Fighting the new Bigfoot

[IsaacGS]

I think there was a fair amount of concern about what would happen once they fixed Bigfoot. What they decided to go with was the simplest solution, and that is to give it a boss flag. This means no more Dragon Breath and no more stun. unfortunately, they didn't fix the glitched KB frames. that means you can't just stand there and fire away keeping it KBed, either. So, what to do?

Here's what I figured out. It took me an hour to kill it this way, but I'm sure with SE it would take significantly less time.
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9818/isaacbigfootsoloda3.jpg

you see where I'm standing? Here's what I learned:
If you puppet on the higher platform, Bigfoot can't reach it. He'll jump and jump, but he can't get high enough. However, he can get up by using the other two platforms. To deal with this, you need to put the puppet as close to the center of the platform as possible. Additionally, when Bigfoot starts heading toward the extremes, you must attack. Once you do this, he'll turn around upon exiting the KB animation and head back towards puppet. You can use this to your advantage if your puppet is too far to one side to keep him on the ground. When puppet dies, you need to recast it immediately.

If you should somehow lose control of bigfoot, there's another thing you can try. Bigfoot can get on the top platform, and you can put the puppet beneath him. In this manner you can alternate between keeping him up top and on the floor as needed. In the event that you completely lose him and he wanders off to the right, you can also keep him on the ground near the portal by putting the puppet onto the smaller platform on the left side, but it's easier for him to break out of this. This is a good stopgap measure to give you more time to set up the puppet in a proper location.

The kicker here is that if you stand on the smaller platform, it casts puppet on the floor. So, if you want it to go on the larger platform, you'll need to stand on that platform to get it up there. It can be pretty close, but don't be too afraid: Bigfoot's hitbox isn't as large as it appears. the pole and his hair can't hurt you. Jump anyway to be careful, though. It also takes a fair amount of speed and jump to get away in time. I used cupcakes in emergencies but as you can see I don't have too many of those left. It is possible to get on the mount and leap over it but it's risky, because of the elder wraiths that run about.

if you plan on fighting it at Forgotten Path, try to do it when there's no people around. a DK girl came in while I was doing this and started killing up top. Next thing I know there's Elder wraiths knocking my puppets down and Leprechauns taunting me with the risk of getting stunned. She kept falling for about the last 10% of the fight so it was quite dangerous X_x. I actually got cornered because of this and somehow was blessed by bigfoot missing me. Also, I was able to jump over Bigfoot with my pig without getting hurt. Keep that in mind if he starts cornering you.

Anyone else have any tips for fighting it on other maps? This one can be dangerous if you're not careful because of all the other species of monsters that can appear.

[Kevvl]

Too bad that's the only map it works at =/

What level is your puppet? A maxed puppet should be able to hold off Elders until you kill them off, while keeping Bigfoot slightly busy.

[Dusk]

It's not that hard to hold it even on Evil Rising, if you're strong enough to KB it consistently and you know how to use Puppet. I'm 12x with SE, though.

[FelixTM]

I've already posted my method for killing Bigfoot around these forums, in multiple topics. Even when Bigfoot was glitched, I always still chose to kill it pure legit. Because of that, I'm already quite experienced at killing them properly. <3 I've solo'd Bigfoot using only Hurricane, Phoenix and Puppet in every different map it spawns in.

It takes a lot of focus, but it's really quite simple. All you have to do is keep Puppet up. The second it dies, cast again. That would suck for low leveled people...but for me it's easy, because it only takes me about 15 minutes (with 12 att pots) to solo one.

If it wasn't missing stupid hitboxes, I could take Bigfoots apart with no trouble and in less than 10 minutes.

[IsaacGS]

Too bad that's the only map it works at =/

What level is your puppet? A maxed puppet should be able to hold off Elders until you kill them off, while keeping Bigfoot slightly busy.
My puppet is 12, but I just kept getting unlucky and the elders were hitting on the high end of their possibility.

I've already posted my method for killing Bigfoot around these forums, in multiple topics. Even when Bigfoot was glitched, I always still chose to kill it pure legit. Because of that, I'm already quite experienced at killing them properly. <3 I've solo'd Bigfoot using only Hurricane, Phoenix and Puppet in every different map it spawns in.

It takes a lot of focus, but it's really quite simple. All you have to do is keep Puppet up. The second it dies, cast again. That would suck for low leveled people...but for me it's easy, because it only takes me about 15 minutes (with 12 att pots) to solo one.

If it wasn't missing stupid hitboxes, I could take Bigfoots apart with no trouble and in less than 10 minutes.
See, I started to do it on a twisted paths, but whenever I would try to do like you said (your comments about it are what gave me the idea to try this) bigfoot doesn't run through it, but he sits there and does his stomp attack. The problem is, he's got a ton of invincible frames during this attack. Therefore, the entire time he's killing puppet he's pretty much unable to be hit. it made it pretty difficult to fight X_X I gave up and decide to try it there, where I soon discovered this method of keeping it out of his range.

