The new C-2 / any level 50 ~ 80ish training spot?

[Link]

I have been playing around with the new spawns all throughout the Maple World. Most things are not where they used to be and most maps have been changed; mostly with the spawn.

I came across a map in Ludibrium on the far right side of the top floor of the clock tower. All the way on the right, there is a map full of Trojans. These things are fast as hell and they give 190 EXP each. They're pretty easy to kill and it seems to be pretty fast EXP.

The map is big and the spawn is pretty huge.


http://i50.tinypic.com/333xwd5.jpg

Thoughts?

Also, if you know of any other places that might be good, post 'em!

[cleric1213]

Mind telling us how final attack works now?

[Link]

Mind telling us how final attack works now?

Dunno yet. We haven't put points in Final Attack, nor do we know even if we're going to. lol Ground Smash seemed more important than FA, so we maxed that first.

[cleric1213]

Anyway, u could try drakes, i saw screenshots of them overrunning sleepywood now

[Pride]

Fiel's extractions say that Toy Trojans are level 57 with 4600 HP

Try the Lego Golems. They're level 6x now.
The yellow one is 63 with 6700 HP, and the navy one is 65 with 7500 HP.

Just BPQ... I heard that the rate is the same as KMS. BPQing is the fastest way to level. Koreans have very organized BPQ's so it shouldn't be hard.

[cleric1213]

Fiel's extractions say that Toy Trojans are level 57 with 4600 HP

Try the Lego Golems. They're level 6x now.
The yellow one is 63 with 6700 HP, and the navy one is 65 with 7500 HP.

Just BPQ... I heard that the rate is the same as KMS. BPQing is the fastest way to level. Koreans have very organized BPQ's so it shouldn't be hard.

Oh god..... the koreans kids at BPQ made me quit the last time

[JoeTang]

Dunno yet. We haven't put points in Final Attack, nor do we know even if we're going to. lol Ground Smash seemed more important than FA, so we maxed that first.

DO IT FOR THE SAKE OF OUR ENTERTAINMENT SCIENCE

c

[Pride]

Oh god..... the koreans kids at BPQ made me quit the last time

Why so :(
I level like 3 times a day with BPQ with a 5x char.

[Link]

DO IT FOR THE SAKE OF OUR ENTERTAINMENT SCIENCE

c

Well, since SP resets are 100% free, I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing. I'll talk to Steve about it. :P

Also, noob question : What's BPQ? O_o

[cleric1213]

If u do it and it works the way i think it does, i'm gonna make a fighter when this reaches kms

[JoeTang]

Well, since SP resets are 100% free, I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing. I'll talk to Steve about it. :P

Also, noob question : What's BPQ? O_o

Shot in the dark: Balrog PQ?

[Pride]

Shot in the dark: Balrog PQ?

Bingo.
Forgot the exact EXP reward, but I got like 40%+ per round.

[cleric1213]

Well, since SP resets are 100% free, I guess it wouldn't be a bad thing. I'll talk to Steve about it. :P

Also, noob question : What's BPQ? O_o

Why dont u

Reset 30sp from somewhere -> max FA -> Test -> report results -> reset it back > pretend nothing happened

[Pride]

Why dont u

Reset 30sp from somewhere -> max FA -> Test -> report results -> reset it back > pretend nothing happened

Actually, it's max all the important things first, level to 70 faster, test everything at 70 with SP resets.

[Link]

Why dont u

Reset 30sp from somewhere -> max FA -> Test -> report results -> reset it back > pretend nothing happened

Final Attack is actually level 20 at max now. I'll do the testing after my video finishes rendering.

Balrog PQ is defeating the Balrog, right?

Well, I'm kind of screwed since I don't know any Korean. lol I've also never been on a successful Balrog run in JapanMS (though, we came EXTREMELY close, but ran out of time), so I'm highly inexperienced at it.

[cleric1213]

Bingo.
Forgot the exact EXP reward, but I got like 40%+ per round.

260k exp


Why so :(
I level like 3 times a day with BPQ with a 5x char.

Kid comes in and loots everything and leaves
OR
Leader kicks everyone out at reward map

[Pride]

260k exp



Kid comes in and loots everything and leaves
OR
Leader kicks everyone out at reward map

I only experienced that one time. It's not even that big of a deal with the items, but you lose the EXP too if you're kicked.

