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psyched
2010-07-27, 11:07 PM
Hi all,

Sorry to create a new thread on an old topic, but maplesea just got its 1st adventurers' rebalance patch (LOL, we're slow) i was wondering, for magicians, especially a bishop, which ring would be best to increase the dps output.

I was scouring through the old threads

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=27922
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=22682
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=27429

for more information, and i realized that they are abit outdated, since they dont take into account the changes for BigBang update.

One of the main things which is bugging me is comparing the critical ring vs the magical ring (For me, cruel ring is out of the question, because i'm a magician and the cruel ring and magical ring has the same effects, save the ma).
From what i understand from reading the posts here, 5ma after BB now works the same way as wa, so a 5ma increase will definitely increase my dmg somewhat. The thing is, will that damage from an additional 5ma be more than what an addtional 5% crit chance can give me?

Also, does anyone know what is the base crit rate for magician and their skills? Cos, with all the new skills which all the classes are getting, i understand that alot of the skills now have inheritant crit % in them. I dont really wanna be in a position where i'm getting a crit ring, which will then boost my total crit chance to over 100%, when the magical ring can boost it to 100%, and still provide me with additional add on stats, such as the ma boost.

Sorry, i realized i'm starting to ramble too much.

To sum it all up, taking all things into consideration, after the BB update, which ring will be the best for a magician who wants to boost his damage?
The critical ring? or the magical ring? or the cruel ring?

Thanks for your help guys.

Shidoshi
2010-07-28, 01:11 AM
I've just run some calculations, for AMs who have a base crit of 5%:

Critical Ring: Dmg = 1 + 0,15*1,35 = 1,2025
Magical Ring: Dmg = 1+ 0,1*1,35 = 1,135

CritRingDmg / MagRingDmg = 1,059471 (about 5,94% increase).

For the 4 matk difference to be worth more than that 5,94% increase you would need to have less than total 68 matk (which is pretty low) so for AMs the crit ring is better.

For bishops, which have that skill increase their critical change by 54%:


Critical Ring: Dmg = 1 + 0,69*1,35 = 1,9315
Magical Ring: Dmg = 1+ 0,64*1,35 = 1,864

CritRingDmg / MagRingDmg = 1,036212 (about 3,62% increase).

For the 4 matk difference to be worth more than that 3,62% increase you would need to have less than total 109 matk (which is pretty low) so for Bishops the crit ring is still better.

Note that I used the average critical damage multiplier for my calculations and have not included SE. I guess you can do the ones with SE for yourself and I doubt you'd see much difference, unless you somehow got to 100% crit chance with the magical ring.

psyched
2010-07-28, 11:20 PM
oh! i see. Was reading through your post and more or less got how you did your calculations.

Thank you very much for your help shidoshi.
really appreciate it.