So I guess my question for you is, how do you do this on a flat map when using puppet pretty much renders him invincible?

[FelixTM]

So I guess my question for you is, how do you do this on a flat map when using puppet pretty much renders him invincible?

Hurricane solves that problem. The sheer amount of arrows Hurricane blasts out ensures Bigfoot is being hit the majority of the time. With Puppet, I've even managed to successfully push Bigfoot over half way across a Twisted Paths map before I ended up losing control. Phoenix is another great addition, because he only attacks when he knows he's gonna hit something. And since Bigfoot is Fire-weak, my level 25 Phoenix is putting out 13-15k hits on the sucker.

I doubt it affects the question at hand in any way, but I always stand pretty close to Bigfoot while fighting it, too (Phoenix range, so that it constantly attacks with me). If you hold your ground pretty close to Bigfoot, it's easier to keep casting Puppet a bit farther away each time. This way I can keep control and move him when I need to.

[Technolink]

I doubt it affects the question at hand in any way, but I always stand pretty close to Bigfoot while fighting it, too (Phoenix range, so that it constantly attacks with me). If you hold your ground pretty close to Bigfoot, it's easier to keep casting Puppet a bit farther away each time. This way I can keep control and move him when I need to.

How do you deal with the jr wraiths? Does phoenix take care of em?

Only asking because when you say you stand within phoenix's range, it seems like a jr. wraith bumping you and a poorly-timed frame for kb can send BF into you.

Than again, it seems I'm wrong, or you'd be dead.

[Dusk]

Isaac, it's more to do with the fact that your Puppet is only 12 than Hurricane. I can hold him with either Strafe or Hurricane (although I do have SE).

Level 20 Puppet will never die in one hit, and can sometimes tank 3-4 hits, so it makes the whole ordeal a lot easier.

[Chameleonic]

Hurricane solves that problem.

Indeed.


With Strafe, half the shots go through it and if you dont puppet it it eventually runs over you. When I tried it I could just barely keep it KB'd if I got into a rhythm, as every second shot hit it and it gained ground on me all the time...and now DB and Eagle doesnt work on it I'm in more trouble.

Nexon please go back to the drawing board...

[FelixTM]

How do you deal with the jr wraiths? Does phoenix take care of em?

Only asking because when you say you stand within phoenix's range, it seems like a jr. wraith bumping you and a poorly-timed frame for kb can send BF into you.

Than again, it seems I'm wrong, or you'd be dead.

Yeah, Phoenix handles a lot of them. I prevent a lot of them from getting to me by turning around and doing a few quick Hurricanes sometimes, too.

I decided to flaunt my Bigfoot soloing skills some more tonight and have some fun with a few Nibfeets. The pictures are posted in the Boss Battles thread. :D It's such an easy boss. I'm working on developing a pretty successful (possible) pin or, at least, push tactic right now. I was able to hold off and push Bigfoot across a Twisted Paths map for over a full minute without losing control. <3

[ItzLouis]

ugh I soloed my first bigfoot and took an hour, and no toe T_T
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5586/bigfootta4.png

Anyways thanks for the tip Isaac! It really helped. =D
(btw does anyone know the drop rate of the toe? >.<)

[DarkestTempest]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/Majestic_wavemaster/Maple0008.jpg

I don't know. I've killed about seven bigfoots in total, and I've only seen one drop (and it got ks'd by a FP Archmage - it was in the "bigfoot != boss" era).

[IsaacGS]

ugh I soloed my first bigfoot and took an hour, and no toe T_T
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5586/bigfootta4.png

Anyways thanks for the tip Isaac! It really helped. =D
(btw does anyone know the drop rate of the toe? >.<)


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/Majestic_wavemaster/Maple0008.jpg

I don't know. I've killed about seven bigfoots in total, and I've only seen one drop (and it got ks'd by a FP Archmage - it was in the "bigfoot != boss" era).
Glad this technique worked for you guys. Did either of you get cornered at any point? Or any problem with people walking in and killing up top?

Man, I really want SE, I bet it would be extremely helpful.

[ItzLouis]

Yes I do get cornered. >.<
I found the best way to escape is to open up your inventory and double click on a return scroll. It might bring you back to town, but its better then dying and losing 7% =/

[DarkestTempest]

Yes, I did get cornered before. I usually just throw a puppet to delay bigfoot while i catch my breath, change channel, and change back. Then I lure bigfoot to the other set of platforms (there are two on the sides).

[IsaacGS]

Yes, I did get cornered before. I usually just throw a puppet to delay bigfoot while i catch my breath, change channel, and change back. Then I lure bigfoot to the other set of platforms (there are two on the sides).
I actually think that return scroll would be a better option. After all, you might end up CCing into a different bigfoot and that wouldn't help you at all.

[Worthyness]

Isn't there the trusty esc + up + enter?

I've done that a couple of times =P

But seeing as i can't even try to kill this myself, it won't concern me for a while...

