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Fiel
2010-08-30, 09:13 AM
Data is pretty scarce at the moment.

Oh, and yes they changed Guild Skills again. It's even more expensive.



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기사의 주문서
붉은 사자왕이 자신의 기사에게 지급하던 주문서이다. 사용하면 붉은 사자왕을 만날 수 있는 알현실로 이동된다.
Map Jump: 211070000
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Items per slot: 200
Level: 115


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Items per slot: 200
Level: 118


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Level: 120


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Items per slot: 200
Level: 122


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Items per slot: 200
Level: 125


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Items per slot: 200
Level: 127


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달빛소나타 악보
사라진 전설의 명곡 '달빛소나타'의 악보다. 희귀성 때문에 전문 수집상들 사이에서 꽤 고가의 가격으로 거래된다.
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오르골칩
오르골을 만들 때 사용하는 금속판이다.
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달빛소나타 오르골
태엽을 감아 돌리면 원통이 돌아가면서 '달빛소나타'를 연주하는 오르골이다. 골드리치가 특별히 제작하였다.
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젠의 동생
붉은 사자왕의 성에 잡혀 있던 젠의 동생이다. 젠에게 데려다 주자.
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첫번째 탑의 열쇠
붉은 사자왕의 성, 첫번째 탑의 탑루를 열 수 있는 열쇠이다.
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두번째 탑의 열쇠
붉은 사자왕의 성, 두번째 탑의 탑루를 열 수 있는 열쇠이다.
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세번째 탑의 열쇠
붉은 사자왕의 성, 세번째 탑의 탑루를 열 수 있는 열쇠이다.
Quest Item


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더러워진 기사의 주문서
붉은 사자왕이 자신의 기사에게 지급하던 기사의 주문서이다. 더러워져 사용할 수 없다.
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장미정원의 열쇠
붉은 사자왕이 자신의 왕비 이피아에게 만들어준 장미정원의 열쇠이다.
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플라워북
붉은 사자왕과 왕비 이피아가 함께 만든 플라워북이다.
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동맹의 증표
붉은 사자왕을 공격한 동맹의 병사들이 가지고 있던 동맹의 증표이다.
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이피아의 펜던트
붉은 사자왕의 왕비 이피아의 그림이 그려진 펜던트이다.
Quest Item






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문지기 크로키
Level: 115
HP: 7,400,000
EXP: 167,972
Physical Attack: 5800
Physical Defense: 1000
Magic Attack: 5700
Magic Defense: 950
Avoid: 169
Accuracy: 169
Speed: 10
Elements: Fire weak, Ice resist


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레인디어
Level: 118
HP: 8,700,000
EXP: 194,742
Physical Attack: 5890
Physical Defense: 1150
Magic Attack: 5750
Magic Defense: 1100
Avoid: 169
Accuracy: 225
Speed: 20
Elements: Ice resist


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블러드 레인디어
Level: 120
HP: 9,200,000
EXP: 203,977
Physical Attack: 6000
Physical Defense: 1000
Magic Attack: 5900
Magic Defense: 1350
Avoid: 225
Accuracy: 225
Speed: 20
Elements: Fire weak, Ice resist


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베어울프
Level: 122
HP: 9,600,000
EXP: 210,953
Physical Attack: 6050
Physical Defense: 1200
Magic Attack: 5900
Magic Defense: 1150
Avoid: 225
Accuracy: 169
Elements: Fire weak, Ice resist


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그레이 벌쳐
Level: 125
HP: 10,500,000
EXP: 227,676
Physical Attack: 6120
Physical Defense: 1000
Magic Attack: 5900
Magic Defense: 1350
Avoid: 225
Accuracy: 256
Speed: 20
Elements: Fire weak, Ice resist


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캐슬 골렘
Level: 127
HP: 12,500,000
EXP: 268,625
Physical Attack: 6250
Physical Defense: 1450
Magic Attack: 6050
Magic Defense: 1350
Avoid: 169
Accuracy: 225
Elements: Fire resist, Ice resist, Lightning resist, Poison immune





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Name: 반 레온
Function: 사자왕
"말에는 의미가 없다. 중요한 건 행동 뿐... 세월이 나에게 가르쳐 준 것은 그것뿐이지. "
"...말이 필요한가? 너와 나 사이에 있는 것은 오직 싸움뿐..."
"덤벼라. 정의도 논리도 필요하지 않다."


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Name: 이피아
Function: 왕비
"언젠가 그 분을 되돌려 놓을 수 있을 거라고 믿어요. 다정하고 상냥하던, 누구보다 따뜻한 가슴을 가졌던 그 분으로..."
"꽃도 나비도 사람들도 모두 사라졌어요. 남은 건 타오르는 불길 뿐... 아름답던 이 성이 어째서 이렇게 변해버린 걸까요."


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Name: 루덴
Function: 기사단장
"더 이상 무의미한 희생이 발생하는 걸 좌시할 수 없습니다."
"검은 마법사에게 영혼을 바친 왕... 그를 쓰러뜨릴 준비는 되셨습니까?"
"과거에는 왕을 위해 들었던 검을 지금은 왕께 겨누고 있습니다. 이것이 제 충성의 증명. 변해버린 왕을 막는 것이 그 분을 위한 길이라고 믿습니다."
"변해버린 왕을 막아야만 합니다. 무슨 수를 써서라도..."


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Name: 젠
Function: 열쇠공
"으아, 무서운 녀석들 투성이야. 난 여길 탈출하겠어!"
"도대체 이 성의 주인은 누구야? 왜 이런 짓을 벌이는 거지?"
"예전에는 분명 절벽 때문에 올 수 없는 곳이었는데... 어쩌다 보니 이 성에 도착해 버렸어. 대체 뭐지? 동생은 왜 여기 있는 거야? 누가 좀 알려줘!"
"솔직히 이대로 당장 도망가고 싶긴 하지만... 뭐, 비기! 죽은 척 하기!...만 있으면 언제든지 도망칠 수 있으니까 괜찮아. 도와줄 게 있으면 언제든지 말해."

Rob
2010-08-30, 09:16 AM
What is this?

iamflip
2010-08-30, 09:17 AM
Oh my. Could this... be the castle that was in the background of the El Nath maps?

Duelman
2010-08-30, 09:18 AM
I think we are looking at the mobs for the castle we have been speculating about in that general discussion thread.

A grown up version of Pepe's castle I guess, those mob hps/exp look very interesting for post big bang partying.

Deviant
2010-08-30, 09:19 AM
Oh my. Could this... be the castle that was in the background of the El Nath maps?