On another note : HURRAY FOR ALL THE KS GUILDS THAT WILL GO DOWN TO HELL WITH C2'S CHANGE.

[cleric1213]

I only experienced that one time. It's not even that big of a deal with the items, but you lose the EXP too if you're kicked.

On another note : HURRAY FOR ALL THE KS GUILDS THAT WILL GO DOWN TO HELL WITH C2'S CHANGE.

I remember this guy talking on the guild chat about this FW who's ksing him at c-1 during 2x and the FW is asking for mesos

[Pride]

I remember this guy talking on the guild chat about this FW who's ksing him at c-1 during 2x and the FW is asking for mesos

GMS has nothing on KMS when it comes to KS'ing. All the KSing guilds are friendly to each other, but they're public menaces at popular training grounds.

[cleric1213]

GMS has nothing on KMS when it comes to KS'ing. All the KSing guilds are friendly to each other, but they're public menaces at popular training grounds.

That happened on KMS

btw, i wonder if the nostalgic time we had training on jr. cats in orbis years ago would come back with mob changes


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주니어 샐리온
Level: 36
HP: 1500
EXP: 90
Elements: Fire resist, Ice weak


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주니어 라이오너
Level: 36
HP: 1500
EXP: 90
Elements: Lightning resist, Ice weak


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주니어 그류핀
Level: 36
HP: 1500
EXP: 90
Elements: Ice resist, Fire weak



I've been wanting to know for awhile now, is ludi tower still 100 floors?

[Pride]

Is there an EXP chart somewhere ?

[Link]

Is there an EXP chart somewhere ?

Nope, but levels 30 ~ 33 (maybe even before 30) have the same exact EXP value (19,136).

[cleric1213]

Nope, but levels 30 ~ 33 (maybe even before 30) have the same exact EXP value (19,136).

thats like 5x faster at lvl30-33

[Link]

thats like 5x faster at lvl30-33

Yeah. With that EXP, I hit level 39 before I could even finish the 200 Armor Pepe item collection quest in Mushroom Kingdom. It's fast as HELL now.

[Pride]

Yeah. With that EXP, I hit level 39 before I could even finish the 200 Armor Pepe item collection quest in Mushroom Kingdom. It's fast as HELL now.

I have this really strange feeling that they will increase the level cap.

[cleric1213]

Yeah. With that EXP, I hit level 39 before I could even finish the 200 Armor Pepe item collection quest in Mushroom Kingdom. It's fast as HELL now.

Nothing can describe how much i want this to come to KMS

[FlameChocobo]

Wait a minute! Is Ground Smash pure slash, or just a traditional Slash/Stab?

[Link]

Wait a minute! Is Ground Smash pure slash, or just a traditional Slash/Stab?

Traditional Slash and Stab, it seems. Hard to tell, really. I don't know how the coding works, but the character animation does all sword animations. I'm uploading a video right now with it, so give me a minute.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvt0KNNVCJc

There ya go! (still processing, so give it some time for better quality)

[cleric1213]

Traditional Slash and Stab, it seems. Hard to tell, really. I don't know how the coding works, but the character animation does all sword animations. I'm uploading a video right now with it, so give me a minute.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvt0KNNVCJc

There ya go! (still processing, so give it some time for better quality)

Clean equips?

[Link]

Clean equips?

Indeed. The only "eh" equips I have are +~4 STR/DEX from potential scrolls.

[DeanNim]

Indeed. The only "eh" equips I have are +~4 STR/DEX from potential scrolls.

Posted the vidya on my thread. btw is potential scrolls easy to get ?

[Link]

Posted the vidya on my thread. btw is potential scrolls easy to get ?

Um... They're not too common from monster drops. They're actually quite rare.

[cleric1213]

How fast are u leveling now?

[Link]

How fast are u leveling now?

Pretty freaking fast compared to how it used to be. lol Leveling is a breeze now. One thing I'm worried about, though, is getting enough Dark Crystal Ores before level 70 for the job advancement. Nexon Korea apparently didn't think about people making anything except Resistance classes now, so they didn't add everyone else to Goldstein's job advancement script, so everyone has to advance normally. We don't know what the hell drops Dark Crystal ores anymore, so everyone's kind of f'ucked for advancing. =/

[cleric1213]

Pretty freaking fast compared to how it used to be. lol Leveling is a breeze now. One thing I'm worried about, though, is getting enough Dark Crystal Ores before level 70 for the job advancement. Nexon Korea apparently didn't think about people making anything except Resistance classes now, so they didn't add everyone else to Goldstein's job advancement script, so everyone has to advance normally. We don't know what the hell drops Dark Crystal ores anymore, so everyone's kind of f'ucked for advancing. =/

They usually drop from big scary mobs (if that still applies)

[DeanNim]

They usually drop from big scary mobs (if that still applies)

i lold. on a serious note, .. ph wait, no zipangu in kms :/

[Pride]

What's your accuracy in the video ??
I thought Ground smash would be a Soul Blade type move but it's not LOL.