[DarkestTempest]

You lose your current buff by relogging, which include those apples you may be using. Not really a wise option.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/Majestic_wavemaster/Maple0011.jpg
Thank you Isaac, for making this moment possible.

[ItzLouis]

Wow grats on getting your toe. How many Bigfoots have you killed to find that? >.<

I killed a couple of bigfoots and haven't even seen one toe. So I was thinking of getting 2x drop, would 2x drop give it at least a 50% chance of dropping the toe? =(

[Kevvl]

I got my Toe the first day CwK was out. Some nice Hermit owned it for me with Shadow Web XD

Today, 2 of my friends solo'd Bigfoot (Each killed one). Out of the 2 they killed, we got 1 toe. One of which used the TS's method at FP^^

[DarkestTempest]

Wow grats on getting your toe. How many Bigfoots have you killed to find that? >.<

I killed a couple of bigfoots and haven't even seen one toe. So I was thinking of getting 2x drop, would 2x drop give it at least a 50% chance of dropping the toe? =(

I've seen two toes drop out of eleven bigfoots, but the first one was KS'd by an FP mage.

Overall, I killed ten bigfoots before a toe showed up. Nine of them were solo'd, and seven after 0.60.

[psychopat]

I know it would be a lot slower, but...

If he can't reach puppet by jumping, could we just stand in the middle of the top platform and eruption/rain spam as well? If that works, it gives other classes options too, like explosion, ice strike, etc.

[Rei]

I know it would be a lot slower, but...

If he can't reach puppet by jumping, could we just stand in the middle of the top platform and eruption/rain spam as well? If that works, it gives other classes options too, like explosion, ice strike, etc.

I think that wouldn't work because of his annoying invincibility frames + his speed.
He might be able to jump up the side platforms and kill you.

Then again, I'm not sure, so someone can try it and let us know for sure. o:

[DarkestTempest]

It does work. I do that when someone tries to interrupt me, because if I stay on the sides, there's a good chance I'll get killed in a few minutes.

I've seen a couple of people TRYING to kill me too. In those cases I just stand on the top plat and spam Eruption. One of them got so frustrated he pulled a risky maneuver and killed himself.

[IsaacGS]

I know it would be a lot slower, but...

If he can't reach puppet by jumping, could we just stand in the middle of the top platform and eruption/rain spam as well? If that works, it gives other classes options too, like explosion, ice strike, etc.
yeah, in theory you could do that. It's quite a bit riskier though, because if you should fail to keep it at bay it might get around to the platforms and get up to you. Jump Down makes it easier to escape, but you can't attack him when he's above you using this method like you might with mine.

I got the idea to try this from fighting HH at the crossroads, where you put the puppet up there out of range. Sometimes I see I/Ls or F/Ps using their attacks up there on that platform, so I'd imagine they could apply this technique just like us. It would take a REALLY, REALLY long time though.

[psychopat]

The first thing I said was that it would be slower... :f2:

Anyway, I wanted to clarify because it does offer more methods to kill it. If someone causes a bunch of elder wraiths or firebrand heads to come, for example, you can go up to the center of the platform and spam AE/AR until they're dead and then go back to the puppet method. As someone else also pointed out, when people come and try to mess you up or KS it, thus making the puppet useless, going to the center helps keep you alive.

Then again, you've actually soloed one and have more experience at it than I do, so I might just be full of hot air.... I think I'm going to try to kill one after I level, even though I expect to fail. :cool: Heck, even a HH takes me 450 strafes :f3:

[IcyGreenTea]

It'll be forever before I can solo a BF on my own then.. T_T
Was planning to get toes before the patch with my friend's help... but I guess I'll have to do it myself now. Hmm, I'll probably have to be lv 120 to do that though... XD

[IsaacGS]

The first thing I said was that it would be slower... :f2:

Anyway, I wanted to clarify because it does offer more methods to kill it. If someone causes a bunch of elder wraiths or firebrand heads to come, for example, you can go up to the center of the platform and spam AE/AR until they're dead and then go back to the puppet method. As someone else also pointed out, when people come and try to mess you up or KS it, thus making the puppet useless, going to the center helps keep you alive.

Then again, you've actually soloed one and have more experience at it than I do, so I might just be full of hot air.... I think I'm going to try to kill one after I level, even though I expect to fail. :cool: Heck, even a HH takes me 450 strafes :f3:
That actually is a good idea, just haven't had the opportunity to test it. :p I think that taking touch from an elder though might knock you far enough off center to be in danger though. You'd need to be killing the flying monsters pretty quick. I think Marksmen and Snipers would have an advantage in that situation since AE would push them up, away from you, where as rain would be pushing all the ones to your back right into you.

[Technolink]

AE works the same as AR in terms of KB. Its w/e way we are facing.

Is your method possible with level 6 puppet and w/o the apple? At 102 I'd like to try it, not worth the walk to CWK from newts if I can't though.