That was my first thought too.

It looks like a promising high level area, cant wait to see what comes of this.

shroum
2010-08-30, 09:21 AM
Love the flame castle thing XD
Grrr i might have to come back to kms :(

Rayquaza2233
2010-08-30, 09:22 AM
Sounds badass, it does. Where did you find the name, Fiel?

Fiel
2010-08-30, 09:23 AM
etc.921130000.streetName 붉은 사자왕의 성
etc.921130000.mapName 성 뒤안길
etc.921131000.streetName 붉은 사자왕의 성
etc.921131000.mapName 성 안전지대
etc.921133000.streetName 붉은 사자왕의 성
etc.921133000.mapName 아니의 수감실


The "9" continent is usually reserved for special maps like PQs and the like. Since the warp scroll has a 2 continent on it, I'm betting an area with a PQ attached.

Kalovale
2010-08-30, 09:24 AM
Seven of Spades?

madanthony
2010-08-30, 09:26 AM
I hope for a proper little town with some shop NPCs and a storage guy on account of the warp scrolls.

Intangible
2010-08-30, 09:30 AM
Defiantly has an El-Nathian feel to it *fingers crossed*

-Ghost-
2010-08-30, 09:36 AM
Nice looking enemies, but their HP is scary :ohno:

Index
2010-08-30, 09:39 AM
Mushroom Castle for grown-ups?

Alloy
2010-08-30, 09:41 AM
I love the tower guy. Also, this seems to be some kind of original PQ. The hp values have ridiculous values, so I bet there's a trick to it. Or simply something like a mini-dojo.

Deviant
2010-08-30, 09:44 AM
I love the tower guy. Also, this seems to be some kind of original PQ. The hp values have ridiculous values, so I bet there's a trick to it. Or simply something like a mini-dojo.

Eh I dunno, post BB you'll have people bringing stuff like that down in less than 20-30 seconds, maybe they're finally making an area thats more about killing high HP things for high exp, as opposed to mobbing things that are quick kills.

Doesnt seem likely though.

ItachiPower
2010-08-30, 09:47 AM
Looks like a new Guild PQ to me! Woot!!

Rob
2010-08-30, 09:48 AM
Also, lol at I/Ls getting all resistances here.

madanthony
2010-08-30, 09:49 AM
Any idea what kind of damage they do with those attack values?

Dusk
2010-08-30, 09:49 AM
Also, lol at I/Ls getting all resistances here.

>Elemental Reset


Any idea what kind of damage they do with those attack values?

Exactly what it says on the tin.

Fiel
2010-08-30, 09:49 AM
Any idea what kind of damage they do with those attack values?

They will do that number's worth of damage or lower. Never higher.

MetaSeraphim
2010-08-30, 09:50 AM
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/00339/2161000.png

Officially the most badass NPC in all of MapleStory.

Chuey
2010-08-30, 09:51 AM
Whatever this is, this is looking pretty cool so far. :f2:

Rob
2010-08-30, 09:55 AM
>Elemental Reset

Still, it' would've been fair if they did a couple F/P resistances and a couple I/L resistances.

madanthony
2010-08-30, 09:56 AM
They will do that number's worth of damage or lower. Never higher.
Oh. That makes sense. Didn't know they made that change.

Chameleonic
2010-08-30, 10:04 AM
Looks like a new Guild PQ to me! Woot!!

Please not another PQ, we have too many already. :f4::f5:

We need more stuff people can do on their own.

ItachiPower
2010-08-30, 10:15 AM
We've only got one. And those ghost NPC's remind me of the on in Guild PQ. My money's on another guild pq.

Aggravate
2010-08-30, 10:18 AM
We've only got one. And those ghost NPC's remind me of the on in Guild PQ. My money's on another guild pq.

Seems that way, but you never know. They could always put that "Alliance PQ" to good use too.

BandanaBoy
2010-08-30, 10:20 AM
Please not another PQ, we have too many already. :f4::f5:

We need more stuff people can do on their own.

You never know, it mite be just that o3o



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Officially the most badass NPC in all of MapleStory.

Agreed, and I SO WANT THAT HAIR NANO O:

FrozNlite
2010-08-30, 10:21 AM
Still, it' would've been fair if they did a couple F/P resistances and a couple I/L resistances.

Assuming we're still going around Paralyzing everything as opposed to Big Banging, it's not like it really matters, aside from the one Poison immune mob.

Resistances are a joke now for every class - it just means it's an element you have to stay away from lest your damage be cut. All that really matters are weaknesses, so classes know which skills will get the boost.

Rob
2010-08-30, 10:25 AM
Assuming we're still going around Paralyzing everything as opposed to Big Banging, it's not like it really matters, aside from the one Poison immune mob.

Resistances are a joke now for every class - it just means it's an element you have to stay away from lest your damage be cut. All that really matters are weaknesses, so classes know which skills will get the boost.

But that was my point :f3:. They get no advantages :/

holyforest
2010-08-30, 10:26 AM
Seems like it'll tie in to the gpq storyline...

Deviant
2010-08-30, 10:28 AM
Please not another PQ, we have too many already. :f4::f5:

We need more stuff people can do on their own.

Of course we'll get more PQs, its an MMO, if you want solo stuff, console games are probably more up your alley.

ZottenKerel
2010-08-30, 10:31 AM
The 169 or 225 avoid, does that mean 169 or 225 acc needed to hit (post-BB), or is it similair to nowm where it would mean about 500acc and 700acc needed to 100% hit.... lol

Fiel
2010-08-30, 10:33 AM
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=30129
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=30500

Intangible
2010-08-30, 10:33 AM
Seems like it'll tie in to the gpq storyline...

Ooooh, that'd be awesome, Victoria's history is always interesting.

Takebacker
2010-08-30, 10:33 AM
Really hoping they stick to high hp high exp mobs for this area. Training is way too bland with potential at O4.

Nigel
2010-08-30, 10:44 AM
Officially the most badass NPC in all of MapleStory.Yes he is :shine:

larmie
2010-08-30, 10:48 AM
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Name: 이피아
Function: 왕비
"언젠가 그 분을 되돌려 놓을 수 있을 거라고 믿어요. 다정하고 상냥하던, 누구보다 따뜻한 가슴을 가졌던 그 분으로..."
"꽃도 나비도 사람들도 모두 사라졌어요. 남은 건 타오르는 불길 뿐... 아름답던 이 성이 어째서 이렇게 변해버린 걸까요."

