Dual Blades CAN do CWKPQ!

[PirateIzzy]

Sup, Southperry.
I'm sure many of you are wondering if DBs can CWKPQ or not.
This SS is proof that Dual Blades are able to CWKPQ.
http://s653.photobucket.com/albums/uu255/izzydafighta/Maple0150.jpg

[Will]

Okay

[SlayerZach]

Good to see that we have cold hard evidence! :glitter:

[PirateIzzy]

Good to see that we have cold hard evidence! :glitter:

Good to see that I won't need a HTP for my DB.

[MetaSeraphim]

Free +10 attack +300 HP Pendants for every Dual Blader level 90 and over!!!

[Devil]

Excellent work Nexon America!

However, can they activate the sirgils with DBlade booster / haste?

[ArbalistMaster]

They shouldn't be able to. the sigils check for specific skill IDs, so unless they can be activated with a first job skill (disorder, dark sight, double stab), DBs wont be able to do it

[Dusk]

Good to see that I won't need a HTP for my DB.

HTP can be potentialed. MoN is just a cheap alternative now.

[Holypie]

Can't MoNs be potentialed too? Or are they unpotentialable?

[MariaColette]

Can't MoNs be potentialed too? Or are they unpotentialable?

You can't potential them, at least according to what others say. Never tried myself.

[PirateIzzy]

HTP can be potentialed. MoN is just a cheap alternative now.

I know, but MoN is a lot cheaper than HTP.

[Withstanding]

Can't MoNs be potentialed too? Or are they unpotentialable?

As far as I'm aware, you can only potential items that have (the capacity to have) slots.

[Erich]

It was expected, because they are adventurers even by the data's concern. The script probably checks for any (job) id with 3 digits or any id under 999.

[FrozNlite]

Confirmation that average DBs become more broken!

[Kalovale]

You can't potential a MoN, period.
I'm still going to spam loot HTPs and use MoN in the mean while, if I ever make it to 120+ on my DB.

[Withstanding]

The question becomes HTP vs. MoN then.

300 HP, 8-12 WA vs. +17 allstat and potential for potential (lol).

Urgh.

[Devil]

The advantage that a MoN has for DBlades is the extra watt boost for their Katara damage range (which is half of their dagger watt).

It's the same with Ciders, check the damage increase on the Katara hits vs the damage increase with Ciders on the Dagger hits, you'll be amazed.

And with MoN + Ciders (or apples...) Dual Blades get boosted more then with a HTP on the Katara damage, even if you'll have a Potentialled HTP. :)

I'm not saying HTP's are a bad choice btw... They also give some massive wdef, which can be usefull for DBlade's survival after Big Bang...

[Avior]

maybe they can to get in, but can't attack thief's stone.

[Lozmaster]

And with MoN + Ciders (or apples...) Dual Blades get boosted more then with a HTP on the Katara damage, even if you'll have a Potentialled HTP. :)


Ugh. Are you really suggesting that a ton of extra luck won't beat out a 10-12 points in weapon attack? Obviously if you have enough mesos a potential'd HTP is infinitely better than MoN...

[Devil]

Well it's the problem how Maple works...

It's the same way how Night Lords profit most of Onyx Apples because their natural low base watt.

But it's most noticable on bosses with high wdef, low damage range classes always get the most hit by wdef. And that's in this case the Katara low damage range.

[iFrancisco]

But it's most noticable on bosses with high wdef, low damage range classes always get the most hit by wdef. And that's in this case the Katara low damage range.


All classes (over the mosnter's level) get affected by defense equally, no? What I mean by that is, defense is applied on a per 100% damage range basis and does not apply literally on your range itself nor does it discriminate on low damage range classes.


Ugh. Are you really suggesting that a ton of extra luck won't beat out a 10-12 points in weapon attack? Obviously if you have enough mesos a potential'd HTP is infinitely better than MoN...

Couldn't agree more. I am not sure how there could even be an argument when the HTP can potentially (haha) get +18% of your main stat, which at level 200 can mean as much 40-50 attack.

[TugboatWilly]

i might settle for a mon until htp price calms down so this is good to know. :wink:

[MetaSeraphim]

A 20 attack, 40 stat, +9% +9% +9% to luk CHTP is so obviously better than MoN's or HTP's.

[Lozmaster]

Well it's the problem how Maple works...

It's the same way how Night Lords profit most of Onyx Apples because their natural low base watt.

But it's most noticable on bosses with high wdef, low damage range classes always get the most hit by wdef. And that's in this case the Katara low damage range.

Do I need to phrase it as "No, you are wrong you moron" to make you stop and think? You don't understand how up to possibly several hundred luck could be better than 10 attack?

[IllegallySane]

A 20 attack, 40 stat, +9% +9% +9% to luk CHTP is so obviously better than MoN's or HTP's.

http://spadow.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/chaoshorntailnecklace.png?w=232&h=433

Chaos Horntail Necklace

+10 AllStat
+10% HP and MP
+2 Weapon Attack and Magic Attack
+140 Physical and Magic Defense
+32 Avoidability
4 Slots


Chaos HTPs, egged once:
25-all
2 atk/matk
10% hp/mp

Where did you even get the 20 attack and 40 stats from? You're just spouting out nonsense.

[MetaSeraphim]

Where did you even get the 20 attack and 40 stats from? You're just spouting out nonsense.

Boy, you sure don't ever understand my posts do you son? I was obviously talking about a Chaos'd Chaos Horntail Pendant. lolol

[Devil]

Do I need to phrase it as "No, you are wrong you moron" to make you stop and think? You don't understand how up to possibly several hundred luck could be better than 10 attack?Sure, spend 1000 dollars on Miracle Cubes, and your HTP will gain you 200 more luk then a MoN... they only question is who's the moron that spends 1000 dollars on a free game for that... :')

But for Clean MoN / Egged HTP, the 10~12 watt is very important for the Katara attack range, also for the Mirror Image damage from the Katara, since that's only 60% of the already-low Katara Attack Range.

[IllegallySane]

Boy, you sure don't ever understand my posts do you son? I was obviously talking about a Chaos'd Chaos Horntail Pendant. lolol

Boy, you sure don't ever understand my logic do you son? Chaos-ing a Chaos HTP is only sane in Private Servers.

>Chaos Scroll giving perfect positive stats to 5 stats three times in a row.
>My face

That's not even remotely possible in this lifetime and a waste of time and resources.