[IsaacGS]

AE works the same as AR in terms of KB. Its w/e way we are facing.

Is your method possible with level 6 puppet and w/o the apple? At 102 I'd like to try it, not worth the walk to CWK from newts if I can't though.
level 6, sure, but you wouldn't have much time before you have to reset the puppet. Without apples, it's probably gonna take you several hours. The odds of not messing up, especially with the short duration of level 6 puppet, in that time aren't good, so you should count on dying at least once, if not several times.

I'd wait longer or until you've stocked up some apples.

[Technolink]

Doing some math, it should take 9.8 minutes of spamming with an apple to kill him. Consider that 2 apples per BF, probably more (though I wouldn't use an apple until I'm in a rythme of course).

So 5M a BF, and the star is around 50M now. Just doesn't seem worth it. If I go 10 big foots until I get the toe I'm not saving money anymore. Ontop of that, I still have to kill HH and the like as well.

And if I buy mine now, I can always go back and kill BF in the 12x or w/e and then sell my pendent. Oh well =P

[Mark]

Yeah I figured this out a while ago, but it's nice for you to tell others. :3

[ItzLouis]

Is this godly exp or what? :excellent:
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/590/124bj8.png
Killed it during 2x exp event with 2x exp card. =D (10.6 mil exp = 30% xD)
I bought 2x drop too and the drop rate was still terrible. -_- Killed 3 and it dropped everything EXCEPT the toe every time. >.>
Also, is it just me or when someone enters the map, the puppet stops working? Cause like I had a couple of people walking in the map and everytime they did, the puppet failed and the Bigfoot started chasing me again...

[Dusk]

Wow. Bigfoot is a hell of a lot easier with a 2/3-person archer party. You don't have to worry about him running over your Puppet or other people entering your map. Just attack him from both sides, and when he gets too close to one person and they start to run out of room to retreat, they just have to Puppet and run back a few steps. Bigfoot will immediately aggro to the other person and you can continue. You can do this on any map, not just Phantom Road. My party killed 3 Bigfoots in 15-20 minutes each (and we took a while to get the pattern down, too, so theoretically it should take a couple minutes less than that). No apples were used. I used a Leaf Crystal, I'm not sure if my party used any nub pot. Our members were:

128 BM
123 BM (me)
104 Sniper

Not bad, I think. And the Sniper wasn't attacking the whole time, because she's a fraidy cat. Should take 10-15 minutes.

[DarkestTempest]

I've killed another few for friends. This is feeling rather good.

Maybe I should consider opening up a commercial service for killing bgifoot for others, lol.

[BlueAnus]

I killed two today. Most of what his here is all good, just two things to add.

In emergency situations, if you are getting cornered, these arnt guaranteed, but you can puppet to the side, and hide in a corner that is NOT the corner of the screen, just make it so bigfoot will walk over you. Also, if you REALLY need to, use the leprechauns as bump damage and then run through.

Just two suggestions to think about IF you need them.

[Icedfire]

i follow pretty much the same strategy. it works really well. when you do a jump down off the side plats, for w/e reason, and say... BF jumps off the right hand one, you just jumped down from the right one. he's ticked at you, your puppet is dead. if you cast on the middle (so he tries to go over you) will he jump you, like the pigs do at rainforest east of henesys?

i never wanted to check lol. 12k isn't very nice.

[Technolink]

Using this strategy, I killed BF (almost)!

I took down around 85% of it, then a lvl 180 hero came in and 'ksed' me, but still gave me the toe ^^

So 85% of BF's HP took 1 hour and 55 minutes.
This includes 20+ deaths from lag, elder wraiths, out of control BF, and general stupidity (I have the map so its a short walk back).
2 bathroom breaks
A 5 minute conversation with someone asking me "Why are you killing at such a low level, your taking kills from people that need it, yada yada yada" eventually convinced him that 2 hours or 20 minutes, the BF is going to spawn next just the same, and its mine until then.

The strategy worked beautifully. With a 20 second puppet at level 102, only dragon food used as pots, I was able to keep BF under control in a puppet chain for 10 minutes at a time, followed by some uncertainty where he would go 3 or 4 puppets then escape (usually when I died). All in all it worked nicely, and I really lucked out on the toe dropping.

So yea, got my pendent ^^

[Mark]

Just an added note from one of my many solos:

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq105/GrimSerenity/Maple%20Crap/Bigfoot/BigfootPwned10.png

I prefer using the right side of the map as there isn't a ridiculous hill-like structure. Also sticking the puppet on the far right and left smaller platforms is safer and easier. Once Bigfoot breaks out of your hold, run to the top and wait to see what it does, then once it goes under one of the smaller platforms AE/AR it and stick puppet right there and he'll never reach it.

[Technolink]

Actually, come to think of it, the left side would be better for above method. With your method (as with this thread's) you have to jump to the higher platform, puppet, then come down and attack.

With the left side set, the side with the hill (right) forces your puppet up.