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Southperry/00339/2161002.png
Name: 루덴
Function: 기사단장
"더 이상 무의미한 희생이 발생하는 걸 좌시할 수 없습니다."
"검은 마법사에게 영혼을 바친 왕... 그를 쓰러뜨릴 준비는 되셨습니까?"
"과거에는 왕을 위해 들었던 검을 지금은 왕께 겨누고 있습니다. 이것이 제 충성의 증명. 변해버린 왕을 막는 것이 그 분을 위한 길이라고 믿습니다."
"변해버린 왕을 막아야만 합니다. 무슨 수를 써서라도..."
[/spoiler]

Seems pretty dead to me. A knight and a dead princess, hmm...sounds like Leafre: Raul and Moila I sense a sad ending, like Magatia: the story gets progressively darker as it goes on just like in Harry Potter



Looks like a new Guild PQ to me! Woot!!

I don't see a boss...


Really hoping they stick to high hp high exp mobs for this area. Training is way too bland with potential at O4.

The mobs have pretty high HP and defense rate post-BB and Neo Tokyo mobs will have like 1 to 3m HP post-BB.

Polka
2010-08-30, 10:57 AM
coolest monsters ever

Dusk
2010-08-30, 10:58 AM
But that was my point :f3:. They get no advantages :/

Neither do any of the other 15 or so classes that don't have access to a fire attack.

Polka
2010-08-30, 11:06 AM
Officially the most badass NPC in all of MapleStory.

hahaha he actually looks a lot like Id. dead eyes.

SwordStaker
2010-08-30, 11:09 AM
Woa this is AWESOME! 0.o I do suspect a higher leveled area, sort of like Neo City/Tokyo where you can go solo, but your best bet is in a party. Here Fiel it's from Spadow the login screen is pretty interesting

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/tver339worldselect.png
Notice the Castle?

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210002-attack1.gif?w=347&h=143
Skill look familiar? Thunder Spear?

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210000attack1.gif?w=430&h=224
Ground Smash?

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210005-attack1.gif?w=278&h=201
Cool

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210004-attack1.gif?w=311&h=164
Flying mob?

Corn
2010-08-30, 11:11 AM
Wow, KMS is actually not making another class for once.

Sn1perJohnE
2010-08-30, 11:21 AM
Hello high lvld pq.

Sorien
2010-08-30, 11:28 AM
I like the attacks that the mobs there use. :heart:
And I actually do kind of hope that it's a new guild pq, since the one we have now is getting kind of old.

Combattente
2010-08-30, 11:40 AM
This REALLY looks cool. I wonder what it is. Hoping for something related to the Black Magician. Maybe the storyline could be.

But yeah, it looks like a Party Quest to me. But where? Near El Nath, maybe?

And the NPC.. the most badass NPC in Maple's history. That's totally my new avatar.

Also, this monster:

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210003-attack1.gif?w=315&h=235

I went "lolwat" when I saw it.

Link
2010-08-30, 11:41 AM
A patch on the final day of KMST? What the hell is this? I don't even...




Seriously? You couldn't wait a day or two for the next phase to start?

Tikey
2010-08-30, 12:03 PM
Woa this is AWESOME! 0.o I do suspect a higher leveled area, sort of like Neo City/Tokyo where you can go solo, but your best bet is in a party. Here Fiel it's from Spadow the login screen is pretty interesting

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/tver339worldselect.png
Notice the Castle?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1beJEsS-W1Y

This looks like the castle part of the Big Bang trailer starting at 0:31. If it is, then Lionheart Castle is most likely related to the Black Magician and might be an El Nath expansion.

kirby756
2010-08-30, 12:14 PM
This looks really cool.

MetaSeraphim
2010-08-30, 12:22 PM
hahaha he actually looks a lot like Id. dead eyes.

Well, I didn't think of Id until a little later and mostly thinking of how he looks more awesome badass than the former NPC awesome badass Jack Barricade. But after I thought of it I thought they should give him a line such as this. "That was pretty interesting. But dropping a warship on me is cheating...Take it back!"

We need his hair in the game though. Best male hair I've seen in a while.

Worthyness
2010-08-30, 12:27 PM
If another pq is coming, i want a gpq cause the one we have now is just too easy now that my guild is 120+.

Combattente
2010-08-30, 12:31 PM
Judging by the login screen, it MIGHT be adventurer-only stuff.

Would be interesting if it was.

MetaSeraphim
2010-08-30, 12:34 PM
Judging by the login screen, it MIGHT be adventurer-only stuff.

Would be interesting if it was.

The banner reminds me of CWKPQ.

Worthyness
2010-08-30, 12:42 PM
bahh guild skills are still way more money than i can spare, and for 30 minutes too >.> It took me montsh to gather 1 mil. they could at least lower the renew rate. I don't mind the high purchase rate, but 10 mil for 30 minutes of 110% exp is still sad =(

Erebus
2010-08-30, 12:50 PM
I can't see any images.... all i see are the "SP" logos...

Link
2010-08-30, 12:55 PM
I can't see any images.... all i see are the "SP" logos...

Try clearing your cache and refreshing the page.

Erebus
2010-08-30, 12:58 PM
Try clearing your cache and refreshing the page.

tyvm

Satellite
2010-08-30, 01:07 PM
That NPC may look badass but it's way out of style of maple, he has way too much height. Like the tiger mount.

Kabanaw
2010-08-30, 01:16 PM
http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210004-attack1.gif?w=311&h=164
Flying mob?

It flies across the ground. See that cloud of dust after it attacks? Yeah, that won't look good if it's flying around.

IllegallySane
2010-08-30, 01:30 PM
This REALLY looks cool. I wonder what it is. Hoping for something related to the Black Magician. Maybe the storyline could be.

But yeah, it looks like a Party Quest to me. But where? Near El Nath, maybe?

And the NPC.. the most badass NPC in Maple's history. That's totally my new avatar.

Also, this monster:

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210003-attack1.gif?w=315&h=235

I went "lolwat" when I saw it.

Your avatar is too badass to be in Maple!

Also, lolwut at polar bear riding a wolf backwards. Who does he think he is, the Old Spice Man?

Duelman
2010-08-30, 01:31 PM
I dunno but it looks like he attacks in front and behind of it.

Satellite
2010-08-30, 01:38 PM
Duh, when the wolf is checking the other side, enemy can't attack from behind.

larmie
2010-08-30, 03:12 PM
Also, this monster:

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210003-attack1.gif?w=315&h=235

I went "lolwat" when I saw it.