[Link]

What's your accuracy in the video ??
I thought Ground smash would be a Soul Blade type move but it's not LOL.

130ish

[DeanNim]

130ish

Well, thats kinda low.. I thought with the amount off ACC bless now gives, you would have more.

[Pride]

He doesn't have Bless....

[cleric1213]

U know.. Fighter doesnt seem that much appealing anymore after the new acc system.
I think i'll make a dit after this comes to KMS, buffed Steal FTW

[Duelman]

Try hunting at wraiths or drumming bunnies for dc ores.

[cleric1213]

Try hunting at wraiths or drumming bunnies for dc ores.

Ore drops might have changed with all that shuffling, but its worth a shot

[Rayquaza2233]

Where're the crits coming from?

[cleric1213]

Where're the crits coming from?

If u have been reading the extraction threads, everyone gets 5% chance of doing critical, base damage of critical is currently unknown

[DeanNim]

He doesn't have Bless....

i mean... you see bless now gives alot more accuracy. Since bless that 1337 buff, this must mean that normal character will get alot of acc just like that

[cleric1213]

i mean... you see bless now gives alot more accuracy. Since bless that 1337 buff, this must mean that normal character will get alot of acc just like that

So cleric's will be wanted by warriors?

[DeanNim]

So cleric's will be wanted by warriors?

holy shit at my english. sigh nevermind :(

[Manu]

What did you mean with that "an archer with max accuracy will see a miss at a snail eventually"? o.o what did they do to accuracy formula :S

[Takebacker]

100% hit rate probably just isn't ever reachable anymore.

[byakugan]

100% hit rate probably just isn't ever reachable anymore.

Not even with a ton of dex a lot of potential items? :f7:

I don't see the point of slash blast now that warriors get ground smash. That unless ground smash gets a delay.

[Chuey]

Not even with a ton of dex a lot of potential items? :f7:

I don't see a point of slash blast now that warriors get ground smash. That unless ground smash gets a delay.

Well, most skills get replaced at some point. In 4th job, heroes replaced power strike, which was the main attack skill, with Brandish. Though they can do that in 3rd job in this patch, slash blast just gets replaced by ground smash now. Not too uncommon, no?

[byakugan]

Well, most skills get replaced at some point. In 4th job, heroes replaced power strike, which was the main attack skill, with Brandish. Though they can do that in 3rd job in this patch, slash blast just gets replaced by ground smash now. Not too uncommon, no?

But Improved fundamentals increases Slash blast's dmg.

[Phoenix]

I'd be very much interested in finding out how the new FA works, that and your range vs total weapon attack =P

Thank you very much in advance.

[Takebacker]

Slash blast is only good if you have a 4+ mob. PS is only good if you have just 1 mob. Ground smash is for everything inbetween.

[Link]

Remember this map?

http://i49.tinypic.com/6p19h3.png

Training here is amazing. The mobs are fast, they don't have magic attacks and they're mobby as hell. If that wasn't enough, there are teleports throughout the map, so you can go through the map pretty quickly.

[JoeTang]

So do you mind testing how much damage criticals add? I'm seeing only 20% but my sample set is so measly, I could count it on a single hand.

[Pride]

I think you should use a scrolled Lionheart if you're not planning to change your weapon anytime soon. I just hate Zards >.>

[Link]

I think you should use a scrolled Lionheart if you're not planning to change your weapon anytime soon. I just hate Zards >.>

I would, but I don't have much money. I only have 15m and I have to worry about Dark Crystals at level 70. They go for ~5m each in the free market and if I fuck up on the 3rd job Advancement Test, that's all of my money gone. lol

[Pride]

I'm guessing we'll need a whole new drop list and training spots..