Thus you can attack BF a ton, then just place puppet again. As long as he doesn't jump up again, and as long as the slope isn't too great to miss that tiny hit-box of his (I don't think it is)

[Mark]

It's not as complex as you think. Did you forget about the jump down skill?

Anyway, the side with that hill is ridiculous when trying to hit BF, and puppeting on the top is risky in itself. Don't knock it 'till you try it.

[Greg22]

Just an added note from one of my many solos:

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq105/GrimSerenity/Maple%20Crap/Bigfoot/BigfootPwned10.png

I prefer using the right side of the map as there isn't a ridiculous hill-like structure. Also sticking the puppet on the far right and left smaller platforms is safer and easier. Once Bigfoot breaks out of your hold, run to the top and wait to see what it does, then once it goes under one of the smaller platforms AE/AR it and stick puppet right there and he'll never reach it.

hehehehe WHO'S THAT HERMIT

[Itay]

I hate bigfoot =( Scania has like 5 of them running around in that map atm. I soloed one but died many times because many noobs kept invading the map and puppet didn't work. I HATE IT'S KB!!

[Icedfire]

i normally clear forgotten path and one or two twisteds each time i go hunting with my NL buddies. 3 / 7 maps with them isn't too bad lol.

[psychopat]

I tend to look around for one on Forgotten Path every time I level, just to see if I can realistically beat one... They're never there :f3:

[FelixTM]

I tend to look around for one on Forgotten Path every time I level, just to see if I can realistically beat one... They're never there :f3:

Yeah, because the Forgotten Path Bigfoots are the only ones most people can kill. Lol
I have no trouble finding Bigfoots whenever I need, because there's always some in Twisted Paths or Evil Dead. Really, it's only BMs and Heroes that take the Bigfoots that don't require using the map to kill them. <3

[DarkestTempest]

I tried to fight bigfoot in Twisted Path today after levelling. I managed to push him in a corner and took off a good 1/6 HP off him, but then a jr wraith knocked me onto him >_<

It's really annoying fighting him in twisted path, just cuz he keeps on killing puppet in 2-3 hits, and I have to get up close so I don't end up shooting air half the time. And those jr wraith are freaking annoying.

[Icedfire]

Yeah, because the Forgotten Path Bigfoots are the only ones most people can kill. Lol
I have no trouble finding Bigfoots whenever I need, because there's always some in Twisted Paths or Evil Dead. Really, it's only BMs and Heroes that take the Bigfoots that don't require using the map to kill them. <3


it's because of the glitched KB that most people have trouble. i can fight him just fine in twisted, but it's annoying as heck cause no matter what you do you lose ground T.T

if he didn't have the wierd KB i'd kill him probably ~10 minutes faster on my solos and ~6m faster on my duos.

[psychopat]

http://i33.tinypic.com/kejjhh.jpg
I essentially solo'ed it... The lacking exp is from random people coming in, taking potshots and leaving and that pineapple of an ice archmage that came in when it was nearly dead, trying to KS it. Because of him, I was relegated to using rain in the middle otherwise I'd die...

Anyway, I felt that the right side was way quicker than the left half of the map because of the slope that someone else already mentioned... My favourite technique was on the right side of the map, with the puppet as far right as possible on the right island and BF below the island. He very rarely managed to jump up twice and kill the puppet before the timer ran out. I would then hold strafe down for 3 shots, pause until BF's crying eyes disappear, repeat.

When the puppet ran out, i'd go up top and he'd follow on the bottom. I could therefore repuppet on the island and go below. Sometimes he'd run through puppet and get himself stuck again, giving me ~45 secs to pelt him. Other time he'd stop and stomp it. If he did that, I'd go up to the top left and strafe until puppet died. Then he'd either go right (which is perfect for rain + puppet on the island) or get shot.

If he got shot, I'd have to jump down, head right and puppet on the lower right ground. If done well, he'd walk over you and wind up to the right of puppet. As soon as it died, Rain + puppet right from the island, giving me roughly 50 secs at him...

I'm still pissed at that mage though. And no toe.

edit: Oh... I also abused the beginner heal in order to make the hundreds of "Puppet has run out" messages scroll. Makes it easier to notice a new puppet message when the scroll says "You may not use this skill yet" instead.

There were a few times I messed up and would have died if it weren't for my hog. I also got stuck on the right twice, needing to cc out and back in in order to survive... All in all, not bad for a first attempt. Definitely not doing it again at least until I get SE... or at least an apple. Heck, I was even out of 12 atk crystals and elixirs XD

[FelixTM]

it's because of the glitched KB that most people have trouble. i can fight him just fine in twisted, but it's annoying as heck cause no matter what you do you lose ground T.T

if he didn't have the wierd KB i'd kill him probably ~10 minutes faster on my solos and ~6m faster on my duos.