A normal mob that attacks both sides...wouldn't make much of a difference if there's only one player character now does it? *wink wink*

Tay
2010-08-30, 03:13 PM
Please no disappoint.

Avior
2010-08-30, 03:23 PM
Please no disappoint.

it's like "please don't be nexon"


it LOOKS good but i think it doesn't

MetaSeraphim
2010-08-30, 03:26 PM
he has way too much height

He hardly has any height at all compared to some NPC's like T-1337. And I wish people would stop saying things look out of style in maple when it's impossible given all the different styles maple has in it.

Erich
2010-08-30, 03:30 PM
Your avatar is too badass to be in Maple!

Also, lolwut at polar bear riding a wolf backwards. Who does he think he is, the Old Spice Man?

http://images.memegenerator.net/This-thread-is-now-diamonds/ImageMacro/1985740/THIS-THREAD-IS-NOW-DIAMONDS.jpg

______
Resistance set a good trend if they're going to release classes; put it with an actual area in it. But this is ideal. High leveled stuff. Hopefully the story is actually.. good, so to say. Depending on what we actually see, that bright castle shown in the login or a darker (story-wise and physically) castle, like the "badlands" that comprises of the upper el-nath regions.

Baklava
2010-08-30, 03:40 PM
How come still no Charge Blow change. ;~;

Highly approve of new content, though.

Combattente
2010-08-30, 03:49 PM
Your avatar is too badass to be in Maple!

Also, lolwut at polar bear riding a wolf backwards. Who does he think he is, the Old Spice Man?

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/71/1280877727090.jpg

"Did you know that I'm riding this wolf backwards? HYAAH!"

shouri
2010-08-30, 04:00 PM
ITT: the occassional person or so who get overexcited and don't think about what they ask for. (I'm guilty of doing that too every now and then though :f3:)

^ in response to:

High exp, High HP mobs.

High HP mobs wont mean anything to a certain class with a OHKO move. If they stick to mobs with too much exp (that aren't bosses) marksmen would have a field day here. Arans wouldn't work here though since tempest doesn't work on ice resistant mobs.

Let's see... 5(?) second snipe... ~200k exp each snipe. 25 seconds for 1m exp. 1 second for 40,000 exp. so... 2.4m exp a minute... or over 120m exp an hour... on 1x

To survive here all they'd need is <decent> hyperbody. Or an HB mule.

So.... yeah.... asking for these to be normal mobs wouldn't be a good idea.

If they're PQ mobs, then all's good. Or if they aren't from a PQ and they have a boss flag, but have the spawn rate (and drop rate) of normal mobs then all's good.

Secun
2010-08-30, 04:03 PM
Your avatar is too badass to be in Maple!

Also, lolwut at polar bear riding a wolf backwards. Who does he think he is, the Old Spice Man?

More like Dudley Do-Right.

Tay
2010-08-30, 04:05 PM
Theory: Guild PQ expansion?

Random_Overlord
2010-08-30, 04:07 PM
Each of those mobs have like 5k+ w.att.

Does that mean they hit around 5 ~ 10 times bigfoot damage? Or is that just the ammount of hp damage they inflict on a 1:1 scale? :f4:

Takebacker
2010-08-30, 04:10 PM
Each of those mobs have like 5k+ w.att.

Does that mean they hit around 5 ~ 10 times bigfoot damage? Or is that just the ammount of hp damage they inflict on a 1:1 scale? :f4:

Maybe if you learned how to read you would see the answer to your question.

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=31253&p=522632&viewfull=1#post522632

Secun
2010-08-30, 04:14 PM
Maybe if you learned how to read you would see the answer to your question.

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=31253&p=522632&viewfull=1#post522632

Reading? On the Internet...? Heresy.

Solarboy
2010-08-30, 04:18 PM
It looks really nice, but I dont want to get my hopes up.

The npc is just... Wow!

IllegallySane
2010-08-30, 04:35 PM
Each of those mobs have like 5k+ w.att.

Does that mean they hit around 5 ~ 10 times bigfoot damage? Or is that just the ammount of hp damage they inflict on a 1:1 scale? :f4:

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/polar-bear-face-palm.thumbnail.jpg

... It was right there on page 1.



Exactly what it says on the tin.


They will do that number's worth of damage or lower. Never higher.

http://mikedinthehead.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/facepalm3.jpg

Alilatias
2010-08-30, 05:07 PM
Trying to translate all of this stuff... Third NPC (whose function translates to "Article Director") says some pretty intresting things. The second line says something like, "Black Wizard, who gave my soul to the king... Are you ready to take him down?"

It also appears that the castle in question is abandoned. Second NPC's function is listed as "Queen".

JoeTang
2010-08-30, 05:30 PM
>Ice Resist

Fuck my life.

aslemn
2010-08-30, 05:34 PM
That NPC looks badass, but unless he's a giant, he's too much out of MS graphics. He has like twice the size of a MS character.

0^2
2010-08-30, 05:35 PM
Not like the elemental resistances will matter for mages due to elemental reset. All of these mobs resist ice which suggests theyre in a cold region...

zesdac
2010-08-30, 05:39 PM
Still, it' would've been fair if they did a couple F/P resistances and a couple I/L resistances.

but why is there no holy weak monsters, absolutely unfair to bishops

Zacairga
2010-08-30, 05:40 PM
What's this? Monsters that are somewhat high level? NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE!


but why no holy weak monsters, absolutely unfair to bishops

There also aren't any dagger weak monsters. This is unfair to Shadowers and Dual Blades.

CommanderJinn
2010-08-30, 05:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1beJEsS-W1Y

This looks like the castle part of the Big Bang trailer starting at 0:31. If it is, then Lionheart Castle is most likely related to the Black Magician and might be an El Nath expansion.

That castle used background sprites from mushroom castle. Every single piece of animation regarding background were reused (ie. inside the castle is the orbis guildhall)

HeroDDC
2010-08-30, 05:52 PM
The Castle Golem looks awesome :heart:

ChaosCorpse
2010-08-30, 06:37 PM
This is what I've been waiting for as a Snipe first Marksman... although, they took quite a bit of a jump here I wasn't expecting. Quite frankly, too big of a jump to the point it would be too good to be true for these to be regular spawning mobs without boss tags. Only thing that could make it better would be them spawning on a map like gatekeepers to not get run over by them.

My only hope is that once they see that problem a boss tag is the solution rather than changing snipe again to work with the content (curse you new acc making snipe miss :f4:).

EDIT: Is there anything in the data to determine auto-aggro? If they aren't auto-aggro and have limited spawn, being careful you can snipe train without HB. I suppose being ice resistant would only be a fair set-back to MMs if this truely is the case.

