&#37; discount? Not complaining, just curious.

Purchasing one of the donor levels unlocks a permanent discount as part of their benefits.

Infection
2010-11-17, 12:08 AM
This bypasses the "turn off user font modifications" option. Do not want to see people typing in colour.
Is your life complete now?

Not working for me for some reason.

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:09 AM
Not working for me for some reason.

You'll have to elaborate.

Infection
2010-11-17, 12:09 AM
Turning on 'Turn off user font modifications' etc. doesn't turn off glows, colored thread titles, etc.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4085446/nope.png

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:12 AM
Turning on 'Turn off user font modifications' etc. doesn't turn off glows, colored thread titles, etc.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4085446/nope.png

Considering it has only ever turned off modifications within posts, why would you expect it to do otherwise now?

Sarah
2010-11-17, 12:13 AM
Doesn't really need to. That stuff is a little obnoxious but it's not as bad as each post being a different colour, and that's been resolved.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 12:26 AM
Glows are worst than Eosian's rainbow.

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 12:28 AM
Glows are worst than Eosian's rainbow.

Do the glows hurt your eyes more than light names on a light background?

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:29 AM
Glows are worst than Eosian's rainbow.

Wait until I convert my rainbow to a character glow. You will choke on those words.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 12:30 AM
Wait until I convert my rainbow to a character glow. You will choke on those words.

You better add an option to ignore staff members before you start that. I am already going to have to ultra ignore Zel, Kill, Shi and Omni. Oh well, I am glad you added ultra ignore before this junk.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 12:31 AM
Wait until I convert my rainbow to a character glow. You will choke on those words.

ROR


You better add an option to ignore staff members before you start that. I am already going to have to ultra ignore Zel, Kill and Omni. Oh well, I am glad you added ultra ignore before this junk.

I hate you too. D: *goes to my sad corner*

iamflip
2010-11-17, 12:34 AM
I stopped reading the first post after Southperry Events. :poast:

But really... really neat features. :) Prices for some items seems a bit... high though.

Locked
2010-11-17, 12:35 AM
Guess it's time for me to ignore users for the first time ever. :goggle:

Mike
2010-11-17, 12:43 AM
Are colors that much of an inconvenience to some of you? They are annoying, but I wouldn't ignore the users.

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:45 AM
You better add an option to ignore staff members before you start that.



ROR


Too late. Bask in my aura of rainbowness.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 12:48 AM
Too late. Bask in my aura of rainbowness.

Dear Eos, I had an eyegasm.

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:49 AM
Dear Eos, I had an eyegasm.

They make cremes for that.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 12:52 AM
Too late. Bask in my aura of rainbowness.

I am not choking on my words. Yours is actually enjoyable compared to those other "people".

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 12:54 AM
I am not choking on my words. Yours is actually enjoyable compared to those other "people".

>< Dammit glow.

Link
2010-11-17, 12:56 AM
You better add an option to ignore staff members before you start that. I am already going to have to ultra ignore Zel, Kill, Shi and Omni. Oh well, I am glad you added ultra ignore before this junk.

Don't worry. Mine is most likely going to be gone soon. I THOUGHT I would have a Dark Red background with a normal red text, which looks awesome, by the way (you can put your mouse over my name and it'll show what it should look like), but it made the text blue instead... So, I tried returning it, but it only gave me 50&#37; back, which wasn't enough to change it to another color. Eventually, I'll be back to pure red. :S

Eos
2010-11-17, 01:02 AM
Don't worry. Mine is most likely going to be gone soon. I THOUGHT I would have a Dark Red background with a normal red text, which looks awesome, by the way (you can put your mouse over my name and it'll show what it should look like), but it made the text blue instead... So, I tried returning it, but it only gave me 50&#37; back, which wasn't enough to change it to another color. Eventually, I'll be back to pure red. :S

I gave everyone who had some a little boost due to the refund issues and adjusted the refund rates based on donor status similar to the way the discounts work.
There is no way to undo an option entirely just yet but you can play with it more now :f3:. Hopefully tomorrow I'll untangle that particular mess.

Link
2010-11-17, 01:04 AM
I gave everyone who had some a little boost due to the refund issues and adjusted the refund rates based on donor status similar to the way the discounts work.
There is no way to undo an option entirely just yet but you can play with it more now :f3:. Hopefully tomorrow I'll untangle that particular mess.

Oh! Freaking sweet! Thank you, Eos! <3

Now my name looks a lot better. :3

Now only if a black glow were available. I bet that would look good on a lot of colors.

Hanabira.Kage
2010-11-17, 05:17 AM
Too late. Bask in my aura of rainbowness.


Boy, am I glad it doesn't work on IE. :f2:

EDIT: Uhh, I just had a look through the Market and...it seems that most of the text overlaps with the pictures...or is it just a problem with IE?