The only time I ever lose ground when fighting Bigfoot is when the spawn catches me off guard/overwhelms me (sometimes in Evil Dead). I don't know how you're doing it, but you should be able to hold Bigfoot in any position you want or even push him around. When I solo in Evil Dead, I hold him right in front of the portal the entire time (you can check some of my Bigfoot SSs to see where, if you want). When I solo in Twisted Paths, I either hold him wherever I want or push him farther away to gain more room. In Forgotten Path I usually pin him in the corner or against one of the steps in the map.

[Icedfire]

it's a bit like anego, in that if you don't hit the min KB damage, it'll come and rush you. that's the problem i face, my low arrows do 1800~2800 and then he rushes me. until i get the 2k min damage (at 144 i should have it), i'll always have to worry about rushes.

Evil dead, i'm too concerned about fighting too many things at once. i'd try it in a party, but solo atm is really insane. i doubt the elders stand up to your hurricane, but they still take a bit to down with mine.

when i'm in a team with my NL's we just pin it to the barrier (i can do that on twisted on occasion). easy breezy. phoenix is a godsend in twisted for dealing with the wraiths :)

[FelixTM]

it's a bit like anego, in that if you don't hit the min KB damage, it'll come and rush you. that's the problem i face, my low arrows do 1800~2800 and then he rushes me. until i get the 2k min damage (at 144 i should have it), i'll always have to worry about rushes.

Evil dead, i'm too concerned about fighting too many things at once. i'd try it in a party, but solo atm is really insane. i doubt the elders stand up to your hurricane, but they still take a bit to down with mine.

when i'm in a team with my NL's we just pin it to the barrier (i can do that on twisted on occasion). easy breezy. phoenix is a godsend in twisted for dealing with the wraiths :)


Hm, yeah, I guess I didn't consider that. My mins are doing 4k+, and I forgot to realize that. :(

Evil Dead can be a little insane. The one Elder Wraith that spawns over and over by where I fight isn't a problem. But occasionally a huge cluster of like 4-6 will come flying over...and then things can get messy. Just gotta keep your cool and focus on not losing Bigfoot.

Phoenix is, indeed, the sex.

[BMW]

Heres something for kicks. Soloing BF is kinda fun, did a few out of boredomness today. But yeah.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/voltis/Maple0290.jpg

[Icedfire]

is that tespia?

cause my lowest crit is like 5.8k w/ pot...

[randompeep]

^
:f6: There isn't a Tespia out right now. But that is a good point.

[FelixTM]

is that tespia?

cause my lowest crit is like 5.8k w/ pot...


o_o Huh? Crabbb and I are both in Bera, so I'm not really sure what/why you're asking.

And do you not have Bow Expert maxed or something? My lowest crit is 10k+, even without an att pot.

[Icedfire]

lol... didn't catch the banner at the top, nor realized we haven't had a tespia since early june.

that's like a day old... are you using a war bow or something?

[FelixTM]

lol... didn't catch the banner at the top, nor realized we haven't had a tespia since early june.

that's like a day old... are you using a war bow or something?


o_o Uhm...I think I realize where your confusion is coming from now. He's hitting 14k's, not 1.4k's. You do realize that, right?

At first I was thinking you thought his damage was too high. But now I realize you're thinking it's too low. Haha

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And wth @ randompeep lol? First you say "good point" then you tell her to look carefully. Haha

[randompeep]

Look carefully. The lower number has a black line at the very edge of the screen that marks a 5th number.

[Icedfire]

nah felix, i'm 140 right on the dot. no way i have expert maxed. 30 hurr, 13se, and 16 be.

and yes i thought it was wayyyy too low lol. confusing photo is confusing f3.

my crits are 5.8~8.8k on BF or so... i don't really watch my numbers anymore, and usually train w/o pots lol. i'm also really weak (look at the archer damage ranges on basil or the actual website - i'm the person that's 120+ and like 500+ points below everyone else f3)

[Xiyuuna]

o.O I typically BF with a NL.

Is there like a perfect distance to stand away from BF to hurricane without 50% of my arrows going through it. D:< Or is BF made like that on purpose.

[wobbufet]

o.O I typically BF with a NL.

Is there like a perfect distance to stand away from BF to hurricane without 50% of my arrows going through it. D:< Or is BF made like that on purpose.

It is made like that, but I don't think it's on purpose. Just nexon being noobs ._.

[FelixTM]

o.O I typically BF with a NL.

Is there like a perfect distance to stand away from BF to hurricane without 50% of my arrows going through it. D:< Or is BF made like that on purpose.

It happens because Nexon "forgot" some of the hit boxes on some of its frames. In other words, Bigfoot doesn't exist in certain animations. The best way to get the most continuous hits on Bigfoot is to keep your distance and slowly advance as you push him back. If you don't get interrupted by any monsters or MP running out, you can push Bigfoot as far as you want (and get more hits in than usual, too).

[butterfλi]

It happens because Nexon "forgot" some of the hit boxes on some of its frames. In other words, Bigfoot doesn't exist in certain animations.