SwordStaker
2010-08-30, 07:17 PM
but why is there no holy weak monsters, absolutely unfair to bishops
Bishops have an unfair advantage already in this game. About 75&#37; of the monsters are holy weak, why are you complaining?

Takebacker
2010-08-30, 07:19 PM
Instead of whining over lack of holy weakness you should be relieved they didn't make them holy resistant or immune.

Bishes keep b'itching over stupid s'hit. >_>

iamflip
2010-08-30, 07:29 PM
Instead of whining over lack of holy weakness you should be relieved they didn't make them holy resistant or immune.

Bishes keep b'itching over stupid s'hit. >_>

Like how we're screwed from TT? :D :f3:

On topic before topic goes in flames: How much are the guild skills now?

Takebacker
2010-08-30, 07:32 PM
Like how we're screwed from TT? :D :f3:

On topic before topic goes in flames: How much are the guild skills now?

Check spadows blog. The 1.1x exp is 10m for half an hour at max level, and so is the 20 attack buff.

IsaacGS
2010-08-30, 08:15 PM
Instead of whining over lack of holy weakness you should be relieved they didn't make them holy resistant or immune.

Bishes keep b'itching over stupid s'hit. >_>
Seriously. Think about all the monsters that are resistant to Darkness, Bishops really have no right to be complaining at all. Makes you wonder why they even bothered with dark element.

On the topic of whatever this castle is, not enough information to be making a judgment yet.

kremechoko
2010-08-30, 08:21 PM
This is what I think it is.

The monsters have too high of an HP to be regular mobs.
So they surely are used for a PQ of some sort. I will guess right now that it's a GPQ2 thing or so because of the new KMS login screen having some sort of castle on the left. That and the login screen was meant for the guild skills.
It's all guild related.
Again, this is what I think.

IllegallySane
2010-08-30, 08:37 PM
Check spadows blog. The 1.1x exp is 10m for half an hour at max level, and so is the 20 attack buff.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffft. EXP and bonus ATK are now a true meso sink, and the other skills are now loluseless. Way to go kMS for making there no reason to cast any of the minor guild buffs. At the very least the 10&#37; EXP and +20 ATK I can understand should be used only for bossing or to grind on maximum EXP rates.

Polka
2010-08-30, 08:43 PM
10&#37; exp isn't worth more than 50k. i've got a bridge to sell anyone who pays that.

larmie
2010-08-30, 09:06 PM
10&#37; exp isn't worth more than 50k. i've got a bridge to sell anyone who pays that.

You need half as much EXP post-BB so it's like 20%, on top of 2x card, 1.5x HS and 1.2x family (plus 2x internet cafe, 1.1 monster card and any events), so it's more like 72% exp counting just the first three (126% if you count all six).

Polka
2010-08-30, 09:21 PM
You need half as much EXP post-BB so it's like 20&#37;, on top of 2x card, 1.5x HS and 1.2x family (plus 2x internet cafe, 1.1 monster card and any events), so it's more like 72% exp counting just the first three (126% if you count all six).

for 10m.

discount the internet cafe bonus from gms. the monster card bonus because currently they don't exist and there's no indication they'll ever be back, against the hopes and wishes of many. not everyone has access to hs. and 10m for an extra 10% on top of $2 for a 2x card isn't worth it.

the cost is too high.

byakugan
2010-08-30, 09:25 PM
Let's see... 5(?) second snipe... ~200k exp each snipe. 25 seconds for 1m exp. 1 second for 40,000 exp. so... 2.4m exp a minute... or over 120m exp an hour... on 1x

After big bang, snipe does 1 million DMG every 4 seconds. Or it was like that last time i checked.

If it were not for marksmen, I would say that high HP/EXP monsters would be a great system to add to MS that would revive partying with over 3 people once again. I've seen it in other games and its great (In Silk Road they have Regular, Champion and Giant Monsters in all maps)... but ohh marksmen, you and your stupid snipe have to get into the way :f3:

shouri
2010-08-30, 09:31 PM
After big bang, snipe does 1 million DMG every 4 seconds. Or it was like that last time i checked.

If it were not for marksmen, I would say that high HP/EXP monsters would be a great system to add to MS that would revive partying with over 3 people once again. I've seen it in other games and its great (In Silk Road they have Regular, Champion and Giant Monsters in all maps)... but ohh marksmen, you and your stupid snipe have to get into the way :f3:

After big bang sniper does 1m dmg to boss monsters since it can't auto-kill em. Anything non boss will still die instantly.

bio9205
2010-08-30, 10:07 PM
Also, this monster:

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8210003-attack1.gif?w=315&h=235

I went "lolwat" when I saw it.

Buttsecks, baby.

The mobs look awesome. I agree - seems like some sort of PQ. Maybe a dungeon of sorts, or a sequel to Mushroom Castle?

Xiger
2010-08-30, 10:19 PM
Yes, possible Mushroom Kindgom expansion? =o

SwordStaker
2010-08-30, 10:47 PM
there's no indication they'll ever be back, against the hopes and wishes of many.
You do realize the MAJOR amount of revamping its gonna take just for those card right?

Polka
2010-08-30, 10:55 PM
You do realize the MAJOR amount of revamping its gonna take just for those card right?

you do realize there's still no indication they'll ever be back right? it would be easier for nexon to just scrap it at this point

Fiel
2010-08-30, 10:56 PM
I don't see why it would take so much revamping to do it.

Much of the data that was included in the monsterbook was fully dynamic with mob.wz. The drop tables can be pulled out with a simple query. Considering the complexity of the UI that they use even for basic events, I don't think creating a MB UI would be too bad. The time intensive thing would be to change all of the ETC stuff to have the correct levels. The lore can largely stay the same as well.

So what is it about Monsterbook that would take so long? I'm not seeing it.

SwordStaker
2010-08-30, 10:59 PM
I don't see why it would take so much revamping to do it.

Much of the data that was included in the monsterbook was fully dynamic with mob.wz. The drop tables can be pulled out with a simple query. Considering the complexity of the UI that they use even for basic events, I don't think creating a MB UI would be too bad. The time intensive thing would be to change all of the ETC stuff to have the correct levels. The lore can largely stay the same as well.

So what is it about Monsterbook that would take so long? I'm not seeing it.
Well there is also the possibility they're changing it from the ground up like they did the whole game, plus if the Black Mage screwed everything up, SOME but not all of the lore could change a little.

