"What to buy" for archers~Guide + Questions

[Retalion]

Idea taken off Sleepywood. Many people dont know what to upgrade so this will the place to ask.

To make things easier, it'd be best to post in a format similar to this(using myself as an example):


Class: Bow Master
Level: 125
Helm: 14/15/14/15 Zakum Helm
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 Spiegalman
Earrings: 8 dex 1 slot Metal Silvers
Glove: 12 attack Green Mittens
Bow: 107/2 Fire Arund
Cape: 3 atk 8 dex PAC
Overall: 33 dex 2 str Green Pris
Shoes: 4 str/10 dex Red Gores
Skills Im considering buying: None (Im going to hunt for my SE 20, lols)
Mesos to spend: 90 mill

A few equip related things:

End Game Equipemnt-This means that this would be your final upgrade, meaning that once you achieve it, you'll never upgrade again. I would consider this list "semi-godly", meaning these items arent too hard to obtain but they're close to the best you can find out there to buy (most people who scroll better just keep it).

Hat: Zakum Helmet (this piece of equip is your endgame equip as it is. The question is just whether or not you'll scroll it)
Pendant: Horntail Pendant
Earrings: 13+ dex earrings
Bow: 115+ bow
Gloves: 15+ Atack SCG/BWG
Cape: 4/10 PAC/Pink Gaia
Overall: 30+ dex overall
Shoes: 2/4+ facestompers

Best Financial Equips-if you havent noticed, equip prices rise expontentially (in some manner) per stat increase. The difference of price for the 1 attack between 6 and 7 atk wgs is a few mill but its 300-400 mill between 15 and 16 attack. If you're on a budget this would be where to look.

Note: All prices are rough Scanian estimates. If other people from other servers want to throw their prices at me for the listed equips, that'd be welcome.


Helm: Zakukm Helmet (approx 50 mill). If that's too much, then 4 dex maros for 250-300k or 5 dex dark patriots for 1 mill.

Pendant: 2/2 or 1/2 pendant. Having extra hp/mp on it will cost more but not worth it if you're on a budget (90/90 range in the 25-40mill for average ones).

Gloves: 7 attack wgs (probably under 10 mill). 6 attacks are 5-6 mill and 8 attacks are close to 20 (double of 7 for 1 extra attack).

Earrings: 7-8 dex (20ish for 7, 35ish for 8. Its hard to find any lower because what are the odds of you failing 2-3 scrolls and not have the item break? 9 dex are somewhat affordable at 40-50 and then the big jump comes at 10 dex, being at 7x mill).

Bow: Kandivas-90+?, Hinkels-95+ (95 are a few mill, 99s are close to 50), Arunds-104 (4xish mill, 102s are 25ish, prices for bows are hard to gauge at times), metus-104, etc.

Cape: 2 attack black raggedy cape (2x mill) or if you're looking for a PAC, then a 3/6 (5x mill, compared to 100+ for 3/8). Alternatively, at lower levels, a simple dex cape would be fine as well (8-10 dex are around 15-20ish mill?)

Overall: 14 dex kismet, 15 dex tai/linnex, 16 dex pris/ades/arzuna (under 1 mill for the overall, 350k for scrolls. That's around 1 mill for
14-16 dex. You cant get cheaper than that. Note that tais, linnexes, and prises are hard to find so most people stick with kismets, adeses or arzunas). Alternatively, you can get a 20ish dex overall by hitting a 10/30% overall dex scroll and then 100% the last 9 slots. That's a "somewhat" cheap way and you get an extra 4 dex from it (though if you're REALLY broke, then 100% would be better). Though statistically, it should take 3-4 tries, you could be unlucky and take a lot more or get lucky and take a lot less.

Shoes: Clean shoes can be used up till 70-80 where dark wing boots are mass scrolled. 8-9 dex dark wings should cost under 10 mill.

Hope this covers most of the generic questions about equip purchasing. If there's something that I've gotten inaccurate/some suggestions on formating, please post and I'll look into it.

[Kevin]

Let's see,

Class: Ranger
Level: 75
Helm: 4 dex/1 str White Polyfeather Hat
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 Spiegelman
Earrings: 9 Dex Crystal Flowers
Glove: 12 attack BWG
Bow: 96/2 Kandiva
Cape: 3 atk 8 str PAC
Overall: 20 dex 4 str Red Kismet
Shoes: 4 dex/ 1 str Green Gores
Skills Im considering buying: None
Mesos to spend: ~100 mill

I'm thinking maybe a Zhelm upgrade then shoes? Since those are the only items I have that aren't scrolled. But after those, what is the most logical upgrade? Everything is so expensive now >.>

[Retalion]

Let's see,


I'm thinking maybe a Zhelm upgrade then shoes? Since those are the only items I have that aren't scrolled. But after those, what is the most logical upgrade? Everything is so expensive now >.>

A z-helm would be good as it will allow you not to have to put more points into Strength to use an arund/metus (what base strength do you have? All those nice strength gears are going to waste with the kandiva, lol).

That brings up another point: Bow. That can use a major upgrade at 80. Assuming you spend 50 mill on a z-helm, you have 50 mill to get a bow, which would probably be a 104-105 arund. That's a 8-9 atk upgrade, which is more than any shoe can add (even at 3 dex/atk, you're gaining 24-25 dex equivalent in attack and its closer to 4-5 dex/atk at your level, meaning even more. You're not going to find 45 dex shoes anywhere xD).

In summary:

1. Z-helm (then you wont have to pump strength to use higher bows)
2. Bow (make use of the strength equips you have + major attack/dmg upgrade)
3. Shoes (cause they're clean and your dex can come from there. If you spend it all on your bow, then you can get 8-9 dex dark wings for now though I would say ultimately, you'd aim at 12+ dex dark wings, which are 25-30 millish I think).

[Kevin]

A z-helm would be good as it will allow you not to have to put more points into Strength to use an arund/metus (what base strength do you have? All those nice strength gears are going to waste with the kandiva, lol).

That brings up another point: Bow. That can use a major upgrade at 80. Assuming you spend 50 mill on a z-helm, you have 50 mill to get a bow, which would probably be a 104-105 arund. That's a 8-9 atk upgrade, which is more than any shoe can add (even at 3 dex/atk, you're gaining 24-25 dex equivalent in attack and its closer to 4-5 dex/atk at your level, meaning even more. You're not going to find 45 dex shoes anywhere xD).

In summary:

1. Z-helm (then you wont have to pump strength to use higher bows)
2. Bow (make use of the strength equips you have + major attack/dmg upgrade)
3. Shoes (cause they're clean and your dex can come from there. If you spend it all on your bow, then you can get 8-9 dex dark wings for now though I would say ultimately, you'd aim at 12+ dex dark wings, which are 25-30 millish I think).
Oops, forgot to mention, my base str is 42. Also, I managed to get a 107/2 Fire Arund and moved it over to Bello, so that's set. The cape and earrings were hand downs from my Paladin.

At 50 I was wearing the Olympus and decided rather than getting an Asianic then a Hinkel I'd just get a Hinkel and go pseudo-strless until 80 and pump str for the Arund. I also thought of earning a Zhelm myself but the diminishing prices of Zhelms and the fact that I would have to switch my str cape out for a dex one and still have too much str made me scrap that idea. I'll use the cape to cap my str instead.

I will perhaps be able to get a helm for cheaper, so... lets say I have 70m to spend excluding the helm. Should I blow it all on shoes or is there a better way to spend that money?

Thanks for the helpful post btw. =)

[Retalion]

Oops, forgot to mention, my base str is 42. Also, I managed to get a 107/2 Fire Arund and moved it over to Bello, so that's set. The cape and earrings were hand downs from my Paladin.

At 50 I was wearing the Olympus and decided rather than getting an Asianic then a Hinkel I'd just get a Hinkel and go pseudo-strless until 80 and pump str for the Arund. I also thought of earning a Zhelm myself but the diminishing prices of Zhelms and the fact that I would have to switch my str cape out for a dex one and still have too much str made me scrap that idea. I'll use the cape to cap my str instead.

I will perhaps be able to get a helm for cheaper, so... lets say I have 70m to spend excluding the helm. Should I blow it all on shoes or is there a better way to spend that money?

Thanks for the helpful post btw. =)

Its late night, my math might be faulty. 42 + 8 (cape) + 4 (overall) + 15 (helm) = 69, meaning 16 more points into STR for the arund?

With 70 mill for shoes, you can get quite a bit, actually. You can get 14-15 stat shoes (granted they'd be blue arnahs. We have a lot of those for sale in Scania and they're for level 100 so you wont be able to use them for a looong time). Then again, if you dont want to wait, there's always the facestomper option (though Im not sure what stat facestompers you'd get with 70 mill).

[Anyoneisgod]

dont forget Face Stompers if you can afford a pair easy 2 attack and up to 5 dex.

[B0WJOB]

I gave away my valuable scrolled items and what not before I left the States.
and im out of date with GMS prices =x

NIce thread tho Jack, but I don't think i can contribute much on this thread. let's go back to MSN. :o

[Sn1perJohnE]

hehe i wanna show off my ok item :O but i needa upgrade stuff also >_>


Class: Ranger
Level: 96 (hopefully 100 soon XD)
Helm: 7 dex 70 hp Dark Arlic
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 60/60 Spiegelman
Earrings: 11 Dex Fallen Leaf
Glove: 2 Str/ 4 Dex 8 Att Dark Cordon
Bow: 106/2 Fire Arund
Cape: 3 atk 8 str PAC
Overall: 22 dex 3 str Green Ades
Shoes: 14 Dex 15 Jump Dark Wings
Skills Im considering buying: None ATM
Mesos to spend: ~Fluctuating around 100+ mil

I plan to buy a Zhelm when i get a casa crow sold, i might try to scroll a better lvl 100 Overall, and the only better glove I would get would have to be 11+ att, because the glove I have is still equal to an 9 att glove for me.

[Retalion]

hehe i wanna show off my ok item :O but i needa upgrade stuff also >_>



I plan to buy a Zhelm when i get a casa crow sold, i might try to scroll a better lvl 100 Overall, and the only better glove I would get would have to be 11+ att, because the glove I have is still equal to an 9 att glove for me.


yeah, I'd definitely say z-helm first. With a z-helm, you can then sell the 3/8 str cape for a 3/8 dex one (should be around the same price). Even with that tradeoff, you'd be 3 str short of a metus so I'd say go for a 2 str spiegalman and 4 str arzuna (scrolled of course) and pump an extra point. Then sell the Arund and buy a 108ish metus or something.

I dont really like that glove as it limits your options by a lot. If you want to use your bow and upgrade your glove, you'd have to find 2 strength points elsewhere and... yeah, that might cause problems.

Other than that, it looks pretty solid.

[Sn1perJohnE]

good to hear, but once i was able to get a Zhelm, i was planning to shoot for a 11x Nisrock. My base Str atm is 77, with my equips it is 91, so a zhelm would be just over 105, allowing me to use a nisrock. If i were able to find a good deal on a 11+ att glove i would probably buy it, wait til i LVL and add a point or 2 to get my Str to 105 even. Though, I might try and scroll a 11+ att 2 str red wg or a lvl 90 glove with 2 str as well. The main reason i have kept this glove is because it is equal to a 9 att with the 4 dex, but i feel as time goes on, it will be less than a 9 att. Thanks for the advice XD

[Impassive]

don't know if this is the right place to ask but how much is 100atk golden hinkel?
and
B.100atk golden hinkel.

[Sn1perJohnE]

don't know if this is the right place to ask but how much is 100atk golden hinkel?
and
B.100atk golden hinkel.

no, i dont think this is the right place, possibly in the world forum for your world.

[Valarius]

Level 95 Sniper

Helm: Zakum Helmet [15/15/16/13]
Pendant: Spiegelman's Necklace [1/1/2/1, Clean]
Overall: Red Ades [6 STR, 15 DEX, 3 ACC, 2 AVOID]
Cape: Pink Adventurers Cape [1 ATT]
Gloves: Work Gloves [10 ATT]
Shoes: Blue Elf Shoes [3 STR, 7 DEX, 1 AVOID, 1 SPEED, 11 JUMP]
Earrings: Cecilia's Earrings [Clean]
Weapon: Dark Raven [2 DEX, 108 ATT, 9 ACC, 10 SPEED]

Not sure what to better next. I'm thinking either I should start working on a set of earrings, or my cape.

