Post-Balance Patch Chief Bandit Build?

[Hanabira.Kage]

After reading through Mejust's (probably rather old) Chief Bandit Guide over at Basil, I wonder if it's now viable to max Assaulter right after BoT? Assaulter's damage has been boosted up beyond Savage Blow's, and its delay time has been reduced...so perhaps it will now be a better 1v1 skill than Savage Blow and thus worth adding points to a little earlier...

Secondly, now that Mesos Guard lasts 123 seconds and has a 80% mesos consumption at Lv1, is it advisable to leave Mesos Guard at Lv1 until right before Chakra and Pickpocket?

Although the Balance Patch has not come to MapleSEA yet, I'm currently training a Bandit to Lv70 in preparation for the patch. :p

[Kitteh]

Isn't Assaulter a 1v1 skill?

And isn't BoT your main mobbing move throughout all of 3rd job?

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[Link]

Isn't Assaulter a 1v1 skill?

And isn't BoT your main mobbing move throughout all of 3rd job?

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I don't get your point. This person is asking whether or not maxing Assaulter sooner, in order to kill out Savage Blow for the most part, is a good idea.

[Kitteh]

Oops, I completely misread that. I saw that as getting Assaulter over BoT.

Well, as far as it seems, is there much else worth maxing immediately at that point?

Oh, and I seem to remember a CB friend saying that it wasn't getting above lvl1 MG anyways, except for the timer.

[Hanabira.Kage]

Oops, I completely misread that. I saw that as getting Assaulter over BoT.

Well, as far as it seems, is there much else worth maxing immediately at that point?

Oh, and I seem to remember a CB friend saying that it wasn't getting above lvl1 MG anyways, except for the timer.


That's what I figured. 123 seconds is ridiculously long, and should be good enough for most of 3rd Job now...unless you want to save a little more money. x.x

Yeah I was asking whether maxing Assaulter or [insert skill name] right after maxing BoT is better. I've got a few builds in mind (I love constructing builds):

(in order)

Earlier Assaulter...
ME/Assaulter 1
Assaulter/ME 1
Chakra 3
MG 1
BoT 30
Assaulter 30
ME 3
Pickpocket 11
ME 30
Pickpocket 16
MG 20
Chakra 25

Reasons: Assaulter is now stronger than Savage Blow per use, and its delay time has been shortened. Getting Assaulter maxed ASAP to replace Savage Blow as a 1v1 damage dealer could prove beneficial. SP is added to ME to unlock Pickpocket, which is brought up to skill level 11 for 120 sec duration which is good enough to complement training with BoT coupled with ME. ME is then maxed to improve damage. Pickpocket is then brought to 16 for 180 sec duration, and MG is maxed to also give it a 180 sec duration (and 61% meso consumption). Remaining SP added to Chakra.

Maxed MG before Assaulter (I like to call this the Terrorist :p):
ME/Assaulter 1
Assaulter/ME 1
Chakra 3
MG 1
BoT 30
ME 3
Pickpocket 11
ME 30
MG 20
Assaulter 30
Pickpocket 16
Chakra 25

Reasons: ME and Pickpocket are obtained right after BoT to complement training. MG is then maxed to give it a 180 sec duration and lower meso consumption. Assaulter is then maxed for an improved 1v1 prowess, followed by 16 Pickpocket and 25 Chakra.

Note: I always start off with 1 Assaulter and 1 ME because I like playing around with them :p Assaulter for mobility, and ME just in case I'm needed to bomb...oh I don't know...Frankenroid?

[Rayquaza2233]

The only problem with getting assaulter second at this point is the fact you'll be training at Typhons for a fairly long time, and you may lose a monster in your mob to the stun. Not sure about MapleSEA since I have no clue what you guys train on over there from 83 onwards.

[Neothisis]

Technically, Assaulter was always stronger than SB since it does have the ignoring defense trick. Regardless, Assaulter can't replace SB because it isn't as spammable, and it does cause you to move. You'll still be using the SB+BStep combo in 4th job before you attain a decent level Assassinate.
As for your other question, yes, level 1 Meso Guard will be plenty for a long while now.

[Rayquaza2233]

What's wrong with the movement? A second assaulter brings you back to where you started, no?

[Fiel]

What's wrong with the movement? A second assaulter brings you back to where you started, no?

There's nothing wrong with the movement. Assaulter is used to move you from one area to another. This means you can platform jump with it, or use it as a finishing move to quickly begin attacking the next mob. Or, if you want, use Assaulter to stun the enemy, then quickly use BoT to hit the enemy in front and behind. So yeah, Assaulter is really not used for damage, but for positional advantage.

[Dusk]

My build was:

1 Assaulter
1 ME
3 Chakra
6 MG
Max BoT
Max Assaulter
1 PP
Max ME
Max MG
Max PP
21 Chakra

Dunno what you were doing before the patch, but Assaulter has always been a high priority skill for me. I maxed it first back in the day when the only place to train was Tauros, and I was in the process of maxing it right after BoT on my second CB when I quit.

Edit: Assaulter doesn't replace SB, but Assaulter doesn't even serve the same function as SB. CBs need to make use of more than one skill at a time. You're going to be jumping around and spamming BoT to train throughout 3rd job, not SB. Assaulter really helps you position yourself to mob better, so you're going to be using it a lot more than SB. Might as well max its damage out to make good use of the time you're spending moving around.

[Hanabira.Kage]

My build was:

1 Assaulter
1 ME
3 Chakra
6 MG
Max BoT
Max Assaulter
1 PP
Max ME
Max MG
Max PP
21 Chakra

Dunno what you were doing before the patch, but Assaulter has always been a high priority skill for me. I maxed it first back in the day when the only place to train was Tauros, and I was in the process of maxing it right after BoT on my second CB when I quit.

Edit: Assaulter doesn't replace SB, but Assaulter doesn't even serve the same function as SB. CBs need to make use of more than one skill at a time. You're going to be jumping around and spamming BoT to train throughout 3rd job, not SB. Assaulter really helps you position yourself to mob better, so you're going to be using it a lot more than SB. Might as well max its damage out to make good use of the time you're spending moving around.


Doesn't Pickpocket require 3 ME?

[Dusk]

Doesn't Pickpocket require 3 ME?

I was just going with what I could remember off the top of my head. Yeah, 3 ME right before that 1 PP then.