Fiel
2010-08-30, 11:01 PM
Regardless of how much current events change, George Washington still chopped down the cherry tree.

So your argument is based upon the fact that they'll change this from the ground up? Perhaps. I really can't deny your point because I don't know. But this should not take long.

Kalovale
2010-08-30, 11:06 PM
That NPC looks badass, but unless he's a giant, he's too much out of MS graphics. He has like twice the size of a MS character.

How is this a problem at all? Grendel is twice the size of my fucking grandpa. Personally, I hope this is some sort of Mushroom Kingdom or GPQ expansion, but the number of new NPCs seems too small for either.

SwordStaker
2010-08-30, 11:18 PM
Regardless of how much current events change, George Washington still chopped down the cherry tree.

So your argument is based upon the fact that they'll change this from the ground up? Perhaps. I really can't deny your point because I don't know. But this should not take long.
Well I don't know, thats just my assumption =\ I guess I can agree that it's taking longer than usual, but why put so much effort into it then just take it out. I don't think it's gone but..it'll come back I can almost promise that, sooner or later it will.

I keep saying that about Masteria..but hey on the bright side of that note, the years not over yet and they seem to do one expansion a year?

Hazzy
2010-08-30, 11:39 PM
So right after they expand high level mobs, they go back to making mobs for the 120ish range? .__.
Temple of Time revolves around lv 120 weapons; the mobs there shouldn't extend much from that range.

Combattente
2010-08-31, 02:37 AM
If they really are normal mobs and spawn like normal mobs, this is going to be Marksmen's heaven. But something tells me that they aren't.

Anyways, the new guild skill prices are ridiculous. 250m to buy the skill and 10m to renew it, for 10&#37; EXP? Does it stack with Family and 2x EXP? IF and only IF it does, I might accept those prices as "almost reasonable". If it doesn't, they totally aren't.

And sorry, but even after reading Spadow's blog, I still don't understand. You pay 200k, 1.6m, 54m, etc. just to raise the skill level (and everyone in the guild will have that skill with that level), or to CAST it? If it's to cast it, does every one in the guild get the skill? Else, what's the price to cast it? The renewal price, that should be kind of clear: it's to renew the buff and make it last longer. But 250m just to CAST seems a bit too much.

Cancambo
2010-08-31, 02:45 AM
If they really are normal mobs and spawn like normal mobs, this is going to be Marksmen's heaven. But something tells me that they aren't.

Anyways, the new guild skill prices are ridiculous. 250m to buy the skill and 10m to renew it, for 10&#37; EXP? Does it stack with Family and 2x EXP? IF and only IF it does, I might accept those prices as "almost reasonable". If it doesn't, they totally aren't.

And sorry, but even after reading Spadow's blog, I still don't understand. You pay 200k, 1.6m, 54m, etc. just to raise the skill level (and everyone in the guild will have that skill with that level), or to CAST it? If it's to cast it, does every one in the guild get the skill? Else, what's the price to cast it? The renewal price, that should be kind of clear: it's to renew the buff and make it last longer. But 250m just to CAST seems a bit too much.

There are no more family 2x buffs. There are only self 1.2x EXP/drop, one for 15 minutes, and the other for 30 minutes.

PirateIzzy
2010-08-31, 03:52 AM
There are no more family 2x buffs. There are only self 1.2x EXP/drop, one for 15 minutes, and the other for 30 minutes.

Do 2x cards still give 2x exp, or was that changed to 1.5x too?
Or does KMS not have them?

JoeTang
2010-08-31, 03:59 AM
Do 2x cards still give 2x exp, or was that changed to 1.5x too?
Or does KMS not have them?

There are no 2x cards.

PirateIzzy
2010-08-31, 04:01 AM
There are no 2x cards.

Ah, I see.
I wonder what Nexon America is gonna do about them.

Daimean
2010-08-31, 04:56 AM
Mushroom Castle for grown-ups?
That was my guess..

Chameleonic
2010-08-31, 06:26 AM
I wonder if Lionheart and Crimsonheart are brothers...

Combattente
2010-08-31, 06:35 AM
There are no more family 2x buffs. There are only self 1.2x EXP/drop, one for 15 minutes, and the other for 30 minutes.

Oh, right, sorry. Forgot about that. Still, that doesn't answer my question.

Also, I heard there were a 1.5x buff and a 1.2x one, not just a 1.2x one. Is that true?

shouri
2010-08-31, 06:39 AM
1.5x is for family bonding. meaning you and the 6 people directly below you need to simultaneously be on.

IImaplers
2010-08-31, 08:34 AM
Yay for fire-weak mobs. If this is in El Nath, then it certainly makes sense that most of them are fire-weak.

larmie
2010-08-31, 09:00 AM
I wonder if Lionheart and Crimsonheart are brothers...

Doubtful since Crimsonheart is called Crimson n JMS CWK (version w/o Masteria) and KMS has the same.

Since CWK is connected via Aqua Road it is plausible CWK is somewhere in El Nath (in KMS and JMS). Masteria might be put to death soon to keep continuity.

Masteria devs should be treated as Gods for bringing Olivia into the game. Maplestory is now DIAMONDS (in October)

Alloy
2010-08-31, 09:36 AM
Doubtful since Crimsonheart is called Crimson n JMS CWK (version w/o Masteria) and KMS has the same.[/COLOR]

KMS doesn't have it. None of them.

SwordStaker
2010-08-31, 10:51 AM
Doubtful since Crimsonheart is called Crimson n JMS CWK (version w/o Masteria) and KMS has the same.

Since CWK is connected via Aqua Road it is plausible CWK is somewhere in El Nath (in KMS and JMS). Masteria might be put to death soon to keep continuity.

Masteria devs should be treated as Gods for bringing Olivia into the game. Maplestory is now DIAMONDS (in October)
They wouldn't get rid of it. Think of the MAJOR uproar by the players that would cause.OCTOBER IS MASTERIA MONTH =O

zesdac
2010-08-31, 11:23 AM
Bishops have an unfair advantage already in this game. About 75&#37; of the monsters are holy weak, why are you complaining?

I don't think so. As you can see on one of the web page of the KMS official website : http://maple.inven.co.kr/dataninfo/monster/list.php?minlevel=121
The proportion of the monsters with different properties scattered around Maple Story is almost the same.
In Taiwanese Maple Story (TMS) in which I am playing now, there are fire/poison/ice/lightning elemental staffs. When you arm yourself with a fire elemental staff, your fire elemental magic damage will be multiplied by 125% and your poison elemental magic damage will be multiplied by 110% , the same with other elemental staffs.
Speaking of the skills, the range of Angel's Ray is pitifully short and the speed is pitifully slow compared with Chain Lightning and Paralyze, and more importantly, Bishops don't have Magic Boost (raising attack speed by 2 levels) and Amplification (multiplying elemental magic damage by 150% only with the consumption of 160% MP) , geez, I have no idea how Bishops will struggle to survive in such a critical situation after Big Bang.