[Retalion]

Level 95 Sniper

Helm: Zakum Helmet [15/15/16/13]
Pendant: Spiegelman's Necklace [1/1/2/1, Clean]
Overall: Red Ades [6 STR, 15 DEX, 3 ACC, 2 AVOID]
Cape: Pink Adventurers Cape [1 ATT]
Gloves: Work Gloves [10 ATT]
Shoes: Blue Elf Shoes [3 STR, 7 DEX, 1 AVOID, 1 SPEED, 11 JUMP]
Earrings: Cecilia's Earrings [Clean]
Weapon: Dark Raven [2 DEX, 108 ATT, 9 ACC, 10 SPEED]

Not sure what to better next. I'm thinking either I should start working on a set of earrings, or my cape.

I'd go for a 3/6-8 dex/str cape and perhaps 8-9 dex earrings. After that, I'd probably say getting a better raven/casa (112 are pretty common in Scania but Im not sure what server you're from)

Someone has pm'd me (Quactarct or something) about another cheap alternative for overalls and that's hitting a 30% on an overall and then 100% the rest, giving you 22-23 dex. I'll add that in and thanks for the comment. I forgot about that xP

[Valarius]

Unfortunately, anything in Khaini above 104 in regards to Ravens is considered great. 112's are few and far between.

I'll take the cape route then. Thanks.

[Derimed]

Someone has pm'd me (Quactarct or something) about another cheap alternative for overalls and that's hitting a 30% on an overall and then 100% the rest, giving you 22-23 dex. I'll add that in and thanks for the comment. I forgot about that xP

Actually, the method I cited is the poor man's way of achieving 20 Dex, (6 base + 5 from one 30, + 9 from 100% the other 9 slots.) I was just trying to say that no Bowman ever needs to have an overall of below 20 Dex. This would not work for Warriors becuase they need the Accuracy from 60s, but for us Bowmen acc is worthless. Thanks for including it.

22-23 dex would probably result from hitting one 30 and then 60ing the rest of the overall. My own overall is 23 Dex, and that's how I got it.

[Valarius]

Actually, the method I cited is the poor man's way of achieving 20 Dex, (6 base + 5 from one 30, + 9 from 100% the other 9 slots.) I was just trying to say that no Bowman ever needs to have an overall of below 20 Dex. This would not work for Warriors becuase they need the Accuracy from 60s, but for us Bowmen acc is worthless. Thanks for including it.

22-23 dex would probably result from hitting one 30 and then 60ing the rest of the overall. My own overall is 23 Dex, and that's how I got it.

I will definately consider upgrading to 20+ dex before 120, once funds prove to be sufficient after current needs.

Thanks for the great tip. :]

[BurnTheCow]

Class: Bowmaster
Level: 120
Helm: 5DEX Arlic helm >_>
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 Spiegelman's necklace
Earrings: Clean Brown Leaf Earings
Glove: 10 Attack wg
Bow: 107/1 Dark Metus
Cape: 13DEX 2 STR Sirius Cape
Overall: 17DEX 3 STR Dark Ades
Shoes: 9 DEX Green SS
Skills: I donno whether I should buy my SE or hunt for it.
Mesos to spend: 60-100mil

I'm planning for a Zhelm asap, then maybe aim for a better bow or overall. PAC's are just to expensive right now.
Oh and Off Topic: Hey Jackk ;D

[CronoRegen]

We have one of these items at least Jackk >.>

115+ bow here we come!

[arrowhead]

lv 107
helm: 5 dex dark arlic
pendant: 1/1/1 (no int) clean spiegelmann
overall: 4/16 green ades
earrings: clean 11/58 cecelia's
bow: 98 arund
glove: 2/4 red arcina
cape: clean icarus 3
shoes: 8/6 dark ades

i have a budget of... 5m ><
my pot funds come out of apq, so i dont have that much extra mesos.
im thinking about saving up for a 7 atk wg -> 102 arund -> 2 atk black cape -> 30%+100%x9'd ades, but im not sure if that is a good idea or not.

also, are my 11 wdef 58 mdef earrings better than rose earrings?
rose earrings are 70 mdef on avg, 1 more than what my cecelia totals, but is mdef needed more than wdef?

[Worthyness]

Hat: zhelm 14str/15dex -->> not sure about this, but i think this is right
Pendant: 2/1/1/1/30hp/30mp/0slots <<< suck at scrolling =P
Overall: 7 str, 18dex red ades << i'm content with this
Bow: 102/2dex fire arund >> have a 108 nisrock at 100
glove: 10 attack BWG
cape: 2 attack 6 or 7 strength PAC
shoes: 2str, 7 dex green lvl 70 shoes
Earrings: clean avg rose earrings

I'm just wondering what would be good to improve at this level (97). around 10 mil in budget. I am a bad scroller, so no scrolling for me. I plan on saving money for SE 20, unless i find it (highly unlikely). Thanks to those who can help me! =)

[Retalion]

Class: Bowmaster
Level: 120
Helm: 5DEX Arlic helm >_>
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 Spiegelman's necklace
Earrings: Clean Brown Leaf Earings
Glove: 10 Attack wg
Bow: 107/1 Dark Metus
Cape: 13DEX 2 STR Sirius Cape
Overall: 17DEX 3 STR Dark Ades
Shoes: 9 DEX Green SS
Skills: I donno whether I should buy my SE or hunt for it.
Mesos to spend: 60-100mil

I'm planning for a Zhelm asap, then maybe aim for a better bow or overall. PAC's are just to expensive right now.
Oh and Off Topic: Hey Jackk ;D

Hello Anto

I'd say the Green SS can sell for a bit and with that money, you can probably get 11-12 dex dark wings.

And yeah, get a z-helm, then save for a PAC

@arrowhead: i dont really think the wep/mag def makes much difference so either would work. The path you suggested for yourself is pretty good already and I wouldnt change any of it.

@Worthy: I'd say sell the shoes and get 10-11 dex dark wings and get perhaps 6-8 dex earrings. How fast do you level? if 120 is a LONG way away, dont bother getting SE yet. Im 125 atm and I still dont have SE20, lols.

[Luscent]

Class: Sniper
Level: 84
Helm: 15/14/15/15 Zhelm o_o
Pendant: 2/2/1/1 30/30 Spiegelman's necklace
Earrings: 8 Dex Single Earring
Glove: 10 Attack wg
Bow: 104/2 Dark Raven
Cape: 3ATT 6DEX PAC
Overall: 15DEX 2 STR Green Linnex
Shoes: 11DEX 3 Slot Dark Wing Boots (Afraid to finish scrolling)
Skills: N/A
Mesos to spend: ~220 Mil

I'm not really sure what to upgrade at this point. I don't want to touch my overall right now because I want to scroll an Ades, and I can't find any better Ravens, or even clean Ravens to scroll myself.

Any ideas?

[Beaner]

Class: Sniper
Level: 84
Helm: 15/14/15/15 Zhelm o_o
Pendant: 2/2/1/1 30/30 Spiegelman's necklace
Earrings: 8 Dex Single Earring
Glove: 10 Attack wg
Bow: 104/2 Dark Raven
Cape: 3ATT 6DEX PAC
Overall: 15DEX 2 STR Green Linnex
Shoes: 11DEX 3 Slot Dark Wing Boots (Afraid to finish scrolling)
Skills: N/A
Mesos to spend: ~220 Mil

I'm not really sure what to upgrade at this point. I don't want to touch my overall right now because I want to scroll an Ades, and I can't find any better Ravens, or even clean Ravens to scroll myself.

Any ideas?

60% the shoes?

i would invest on a 110+ casa with that money and get to 90 asap. in windia with 200mill you can get something around 115 with that. which would be over 10 attack for you. also 20ish dex overalls are like 20mill go grab one.

[Luscent]

60% the shoes?

i would invest on a 110+ casa with that money and get to 90 asap. in windia with 200mill you can get something around 115 with that. which would be over 10 attack for you. also 20ish dex overalls are like 20mill go grab one.

I should be 90 in 2-3 days, so I guess I could keep the 104 attack for now, but I haven't seen anything near a 115 attack Casa in Khaini. We just have awful Crossbows, so I pretty much depend on scrolling everything for myself. Thanks for the advice.

[Retalion]

I should be 90 in 2-3 days, so I guess I could keep the 104 attack for now, but I haven't seen anything near a 115 attack Casa in Khaini. We just have awful Crossbows, so I pretty much depend on scrolling everything for myself. Thanks for the advice.

If you're going to hit 90 in a few days, then get ready by buying adeses and 30% overall dex for scrolling. That and I agree with Carlos: 60% the shoes. You dont have much to lose (especially if you'll probably be upgrading to Facestompers in 20-30 levels)

[Luscent]

If you're going to hit 90 in a few days, then get ready by buying adeses and 30% overall dex for scrolling. That and I agree with Carlos: 60% the shoes. You dont have much to lose (especially if you'll probably be upgrading to Facestompers in 20-30 levels)

Should I go with the method posted above? Hit a single 30% then 100% the rest? Or should I try my luck and try to hit 2-3 30%'s?

[Retalion]

Should I go with the method posted above? Hit a single 30% then 100% the rest? Or should I try my luck and try to hit 2-3 30%'s?

If you had 22 mill, then I'd probably say so but you have 220 and that's enough to buy a high 2x dex overall which would be my suggestion (but if you really must scroll, I'd say go for 2 30's to hit, then 60% the rest).

[Beaner]

i would try to get a good casa and depending on money left worry about the overalls. remember each attack is the equivalent of 4 dex or so at your level.

always upgrade weapon>glove>overall>cape>shoes
when you are happy with one move to the next. thats how i do it anyways.


Should I go with the method posted above? Hit a single 30% then 100% the rest? Or should I try my luck and try to hit 2-3 30%'s?

[Luscent]

Thanks for the advice guys. The reason I'm so bent on scrolling is that well scrolled Archer equipment is a very rare find in Khaini; to the point that it's nearly impossible some times.

[Beaner]

Thanks for the advice guys. The reason I'm so bent on scrolling is that well scrolled Archer equipment is a very rare find in Khaini; to the point that it's nearly impossible some times.

i know how it is, good xbows are rare in windia, and most belong to me and my friends ;D suck for the other archers though

[blackerlp]

10dex 10 hp dark falcon
10dex cecilia earrings
20 dex dark pris
2str 4dex 6 att dark cordon (i will not buy wgs, i prefer to wear archer gloves)
9 str 2 dex sirius cape
7dex 6 jump dark wing boots( idont like ss either lol im picky)
100 att gold arund
1/1/1/1 30/30 necklace
70 str lvl 81
scrolled it all myself, except for sirius and necklace
is it zhelm time? (i really dont like the look)
or should i just add a little str go to str equips at 90 and scroll them for dex

[Retalion]

10dex 10 hp dark falcon
10dex cecilia earrings
20 dex dark pris
2str 4dex 6 att dark cordon (i will not buy wgs, i prefer to wear archer gloves)
9 str 2 dex sirius cape
7dex 6 jump dark wing boots( idont like ss either lol im picky)
100 att gold arund
1/1/1/1 30/30 necklace
70 str lvl 81
scrolled it all myself, except for sirius and necklace
is it zhelm time? (i really dont like the look)
or should i just add a little str go to str equips at 90 and scroll them for dex


Look at it this way. Your falcon adds 10 dex, a z-helm would add 15 dex AND 15 strength... that's an extra 20 stats. Z-helms look ugly but the extra 20 stats makes up for it (not to mention extra wep def and mag def... extremely useful at HT pirates).

If you dont want to buy a z-helm, you can go get a better dark cordon (or scroll your own?) There are a few 8 atks out there and maybe even a 10 atk. I suppose what you have now is fine (as you have enough strength equips that you can just replace them when you do get a z-helm) but they could be a lot better if you dont mind the looks of certain items xD (Hey, you can always market in MTS and buy an nx set xD)

[blackerlp]

awwwwww demit retalion stop making me buy a zhelm.
yeah im gonna get one, that way i wont have to raise my str anymore. i just like the sexy archer equips so much.

[Retalion]

awwwwww demit retalion stop making me buy a zhelm.
yeah im gonna get one, that way i wont have to raise my str anymore. i just like the sexy archer equips so much.

but z-helms are sexy xP (In stats) xD

[Trinity]

I am lvl 52.

i have a 6 att wg, 100%'d kismet, 5 dex maro, Green shoes, and a 72 att Olympus, with 14m.

what should i be looking to upgrade/save up for?