TøbiasBlack
2010-11-17, 06:40 AM
Uhh...
Yes I'm aware i no longer post on this account, but gotta ask (once i saw the market thinger was up i wanted to check), why does this account not have any karma/points, w/e, was it overlooked? more importantly: why's it say i've never donated?

Eos
2010-11-17, 07:02 AM
Boy, am I glad it doesn't work on IE. :f2:

EDIT: Uhh, I just had a look through the Market and...it seems that most of the text overlaps with the pictures...or is it just a problem with IE?

Yep.
The author was not IE friendly. Although it depends on version.


Uhh...
Yes I'm aware i no longer post on this account, but gotta ask (once i saw the market thinger was up i wanted to check), why does this account not have any karma/points, w/e, was it overlooked? more importantly: why's it say i've never donated?

Because you've never donated on this system and you wouldn't have any point balance because for all intents and purposes it was already spent on your current level of donator status.

No one was credited with points for having already been a donor. When it's more stable and works right active donors may receive some spending points.

Mute
2010-11-17, 07:33 AM
Ah okay, isnt retroactive.
Danku for that clarification.

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 10:06 AM
Wait until I convert my rainbow to a character glow. You will choke on those words.

Oh god, you were serious.

Eos
2010-11-17, 10:10 AM
Oh god, you were serious.

And sparkly.

Mute
2010-11-17, 10:13 AM
Hey Eos...
I'm using (on this computer) Firefox 3.0.19, and the glowing aura is altogether invisible. I can see that your username is no longer those bold letters in the boxes and now has a thinner, more streamlined appearance, and I can see that some users names are different colors (khoi/spidey are pink, zel is green, etc). I'll assume the issue is on my end, but what do you think it'd be?

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 10:14 AM
I gave everyone who had some a little boost due to the refund issues and adjusted the refund rates based on donor status similar to the way the discounts work.
There is no way to undo an option entirely just yet but you can play with it more now :f3:. Hopefully tomorrow I'll untangle that particular mess.

*Drools all over the fucking place*

HOLY SHIT THANK YOU!

Eos
2010-11-17, 10:23 AM
I'll assume the issue is on my end, but what do you think it'd be?

Your browser doesn't support the text-shadow (http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/text-shadow)attribute.

Stereo
2010-11-17, 11:52 AM
Rainbow text is hilarious and totally worth like 20 bucks.

Mute
2010-11-17, 12:09 PM
Your browser doesn't support the text-shadow (http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/text-shadow)attribute.

thought that might be a reason, dang outdated technology. danku.
-fixes-

Khoi
2010-11-17, 12:32 PM
I gave everyone who had some a little boost due to the refund issues and adjusted the refund rates based on donor status similar to the way the discounts work.
There is no way to undo an option entirely just yet but you can play with it more now :f3:. Hopefully tomorrow I'll untangle that particular mess.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/full_635ff2f18e7e29c1b8c2bebe6e4e50ad.gif

Thanks, Eos!

Fiel
2010-11-17, 12:35 PM
Description:
Users with color changes do not reflect those color changes everywhere.

Procedure:
1. Choose a person with a color change for the name.
2. View that person's profile page.
3. No color change is present.

Expected:
The color change should be universal.

Priority:
Medium

Example: Khoi (http://www.southperry.net/member.php?u=5607)

Mute
2010-11-17, 12:36 PM
Description:
Users with color changes do not reflect those color changes everywhere.

Procedure:
1. Choose a person with a color change for the name.
2. View that person's profile page.
3. No color change is present.

Expected:
The color change should be universal.

Priority:
Medium

don't even need to go to their userpage, just look at the "Who's Online" box; the user modifications do not show there as well.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 12:41 PM
Rainbow text is hilarious and totally worth like 20 bucks.

I will always be better, and the first one who did it on the forum. So Eosian and and ginger kid two and go suck it! D=

Anyway, how much have you made off this thing so far?

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:43 PM
Anyway, how much have you made off this thing so far?

$94.37


Description:
Users with color changes do not reflect those color changes everywhere.


Nope, it's specifically exempt there and "working as intended". There's a list of where it does and doesn't effect. I haven't gotten around to tweaking it.
I'm more concerned with why it jacks up in PM replies.

Khoi
2010-11-17, 12:44 PM
Description:
Users with color changes do not reflect those color changes everywhere.

Procedure:
1. Choose a person with a color change for the name.
2. View that person's profile page.
3. No color change is present.

Expected:
The color change should be universal.