Hopefully you guys can understand what I typed above coz' my mother tongue is not English but Taiwanese and Chinese.

By level 200 Bishop in TMS
My ID:法師killer

speck1231
2010-08-31, 12:54 PM
a comment from before mentioned that the same castle was in the big bang video at 0:34, thing is that castle is indeed mushroom kingdom. the same flag is being displayed at the new menu screen with all the explorers on it, just gotta look close enough. this might further prove that its a mush kingdom expansion.

aslemn
2010-08-31, 01:01 PM
Well... They've used that castle in both Big Bang trailer and the actual login screen. Or they're just too lazy to design a new area, or this is just an expansion for Mushroom Castle.
I'll stick with the first option tho.

SwordStaker
2010-08-31, 01:04 PM
a comment from before mentioned that the same castle was in the big bang video at 0:34, thing is that castle is indeed mushroom kingdom. the same flag is being displayed at the new menu screen with all the explorers on it, just gotta look close enough. this might further prove that its a mush kingdom expansion.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd3/swordstaker/KMST.png

Your right! Got a picture of the whole castle^

Dusk
2010-08-31, 02:17 PM
I don't think so. As you can see on one of the web page of the KMS official website : http://maple.inven.co.kr/dataninfo/monster/list.php?minlevel=121
The proportion of the monsters with different properties scattered around Maple Story is almost the same.
In Taiwanese Maple Story (TMS) in which I am playing now, there are fire/poison/ice/lightning elemental staffs. When you arm yourself with a fire elemental staff, your fire elemental magic damage will be multiplied by 125&#37; and your poison elemental magic damage will be multiplied by 110% , the same with other elemental staffs.
Speaking of the skills, the range of Angel's Ray is pitifully short and the speed is pitifully slow compared with Chain Lightning and Paralyze, and more importantly, Bishops don't have Magic Boost (raising attack speed by 2 levels) and Amplification (multiplying elemental magic damage by 150% only with the consumption of 160% MP) , geez, I have no idea how Bishops will struggle to survive in such a critical situation after Big Bang.

Hopefully you guys can understand what I typed above coz' my mother tongue is not English but Taiwanese and Chinese.

By level 200 Bishop in TMS
My ID:法師killer

Angel Ray has the same range as Paralyze, Booster only increases attack speed by 1 level, you have higher base attack on your skills to partially account for Amp, and you have a 55% base crit rate. Bishops are supposed to be weaker because they play a support role. HS, Heal, and Res are skills I'd love to have. Also, you're not that much weaker.

Avior
2010-08-31, 02:57 PM
thats looks like that castle where Dances with balrog, Really old grendel, and that archer from henesys [lol forgot]
sit on big bang trailer.

IsaacGS
2010-08-31, 03:08 PM
Doubtful since Crimsonheart is called Crimson n JMS CWK (version w/o Masteria) and KMS has the same.

Since CWK is connected via Aqua Road it is plausible CWK is somewhere in El Nath (in KMS and JMS). Masteria might be put to death soon to keep continuity.

Masteria devs should be treated as Gods for bringing Olivia into the game. Maplestory is now DIAMONDS (in October)
Because a localized version has never altered KMS's content to fit their own needs...

Oh wait a minute, JMS Kerning Square/Evan/DB...

Lozmaster
2010-08-31, 03:17 PM
Doubtful since Crimsonheart is called Crimson n JMS CWK (version w/o Masteria) and KMS has the same.

Since CWK is connected via Aqua Road it is plausible CWK is somewhere in El Nath (in KMS and JMS). Masteria might be put to death soon to keep continuity.


Masteria is nowhere near Elnath, it takes one minute travel time to get there from kerning, it's obviously just off the coast near victoria/kerning.

Then there is the small part about the entire continent of Masteria being risen from the sea by the mayor... JMS just pineappleed it up, and shouldn't even be in consideration for the continuity of the place. Just like Neo city isn't the *real* thing, neo tokyo is...

zesdac
2010-08-31, 05:20 PM
Angel Ray has the same range as Paralyze, Booster only increases attack speed by 1 level, you have higher base attack on your skills to partially account for Amp, and you have a 55&#37; base crit rate. Bishops are supposed to be weaker because they play a support role. HS, Heal, and Res are skills I'd love to have. Also, you're not that much weaker.

No, the correct information is that Magic Boost really raises attack speed by 2 levels no matter the skill is at which level.
Not only what I have mentioned before, lots of I/L and F/P Archmage's skills are attached with damage over time (DoT), additionally, it is effective to bosses and each every different Dot (including Dot of each every poison and ice elemental skills) can exist together to one monster. It is another big blow to Bishops.
You said a Bishop is supposed to help others, but do you know that no one has obligation to help others without any feedback. It feels very bad like we Bishops are just slaves.

Erich
2010-08-31, 05:32 PM
You need to remember two things about masteria:
A.) More then one of the original minds behind masteria don't work for nexon anymore.
B.)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x190/loose24/ripmasteria.png

MorbidMagus
2010-08-31, 05:37 PM
No, the correct information is that Magic Boost really raises attack speed by 2 levels no matter the skill is at which level.
Not only what I have mentioned before, lots of I/L and F/P Archmage's skills are attached with damage over time (DoT), additionally, it is effective to bosses and each every different Dot (including Dot of each every poison and ice elemental skills) can exist together to one monster. It is another big blow to Bishops.
You said a Bishop is supposed to help others, but do you know that no one has obligation to help others without any feedback. It feels very bad like we Bishops are slaves.

Why is there always someone complaining about Bishops not being on par with a Damage dealing class in terms of DPS?

If you dont like a supportive role of a Bishop and want more DPS, here's an idea, make an Archmage. Bishops will never die and will always be wanted in parties, and come with training speeds on par with the other magicians. Not to mention high survivability and still rather decent DPS for such an supportive class. It highly depends on your equipment these days anyways, a well-funded Bishop could easily out damage a Corsair, let alone an lolArchmage.

Erich
2010-08-31, 05:39 PM
Why is there always someone complaining about Bishops not being on par with a Damage dealing class in terms of DPS?