This only occurs in some NLC monsters (wolf spiders and elder wraiths have this too). Isn't Masteria created by Nexon America alone? They could use some help on programing.

[FelixTM]

This only occurs in some NLC monsters (wolf spiders and elder wraiths have this too). Isn't Masteria created by Nexon America alone? They could use some help on programing.

Yeah, monsters missing hit boxes has only occurred on monsters Nexon America has dealt with. It first happened with Extra D's and Bodyguard B in Showa ("forgot" them while changing Showa around, perhaps?). After that, it's happened solely in several of their Masteria monsters (Wolf Spiders, Firebrands, Elder Wraiths and Bigfoot).

Pretty sad how careless they are. I don't think it'd be too hard to check over your monsters and make sure you included hit boxes in all their different frames.

[ItzLouis]

Finally got my toe after killing Bigfoots for 2 whole levels. :cool:
I was so happy when i saw that big toe pop out after the Bigfoot's death. xD
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1123/125andtoebg4.png
I just wanted to thank Isaac again for his fabulous technique otherwise i would never have gotten my deputy star. xD

[Mark]

Isaac doesn't own the rights to this "technique." Archers were doing it even before Bigfoot was "fixed."

[FelixTM]

Isaac doesn't own the rights to this "technique." Archers were doing it even before Bigfoot was "fixed."

First off, this thread was created to help Bowman kill Bigfoot. Several people, as it's become obvious from this thread, really benefited from this help. Second, no one has tried "claiming rights" to any method for killing Bigfoot on this forum. People are merely thanking Isaac and calling it his method because he was the first to make an actual thread dedicated to it. No one is trying to make this method seem like it BELONGS to Isaac. If you can't understand that, it's probably because your ego got in the way.

Let's review:


Yeah I figured this out a while ago, but it's nice for you to tell others. :3

Remember this post? Yeah, you made it in this thread. WOW, you are SO PRO for figuring this out before it was shared. HOLY CRAP. I'm glad you made this post to make sure we were all VERY AWARE that you figured it out beforehand. Dang. If we hadn't known that...goodness knows what could have happened. THANKS.

It's FANTASTIC you knew of this method before it was posted, but you haven't contributed a SINGLE thing to help anyone else out with Bigfoot. If you're not going to be anything other than an idiot/elitist/troll, don't even bother posting and wasting space in a place meant to help others.

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When I had my first successful Bigfoot, I was happy to share how I did it in order to help others.

Detailed description of my first Bigfoot solo, on the day I did it (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showpost.php?p=55077&postcount=35)

I made quite a few detailed posts on the first page of this thread, too, to help others experiment with and succeed in killing Bigfoot. That's all this should be about: helping other Bowman.

[Mark]

Oh my. Didn't read the thread did you?


Just an added note from one of my many solos:

http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq105/GrimSerenity/Maple%20Crap/Bigfoot/BigfootPwned10.png

I prefer using the right side of the map as there isn't a ridiculous hill-like structure. Also sticking the puppet on the far right and left smaller platforms is safer and easier. Once Bigfoot breaks out of your hold, run to the top and wait to see what it does, then once it goes under one of the smaller platforms AE/AR it and stick puppet right there and he'll never reach it.

Maybe your ego got in the way of your ability to READ. I posted a much easier and safer way to solo Bigfoot. :3 Nice try though...and I'd appreciate it if you stopped flaming me. :[

[WingZero]

Isaac doesn't own the rights to this "technique." Archers were doing it even before Bigfoot was "fixed."
Just wondering, but why does it matter who made the technique? Isaac was just the first to post how to kill BF and he is just thanking him for showing how to kill BF.

[Technolink]

Well the thanks usually translate to the method being named after him. I know I've been calling it the Isaac method, simply because everyone knows what I'm talking about.

Its like one of Newton's mass laws was credited to Galileo. Sure its not fair, but whenever I think of inertia I think of Galileo and his plantery motion laws.

[LaLaaLove]

:D I solo'd my first Bigfoot today, using the method Mark posted. It took about two hours, 8 deaths and half an apple, but no toe. :(

The round-about method was quite useful when I lost control, and at one point Bigfoot and I were chasing each other around the smaller platform for a good minute or two xD

[Chameleonic]

Did they fix BF's (or Elder wraiths/etc) hitbox in the last Patch?

[FelixTM]

Did they fix BF's (or Elder wraiths/etc) hitbox in the last Patch?

No, all monsters that were missing hitboxes are still missing them.

[Overdrive]

I've been wanting to solo a BF for a long time, but schools kept me busy from leveling high enough to actually do it without apples. ><

So my question here is; is it possible for me to solo BF in about an hour?

I'm level 93 and my range is 12xx ~ 21xx (can't remember it exactly).

With one apple and my gelt, do you guys think I could kill it? :\

Also, any tips on soloing it would help me greatly. :]

[Mark]

There really isn't anything more we can say. Just pick a technique that works for you. It also helps to have a mount to outrun it if you need to.