Priority:
Medium

Example: Khoi (http://www.southperry.net/member.php?u=5607)

Noticed this a while back, I forgot if Eos mentioned whether we'll see the color-modifications everywhere or not, but it is kinda weird not seeing my name in the right color at times.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 12:44 PM
Nope, it's specifically exempt there and "working as intended". There's a list of where it does and doesn't effect. I haven't gotten around to tweaking it.
I'm more concerned with why it jacks up in PM replies.

You and I PMed easily last night, did we not?

Eos
2010-11-17, 12:49 PM
Noticed this a while back, I forgot if Eos mentioned whether we'll see the color-modifications everywhere or not, but it is kinda weird not seeing my name in the right color at times.

http://www.southperry.net/images/personal/caveats.png


You and I PMed easily last night, did we not?

Nope, I had to take the HTML out of your "To" field every reply. That's what I was trying to track down.

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 12:59 PM
Inb4 Online Notification icon change option, post background images, animated text, and personal .wav sounds that play when you hover someone's post.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 12:59 PM
$94.37

Hahahahahaha, oh God, oh wow!

By the way, I wish two things to be added to the shop when you have the time. 1. Ability to ignore staff members. 2. And. . . uh. . . well I forgot the second thing I would be willing to buy. But ignoring staff members is something I would be willing to buy for real monies.

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 01:00 PM
Hahahahahaha, oh God, oh wow!

By the way, I wish two things to be added to the shop when you have the time. 1. Ability to ignore staff members. 2. And. . . uh. . . well I forgot the second thing I would be willing to buy. But ignoring staff members is something I would be willing to buy for real monies.

The option to ignore yourself?

Eos
2010-11-17, 01:01 PM
But ignoring staff members is something I would be willing to buy for real monies.

Won't be happening.
Mods are not someone you want to be able to not see instructions from because when you then get infracted for doing something everyone was warned not to the whining is unbearable.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 01:06 PM
The option to ignore yourself?

No.


Won't be happening.
Mods are not someone you want to be able to see instructions from because when you then get infracted for doing something everyone was warned not to the whining is unbearable.

Price it for 1000 dollars and I'll be the only person who buys it, okay? That good for you brobear?

Eos
2010-11-17, 01:07 PM
Price it for 1000 dollars and I'll be the only person who buys it, okay? That good for you brobear?

I think you're mistaking me for Adura.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 01:28 PM
I think you're mistaking me for Adura.

Brobear? Adura = blackbrobear, you = redbrobear. Or if you're referring to me trying to buy you off then I guess I'll spend this money burning a hole in my pocket on those stupid starving orphans in that stupid orphanage close to me and their stupid Thanksgiving instead.

You heartless bastard making me spend money on orphans instead of eating them and throwing my money on something completely worthless. My post is more serious than you might think however, I would be willing to pay an absurd amount just to ignore one person who just happens to be a staff member.

butterfλi
2010-11-17, 01:41 PM
I think you're mistaking me for Adura.

And you've mistaken Adura for someone else... that is unless MetaSeraphim has already sent you some nudes.

Khoi
2010-11-17, 01:41 PM
Where dem nudes at?

Eos
2010-11-17, 01:43 PM
And you've mistaken Adura for someone else... that is unless MetaSeraphim has already sent you some nudes.

A person with a price is a person with a price regardless of what form the currency takes.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 01:49 PM
And you've mistaken Adura for someone else... that is unless MetaSeraphim has already sent you some nudes.

Do want.

Fiel
2010-11-17, 01:52 PM
Two flavors of points, Karma and SPP (Southperry Points, duh). The first you buy, the second you will be able to earn through various in forum events and activities slated to begin in 2011 (FYI some of those events will come with a choice of SPP or NX).

trollface.jpg

Surely you mean Karma? Or do you really mean NX?

Eos
2010-11-17, 01:54 PM
trollface.jpg

Surely you mean Karma? Or do you really mean NX?

No, I meant NX.

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 02:15 PM
No, I meant NX.

So one prize comes right from your pocket while the other costs you nothing? I know which prize I'm picking if I win.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 02:23 PM
So one prize comes right from your pocket while the other costs you nothing? I know which prize I'm picking if I win.

http://msavatar1.nexon.net/Character/INEFCHLCHEGJEMEFEHOOKLDLBNAPEBBOIHIMBFAMJKMMODGNJO JFDGFNENIOGHJCJLEBEFALFHGONKJLIGHNBLAJHKIGNABF.gif

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 02:28 PM
http://msavatar1.nexon.net/Character/INEFCHLCHEGJEMEFEHOOKLDLBNAPEBBOIHIMBFAMJKMMODGNJO JFDGFNENIOGHJCJLEBEFALFHGONKJLIGHNBLAJHKIGNABF.gif

Yeah, I haven't played in a while. I logged on a few months ago for the free AP resets and logged off, so my NX set expired as soon as I got on. That was before perma-sets were out. Only my hat and care are perma, the rest poofed.