[Retalion]

I am lvl 52.

i have a 6 att wg, 100%'d kismet, 5 dex maro, Green shoes, and a 72 att Olympus, with 14m.

what should i be looking to upgrade/save up for?

Dont know about your server but in Scania, z-helms have deflated from 60 mill to 35 mill. You're a little under half way there for a z-helm so you could save up for that. Not only will that give you an extra 10 dex (over your 5 dex maro), but it'll give you 15 strength (allowing you to use the asianic and maybe hinkel without adding more strength in) as well as a lot of wep and mag def, which will save you pot money in training.

That aside, I'd say you could save for a Pink Adventurer's cape (perhaps 2/6 or 2/8?). The bow is fine for now, but when you get to 6x, perhaps you can buy a kandiva and 100% it (or even get a mediocrely scrolled one? You're normal dex so you wont get as much advantage out of it, but the attack is still higher than most 6x and even some 7x bows). I'd say the glove can wait till some other upgrades are done first.

That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps.

[Sn1perJohnE]

Dont know about your server but in Scania, z-helms have deflated from 60 mill to 35 mill. You're a little under half way there for a z-helm so you could save up for that. Not only will that give you an extra 10 dex (over your 5 dex maro), but it'll give you 15 strength (allowing you to use the asianic and maybe hinkel without adding more strength in) as well as a lot of wep and mag def, which will save you pot money in training.

That aside, I'd say you could save for a Pink Adventurer's cape (perhaps 2/6 or 2/8?). The bow is fine for now, but when you get to 6x, perhaps you can buy a kandiva and 100% it (or even get a mediocrely scrolled one? You're normal dex so you wont get as much advantage out of it, but the attack is still higher than most 6x and even some 7x bows). I'd say the glove can wait till some other upgrades are done first.

That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps.

zhelm prices in Bello are hovering around 40 mil on average. I suggest from Forsaken if you plan to, prices for them are 40 reg / 66 vip with quests.

[Retalion]

zhelm prices in Bello are hovering around 40 mil on average. I suggest from Forsaken if you plan to, prices for them are 40 reg / 66 vip with quests.

Okay, thanks for the clarifcation. Just that with the extra zak channels, groups of friends are undercutting guild prices and selling at 35 mill now here in Scania and I just assumed other servers did that too.

That being said, I'd say still save up for the z-helm. Its just further away than expected but still a good addition to anyone's gears.

[Wiggy]

Im a level 66 Hunter with about 20mill to buy better equips with.
My current equips are:
17str/16dex Zhelm
16 Dex Blue Tai
9 Dex White Justice Cape
8 Weapon Attack Work Gloves.
86 attack Asianic Bow
3 Dex Green Steel-Tip Boots
Clean Earrings.

I don't need a level 70 Bow because I have a 95attack Golden Hinkel and my lvl70 overall.
Also I have a question about when should I get a 20+ Dex overall instead of scrolling them with 100% scroll.
Thanks for the help :cool:

[Retalion]

Im a level 66 Hunter with about 20mill to buy better equips with.
My current equips are:
17str/16dex Zhelm
16 Dex Blue Tai
9 Dex White Justice Cape
8 Weapon Attack Work Gloves.
86 attack Asianic Bow
3 Dex Green Steel-Tip Boots
Clean Earrings.

I don't need a level 70 Bow because I have a 95attack Golden Hinkel and my lvl70 overall.
Also I have a question about when should I get a 20+ Dex overall instead of scrolling them with 100% scroll.
Thanks for the help :cool:

I'd say wait till you're 90 to get a new overall as those are more often scrolled and it'd be easier to find a 20+ dex 90 overall than a 20+ dex 70 overall.

Only immeadiate upgrade you can make is to get a PAC (2/6ish? Not sure what 20 mill can get you).

Shoes can wait till 80 where dark wing boots are commonly scrolled.

[Wiggy]

I'd say wait till you're 90 to get a new overall as those are more often scrolled and it'd be easier to find a 20+ dex 90 overall than a 20+ dex 70 overall.

Only immeadiate upgrade you can make is to get a PAC (2/6ish? Not sure what 20 mill can get you).

Shoes can wait till 80 where dark wing boots are commonly scrolled.

Ok thanks for the help :f2:

[sumtingverywong]

alrite so i'm lvl 115 crossbowman, and i just got scammed of my 12 atk wgs, my 3/8 dex pac, and 8 dex earrings. what would you recommend wasting the last bit of my mesos on? my mesos count is currently 70m.

[Chompy]

Actually, the method I cited is the poor man's way of achieving 20 Dex, (6 base + 5 from one 30, + 9 from 100% the other 9 slots.) I was just trying to say that no Bowman ever needs to have an overall of below 20 Dex. This would not work for Warriors becuase they need the Accuracy from 60s, but for us Bowmen acc is worthless. Thanks for including it.

22-23 dex would probably result from hitting one 30 and then 60ing the rest of the overall. My own overall is 23 Dex, and that's how I got it.

I am not exact on the cost of overall 10s for dex.
But I clearly remember seeing them for 250k at the KPQ area (noob monezy)
So you could do 10% followed by a 30%
and that 14 Dex 8 slots on a 4 base overall.

[Retalion]

alrite so i'm lvl 115 crossbowman, and i just got scammed of my 12 atk wgs, my 3/8 dex pac, and 8 dex earrings. what would you recommend wasting the last bit of my mesos on? my mesos count is currently 70m.

Well, it depends. You want to blow it scrolling or on recovering gear?

I'd say 7 dex earrings (20 millish?), 8 atk wg (10 mill) and a 2/8ish PAC.

[Celsious]

Okay so I'm trying to decide which one has top priority.
Should I upgrade my 16 dex overall into a 26+ dex overall
OR
upgrade my speed shoes into facestompers [ 2 atk 2~4 dex]?
I'll be doing both but which one should come first?

[Beaner]

overall the shoes will do more for your damage range. however you will become slower. the overall really needs improvent too. but id go for the shoes since 10 dex is roughly 2 attack or even less for you and the fs comewith the 2 attack + some dex.

[ElTee]

Level 58 Hunter
Hat: Average blue maro with a couple def scrolls from lmpq on it
Pendant: +3 average Spiegalman
Earrings: Leaf earings
Bow: 75 Attack winkel
Gloves: 10 attack bwg
Cape: 5 STR icarus 2
Overall: 13 dex blue kimset
Shoes: Average yellow pierre shoes +3 jump, +4 speed.

I got about 27m to spend.

[Celsious]

overall the shoes will do more for your damage range. however you will become slower. the overall really needs improvent too. but id go for the shoes since 10 dex is roughly 2 attack or even less for you and the fs comewith the 2 attack + some dex.

I'm not really worried about speed since I train at newts + I'm usually partied with some NL. Thanks for your input. :glitter:

[Salguod]

Level 58 Hunter
Hat: Average blue maro with a couple def scrolls from lmpq on it
Pendant: +3 average Spiegalman
Earrings: Leaf earings
Bow: 75 Attack winkel
Gloves: 10 attack bwg
Cape: 5 STR icarus 2
Overall: 13 dex blue kimset
Shoes: Average yellow pierre shoes +3 jump, +4 speed.

I got about 27m to spend.

Nothing big you can upgrade right now, with the prices the way they are, so I think the you should save up for a zhelm (a big boost for a really low price) and then 100% a Kandiva.

[Retalion]

Level 58 Hunter
Hat: Average blue maro with a couple def scrolls from lmpq on it
Pendant: +3 average Spiegalman
Earrings: Leaf earings
Bow: 75 Attack winkel
Gloves: 10 attack bwg
Cape: 5 STR icarus 2
Overall: 13 dex blue kimset
Shoes: Average yellow pierre shoes +3 jump, +4 speed.

I got about 27m to spend.

As the above said, a z-helm and a 100%'d kandiva would be good to save up for/get. That being said, as kandivas dont need strength, you can perhaps switch your cape to a dex one. A PAC would be nice but would probably use up all the money you have (preventing you from getting a z-helm) so I'd say perhaps get an 8 dex napoleon for now or something.

@Celsious: I agree with Carlos there. Get shoes first. The lack of speed shouldnt be much of a problem as most of the time, training at newties is just stationary shooting for the most part.

[Beaner]

i know this isnt a pc thread, but i have no idea what this would sell for, perhaps one of you archers from other servers can tell me what it would go for there so i cn have something to work with. sorry jackk, if this anoys you just let me know and ill remove this post.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/carlos90_photos/MapleStory2008-08-0116-17-35-23.jpg

[Sn1perJohnE]

i know this isnt a pc thread, but i have no idea what this would sell for, perhaps one of you archers from other servers can tell me what it would go for there so i cn have something to work with. sorry jackk, if this anoys you just let me know and ill remove this post.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/carlos90_photos/MapleStory2008-08-0116-17-35-23.jpg


SHINY! @-@

i would have to say easily 500+ mil

[Retalion]

i know this isnt a pc thread, but i have no idea what this would sell for, perhaps one of you archers from other servers can tell me what it would go for there so i cn have something to work with. sorry jackk, if this anoys you just let me know and ill remove this post.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j255/carlos90_photos/MapleStory2008-08-0116-17-35-23.jpg


GTFO MY THREAD@!@!12112@@

kidding xD

I have no idea what its worth but I'd say this is the right place to post it (as this thread is all archer price related sort of). Gratz on scrolling that nice crossbow...geez, to think you're not satisfied with the 124 and are still scrolling D: Who knows, maybe if some Windian 11x sniper comes in with a 9x attack raven asking what to upgrade, we'd know what to direct him to ;)

[SoulQuincy]

Class: Sniper
Level: 119
Helm: 15/15/17/15 Zakum Helm (need scrolling but currently using it for wash)
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 90/90 Spiegalman (i planning on getting a 2 dex 90/90 =/)
Earrings: 11 Dex Gold Earrings (pretty much finalized)
Glove: 10 Attack w/g >.>
Bow: 110/4 Dark Raven (this is wat i need help on)
Cape: 3 atk 10 dex PAC (pretty much finalized)
Overall: 29 dex 4 str Blue Arzuna (i planning on getting a 30 dex but does 1 dex really matter?)
Shoes: 2 Attack 3 Dex Facestompers (pretty much finalized)
Skills Im considering Buying: im gonna buy 1 Se 20 if it fails ill hunt, and whos knows..i might get desperate and buy some more if the 1 i got from hunting failed
Mesos to spend: 700 mill

lvl 119 sniper with 60 base str =/
the problem im having is getting another xbow
ok i have 700m to spend, yes its alot but lets not forget i didnt buy se 20 yet, who knows how many tries its gonna take me to work =/
im thinking of getting a neschere that was 118+ but they r soooo expensive
i saw one in fm 118 atk for 2b and the H/O is 1b
clean neschere in bera is bs -.- 45m for one(ones dropped from ht)
i dont get how ppl land 4~5 30% so easily on a nes it took me an average of 670m to make the 110 dark raven yes u heard it right 670m.
another problem im having is base str, i currently have 60 base str+21 str thats enough for my raven only i was planing to get a ht necklace early but that might be a problem since most ht runners accept bm over mm...
casa looks wierd~
i dont think i can wait till 14x to get another xbow, any ideas without raising my base str? or is that the only option
its slowing my range down~!

[Technolink]

Quincy, transfer to Windia, buy Xbish's 120 shiner =P

[Anyoneisgod]

That Crossbow got sold for 550m

[chrome]

K. Two things I REALLY need to upgrade.

9 stat shoes.
7 DEX earrings.

Thing is...which one to upgrade? I was looking at 17 stat for shoes and 12 DEX for earrings, but I don't exactly know the prices. Obviously I'll go for the shoes if the prices are around the same, but the prices is what's stopping me from deciding. I have 230m to spend, not sure how much I'll have after I sell one of those.

[Retalion]

K. Two things I REALLY need to upgrade.

9 stat shoes.
7 DEX earrings.

Thing is...which one to upgrade? I was looking at 17 stat for shoes and 12 DEX for earrings, but I don't exactly know the prices. Obviously I'll go for the shoes if the prices are around the same, but the prices is what's stopping me from deciding. I have 230m to spend, not sure how much I'll have after I sell one of those.

http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1479293

Those sold for roughly 200 mill. Your 9 stat shoes will have almost no resale value, especially since its stats and not dex, sorry to say.

In terms of stat gain, you'd gain 8 from a pair of shoes whereas if you'd be looking at 15 dex earrings for an 8 stat upgrade. Of course there's always the split up option, in which you could probably get 14/1 shoes and say 11 dex earrings or something along those lines. Just tinker with the market prices you can find and go from there.