If you dont like a supportive role of a Bishop and want more DPS, here's an idea, make an Archmage.

This. And this only. Bishops were supposed to be a support class since planning; fudging the skills a little is why bishops are what they are now.

andyandythin
2010-08-31, 06:43 PM
You need to remember two things about masteria:
A.) More then one of the original minds behind masteria don't work for nexon anymore.
B.)
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x190/loose24/ripmasteria.png

super.awesome.picture

larmie
2010-08-31, 08:54 PM
I noticed today that there's an unexplored mine entrance in Sharp Cliff II in El Nath.
:monocle:


Masteria is nowhere near Elnath, it takes one minute travel time to get there from kerning, it's obviously just off the coast near victoria/kerning.

Then there is the small part about the entire continent of Masteria being risen from the sea by the mayor... JMS just pineappleed it up, and shouldn't even be in consideration for the continuity of the place. Just like Neo city isn't the *real* thing, neo tokyo is...

I believe China MS also has nerfed CWK (I was wrong about KMS; KMS doesn't have it at all). I doubt Neo Tokyo will fit in with the rest of the versions though; the cities Odaiba, Akihabara, Shibuya and Roppongi is maybe known by japanophiles. I doubt BMS or EMS would know where they are. I suppose versions that implement their own content and ties it in with the main storyline are screwed.

Kalemora
2010-09-01, 12:20 AM
Placing my bets on it being the castle in El Nath with those elemental resistances and weaknesses. Hope it turns out to be something fun.

Draego
2010-09-01, 02:21 AM
Officially the most badass NPC in all of MapleStory.

Your Avatar and that seems to have a big resemblance. :f2:

larmie
2010-09-01, 03:17 PM
Because a localized version has never altered KMS's content to fit their own needs...

Oh wait a minute, JMS Kerning Square/Evan/DB...

I just noticed your post: Kerning Square is Taipei 101. It's called KS in every version but TMS to avoid political conflict (as if that's a legit. concern in a kids' video game :/)

Evan and Dual Blade has been significantly altered and I'm concerned if Nexon Japan can keep up with further story dev on its own.

IsaacGS
2010-09-01, 06:37 PM
*sigh*

I was listing those as examples of how Content that was "mainstream" (IE first released in KMS) has been previously adapted to the version rather than just taken as they are. I *know* that KMS based Kerning Square off Taipei 101, but the plotline of Kerning Square's quests and of Taipei 101, the monster levels, how it's reached, even what monsters are there (Claw machines from Ximending randomly being added in there). It has nothing to do with "political conflicts" or anything. They (KMS) changed it around the same way they changed around Neo Tokyo into Neo City, the same way they took Singapore's shredded remains and sewed it back together into the Ghost Ship PQ. Yes they're based on version-exclusives, but trying to say Kerning Square is the same thing as Taipei 101 is like saying that JMS Crimsonwood is the same as GMS's. It's the same pieces, but it's put together in a different way.

As for what I was ACTUALLY referring to there by mentioning Kerning Square, it was that the questline in JMS's Kerning Square is radically different from the one in KMS et al. Just look: http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=26945&highlight=Kerning+Square. I think that thread explains it enough for my point to be obvious now.

Erich
2010-09-01, 07:09 PM
The reason for that might be JMS has all of formosa BUT taipei 101; taipei 101 can still be released. There can be overlapping mobs, as kerning square did prove, because kerning square ripped off a bit of night market's mobs to do this. The Fomorsa dogs are also tutorial monsters in the JMS evan.

TL;DR: Mobs can have more then one incarnation. NPCs cannot.

IsaacGS
2010-09-01, 07:22 PM
Ken and Jack are wondering why they look so much alike.

Polka
2010-09-01, 07:40 PM
Ken and Jack are wondering why they look so much alike.

ken is jack's descendant. you time travel. noob.

god don't you know anything about maple or even science fiction for that matter

Veneni
2010-09-03, 04:18 AM
ken is jack's descendant. you time travel. noob.

god don't you know anything about maple or even science fiction for that matter

LIES! Ken traveled back in time to save the earth from the aliens but accidently ended up in John Barricade's moms belly so she thought she was pregnant en pooped him out. Thank god ken has a babyface so noone was suspicious about him but to be sure there was noone else from the future around he changed his name to jack. Then he went to go find the aliens but got lost in crimsonwood. god don't you know anything about maple or even science fiction for that matter eh DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRR

PirateIzzy
2010-09-03, 04:19 AM
ken is jack's descendant. you time travel. noob.

god don't you know anything about maple or even science fiction for that matter

You just made me lol so hard, saying Isaac knows nothing about Maple.

HighOnMushrooms
2010-09-03, 11:36 AM
Trying to translate all of this stuff... Third NPC (whose function translates to "Article Director") says some pretty intresting things. The second line says something like, "Black Wizard, who gave my soul to the king... Are you ready to take him down?"

It also appears that the castle in question is abandoned. Second NPC's function is listed as "Queen".
The NPC says "The king who gave his soul to the Black Magician... are you ready to defeat him?"

destinyking
2010-09-04, 06:18 AM
damages.. hmm. May be :P

zesdac
2010-09-05, 09:14 PM
Fiel or anyone who can answer, could I bother you with this question that a bunch of Taiwan Maple Story players would like to know? thanks a lot.

Q: Is there still any different formula for double/triple throw after Big Bang ?
(After Big Bang, normally the basic Max damage formula for Night Lords is 1.75&#215;( LUK&#215;4 +DEX ) &#215; WATK &#247;100 and the basic Min damage is the result &#215; their mastery percentage.)

Fiel
2010-09-05, 09:16 PM
No, there is no different formula for double/triple throw. It uses a multiplier from the standard damage formula.

Takebacker
2010-09-05, 09:16 PM
L7/TT are calculated like every other attack after BB. Damage range * skill &#37;.

zesdac
2010-09-06, 12:07 AM
No, there is no different formula for double/triple throw. It uses a multiplier from the standard damage formula.

oh, thanks.

zesdac
2010-09-06, 12:12 AM
L7/TT are calculated like every other attack after BB. Damage range * skill &#37;.

and thank you as well.

Tikkuni
2010-09-06, 03:54 AM
I supposed ->> This is guild party quest.

I can read Korean because i am an korean

Alloy
2010-09-06, 04:07 PM
I need to know more about that cool looking guy.

SwordStaker
2010-09-07, 08:45 AM
I need to know more about that cool looking guy.
He's probably the PQ starter I would think. This is a kind of content we cannot tell about until it comes out so this is a more of a wait and see deal.