When I get back for Big Bang I'll buy everything again.

Also, why the hell does GMS not have Female face 27 yet? Don't they want my money?

Eos
2010-11-17, 02:32 PM
So one prize comes right from your pocket while the other costs you nothing? I know which prize I'm picking if I win.

Too many people don't play any Nexon games, may as well give the choice of something they can use or transfer if they want.
Amazon gift cards and Ultimate Game Cards were also considered.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 02:50 PM
Yeah, I haven't played in a while. I logged on a few months ago for the free AP resets and logged off, so my NX set expired as soon as I got on. That was before perma-sets were out. Only my hat and care are perma, the rest poofed.

When I get back for Big Bang I'll buy everything again.

Also, why the hell does GMS not have Female face 27 yet? Don't they want my money?

If you want anything else thats perma, you better take action.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 02:56 PM
And you've mistaken Adura for someone else... that is unless MetaSeraphim has already sent you some nudes.

It's not like he would give me anything for them anyway with him being gay and all.

Kunagisa
2010-11-17, 04:12 PM
If you want anything else thats perma, you better take action.

What do you mean? Don't tell me no more perma after Big Bang.

Edit - Don't wanna derail the thread so just answer on my comments.

Solarboy
2010-11-17, 04:16 PM
What do you mean? Don't tell me no more perma after Big Bang.

Edit - Don't wanna derail the thread so just answer on my comments.

The permanent option will be gone after November.

Damn you Nexon.

xBTAx
2010-11-17, 04:27 PM
Suggestion: make things expire after 3 months.

Think about it.

Jon
2010-11-17, 04:30 PM
Suggestion: make things expire after 3 months.

Think about it.


Damn you Nexon.

c

Rayquaza2233
2010-11-17, 07:00 PM
Are mods supposed to get a 100&#37; discount on karma?

Eos
2010-11-17, 07:11 PM
Are mods supposed to get a 100&#37; discount on karma?

Of course. Weren't really supposed to advertise it publicly though. :f3:

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 07:13 PM
Of course. Weren't really supposed to advertise it publicly though. :f3:

I thought it was understood, sir.

at least...thats what I understood.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 07:14 PM
Of course. Weren't really supposed to advertise it publicly though. :f3:

Are Mods/Admins allowed to change whatever to whatever they wish whenever they want anyway?

(That is what the flashy glowy thingy below avatars is for.)

Link
2010-11-17, 07:14 PM
Of course. Weren't really supposed to advertise it publicly though. :f3:

Why not? It's only fair. They are the staff, of course.

Eos
2010-11-17, 07:23 PM
I thought it was understood, sir.

at least...thats what I understood.

Point of an understanding is that it doesn't need to rubbed in.



(That is what the flashy glowy thingy below avatars is for.)

Actually the flashy glowy thing below avatar is so a malicious user can't pretend to be a mod/admin by manipulation of the username & usertitle.
And the reason it iterates through all possible colors is so it shows up on all possible themes we may one day have.

Sarah
2010-11-17, 08:13 PM
BurlyWood is so ugly but has a badass name.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 08:17 PM
BurlyWood is so ugly but has a badass name.

Just like you? o.O

Sarah
2010-11-17, 08:18 PM
Just like you? o.O

Exact opposite ^________________________________^;;

Thank you for the donation.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 08:20 PM
Exact opposite ^________________________________^;;

Thank you for the donation.

Youre welcome.
You know the expression "Youve got a bug up your ass"?

Youre my favorite ass-bug.

MetaSeraphim
2010-11-17, 08:23 PM
Actually the flashy glowy thing below avatar is so a malicious user can't pretend to be a mod/admin by manipulation of the username & usertitle.
And the reason it iterates through all possible colors is so it shows up on all possible themes we may one day have.

That is basically what I meant, just without the details you gave. :f3:

Sarah
2010-11-17, 09:22 PM
Is there any chance a mod or someone who can do it for free, repeatedly, could post all the different looks?

Khoi
2010-11-17, 09:24 PM
Youre welcome.
You know the expression "Youve got a bug up your ass"?

Youre my favorite ass-bug.

Woooow. I'm quoting this. This is pretty damn funny.

Greg
2010-11-17, 09:28 PM
Is there any chance a mod or someone who can do it for free, repeatedly, could post all the different looks?

It would make more sense to implement the ability to "preview". It can't be that difficult and it would make the market system much less intimidating, considering users have no idea what their names/titles will look like until after they buy it. If they don't like it, all they can do is refund it and still end up losing some of their money.

and then you'll have an ugly fluffy f(aggot name like me

Cyadd
2010-11-17, 09:30 PM
It would make more sense to implement the ability to "preview". It can't be that difficult and it would make the market system much less intimidating, considering users have no idea what their names/titles will look like until after they buy it. If they don't like it, all they can do is refund it and still end up losing some of their money.

and then you'll have an ugly fluffy f(aggot name like me

ITT: Greg is mad.