[SuperNerd]

Since I'm continuously ignored on Sleepywood when I ask about stuff like this, I'll hope I will actually get a response here. Here's my current equips and situation (level 78 Ranger, gonna be 79 soon):

- 101 ATT, 1 DEX Golden Hinkel
- 17 DEX Dark Linnex
- 7 ATT Work Glove
- 1/2, +90 HP/MP Spiegalman Necklace
- 7 DEX, 11 Jump Green Snowshoes
- 14 DEX Dark Patriot
- 4 DEX Leaf Earrings
- 1 DEX, +60 HP Branch Nose (plan to scroll last two slots with 2 more DEX)

So what would be up for my level 80 upgrade? I'm already trying to find someone selling a 21+ DEX Dark Pris for my next overall. And I know I'm gonna sell my Hinkel for about ~100 mil. to afford a nice 105/106/107 (with extra cash) Arund. What else should I look into?

[Technolink]

However nice your patriot is, a zhelm is that much nicer because of its 15 str as well. That patriot will fetch a pretty penny as well.

Otherwise, your glove is next.

Also, you don't have a cape. Get a 2/8 or 3/6 PAC.

The way I see it:
Zhelm>Arund>glove=cape>Overall>earrings>shoes>

[SuperNerd]

Oops, I knew I forgot to mention something. I have an 11 DEX Yellow Adventurer Cape, although I know PAC are better. It's just they're pricey and I'm not exactly rich at the very moment.

I've been planning on a Z-Helm for awhile, I might consider buying once I hit 80. As for the gloves, I've been eying a Dark Cordon with about 8/9 ATT along with its regular stats. Might be able to afford it soon enough.

Probably a little off topic, but how much do you think the Dark Patriot would fetch for anyways? I was always curious.

[Technolink]

The Cordon is perfect for you. After selling your hinkle and buying an around you should have enough left over. The hat should fetch a nice price, but then again it may not because a zhelm is better for cheaper.

[SuperNerd]

The Cordon is perfect for you. After selling your hinkle and buying an around you should have enough left over. The hat should fetch a nice price, but then again it may not because a zhelm is better for cheaper.

Alright, thanks. Once I hit 80, I'll start searching for a buyer who'll happily take my Hinkel off my hands for a nice price. I'll buy my Arund (105/106 ATT, although if I save a little extra, a 107 would be nice) and then if there's anything leftover, I'll also pawn off my hat for a pretty penny and buy a Z-Helm. Finally, I'll sell off my 7 ATT Work Glove, save a little more (thank god for Onyx Apples at APQ) and then buy a 8/9 ATT Dark Cordon. Finally get my Dark Pris. And just to let all Bowmen here know, if anyone in Khaini is selling a +21 DEX (or more) Dark Pris, I'm looking to buy.

I'm covered on shoes in my opinion.

I'll also be saving up to scroll Fallen Leaf Earrings with at least +5/6 DEX and then the rest for HP (I'm old-school, so I'm not going to HP-wash). Afterwards, focus putting at least 1 (hopefully 2) more DEX on my Branch Nose. And at 80 I'm gonna try to complete the Crimsonwood Keep quests to get that Deputy Star and that'll replace my Spiegalman Necklace. So I think I got everything covered.

Oh, the cape... well, that's rather spendy so I'll just be on the wait/lookout for a PAC that I can look into.

[cooldog67]

123BM
SE20 Passed
111 Atk dark nisrock
3/4 dex cape
21 dex overall
10 dex shoes
clean zhelm
13 scg
10dex earings
deputy pendant
what would be the option for most bang for the buck. i can save up, i was planning to get SE30 or MW20 then get a HT pendant but any ideas?

[WingZero]

I recently quit my ranger to make a xbow and I have one main question. He has a 114/4 casa for lvl 90 so he's pretty much set for an xbow, but should I also consider a decent raven (107atk) to get me through the 80s or just find a cheap one to save money?

Here are the equips that will be carried over from my ranger:

Overall: 19/6 red ades
Shoe: 10/2 red arnahs
Cape: 2/8 PAC
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 30hp speigel
Hat: 7 dex clean dark arlic
Glove: 11atk WG
Earrings: 6 dex moonstar earrings

-Copied from sw.net to get other viewpoints-

[cooldog67]

I recently quit my ranger to make a xbow and I have one main question. He has a 114/4 casa for lvl 90 so he's pretty much set for an xbow, but should I also consider a decent raven (107atk) to get me through the 80s or just find a cheap one to save money?

Here are the equips that will be carried over from my ranger:

Overall: 19/6 red ades
Shoe: 10/2 red arnahs
Cape: 2/8 PAC
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 30hp speigel
Hat: 7 dex clean dark arlic
Glove: 11atk WG
Earrings: 6 dex moonstar earrings

-Copied from sw.net to get other viewpoints-

definitely get a zhelm, you can upgrade like i di and sell the pac and get a 3/4dex cape ( more atk and you make ~6-7m) iwould somehow ask a frend to help you kill BF for a pendant.

[Beaner]

123BM
SE20 Passed
111 Atk dark nisrock
3/4 dex cape
21 dex overall
10 dex shoes
clean zhelm
13 scg
10dex earings
deputy pendant
what would be the option for most bang for the buck. i can save up, i was planning to get SE30 or MW20 then get a HT pendant but any ideas?

if the overall is high base str (6-7) then you good, however if its not, try to get 28-30 total stat overall, its the only thing in there that screams UPGRADE MEEEE.

after that save for your skills and after, go for HT pendant. remember BM dont get MW till 15x so forget about MW 20 for now, you might get to earn it later on.

[Retalion]

if the overall is high base str (6-7) then you good, however if its not, try to get 28-30 total stat overall, its the only thing in there that screams UPGRADE MEEEE.

after that save for your skills and after, go for HT pendant. remember BM dont get MW till 15x so forget about MW 20 for now, you might get to earn it later on.

Havent looked at this thread in a while xD

I'd say the cape could use a bit of an upgrade as well... as could the shoes. Those are just a few smaller, inexpensive upgrades before you get to a pendant upgrade. As Carlos said, MW 20 isnt needed for a long time so dont worry about it for now xP

[tzk221]

I'm currently a level 107 Sniper with the following equips:

Level 90 Lord Pirate's Hat, 15/15/14/15 Zakum Helmet
3/20 STR/DEX Dark Ades
11 DEX Dark Ades Shoes
8/2/5 ATK/STR/DEX Dark Focus
110 ATK Casa Crow
10 DEX Icarus Cape 2
8 DEX Rose Earrings
Deputy Star

I'm looking at a 113 ATK Dragon Shiner Cross; can I get a price check on that?

I currently have 80 mil. Help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[MariaColette]

Class: Hunter
Level: 58
Helm: 3 DEX Black Maro
Pendant: 1/2/1/1 Spiegelman (2 DEX)
Earrings: Clean Heart Earrings
Glove: 10 attack, 1 LUK Lunar WGs
Bow: 70 Atk, 7 Speed Soul Searcher
Cape: 3 atk Black Raggedy
Overall: 15 DEX Red Lumati (Fully scrolled)
Shoes: 13 Speed Whitebottoms (Fully scrolled)
Skills Im considering buying: None, too early for that.
Mesos to spend: 63 mil

I have 8 DEX Pink Flower earrings for level 60 given to me by an ally guildmate when I got hacked, so I don't have to worry about those.

I also have a clean, 81 Atk Kandiva, which I will be scrolling, so I don't think I need to upgrade my bow for now.

I don't plan on BUYING a ZHelm; it's been a goal of mine to earn one ever since I had my Ranger, which was never achieved.

The Raggedy was given to me as well. I was originally saving up for a 3 Atk, 8 DEX PAC, which was what my Ranger also had before I got hacked.

The WGs aren't mine, a friend borrowed them to me until I can get my own. However, I doubt she'll be playing GMS for a good while, so I'm probably going to worry about that last. I managed to scroll a 7 Atk, 1 slot WG and I'm debating on selling or keeping that.

[Retalion]

I'm currently a level 107 Sniper with the following equips:

Level 90 Lord Pirate's Hat, 15/15/14/15 Zakum Helmet
3/20 STR/DEX Dark Ades
11 DEX Dark Ades Shoes
8/2/5 ATK/STR/DEX Dark Focus
110 ATK Casa Crow
10 DEX Icarus Cape 2
8 DEX Rose Earrings
Deputy Star

I'm looking at a 113 ATK Dragon Shiner Cross; can I get a price check on that?

I currently have 80 mil. Help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.


113 shiner in Scania on SW with an asking price of 100 mill, someone telling them its worth 50 and the thread starter saying its sold... Its not saying much but I guess somewhere in between at the 70-80 range would be fairly accurate. Link (http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1490117)

Other upgrades: 8 atk focus to perhaps a 10 atk glove (You'll probably be adding in 25-30 mill) provided you dont need the str from the glove to use the xbow. If you need str, then switch the overall to a str based one (6/22? That should probably cost about the same as 3/22 or 3/23). The 10 dex IC 2 could be upgraded to a PAC but that can wait if you really want to upgrade your xbow and the likes and you can switch your cape to a str one so that you dont have to add extra points into str though Im sure you already know all of that xD

Edit: @ Maria: Sell the wg and use the 10 atk for now. For the most part, your gears are set. 63 mill is enough to get a z-helm and then perhaps maybe dex shoes? Then again, those could wait too. 13 speed is pretty nifty to use. You're right: The extra money should be saved towards a 3/8 cape if possible.

[VladTheLvr]

10 million meso with

7 ATT wg
9 dex raggedy
10 dex sauna
79 att rower +7
10 speed shoes.

What should I upgrade?

[WingZero]

10 million meso with

7 ATT wg
9 dex raggedy
10 dex sauna
79 att rower +7
10 speed shoes.

What should I upgrade?
You could 100% a kismet since it gives 6 more stats than your sauna, or save up for a decent GC. Your equips are decent right now so there's nothing to really upgrade with that kind of money.

[Retalion]

You could 100% a kismet since it gives 6 more stats than your sauna, or save up for a decent GC. Your equips are decent right now so there's nothing to really upgrade with that kind of money.

When did kismets give 16 dex (or 15/1, 14/2 or 4/12 or whatever)? You'll get 14 dex on an avg one and 15 dex on a perfect one, meaning 4-5 extra stats, not 6. That being said, its still a worthy upgrade for the price. Back in the day, you could sell a 10 dex sauna for more than what it'd take to buy a kismet and 100% it. That might've changed now with bathrobes though.

If you're looking for immediate upgrades, then I'd say you can try selling your 7 atk wg to get an 8 dex one. Other than that, there's not much you can do. As Wing has said, just save up for a good Gold Crow at 60 or a decent Nishada at 64 or something.

[DarkestTempest]

15 DEX/15 STR Zhelm
8 DEX lightning earrings
Deputy Star
14 DEX Icarus 1
12 DEX/6 STR Blue Pris
10 atk/2 DEX Blue Eyes
109 atk/2 DEX Casa
14 DEX/1 Blue Arnah Shoes
No SE 20, which can be considered an upgrade I guess.

Once I sell all the crap I have accumulated, I'll have about 70-80m or so. I COULD also sell my BH armor (for... I dunno, 150-200m?), though I'd rather keep it if I don't need something badly.

So, what should I buy next?

[Beaner]

15 DEX/15 STR Zhelm
8 DEX lightning earrings
Deputy Star
14 DEX Icarus 1
12 DEX/6 STR Blue Pris
10 atk/2 DEX Blue Eyes
109 atk/2 DEX Casa
14 DEX/1 Blue Arnah Shoes
No SE 20, which can be considered an upgrade I guess.

Once I sell all the crap I have accumulated, I'll have about 70-80m or so. I COULD also sell my BH armor (for... I dunno, 150-200m?), though I'd rather keep it if I don't need something badly.

So, what should I buy next?

id try to get a 113+ casa or a good overall 25+ total stats sounds about right. i dont know the casa but the overall shouldnt be more than 20-30mill. the casa would drain most if not all your mesos but that 109 really needs an upgrade.