[Alilatias]

Quick question: Is grinding faster now? I mean, I know leveling in general is faster due to the reduced EXP curve and most quests being relatively unchanged in terms of EXP reward, but do you find yourself gaining more EXP per... Let's say, half hour on pure grinding than before? Or less?

[Link]

Quick question: Is grinding faster now? I mean, I know leveling in general is faster due to the reduced EXP curve and most quests being relatively unchanged in terms of EXP reward, but do you find yourself gaining more EXP per... Let's say, half hour on pure grinding than before? Or less?

Level 58 ~ level 59 took approximately 30 minutes of pure grinding at Toy Trojans on 1x EXP, so... I would say training is a lot faster now.

[Solarboy]

Level 58 ~ level 59 took approximately 30 minutes of pure grinding at Toy Trojans on 1x EXP, so... I would say training is a lot faster now.

How much exp do the troyans give?

[MetaSeraphim]

190 exp according to Fiel's thread.

[Sn1perJohnE]

58 to 59 in 30 mins is hella fast. You probably couldnt even do that in GMS with our reduced EXP curve in the same amount of time. And we have mobs like MP3 to train at.

[Link]

Not 30 minutes of pure grinding later, I just hit 60. :P Yeah, it's fast now.

CPQ1 gives 300k EXP now per win, which is easily 2 levels per run. Considering I needed only 200k EXP to level from 58 ~ 59, 300k EXP at 30 ~ 50 is beyond insane.

[MetaSeraphim]

Holy hell, 300k exp?

[holyforest]

Not 30 minutes of pure grinding later, I just hit 60. :P Yeah, it's fast now.

CPQ1 gives 300k EXP now per win, which is easily 2 levels per run. Considering I needed only 200k EXP to level from 58 ~ 59, 300k EXP at 30 ~ 50 is beyond insane.

I think my jaw fell on the ground. That's insane! How much do other pqs give?

[Sn1perJohnE]

Not 30 minutes of pure grinding later, I just hit 60. :P Yeah, it's fast now.

CPQ1 gives 300k EXP now per win, which is easily 2 levels per run. Considering I needed only 200k EXP to level from 58 ~ 59, 300k EXP at 30 ~ 50 is beyond insane.

Imma love this in KMS if they keep it the same.

[Will]

Have you considered that one hidden factory map in one of the ludi factory maps? I'm not sure if its on the map right below the very first clocktower map (with teddies and like 3 or so pink ones) or the second map below it, there's a box along the right side that takes you to the map with a sh'it ton of boxes that spawn trojans.
I'm not sure if thats nerfed, removed, or what, though I don't know if it can rival the Krip. :p
I'll try to find it on hidden-street, gimme a sec.

[Solarboy]

Not 30 minutes of pure grinding later, I just hit 60. :P Yeah, it's fast now.

CPQ1 gives 300k EXP now per win

http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/omfg1.jpg

Thats beautyfull *v*

[Link]

Have you considered that one hidden factory map in one of the ludi factory maps? I'm not sure if its on the map right below the very first clocktower map (with teddies and like 3 or so pink ones) or the second map below it, there's a box along the right side that takes you to the map with a sh'it ton of boxes that spawn trojans.
I'm not sure if thats nerfed, removed, or what, though I don't know if it can rival the Krip. :p
I'll try to find it on hidden-street, gimme a sec.

Yeah, I tried it. Unfortunately, those are a "special" type of Toy Trojans that were completely uneffected by the update. They're what the original Toy Trojans were.

[Will]

Yeah, I tried it. Unfortunately, those are a "special" type of Toy Trojans that were completely uneffected by the update. They're what the original Toy Trojans were.

Dam, probably would've been nice if they were affected. :(

[JoeTang]

ShiKage, can we get some screen shots of your range using different attack weapons of the same type along with the total weapon attack of the character? (i.e. all one handed swords, or all two handed swords)

[Derosis]

http://www.anaitgames.com/wp-content/omfg1.jpg

Thats beautyfull *v*

Holy :pineapple:'s! I honestly can't believe its 300k :f5:

[Myles]

Can you post where you trained so far? I'm at level 19 and like all my old places are gone. Ie Caution: Falling Down and Sand Rats. I'm at Blue Ribbon Pigs for now but I'm gonna wanna change soon :/.

[OrangeGuy]

CPQ and CPQ2 no longer gives secksi exp guys, time to cry.

[Fiel]

190 exp according to Fiel's thread.

All exp was amped in this recent patch. Consider that thread outdated.