Greg
2010-11-17, 09:31 PM
yeah i am mad

and am only trying to save other innocent users/potential donators from suffering a similar irreversible fate

Link
2010-11-17, 09:31 PM
It would make more sense to implement the ability to "preview". It can't be that difficult and it would make the market system much less intimidating, considering users have no idea what their names/titles will look like until after they buy it. If they don't like it, all they can do is refund it and still end up losing some of their money.

and then you'll have an ugly fluffy f(aggot name like me

At least you're unique (for the moment).

Cyadd
2010-11-17, 09:33 PM
yeah i am mad

and am only trying to save other innocent users/potential donators from suffering a similar irreversible fate

You just look like a lovable peach.

Dyxanije
2010-11-17, 09:33 PM
yeah i am mad

and am only trying to save other innocent users/potential donators from suffering a similar irreversible fate

Your efforts are appreciated.

Eos
2010-11-17, 09:37 PM
yeah i am mad

and am only trying to save other innocent users/potential donators from suffering a similar irreversible fate

You could've just preview'd it by typing your name in a test message with the options you were considering like this:

Greg Fails At Life


Greg Fails At Life

Greg
2010-11-17, 09:42 PM
How was I supposed to know that I could even do that?

eos please make my glow go away, it is very annoying and ugly. it is the color of peaches and is very fuzzy looking, and being allergic to peaches it's very awkward to browse the forums with a name that holds both peachy and fuzzy characteristics. also, it is so blurry that I cannot even read my own username properly without squinting. this is very unsettling

please help

Eos
2010-11-17, 09:43 PM
How was I supposed to know that I could even do that?

Well there was this entire thread on the subject. (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34417)

Khoi
2010-11-17, 09:49 PM
There's an option to remove it, Greg.

Greg
2010-11-17, 09:50 PM
Well there was this entire thread on the subject. (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34417)

Oh...

but you gotta admit this peachy glow is pretty ugly

Eos
2010-11-17, 09:51 PM
Oh...

but you gotta admit this peachy glow is pretty ugly

I'm sure it's just misunderstood.

Cyadd
2010-11-17, 10:01 PM
I'm sure it's just misunderstood.

ITT: Eos refuses requests for a re-do.

Eos
2010-11-17, 10:05 PM
ITT: Eos refuses requests for a re-do.

No one is going to spontaneously die before I find time to add a "remove" system. It's a waste of time I could be devoting to doing that to go in and manually fix everyone who isn't happy.

Cyadd
2010-11-17, 10:10 PM
No one is going to spontaneously die before I find time to add a "remove" system. It's a waste of time I could be devoting to doing that to go in and manually fix everyone who isn't happy.

Jinkies! I've been told.

Zelkova
2010-11-17, 10:29 PM
Jinkies! I've been told.

oh god, i about died. JINKIES!

Kunagisa
2010-11-18, 12:27 AM
I'd rather have a small border around the characters/letters in my username (in which I can control the thickness), rather than a glow effect. Is it even possible to implement that?

Stereo
2010-11-18, 12:38 AM
Maybe you can change the glow to white Greg?

Myles
2010-11-18, 05:44 AM
Haven't read the entire thread, or anywhere else on the forum, but have usertitle colours/avatar sizes which were bought beforehand been deleted? I paid $5 for my usertitle colour and now it's gone. Do I get it refunded via Karma, or my usertitle colour re-done. Or is it just... gone?

Eos
2010-11-18, 08:12 AM
I'd rather have a small border around the characters/letters in my username (in which I can control the thickness), rather than a glow effect. Is it even possible to implement that?

Not that I'm aware of but then I'm also not entirely clear on what you mean.


Haven't read the entire thread, or anywhere else on the forum, but have usertitle colours/avatar sizes which were bought beforehand been deleted? I paid $5 for my usertitle colour and now it's gone. Do I get it refunded via Karma, or my usertitle colour re-done. Or is it just... gone?

Not touching that sort of thing until it's actually stable and working as it should. Think of it as being in beta right now.

Khoi
2010-11-18, 10:07 AM
Not that I'm aware of but then I'm also not entirely clear on what you mean.



Not touching that sort of thing until it's actually stable and working as it should. Think of it as being in beta right now.

Like making the outlines around the words a bit thicker? So instead of seeing a black glow around the word "Khoi", it's just a slight black outline. Hoping this is a better explanation, haha. Kinda rushed what I wanted to state last time.