[Typhoon]

id try to get a 113+ casa or a good overall 25+ total stats sounds about right. i dont know the casa but the overall shouldnt be more than 20-30mill. the casa would drain most if not all your mesos but that 109 really needs an upgrade.

zomg xBish! you quit? o_O

[Beaner]

zomg xBish! you quit? o_O

well i was forced to quit my marksman, i still play though

[MariaColette]

Edit: @ Maria: Sell the wg and use the 10 atk for now. For the most part, your gears are set. 63 mill is enough to get a z-helm and then perhaps maybe dex shoes? Then again, those could wait too. 13 speed is pretty nifty to use. You're right: The extra money should be saved towards a 3/8 cape if possible.

How did I not see this? :X Anyway, I'll keep saving for my cape, then. x) Like I said before, I plan on earning a helm, rather than buy one. I saw an auction for 9 DEX Elf Shoes for 10m... I know crap about prices so I don't know if those are too expensive or not. :<

[Typhoon]

well i was forced to quit my marksman, i still play though

Why were you forced to quit?

[Corn]

Why were you forced to quit?

Hacked. Enough said.

[Kiley]

I have a:
Clean Zakum Helmet
100%'ed overall
Clean earrings
3 Dex YSS
11 Atk Gloves ( Borrowed, but won't be much of a problem )
2/4 Dex PAC
90 Atk Asianic

Uh, since this is my secondary character I'll spend up to like 50-70mil. Maybe more if I make some mesos.

Should I just save up for a lv80 or lv90 bow?

[Celsious]

I have a:
Clean Zakum Helmet
100%'ed overall
Clean earrings
3 Dex YSS
11 Atk Gloves ( Borrowed, but won't be much of a problem )
2/4 Dex PAC
90 Atk Asianic

Uh, since this is my secondary character I'll spend up to like 50-70mil. Maybe more if I make some mesos.

Should I just save up for a lv80 or lv90 bow?

Let's see.. 90 atk Asianic. I want to say go for at least a 100+ atk arund. I think you'll be able to afford that; it depends on your server. However, if you level fast, and really want a better bow, save up for a Metus.

[KaidaTan]

I have a:
Clean Zakum Helmet
100%'ed overall
Clean earrings
3 Dex YSS
11 Atk Gloves ( Borrowed, but won't be much of a problem )
2/4 Dex PAC
90 Atk Asianic

Uh, since this is my secondary character I'll spend up to like 50-70mil. Maybe more if I make some mesos.
I pretty much agree with Celsious. I guess you could throw a few mil at 6 DEX earrings, perhaps scroll those YSS for DEX or 60% some bowman shoes. Other than that definitely concentrate on the bow.


Umm... here's my stuff.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5528/equipstm9.png
I'm not showing it to flaunt it, I honestly want opinions on where to go next. Maaaybe I could pick up a few stats on my cape, but that could be too expensive for so little gain. I could try getting a better overall by collecting and mass-scrolling them, though that would take a fairly long time to do. I could try and scroll a better helm since mine is scrolled slightly below average. Or I could just throw some chaos scrolls on capes/shoes and pray. What do you guys think? Expert market opinions appreciated.

[Technolink]

You're upgrades are fairly maxed out. This is the advice I'd give everyone, not just godly people.

Since I don't know godly prices too well, what you should do is evaluate what the next step in each of your equips would be.

Then, assess both the market price, and the price to self-scroll (use averages via a calculator). See which will give the most benefit for cheapest, and set your mind on that.

[Celsious]

I pretty much agree with Celsious. I guess you could throw a few mil at 6 DEX earrings, perhaps scroll those YSS for DEX or 60% some bowman shoes. Other than that definitely concentrate on the bow.


Umm... here's my stuff.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5528/equipstm9.png
I'm not showing it to flaunt it, I honestly want opinions on where to go next. Maaaybe I could pick up a few stats on my cape, but that could be too expensive for so little gain. I could try getting a better overall by collecting and mass-scrolling them, though that would take a fairly long time to do. I could try and scroll a better helm since mine is scrolled slightly below average. Or I could just throw some chaos scrolls on capes/shoes and pray. What do you guys think? Expert market opinions appreciated.

Not flaunting at all. ^^
I'd pick your PAC as the one to upgrade. Everything else looks perfectly fine.

[cooldog67]

I pretty much agree with Celsious. I guess you could throw a few mil at 6 DEX earrings, perhaps scroll those YSS for DEX or 60% some bowman shoes. Other than that definitely concentrate on the bow.


Umm... here's my stuff.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5528/equipstm9.png
I'm not showing it to flaunt it, I honestly want opinions on where to go next. Maaaybe I could pick up a few stats on my cape, but that could be too expensive for so little gain. I could try getting a better overall by collecting and mass-scrolling them, though that would take a fairly long time to do. I could try and scroll a better helm since mine is scrolled slightly below average. Or I could just throw some chaos scrolls on capes/shoes and pray. What do you guys think? Expert market opinions appreciated.
depending on your budget, if low budget- upgrade cape with more dex. higher budget- bomb chaos scrolls on cape or face stompers.id upgrade the cape since its more crappily scrolled and youd payless replacing it with a 5atk+ cape.

[ridanmos]

My turn to post:
Level 82 Ranger, 365/61 dex/str base
Zhelm 15/15 dex/str
Silver Deputy Star 5/5 dex/str
Dark Pris 16/2 dex/str
Dark Wing Boots 11 dex
Earrings 7 dex
BWG 12 att
PaC 3 att 5 str
Gold Hinkle 102 att 2 dex

I'm kinda broke (got around 12m at the moment), but which should I be aiming to upgrade next, and how much should it cost?

Thanks

[Celsious]

My turn to post:
Level 82 Ranger, 365/61 dex/str base
Zhelm 15/15 dex/str
Silver Deputy Star 5/5 dex/str
Dark Pris 16/2 dex/str
Dark Wing Boots 11 dex
Earrings 7 dex
BWG 12 att
PaC 3 att 5 str
Gold Hinkle 102 att 2 dex

I'm kinda broke (got around 12m at the moment), but which should I be aiming to upgrade next, and how much should it cost?

Thanks


Overall > Earrings > Save for higher bow > Cape or shoes and vice versa.
Cost wise? I dunno your server.

[ridanmos]

Overall > Earrings > Save for higher bow > Cape or shoes and vice versa.
Cost wise? I dunno your server.

Oh, I was sure I update my user info with it...
Anyway, I'm on Scania.

P.S, I've been looking for scrolled Pris for sale and hardly find any (and those are either way off my budget, like 30 stats, or absurd prices, like ~50k nx on MTS).

[WolvenZX]

Class: Crossbowman
Level: 65
Helm: Umm, 3 dex green maro, bone helm, 2 atk pumpkin helm, Zhelm on tues.
Pendant: 5/5/5/5 Dep Star
Earrings: 6 Dex Blue Sapphire
Glove: 10 atk BWG
Bow: 104/3 Maple Nishida
Cape: 3 atk, 4 str Pac
Overall: 25 Dex, 1 Str Blue Tai
Shoes: 2 str red pierres
Mesos to spend: 35ish mil, I've been considering selling my 16 atk shield for a 14 + some mesos for more funding

Right now, I'm thinking of a 6+ str 3 atk Pac, and like 4 str blue elf shoes at level 70, and hoping for a 15+ str zhelm, and thinking of a 49 str cap (currently 38 str cap for when I used a heckler) for a raven, and ive figured I would need like a 105 raven to do more damage, but I'm thinking I'd need more to compensate for the speed loss going from Fast to Normal

[Lozmaster]

Class: Ranger
Level: 89
Helm: 15/17/15/16 Zakum Helm
Pendant: 2/1/1/1/30/30 Spiegalman 2slot
Earrings: 12 dex 0 slot Celestial earrings
Glove: 15 attack Stormcasters
Bow: 107/5 Fire Arund
Cape: 4 atk 8 str PAC
Overall: 29dex 2 str Dark Pris
Shoes: 2att 4dex Facestompers
Face eq: none.

Mesos to spend: As Much as I need within reason, aka under 500millish

Not sure what to go for, should really get a deputy star I suppose, but i'd prefer to earn that later, and still don't have a face equip. Not intrested in scrolling my helm either.

[GMSInfighter]

Hello, Currently a level 41 *Probably 43 by today* Crossbowman.

My equips are:

- 64atk 5acc. Heckler.
- 10 ATK Work Glove.
- 20 DEX Sauna.
- 6 DEX Earrings.
- 9 STR Ic3. *In one level*
- Masked hat/Bamboo hat.

Ok so, what should I upgrade next? Don't worry about mesos, I have none but I'll be sure to take notes on what to buy and make enough money to upgrade.

A better question would be what Xbow should I majorly scroll next? Planning on trying to land a couple 30%'s on a Heckler.

[Dyxanije]

Hello, Currently a level 41 *Probably 43 by today* Crossbowman.

My equips are:

- 64atk 5acc. Heckler.
- 10 ATK Work Glove.
- 20 DEX Sauna.
- 6 DEX Earrings.
- 9 STR Ic3. *In one level*
- Masked hat/Bamboo hat.

Ok so, what should I upgrade next? Don't worry about mesos, I have none but I'll be sure to take notes on what to buy and make enough money to upgrade.

A better question would be what Xbow should I majorly scroll next? Planning on trying to land a couple 30%'s on a Heckler.

Well, it really depends on what you could find and afford, I used a 67 ATT Maple Crossbow and then I upgraded to a 79 ATT Rower. When you get to level 43 and if you have the funds to scroll a Maple Crossbow then that is what I suggest you do. Other wise you could just wait and save funds to make a good Rower (70%'s are so cheap ^_^).

As for equips, get a Spiegelmann Necklace and save for a Zakum Helm.

I hope that helped =/.

[GMSInfighter]

I have a spieglemann's and I'm earning my Zhelm. (Waiting till I can actually hit it and help).

So I'll go by your crossbow stuff.

[WolvenZX]

Hello, Currently a level 41 *Probably 43 by today* Crossbowman.

My equips are:

- 64atk 5acc. Heckler.
- 10 ATK Work Glove.
- 20 DEX Sauna.
- 6 DEX Earrings.
- 9 STR Ic3. *In one level*
- Masked hat/Bamboo hat.

Ok so, what should I upgrade next? Don't worry about mesos, I have none but I'll be sure to take notes on what to buy and make enough money to upgrade.

A better question would be what Xbow should I majorly scroll next? Planning on trying to land a couple 30%'s on a Heckler.

i have a 68/1 heckler i could sell to you over mts if you'd like, i sold off my 71 for like 3m

[GMSInfighter]

Crossbow's can't be sold in MTS.

:[

[WolvenZX]

Crossbow's can't be sold in MTS.

:[
srs? aw, nvm then

[DarkestTempest]

Inventory time~

Server: Bera
Class: Marksman
Level: 132
Helm: 15/15/15/15 Zakum Helm (scrolled for HP, so I don't want to change this for a while)
Pendant: clean deputy
Earrings: 8 DEX Lightning Earrings
Glove: 12 attack BWG
Crossbow: 114/2 Dark Neschere
Cape: 3 atk 7 dex PAC
Overall: 22/6 Green Arzuna
Shoes: 14/1 Blue Arnah
Skills Im considering buying: SE30 (and Marksman Boost 30, but that's chump change)
Mesos to spend: 205m

Kinda at a loss at what to upgrade next. Some help would be appreciated.

[Kevo]

Inventory time~

Server: Bera
Class: Marksman
Level: 132
Helm: 15/15/15/15 Zakum Helm (scrolled for HP, so I don't want to change this for a while)
Pendant: clean deputy
Earrings: 8 DEX Lightning Earrings
Glove: 12 attack BWG
Crossbow: 114/2 Dark Neschere
Cape: 3 atk 7 dex PAC
Overall: 22/6 Green Arzuna
Shoes: 14/1 Blue Arnah
Skills Im considering buying: SE30 (and Marksman Boost 30, but that's chump change)
Mesos to spend: 205m

Kinda at a loss at what to upgrade next. Some help would be appreciated.

HT Pendant, earrings, or SE30 in my opinion.