[LaLaaLove]

I've been wanting to solo a BF for a long time, but schools kept me busy from leveling high enough to actually do it without apples. ><

So my question here is; is it possible for me to solo BF in about an hour?

I'm level 93 and my range is 12xx ~ 21xx (can't remember it exactly).

With one apple and my gelt, do you guys think I could kill it? :\

Also, any tips on soloing it would help me greatly. :]

It's probably possible, but be prepared to take a few hours if you don't plan on appling. I took 2 hrs (lvl 116 Ranger) using Warrior Elixers. I tried an apple, but I died half way through it. What level is your Puppet? The extra seconds of timer really helped out, and even with a sexy 60-second timer, I'm sure I threw out several hundred puppets out there.

[explodingbbq]

Its like one of Newton's mass laws was credited to Galileo. Sure its not fair, but whenever I think of inertia I think of Galileo and his plantery motion laws.

Don't take this wrong - I don't mean to pick a fight, but I feel like either I'm misunderstanding what you're referring to or you are getting things a bit mixed up. If you're talking about Newton's first law, it's credited to Newton (at least insofar as it is called Newton's first law) but Galileo definitely discovered it first. He let stuff fall down very smooth inclined planes or something.

Sorry for being off topic. Thank you Isaac for describing that way of killing bigfoot. When I go home and have time I might try it.

[IsaacGS]

I've been wanting to solo a BF for a long time, but schools kept me busy from leveling high enough to actually do it without apples. ><

So my question here is; is it possible for me to solo BF in about an hour?

I'm level 93 and my range is 12xx ~ 21xx (can't remember it exactly).

With one apple and my gelt, do you guys think I could kill it? :\

Also, any tips on soloing it would help me greatly. :]
In an hour? No. I used apples for the whole time and it took me slightly less than an hour even at 10x. Probably more like an hour and a half to 2 hours, perhaps even more.

[Overdrive]

Thanks guys, I'll stock up on some apples and try to take him down over the weekend.

Hope I don't get ksed, LOL.

Also, I'll be at 0% so I'm not THAT worried about dying. On a side note if I die, does my apple run out? :\

[Mark]

Of course.

Good luck though.

[Technolink]

Don't take this wrong - I don't mean to pick a fight, but I feel like either I'm misunderstanding what you're referring to or you are getting things a bit mixed up. If you're talking about Newton's first law, it's credited to Newton (at least insofar as it is called Newton's first law) but Galileo definitely discovered it first. He let stuff fall down very smooth inclined planes or something.

Sorry for being off topic. Thank you Isaac for describing that way of killing bigfoot. When I go home and have time I might try it.

My bad, got em mixed up. Yea, Newton took Galileo's lesser known inertia laws. Why was I thinking planetary motion O_o


I've been wanting to solo a BF for a long time, but schools kept me busy from leveling high enough to actually do it without apples. ><

So my question here is; is it possible for me to solo BF in about an hour?

I'm level 93 and my range is 12xx ~ 21xx (can't remember it exactly).

With one apple and my gelt, do you guys think I could kill it? :\

Also, any tips on soloing it would help me greatly. :]

1250~2150 would take (standing there and sniping) 74 minutes, but you don't stand and snipe. You have to constantly recast puppet and the like.

The big issue is what level puppet you have, chances are its only level 6. Now with my level 6 puppet and no apples it took me over 2 hours to solo. I died well over 20 times, and there were 5 other people around, 1 of which nearly KSed me while this was happening.

You are better off just buying the pendent. With an apple it will still take 30 minutes, and its not unheard of to die during an apple (the apple will then disappear). You'll use a minimum of 4 apples -8M- per BF, and I've heard of people taking over 10 BFs to get the toe.

Try it once, even if you don't get the toe. Just make sure before you use an apple that you refine your technique. He should be at at least 7/8th HP before you use an apple, so you get a feel of every situation he can put you in.

[psychopat]

Took me about 2h with only warrior pills as well and my range is higher than 1250~2150. I think I had 15 puppet at the time.

I think it would be a real pain without at least 12 puppet. At least by then it can sometimes survive a hit when you mess up and it lets you get more than 20 seconds of hits in when you don't mess up.

I personally have no desire to kill him again at least until I get SE, specially since he doesn't even always drop the toe.

As for tips, all I can suggest is to reread the thread. Most of us mentioned how we did it already :)

[Overdrive]

I have 9 puppet btw.

After reading through everything thoroughly and getting owned, I've decided to try and solo him later on. I went there today (just leveled) and tried to get a feel for fighting it, it was hell -_-. I had to constantly recast puppet every 30 seconds or so, sometimes earlier because BF kept jumping onto the damn platform. The elder wraiths were what really screwed me over, mainly because of their KB glitch. I couldn't kill them fast enough and while I was doing so BF starting rampaging around.

I died at least 8(?) or so times.....I'll just pay my friend to get me the toe. XD