Eos
2010-11-18, 10:32 AM
Like making the outlines around the words a bit thicker? So instead of seeing a black glow around the word "Khoi", it's just a slight black outline. Hoping this is a better explanation, haha. Kinda rushed what I wanted to state last time.

Not the way it's currently designed. Each glow tag right now requires it's own css element so creating one for every possible width of glow would be nightmarishly annoying.
Even the glow tag couldn't be made to support it easily because as soon as you move into multiple parameters on a bbcode tag you start getting into complex parsing and overrides and exceptions that start to get annoying to code.

Khoi
2010-11-18, 10:37 AM
Not the way it's currently designed. Each glow tag right now requires it's own css element so creating one for every possible width of glow would be nightmarishly annoying.
Even the glow tag couldn't be made to support it easily because as soon as you move into multiple parameters on a bbcode tag you start getting into complex parsing and overrides and exceptions that start to get annoying to code.

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up a bit. I was never sure if that was even possible, actually learning CSS atm, and I haven't even found a way to make the glow-effect on words yet, haha. Thanks!

Kunagisa
2010-11-18, 11:16 AM
Not the way it's currently designed. Each glow tag right now requires it's own css element so creating one for every possible width of glow would be nightmarishly annoying.
Even the glow tag couldn't be made to support it easily because as soon as you move into multiple parameters on a bbcode tag you start getting into complex parsing and overrides and exceptions that start to get annoying to code.

You wouldn't really have to make a new class for each possible width of glow. The current glow is pretty much neutral, not too big nor too small, so can stay like that. You'd just have to make 1 new class for the "border" text and place it as a separate option from glow in the market or something.

I haven't worked with CSS in a while, but if you need me to, I can see if I can remember the correct values for making a solid pixel border (probably about 2 pixels thick) over titles rather than a glow.

That is, if you're not opposed to the idea. I don't really mind, just giving my input on it.


Edit:

{text-shadow: -2px 0 black, 0 2px black, 2px 0 black, 0 -2px black}

Something like that, maybe. I haven't tested those values, but I think that's the general idea from what I remember. Kinda like glows, but you're offsetting them by 2 pixels.

Myles
2010-11-18, 12:13 PM
Not touching that sort of thing until it's actually stable and working as it should. Think of it as being in beta right now.

What I mean is: Where the hell did my custom usertitle colour go?

Eos
2010-11-18, 02:42 PM
{text-shadow: -2px 0 black, 0 2px black, 2px 0 black, 0 -2px black}

Something like that, maybe. I haven't tested those values, but I think that's the general idea from what I remember. Kinda like glows, but you're offsetting them by 2 pixels.

The glow itself is a text shadow. You can't overlay two separate text shadows one to control the size and one to control the color. You need a single text shadow that specifies both or the innermost wins.


What I mean is: Where the hell did my custom usertitle colour go?

the market ate it. Until market stops eating things, not putting back more for it to eat. Simple enough now?

Kunagisa
2010-11-18, 03:01 PM
The glow itself is a text shadow. You can't overlay two separate text shadows one to control the size and one to control the color. You need a single text shadow that specifies both or the innermost wins.





Yeah, I know you can't have two separate shadows. It's either glow or border, but you can't have both simultaneously.

How's the code for the glow look? I'm imagining it's something like:

{text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #(color), 0 0 0.2em #(color)}

Right?

Myles
2010-11-20, 04:00 AM
the market ate it. Until market stops eating things, not putting back more for it to eat. Simple enough now?

Ah, fair enough. As long as I get it back at some point, I'm fine. Don't want you to turn into Nexon ;).

Russt
2010-11-20, 11:05 AM
Yeah, I know you can't have two separate shadows. It's either glow or border, but you can't have both simultaneously.

How's the code for the glow look? I'm imagining it's something like:

{text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #(color), 0 0 0.2em #(color)}

Right?

.glow_9400D3 {
font-weight:bold;
text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #9400D3, 0 0 0.2em #9400D3, 0 0 0.2em #9400D3;
}
(source)

Yup.

Also, how do you refund, or is there no way to refund free items because there's "no reason to"?

Kunagisa
2010-11-20, 01:18 PM
.glow_9400D3 {
font-weight:bold;
text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #9400D3, 0 0 0.2em #9400D3, 0 0 0.2em #9400D3;
}
(source)

Yup.

Thanks. For outlined font, all you'd need to do is edit the values of the text shadow into something similar to what I did in an earlier post. Just make sure to put a notice that you can only pick either glow or outline, since you can't have both of them simultaneously.



Also, how do you refund, or is there no way to refund free items because there's "no reason to"?

On the market page, see where it says whether the item is refundable or not? "Yes" links to the refund page.

Or at least, for us normal users it does, but I see no reason for it to be any different for you guys.