[Worthyness]

curious... what else besides dex eqrrings (no mesos for anything at all, so this is for future reference)

crap zhelm. need to reloot.
0 dex earrings
18 dex/ 7 str overall
108/1 nisrock
2str, 7 dex shoes
10 atk wg
2/6 PAC
deputy star

I have Hurricane 20, but not enough points into it to try an upgrade
passed expertness 20, should i aim for 30?
No concentrate: should i hunt for th book?
i got like 5 mil to spend lol

Thanks in advance

[Lozmaster]

@ above

I would upgrade in the following order.
Glove > PAC > Earrings> Overall > shoes. (ignoring bow because of cost)

Hard to say what to without any idea of what meso you have, xD
Don't want to risk scrolling helm though.
I need help deciding on what to upgrade next too.
(1 bill meso to spend, xD)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5447/archeriinkequipsuk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/archeriinkequipsuk0.jpg/1/w928.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img55/archeriinkequipsuk0.jpg/1/)

[Worthyness]

LOL i should have put more details. here is more detail:

around 20 ish mil (after possible mount):

the 2/6 PAC is 6 STR

[Technolink]

So I have 50~70M to spend (some trades coming and going)
My equips are: (bold what I think needs to be upgraded)
Zhelm
Dep Star
11 dex shoes
20/4 arzuna
114/1 nesch
2/5 PAC
8 atk 2 str 5 dex cordon
8 dex earrings

I'm extremely price illeterate (I'm on Broa), and I'm not quite sure if upgrading to a 3/8 PAC or an 11 atk glove would be cost effective (or even a 12 atk).

I do need 2 str to equip my xbow, but I can just throw my goblin cape on for 1 level.

I'm so lost on buying stuff >_>

[GMSInfighter]

Technolink - Buying a 10atk WG would be your best bet. Would you rather increase 1atk or 2atk? So I would choose WG over PAC.

[atlcard]

Technolink - Buying a 10atk WG would be your best bet. Would you rather increase 1atk or 2atk? So I would choose WG over PAC.

Actually with the stats on the cordon, and at lvl 100, thats the equivalent of of a 9 atk glove already with some added benefits.

PAC's are cheap due to the recent box event.

I am pretty conservative $$ wise - I cant see spending only on a 10 atk wg.
I would respctfully disagree and go with the cape.

[Technolink]

So like a 3/5, or a 3/8. I've only seend 3/8s for 65~70M.

A 10 atk wg is only slightly better then which I have, which is why I say 11 or 12. I'll start keeping an eye on the prices.

[Actis]

Hey Southperry! First thread, hurray.

I have a little question on what to upgrade of my equipments.

Current stats :

Level95 sniper

STR : 104 (78+26)
DEX : 472 (413+59)
INT : 24 (4+20)
LUK : 25 (5+20)
HP: 2600
MP : 1701
Damage Range : 1276-2254
~
Current equipments :

-15/14/15/15 Zhelm
-16/3 Green Ades
-4/4dex PAC
-10atk wg
-7dex 3str Red Ades Shoes
-Clean Deputy (Not going to scroll it, but just stating)
-111/4 Golden Raven
-9dex earrings
~

Ive got around 140m to spend, and extra mesos from selling Time Leap 30 Skillbook (Howmuch is this worth btw??)
~

Also : My skills are

-30 strafe
-24 AE
-11 Blizz
-6 puppet
-5 MB
-0 Eagle

Should I max AE in the next 2 levels?


And :

If I have to e.g. Get better Dex Earrings, could you try to give me the price of my current earring, and the price for the earring you said me to upgrade? Thanks in advance

Peace

[tzk221]

1. Hi Actis, remember me?

2. I don't know what you should do for your equips, but for your skills, I think you should max AE and go to Typhons. Then, get 21 Blizzard, 20 Puppet, and 15 Eagle in that order. Despues, you can decide how to allot your skills into Thrust, Mortal Blow, and Eagle.

3. Lol at your first thread ending before it begun.

[WingZero]

Hey Southperry! First thread, hurray.

I have a little question on what to upgrade of my equipments.

Current stats :

Level95 sniper

STR : 104 (78+26)
DEX : 472 (413+59)
INT : 24 (4+20)
LUK : 25 (5+20)
HP: 2600
MP : 1701
Damage Range : 1276-2254
~
Current equipments :

-15/14/15/15 Zhelm
-16/3 Green Ades
-4/4dex PAC
-10atk wg
-7dex 3str Red Ades Shoes
-Clean Deputy (Not going to scroll it, but just stating)
-111/4 Golden Raven
-9dex earrings
~

Ive got around 140m to spend, and extra mesos from selling Time Leap 30 Skillbook (Howmuch is this worth btw??)
~

Also : My skills are

-30 strafe
-24 AE
-11 Blizz
-6 puppet
-5 MB
-0 Eagle

Should I max AE in the next 2 levels?


And :

If I have to e.g. Get better Dex Earrings, could you try to give me the price of my current earring, and the price for the earring you said me to upgrade? Thanks in advance

Peace

Get a better overall, it's the only piece of equipment you have that seems to be weak.
I'm assuming you're in Broa, so it might sell for 18m-20m? I bought my 22/7 red ades for 63m awhile ago, but I'm not sure on the current prices.

[Actis]

Get a better overall, it's the only piece of equipment you have that seems to be weak.
I'm assuming you're in Broa, so it might sell for 18m-20m? I bought my 22/7 red ades for 63m awhile ago, but I'm not sure on the current prices.

Why would you assume that I am in Broa? :O

Yeah, forgot that. World is Scania.

@tzk

Yes I do. Do you still play?

[tzk221]

Yep, I still play actively.

[WingZero]

Why would you assume that I am in Broa? :O

Yeah, forgot that. World is Scania.

@tzk

Yes I do. Do you still play?
I thought I remember your basil ID said that you were in Broa. >_>

[Cyanne]

Okay, I'm having a bit of trouble planned ahead to avoid AP resetting as much as possible, and it would be great is anyone could spot problems or with the plan.

This is the equipment set I'm planning on using from 100-120, assuming maker doesn't come out before I reach 120. I'm planning on swapping the cape out for a 3/10str cape, but I don't have it yet, so I just edited the image. I'm also planning on buying a horntail necklace for when I reach 120.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee235/CyanneMage/Stuff.jpg

My base str is currently 32, using a raven, and I need a bit more str to wield this neschere at level 100. I'm not gonna opt for the "long-run" route and use a raven until I hit 120 and buy a horntail necklace. My current shoe is 3 str.

Here's what I'm looking at:

Pre-100: 80 str
100-120: -1 str shoe, +10 str cape (swap in for dex), +11 str (base str: 43) (+20 net, 0 for target weapon)
120+ pre-maker: -10 str cape (swap dex cape in), +17 str pendant (+7 net for target weapon)

After the Maker skill comes out, I plan on forging a single Red Hunter Boots with a high-grade power crystal, a high-grade dex crystal, and a high-grade topaz, then pray and scroll with 60%s. Red Hunter Boots averages at 3 str, so that'll make 8 str, or a 6 str increase.
I will also start forging blue armises with a mid-grade power crystal and a mid-grade dex crystal with the intention of tossing on 30% overall dex scrolls, swapping out the top and bottom I'm using right now. Blue armises average at 4 str, coming out to 7 str, or a 12 str decrease under my current 19 str topwear.
So, if I've calculated this correctly, this should make...

120+ post-maker: +6 str shoe, -12 str (+1 net for target weapon)

If I've done everything correctly, that would mean I'd only need to use one AP reset to optimize my stats after maker comes out, capping str at 43. Things that could possibly change this plan include variance in horntail necklace and eventual scrolled zakum helm stats, unexpected maker-related item prices, or a combination of future iTCG sets releasing significant amounts of facestomper materials and continued reintroduction of the gachapon box event (which might lead me to decide to use chaosed facestompers).

Can anyone find any mistakes within my plan there? I'm also open to any suggestions or advice.

[cooldog67]

you can easily upgrade to 4/10 cape with current prices everything is great. the only thing i see to upgrade would be glove or shes but im guessing you need the str from the shoes HT pendant would be the first thing to get at lvl 120 (MORE INT=WIN).

[BoredRanger]

Sever: Windia
Class: Ranger
Level: 98
Helm: 15/14/14/15 Zakum Helm
Pendant: none
Earrings: none..looking, can't find any.
Glove: 10 att
Bow: 107/2 metus (red)
Cape: 10 dex 2 att PaC
Overall: 13dex/6 str anes. lols 100% scroll.
Shoes: 4 dex/2 att stompers
Mesos to spend: 120m, + a bow to sell I'm not sure how much will fetch these days. 103 Hinkel.

I don't self-scroll, I'm just terrible at it and get lousy results which explains my overall. GL finding a scrolls female ranger overall. =\ I haven't played for a year, so I am unsure of whats out now. I see a lot of blue metus which were super rare. Would something like a 100/103 blue metus be better than my 107, because of the "fast"? Are there better bows now that I should uncap my STR and get? It's currently 96 with my equips.

[Goals]

Level: Unstarted
Class: To-Be-Bowmaster
Equips: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8087/maple0000psr.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maple0000psr.jpg)

What kind of godly gear would pair up with a person with a bow of this attack? (I suck at planning out gear, I'll probably spend all my mesos on something extremely good and the rest of my other gear will be crap D:)

Also ignore the poorness, I'll merchant for as long as it takes for a decent set of BM gear. Please try to keep it below 4.5b so I don't need to spend more than 2 months in FM.

[Dyxanije]

Level: Unstarted
Class: To-Be-Bowmaster
Equips: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8087/maple0000psr.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maple0000psr.jpg)

What kind of godly gear would pair up with a person with a bow of this attack? (I suck at planning out gear, I'll probably spend all my mesos on something extremely good and the rest of my other gear will be crap D:)

Also ignore the poorness, I'll merchant for as long as it takes for a decent set of BM gear. Please try to keep it below 4.5b so I don't need to spend more than 2 months in FM.

Lets see you will probably want:
Zakum Helm
Naricain Pendant
10+ Dex Earrings
15 Attack SCG
X Dex Face Accessory
30+ Stat Overall/Top and Bottom set
15+ Dex Bowman Shoes or Facestompers (whatever you prefer)
4/8+ PAC

That is all that I can think of.

[Goals]

Lets see you will probably want:
Zakum Helm
Naricain Pendant
10+ Dex Earrings
15 Attack SCG
X Dex Face Accessory
30+ Stat Overall/Top and Bottom set
15+ Dex Bowman Shoes or Facestompers (whatever you prefer)
4/8+ PAC

That is all that I can think of.

Thank you, but what attack cape and FS can I get for under a bil apiece? All the other gears look pretty good though. :f2:

[Dyxanije]

Thank you, but what attack cape and FS can I get for under a bil apiece? All the other gears look pretty good though. :f2:

Hm, I only know the prices in Bellocan so I can't say for sure for other servers but a 3 Attack PAC and 2 Attack Facestompers would be good. A cheap alternative to Facestompers would be some Bowman shoes.

Check out this thread (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9781).

[Veneni]

Hi I'm lvl 70 & my equips are as follows:
- clean zhelmet
- clean earrings
- deputy star
- 15 dex overall (scrolled with 100%'s)
- 2 att 5 dex pac
- 7 att glove
- 10 speed shoes
- 96 att Golden Hinkel

What to upgrade next? I got about 100m. I was thinking upgrading my glove to 11 att, that ok? Just checking with you pro's =)

[MasPan]

Thank you, but what attack cape and FS can I get for under a bil apiece? All the other gears look pretty good though. :f2:

1bil apiece is a pretty solid amount, you could manage a 6-7 attack cape at least, and more than likely a 4-5 attack FS.
-edit-
With the advent of droppable Chaos Scrolls, merching may be less effective than simply farming + selling.

[Chompy]

1bil apiece is a pretty solid amount, you could manage a 6-7 attack cape at least, and more than likely a 4-5 attack FS.
-edit-
With the advent of droppable Chaos Scrolls, merching may be less effective than simply farming + selling.

That effect won't last long.
So if you plan to farm Chaos Scrolls do it quick. In Bello I saw some unsold at 125 mil.
:glitter:

[SuperNerd]

Well, it sorta falls under this thread, but I need help with my situation.

A couple of months ago I bought a 106 ATT, +3 DEX Fire Arund for 100+ mil. when Arunds of that attack and all were rather rare and in short supply for the demand.

Now I'm looking to resell it, since I'm taking a long break from my Ranger. I've heard tons of different suggestions for its price, and I can't seem to sell it or get an actual, approximate price for it. I want to at least get a good chunk of what I paid for, back, for some funding.

How much should I try to keep selling it at? I recently got an offer of 40 mil. for it--should I just stop and go with that?