Eos
2010-11-20, 02:01 PM
Refunds should now be working. Everyone who had a refund recently had it re-credited to them.

Another boost has been given to everyone who's participated to thank for your help in testing.

Personalized username modifications from previous regimes are in the process of being restored, unless you've already set one via the new system.

Still on the todo list - Enabling the background color options for username/usertitle/thread title/postbody, making SPP actually work. Other things I may have repressed.

Rob
2010-11-20, 02:35 PM
Wait. POSTBODY COLORS? WHAT DID I JUST READ?

Zelkova
2010-11-20, 02:36 PM
Holy hell, thanks Eos o.o!

Eos
2010-11-20, 02:36 PM
Wait. POSTBODY COLORS? WHAT DID I JUST READ?

Of the text, not the actual postbody itself. Yet.

Like a permanent/automatic version of this.

Although in retrospect making it the whole postbody would probably be the less painful option in this case, since the intersection of postbody plus bg plus glow plus text color could potentially kill and maim.

Zelkova
2010-11-20, 02:42 PM
YES! Refunds now remove effects!

Rob
2010-11-20, 02:55 PM
Well full postbody is gonna suck. I hate that. Just keep the template clean ;_;

Locked
2010-11-20, 03:04 PM
Would remove font modifications affect postbody too? I don't want that annoying sh'it in my posts.

Eos
2010-11-20, 04:01 PM
Would remove font modifications affect postbody too? I don't want that annoying sh'it in my posts.

It'd be sort of silly not to.

Waffles
2010-11-20, 05:41 PM
Well full postbody is gonna suck. I hate that. Just keep the template clean ;_;

So wasn't joking.

Fiel
2010-11-20, 05:45 PM
Okay, asking this out of curiosity and not of planning.

With the username change, is that aesthetic or full account name change?

Eos
2010-11-20, 05:46 PM
Okay, asking this out of curiosity and not of planning.

With the username change, is that aesthetic or full account name change?

Full rename, supposedly.
Looks like it updates threads and pms but misses posts. Need to add that to the fix list.

Rob
2010-11-20, 05:49 PM
So wasn't joking.

That's totally ugly as f'uck. I hate that. That's the worst thing you've done Eos :/

NEXT STOP: IMAGE BACKGROUNDS FOR POSTS!


EWW.

Eos
2010-11-20, 05:51 PM
That's totally ugly as f'uck. I hate that. That's the worst thing you've done Eos :/


Aren't you thrilled you can disable viewing it then?

Rob
2010-11-20, 05:53 PM
Aren't you thrilled you can disable viewing it then?

Nope. Because I don't despise user font's etc etc, it's kinda like flavoring text. I do mind having to turn everything off just for that :/

Greg
2010-11-20, 05:53 PM
For real Eos, I know it's nice and all to generate revenue for Southperry through this Market thing, but it seems like you're thinking "Well, it worked for Sleepywood, so it'll definitely work here."

Many of us left Sleepywood because of the post backround/color garbage. Username coloring/glowing is already pushing it for some. Can we keep Southperry simple like it has been for over two years? Pretty please?

Zelkova
2010-11-20, 06:18 PM
For real Eos, I know it's nice and all to generate revenue for Southperry through this Market thing, but it seems like you're thinking "Well, it worked for Sleepywood, so it'll definitely work here."

Many of us left Sleepywood because of the post backround/color garbage. Username coloring/glowing is already pushing it for some. Can we keep Southperry simple like it has been for over two years? Pretty please?

Seconding...

Kunagisa
2010-11-20, 06:20 PM
So wasn't joking.

I'm sorry, but that just looks horrible. It's not just the color selecting or anything, the table color change alone just completely clashes with the forum layout.

Also, Eos, I take it you're not up for my suggestion of including an outline rather than glow? I don't think it'd take too much work. I really think solid outlines would look better than fuzz.


Then again, outlines made in CSS usually look pretty meh, but I've never tried making them before. They probably look better at 2 or 3 px thick.

Sarah
2010-11-20, 06:22 PM
I can't see it but just knowing it's there makes my brain hurt.

Keep in mind that seeing it is the DEFAULT for lurkers and if there's one way to drive away potential users it's to make a forum look like a pigsty.

edit: yeah just logged out to look. That's repulsive.

edit: I kind of feel like you're trolling now because there's no way you could possibly think that's a good idea. It seems like you've gone from "I don't want to do it" to "THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEE"

Eos
2010-11-21, 01:15 AM
edit: I kind of feel like you're trolling now because there's no way you could possibly think that's a good idea. It seems like you've gone from "I don't want to do it" to "THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEE"

Oh fine, you figured me out.
I am however making the thread title backgrounds subject to colorization (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34602). It's less obnoxious but still lets people stand out.