[BoxTag]

I'm a level 37 Xbowman but am definately sticking with this character until I decide to quit. Here's a rundown if my current equips and equips that I already have to use at later levels:

3 dex green bamboo (using until 50)
17str /15dex clean zhelm (scissored from my marauder, using from 50+)
20 dex bathrobe
10 attack wg
2 attack/8 dex PAC (50+)
Deputy Star (50+)
10 dex Cecelia's earrings (60+)
no shoes

60 attack Maple Crow(currently using and is 100%'d)
67 attack Maple Crossbow(Will use at 43 and is 100%'d)
88 attack/ 2 dex Rower (Will use 50-64)
95 attack Nishada (Will use 64-80)
110 attack/ 3 dex Dark Raven (Will use at 80)

I have 28 Base str, so at 50 I'll have 28+17+5 = 50 dex for rower, and will add base dex when I get close to needing it for the Raven.
Nothing is hammered and I don't plan on spending any money hammering anything. I have about 110m total and this will include potion money. I'll sell the used equips for a little less than the price at the time just to sell it fast. Reasoning for the current equips is that I xferred from my marauder and some things like shoes weren't common class equips. :excellent:
Thanks!

[Dyxanije]

You are doing fine so far. Try to get a pair of White Bottom Shoes and use 100% Speed scrolls on them. Once you get to level 45 try to make a decent pair of shoes via Maker.

[welp]

I'm a lv. 101 Ranger with the following equips :
15/25/15/15 Zakum Helmet
13 ATT Stormcaster Glove
30 DEX Arzuna
11 DEX Earrings
6 ATT 2 DEX Pink Adventurer Cape
2 ATT 3 DEX Facestomper Shoes
109 ATT 3 DEX Arund

and the standard deputy star, white belt, and veteran medal.

Everything is unscissored but I refuse to buy NX and I have nothing to sell in MTS. What should I buy now? Money isn't really a problem.

[Narguz]

Upgrade as follow
Bow > Deputy to MoN > Witch belt.

[Shidoshi]

I'd say:
1. deputy to MoN.
2. White belt to whatever belt you have the most patience to get.
3. bow

In terms of cost/benefit

[SuperNerd]

Well, after hours of grinding tonight, I finally hit level 90 on my Marauder and I'm worn out of the Pirate life for a bit. I wanted to take a small break from my Marauder main and make a Crossbowman.

After hearing a lot about them, I'm fully convinced I want to go the Crossbowman way, rather than Bowman.

So I guess my first question would be:

Should I attempt to get a STR Top and DEX Bottom, or just stick with a regular Bowman overall scrolled for DEX? If Top and Bottom, how much of STR and DEX should I look for (like should I only buy if it's +15 STR or more, etc.)?

[ArbalistMaster]

just go with the overall. top/bottom set used to be a good option but then maker came out. And there are no top/bottom sets over lvl 50

[welp]

I'm a lv. 101 Ranger with the following equips :
15/25/15/15 Zakum Helmet
13 ATT Stormcaster Glove
30 DEX Arzuna
11 DEX Earrings
6 ATT 2 DEX Pink Adventurer Cape
2 ATT 3 DEX Facestomper Shoes
109 ATT 3 DEX Arund

and the standard deputy star, white belt, and veteran medal.

Everything is unscissored but I refuse to buy NX and I have nothing to sell in MTS. What should I buy now? Money isn't really a problem.

Okay so I've obtained a Purple Belt (haven't scrolled it yet, don't really plan to, it was a bitch to obtain.) I heard CWKPQ is glitched so I can hold off on MoN, besides I'm lv. 102. So should I hammer my Arund and potentially get it to 113 or should I just sell it and try to find a better bow? Keep in mind that I'm barely able to hold my Arund, with my equips I'm up to 91 STR.

[Nalek]

15/17/15/15 clean zhelm
11 dex earrings
Dep star
5/3/3/3 blue belt
25 STR bathrobe hammered
12 atk hammered wg
6 STR 3 atk unhammered pac
2 STR 6 DEX shoes
95 atk Bow of magical destruction
Planning on upgrading shoes which would be the best to maker for str? Also what else should I upgrade working with about 150m. Not including the bow I have a 118 blue metus on my account tht I will be useing at level 90.

[Sn1perJohnE]

15/17/15/15 clean zhelm
11 dex earrings
Dep star
5/3/3/3 blue belt
25 STR bathrobe hammered
12 atk hammered wg
6 STR 3 atk unhammered pac
2 STR 6 DEX shoes
95 atk Bow of magical destruction
Planning on upgrading shoes which would be the best to maker for str? Also what else should I upgrade working with about 150m. Not including the bow I have a 118 blue metus on my account tht I will be useing at level 90.

Hmmm, for the most part, you fine as is, maybe look for an 8~10 str 3 att pac. For shoes, usually the red or blue shoes at lvl 80 have more str clean, and youd be able to use both a str and dex crystal when making them.

Other than that, you could think about makering a high lvl glove and using str and dex crystals and aim for a 12 attack+ on them.

[trumpetdude]

Class: Crossbowman
Level: 60
Server: Broa
Helm: 15/14/16/15 Zakum Helm
Pendant: None
Earrings: 1/1/1/1 Altair
Glove: None. I had 8 dex gloves but lent them out and don't know if they'll come back.
Bow: 78 Golden Crow. I have a couple nishadas to try to 60%s on.
Cape: 1 str, 10 speed icarus
Belt: White
Ring: level 30 Aran
Medal: Jr. Adventurer
Overall: 16 Dex Kismet
Shoes: 1 dex 5 jump green hunter boots
Mesos to spend: I broke the bank a couple weeks ago getting the helm. I tried my luck with two gold boxes and wound up with an apple and a white scroll, so whatever I can get for them is what I have to spend. I plan on using maker for my overall and crossbows for a while.

[MariaColette]

kekeke stickybump

Yeah, the most obvious here would be upgrading my bow. I'm level 140 right now and using the following...

18 ATT BWGs
4 STR, 2 DEX, 9 slot Branch Nose
2 DEX, 0 slot Spectrum Goggles
110 ATT, 4 DEX Dark Arund
22 DEX, 6 STR Red Anes
15 DEX, 18 Jump Dark Wing Boots
4/7/4/4 Red Belt
Average stat, 11 ATT Mark of Naricain
10 DEX Cat Eye Earrings
3 ATT, 8 DEX Pink Adventurer Cape

The cape and bow are borrowed from a friend who quit, but I'd like to replace them so I'll have my -own- cape and bow. Something tells me I should have a 12x+ attack bow by now, though. I'm piss poor but I can easily save up for something better. Problem is that I'm clueless as to the cost(s). Ignoring the bow and cape, though, I assume I'm good on everything else?

[Lost my Mind.]

Upgrading to a better bow would be my priority if I were in your shoes. Not sure what the market in Windia is like for Bows lately so this may not be applicable but in other worlds like Scania and Bera there have been some 12x Nisrocks on sale for rather cheap prices due to Evan hype im guessing, so if you have the Str that might be the way to go.
Other then that upgrading to either a better cape or a 3x Dex Zakum helmet or something equivilent (you didnt list it so I've got no idea what you have).
The rest of your gear is quite decent and most of it would be making rather large dents in your funds if you wanted to upgrade.

[darksyte]

Class: Hunter
Level: 58
Helm: 16/16/15/15 zhelm
Pendant: 1/2/1/1 Spiegelman's necklace
Earrings: Clean skulls
Glove: 7 attack WG
Bow: 72 Olympus
Cape: Clean Alcadno
Overall: 5 Str 10 Dex Red Kismet
Shoes: 0/1/1/1 Slime Shoes
Skills:
Mesos to spend: 90-120 mil (depending if my PB headband sells)

EDIT: forgot to mention i have a lilins ring 2 and broken glasses 1/1/1/1 + the lvl 40 pharaoh belt

[Spirit]

Sigh, level 60 xbowman:

Helm: 12 dex | Amdusias Hat
Pendant: 1/1/1/1 | Spiegalman
Earrings: 1/1/1/1 0 slot | Free Spirit Piercing
Glove: 3 str 3 dex | Dark Garner
Bow: 93/2 | Gross Jaeger [Cassandra, planning on replacing with a real Jaeger in a week after adding 5 base str. Probably scrolled with 100&#37;s or a few 60%s. Or if I get to 80 within a week, I'll make a Raven]
Cape: 5 speed 2 jump | Alcadno Cape
Overall: 7 str 11 dex 0 slot | Red Choro
Shoes: 4 str, 2 dex | Blue Gore Boots
Medal: 2/2/2/2 | Mushroom Kingdom Protector
Belt: 1/1/1/1 | White from Dojo
Ring: Critical Ring

Will be Makering, all my items are makered with +2 STR.
Base STR is 46, with +19 from equips. So 65. Plus 5 base STR makes 70, enough for a Jaeger.
Base DEX is 266, +30 from equips. [not counting +2 dex from Cassandra's Jaeger]

...I think I just about streched my mesos to the limit.

Mesos to spend: 2 mil, Galicia.
If I really, really, have to, I can probably get about 15m? tops in a few days.

Thanks for reading! xD

[Julliant]

Hey guys, I have a WA129 Reverse Engau (10 DEX, 1 STR). That's 3x30%, 3 slots left with 1 slot failed. It has no special abilities.

As an end-game weapon, should I continue scrolling it? I can use Pam's Song from the latest MSEA patch to reverse the failed slot, and finish it to become WA159 (16 dex, 1 STR). I'll be spending a lot of Miracle scrolls. There's the new Night Raven Bow, which when acquired through gachapon, comes at maxed level, WA115 (8 DEX, 4 STR). I'm tempted to get that but it means rescrolling. Also, all the new equipment have special abilities like additional critical rates and what not, I'm not sure if I should invest in a Reverse as my end-game weapon now.

Advise?

[McAwesomesauce]

The wording of Pam's Song implies it's simply a White Scroll, so it wouldn't bring back an item slot.

And if you're feeling lucky, you can just use a Potential Scroll or an Advanced Potential Scroll to give your weapon those "special properties" like additional weapon attack, critical rates and boss damage. If you mean adding points to your skills, you shouldn't worry about that too much.

And yeah, finish scrolling that bitch.

[SeaWhorse]

Level 110 ranger

Helm: Ravana, 18 str 18 dex 17 int 19 luk. (4 dex 70 hp potential)
Earrings: Clean rose earrings(3% dex)
Overall: Red Arzuna, 6 str, 17 dex(3% dex, 5 dex)
Shoes: 10 dex, 17 jump, 6 speed pink whitebottoms(All stats +2, 2 luk, 10 w. def)
Cape: Pink Adventure Cape, 3 atk, 4 luk(4% luk, 50 mp, 2% w. def) I'm selling that btw :P
Belt: 5 str, 2 dex yellow belt(2% int, 2 luk)
Glove: 12 attack wg
Pendant: MoN(10 atk)
Bow: 11 speed, 123 atk shiner(6 atk potential)

I have about 220 mil right now to upgrade. I have max speed and jump, which I LOVE. So please don't suggest something that would ruin it :(

[Worthyness]

only thing i can say is:
weapon attack belt
scroll earrings
scroll helm
get higher attack cape

[Alilatias]

Hi guys. I'm looking to upgrade in preperation for Big Bang.

I'm in Windia, level 86, have 75 mil (I can probably push myself to 80-85 mil by selling a 3rd Visitor Dagger), and the following equips:

Bow: Maple Kandiva (91 ATK, 0 slots) - probably the one that needs to be upgraded the most
Glove: 6 ATK Work Glove
Helm: Ravana Helm (+18 to all, clean)
Cape: Maple Cape (3 DEX, 5 Jump, 5 Speed, and 3 slots)
Shoes: Level 80 shoes (7 DEX, clean)
Overall: Level 80 overall (3 STR, 18 DEX and 0 slots)
Earrings: Level 55 earrings (+2&#37; HP and +3 DEX, clean)
Belt: White Belt (+1 to all, clean)

Yeah, you guys can tell that I really need to upgrade. I can probably hunt for a DEX cape and a good potentialed Level 90 earring at Gobies. Other than that, I'm not sure what I can do with just 75 mil, what with potential pricing being all over the place and all. I did see a Level 75 Cape with 3% DEX/4 DEX/4 DEX in the FM for 42 mil earlier, but I had a feeling that it was a ripoff price, plus the plans to hunt for my own cape.

I also have a Vicious Hammer set to expire by the end of November (didn't log in for three weeks), along with a Potential scroll that I just found. I'm not sure what equips to use them on. I was considering Makering a Level 90 glove, using my Potential Scroll on it, then scrolling/hammering it if the potential scroll works, although some of you guys might have better ideas.