Also the Market Color list has been updated to reflect the 146 Named color tags in HTML.

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 02:11 AM
Royal Blue (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34604) not working for my thread title color. Might be an indication of Royal Blue being broken for thread titles or something. Still testing a few things.

Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me.

Zelkova
2010-11-21, 02:12 AM
Royal Blue (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34604) not working for my thread title color. Might be an indication of Royal Blue being broken for thread titles or something. Still testing a few things.

Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me.

My eyes are broken too...

Myles
2010-11-21, 05:06 AM
inb4hoveroverpostsforcolourchange.


&#172;_&#172;.

I wouldn't mind having the ability to have small images in forum name though *cough*

Fiel
2010-11-21, 12:39 PM
Can someone tell me why my usertitle is now bold/italic? :(

Jon
2010-11-21, 12:40 PM
Someone must have panicked. :(

Eos
2010-11-21, 12:57 PM
Can someone tell me why my usertitle is now bold/italic? :(

Because you had an musername override in there to set it that way.

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 01:09 PM
Cornflower Blue doesn't work with title color change either. I'm testing if any of the newer color entries are working or not. I'm going to get off testing blue colors and start testing other colors that would stand out more, so don't be annoyed if you see vomit green on the page, guys!


Edit: Chartreuse isn't working either. Guess that means none of the new colors added work with thread title colors.

Eos
2010-11-21, 01:16 PM
Cornflower Blue doesn't work with title color change either. I'm testing if any of the newer color entries are working or not. I'm going to get off testing blue colors and start testing other colors that would stand out more, so don't be annoyed if you see vomit green on the page, guys!


Edit: Chartreuse isn't working either. Guess that means none of the new colors added work with thread title colors.

No, it means none of any kind of colored worked period because it was doubling the octothorpe until I just fixed it.

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 01:17 PM
No, it means none of any kind of colored worked period because it was doubling the octothorpe until I just fixed it.

Oh, and I just came from testing black. Here I was about to provide evidence of my claim, but it turns out you fixed it JUST when I picked a color I knew worked for me yesterday.

Eos
2010-11-21, 01:21 PM
Oh, and I just came from testing black. Here I was about to provide evidence of my claim, but it turns out you fixed it JUST when I picked a color I knew worked for me yesterday.

uh huh. I already refunded your five refunds too.

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 01:25 PM
uh huh. I already refunded your five refunds too.

Cool beans, thanks.

Fiel
2010-11-21, 01:26 PM
Could you turn off the musername plugin? Please?

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 01:40 PM
Usertitle glow is still broken.

Derosis (http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=34567&p=579547&viewfull=1#post579547) is having problems with it as well, but dunno if it's username glow or title glow.

Zelkova
2010-11-21, 02:36 PM
testingtoseeifimbroken.

Link
2010-11-21, 03:48 PM
I'm not broken either.

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 03:52 PM
Oh, so I guess it's just my useroutline that the market ate then. Testing to see.

Edit: Yeah, Royal Blue not working as a color glow for my usertitle, ganna see if Navy works.


Edit 2 - Navy works, Royal Blue does not.

Eos
2010-11-21, 05:21 PM
Edit 2 - Navy works, Royal Blue does not.

Yeah yeah all shiny now and faster too since unlike the idiot author i'm not trying to cram 90 pages of CSS into the body of every page randomly.

Sarah
2010-11-21, 05:21 PM
Can't see my pretty colours anymore :(

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 05:23 PM
No more glow-glow. Back to eye-hurting pink.

Eos
2010-11-21, 05:23 PM
Can't see my pretty colours anymore :(

Need a full cache refresh your css is outdated.

Sarah
2010-11-21, 05:24 PM
Need a full cache refresh

I'm burlywood again!

Kunagisa
2010-11-21, 05:24 PM
So, would Royal Blue work now if I changed my usertitle color?

Eos
2010-11-21, 05:26 PM
So, would Royal Blue work now if I changed my usertitle color?

Yes

Zelkova
2010-11-21, 05:29 PM
i think i got owned.

yep i did o.o

Eos
2010-11-21, 05:30 PM
i think i got owned.

yep i did o.o

How so?

Greg
2010-11-21, 05:30 PM
Can't see my pretty colours anymore :(
nobody else thought they were pretty

Also, something I've been meaning to ask for a while but I might as well throw into this thread; why don't we have an option to have no user title at all? I think the last time I tried doing this, it would just keep giving me whatever the generic Southperry titles were (based on post count or whatever). Would be a nice addition to all of the other username/usertitle features.

Dual
2010-11-21, 05:58 PM
So is glow gone entirely or just broken atm?

Zelkova
2010-11-21, 05:59 PM
How so?

The obvious thing with glow being gone. o.o