[Locked]

Bow: Maple Kandiva (91 ATK, 0 slots) - probably the one that needs to be upgraded the most
Glove: 6 ATK Work Glove
Helm: Ravana Helm (+18 to all, clean)
Cape: Maple Cape (3 DEX, 5 Jump, 5 Speed, and 3 slots)
Shoes: Level 80 shoes (7 DEX, clean)
Overall: Level 80 overall (3 STR, 18 DEX and 0 slots)
Earrings: Level 55 earrings (+2&#37; HP and +3 DEX, clean)
Belt: White Belt (+1 to all, clean)


1. How much STR do you have? (Total)
2. Which items are potential'd and what are their stats?
3. Hunt for Rex Earrings and potential them hoping them for 3-lines
4. Collect 3-4 rings if you haven't for the nice HP boost and stats, since they're so easy to make it doesn't require maximum funding and it's nice to have.

[Alilatias]

1. How much STR do you have? (Total)
2. Which items are potential'd and what are their stats?
3. Hunt for Rex Earrings and potential them hoping them for 3-lines
4. Collect 3-4 rings if you haven't for the nice HP boost and stats, since they're so easy to make it doesn't require maximum funding and it's nice to have.

1: 94 (or was it 92?) STR, 70 base.
2: Only the earrings are potentialed.
3: Yeah, sounds like a good idea. I've been trying to do that. I'm not too keen on risking blowing one up though, I care more about the +10&#37; HP boost than whatever stats come out of the potential scroll.
4: I already did. Crit ring + 3 Zombie Army rings.

[Mowlai]

Rolling a hunter after BB.
I'm not funded, as i have like 20mill as of now, but i do however, have like 50K NX to spend on MTS-stuff.

So i was wondering - to max leveling speed (and do more damage, you know, all that good stuff?) what should i blow it on, as i level?

I'm willing to wait a few levels in order to get an equip i could have for a longer lasting period. For instance, i'd rather get another glove that's better then a 10ATK WG at 50, rather than the WG at level 10. No rush there, so to speak. But being a newb i cant hold out for too long.

And please, feel free to tutor me and point out all my misstakes - although i'm a noob, i pick most things up pretty fast! :>

[MariaColette]

I'm somewhat at a loss as to what to work on... anyone got any suggestions?

15/19/15/14 clean Scar helm, 2 lines, no DEX potential - Rare

4 STR, 2 DEX, 9 slot untradeable tree branch nose - Unpotentialed (only level 10 anyway)

2 DEX, 0 slot, 4&#37; INT, 2 line goggles - Epic (I'd recube but saving for mage for now)

6% DEX, 3 line Rose earrings - Epic

9% DEX, 6% HP, 3 line Green Giles Cape - Unique

14 ATT, 9% DEX, 2 line Red Arcina - Unique

6 STR, 22 DEX, 3% DEX, 2 line Red Anes - Rare

7/7/7/7, 6% DEX, 3% All stat, +6 All stat, 3 line Last Visitor Belt - Epic

15 DEX, 18 Jump, 3% DEX, 3 line Dark Wing Boots - Rare

4 STR, 8 DEX, 156 ATT, +12 ATT, 2 line Reverse Engaw - Rare (Cubing this last unless others advise otherwise)

5/5/5/5 11 ATT Mark of Naricain

4/4/3/3 and 2/3/3/3 3rd Visitor Rings

Other two ring slots are simply Wedding and Crit ring.

Right now I currently have a 3 line clean Green Pria (6 DEX with 4 all stat potential, not that the potential matters), so with that in mind, my options are...

1. Get a 3 line Chaos Zakum Helmet
2. Scroll (with 60/100%s) and cube the Pria
3. Keep my current overall and cube it (it's 2 lines, so...)
4. Attempt to make a 3 line Arcina, get it to 14 ATT again and cube that
5. Cube my boots
6. Cube my bow to 30% Boss damage (obviously not gonna get that in 9 cubes)
7. Other???

#6 I'm wanting to aim for last, but I put that in there anyway. Suggestions are welcome. D:

[darksyte]

Class: ranger
Level: 100
Helm: 16/16/15/15 Zakum Helm 2% all stats 2% dex and like 4 str or something
Pendant: 1/2/1/1 Spiegalman working on obtaining a BF toe to finally get my dep star
Earrings: clean 3% dex 4 str holy cross'
Glove: lol7 attack WG
Bow: 117/2 3% dex Fire Arund
Cape: zenumist cape
Overall: 4 str 19 dex green pris
Shoes: 4 str 3 dex lvl 60 shoes
Mesos to spend: 150 mil + w/e items i manage to pawn off

[MuscleWizard]

So somebody gave me a 112att clean reverse black beauty for my birthday, unpotentialed.

I kind of want to potential it, but I heard that after chaos there's going to be a cash shop item that will prevent items from booming with potential/enhancement scrolls.
Should I wait until then?

[Locked]

So somebody gave me a 112att clean reverse black beauty for my birthday, unpotentialed.

I kind of want to potential it, but I heard that after chaos there's going to be a cash shop item that will prevent items from booming with potential/enhancement scrolls.
Should I wait until then?

I think it only applies to enhancements.

[raizoo]

First time posting in one of these threads because I actually have meso to play around with. :3Class: Crossbow Master
Level: 128
Helm: 17/15/15/15 Zakum Helm
Eye Acc: 3/3/3/3 Archaeologist Glasses, and yes they are the permanent ones.
Pendant: 5/5/5/5 11 w.atk MoN
Earrings: [borrowed] 11 and +4 to all stats Gold Emerald Earrings
Glove: [borrowed] 12 attack work gloves
Bow: 94 atk Maple Pyrope Crow sup, Str-less right now.
Cape: NO CAPE. :D
Overall: 10 str 2 dex 2% red Pria
Shoes: 5 dex Dark Wings
Skills I'm considering buying: MMB 20, Pierce 20. I have the 30 books for both of those already.
Mesos to spend: 250m in pure meso right now. I could probably get another 250m within the week.Keep in mind I'm playing on Zenith, so our prices are.... never stable. Everyday, it seems like prices are going up by 10%.

Anyway, I'm tempted to buy a Gen 2 lvl 17 ring because they're about 200m right now.

So, I'll have 47 Str altogether soon because I'm waiting on the 14-day medal. I'm able to borrow +10 Str cape and shoes, but I also have 2% Str earrings on a mule in case I need a bit more Str.

How did Nexon do the AP scroll reset event stuff? If it's like 20 Str, I don't mind getting about ~20 base Str at this point. o-o

[White]

I suppose the first question is how long are those borrowed items borrowed for?

I'd upgrade your cape and get MMB20. You have 200ish mil, I think the ring is also a good idea. The ring being the item that's most likely to inflate over time, so i'd get that first. Then MMB20, then a cape with some dex, maybe like a 2 atk 4 dex pac.

[raizoo]

No idea how long I'll be able to borrow. The friend that owns the earrings/gloves is having so much fun on her BaMa, lol. The cape/shoes could be for a while.

MMB 20 is so hard to find on this damn server. It's the thing I want most right now. -___-

I'll check how much those capes are though. Thanks. D:

Edit:
It sounds like she's letting me borrow the earrings/gloves for as long as I need them. :B

Edit2:
MMB 20 worked. Going to try and get an MMB 30 to work. >__<

Can't complain about only losing 90m from 2 important skill books compared to most other classes.

[raizoo]

Hi again, sorry for the double post. With Chaos right around the corner, I'm just wondering what I should get in order to increase my Str to equip a Neschere. I have 4 base Str and 65 Str altogether. Alliance has said that when I'm 160+, they wouldn't mind taking me on an HT run....
Class: Crossbow Master
Level: 153
Helm: 17/15/15/15 Zakum Helm
Eye Acc: 3/3/3/3 Archaeologist Glasses, and yes they are the permanent ones.
Pendant: 5/5/5/5 11 w.atk MoN
Earrings: [borrowed] 11 and +4 to all stats Gold Emerald Earrings
Glove: [borrowed] 12 attack work gloves
Bow: 94 atk Maple Pyrope Crow sup, Str-less right now.
Cape: NO CAPE. :D
Overall: 10 str 2 dex 2% red Pria
Shoes: 6 dex green arnah or something.
Skills I'm considering buying: Pierce 30 if all my 5 books fail me.
Mesos to spend: Nothing right now, but I'll be sure to grab some NX cards when I drop by the states again.I'm mostly asking because I'm not sure how common even the lvl 110 shoulderpads/belts and such are. I don't mind adding a bit into Str either since lol 999 cap.

Also yay for being a BP mule. =w=

[White]

Well, definitely get an htp. Just because your guild will take you on an ht run doesn't mean you can have the htp. After chaos, the htp is likely the only worthwhile item that ht will drop, so it will likely not just be given away.

If you can afford it, a czhelm would help a little bit as well. Scrolling a junk cape for str wouldn't cost all that much and you could probably get 6 str out of that.

[raizoo]

Looks like it's "organize a run and you can get one". Yay for being on a smaller server. Also yay for not getting hit with MTS to see all those hacked items.

It's czak and chtp I'm more concerned about. Looks like I really have to pump out damage since I can't Magic Crash. :V

[White]

Looks like it's "organize a run and you can get one". Yay for being on a smaller server. Also yay for not getting hit with MTS to see all those hacked items.

It's czak and chtp I'm more concerned about. Looks like I really have to pump out damage since I can't Magic Crash. :V

Yeah, that's pretty much how it works. Ranged is dps. Melee is crash and rush (when applicable).

[kyuukyuu]

Class: Bow Master
Level: 125
Helm: Average Zhelm
Pendant: Derp Star (MoN when available)
Earrings: 6% dex
Glove: 8atk 2dex
Bow: 124+10 Metus
Cape: 3% dex
Overall: 3% dex, +22 dex
Shoes: 4% sneakers -_-
Rings: Evo1/Evo2/Resistance/Angelic
Belt: +6 dex
Skills to buy: BE20 because I just failed it :[
Mesos to spend: ~550m

I'm thinking cape first as gloves and helms are pretty expensive to get %stat on, but I'm not really sure where to go after that.

[White]

With 500m, you can't really get much of an improvement as far as your cape is concerned. 6% is doable I suppose. I was thinking it would be a better idea to focus on skillbooks and get an htp. What server are you in?

[kyuukyuu]

I'm in Demethos D: Ghetto FM haha.

I have SE20+30, Hurri 20+30, and BE30 already, just missing BE20 right now, so I don't think skillbooks are a present worry, not until I'm 150+ and Jump is out anyway. HTP seems like a very expensive upgrade especially when it's outdamaged by a MoN without an awesome pot; is there any reason I should try for one? Other than how waiting on Nexon to fix something probably isn't the best idea, lol.

[CrazyForDex]

I have max mesos + 8 gm bow scrolls (I saw one in the Khaini fm sell for 650m~ and I bought them for 400-450, so let's say I have around 7bil to work with). My current bow is a 118 attack reverse engaw. My original plan was to get a von leon bow and use a 20% scroll, then 9 gm scrolls, but unfortunately, aggro got fixed and VLing is now more of a pain in the ass. Now I'm at the point where I am wondering if I should buy a bow, make a bow, or wait for a 140 bow D:

[White]

Well, waiting for a 140 bow seems like a bad idea IFF Empress is still unkillable after Ascension. I'd buy a nice vip bow and scroll it, or a VL bow. I can sell you tokens or, as it turns out I happen to have 5 tokens atm so, yeah hit me up on that. I'd be careful about those 20%'s and instead save the risk and save some cash and possibly blown up VL bows, and use that cash on cubing.

Personal experience: buy premade. That guy, next time you're on i'll give you the ign of a guy that has a good VIP bow, and Nessa might not have sold hers yet as well.

[MariaColette]

So currently I have a 142 att Engaw with 0 slots and 0 hammers used. It'll be 152 att if I can get hammers and one more GM bow scroll (already have one), 160 if I pass two AEEs (but I may just use one and save the rest for shielding wards because even at a 90% success rate, I am not willing to risk that).

So other than that, I also have at least 9% DEX on all but my helm, glasses, bow (all 0%), pendant (MoN) and face acc (lol level 10 branch, will replace with a mustache if I can stand to renew it every few days). I have no shoulder yet, currently working on Silent Crusade quests for that.

What options do I have for upgrades if I don't want to use cubes (or really, any NX at all)? HTP with %DEX, possibly? CHTP is far too pricey at the moment for me to even think about it.