Touhou project!

[Cardboardsnail]

Great series. Not just limited to "bullet hell" games
There's 2 fighting games too
There's also a huge amount of fan music, manga, art, and games.

Info here:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

Official website (Japanese):
http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/

Fansites:
http://www.doujinstyle.com/
http://www.gensokyo.org/
http://walfas.org/ (Run by KirbyM :D)

Random assortment of Youtube music vids (Actual ingame music. I'm not posting fan music here):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ETTk83qis0w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=P7dLp2Eb7cg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tX0PwiwvLnE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lY_KORpQPdI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4ssmxWJftyo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IKbKOC2QNgg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lVwstM4vZC8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VIop055eJhU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ul8UFl72KOY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TAy3nlATLkk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wN1BhwqX29w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4k6lVKllNYw

(there are lots more but I won't be posting them)

:)

[»-Chris->]

Damn, I clicked one video and I got rick rolled =[ I'll try it out later.

[wobbufet]

Gotta love this one <3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU

[Cardboardsnail]

:p

I put it there intentionally

[Tikey]

Stage 4 in Mountain of Faith pisses me off. I can never get past it without dying, even though I've pretty much mastered the other 3 stages. xD

EDIT: Finally got past Stage 4 today. Only used 1 bomb and died once on the boss. That's pretty good for going against all of her spell cards for the first time.

[Yoorah]

Holy crap, I didn't think these games would have so much of a following. o_o' I discovered Perfect Cherry Blossom through a blog about Japanese things, so I downloaded the demo and loved it. I made my avatar out of a screenshot from that game. :P I even hax translated the config program for that game, 'cause the Japanese text annoyed me.

[Saver]

Holy crap, I didn't think these games would have so much of a following. o_o' I discovered Perfect Cherry Blossom through a blog about Japanese things, so I downloaded the demo and loved it. I made my avatar out of a screenshot from that game. :P I even hax translated the config program for that game, 'cause the Japanese text annoyed me.

I just played that game about 3 weeks ago. I just downloaded it with the english patch :D.

Just as you used a picture from there to use for your avatar, I used the final boss' picture, took out the background, and used it for my sw post background.
Kind of forgot to remove the smaller umbrella at the top =x.
Also can't take out the text box =[.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5091/translunaphotoshop288qb6.png

[Yoorah]

Haha, it's nice to see someone with a similar taste in, erm, making graphics for use on forums. xp

I just dug in my avatars folder, and found this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/Agent_K64/avatars/yoorahtouhouavatars.png
I basically screencapped various character expressions in-game, for potential use as avatars later on. The file above is time stamped as last modified on December 6, 2005, 1:54:03 PM. I had no idea that my current avatar was almost 3 years old. I also feel like an old Touhou fan now. >.>

[Tikey]

Ahh! Finally, after hours of seeing deaths, I've finally beat Stage 6 on Mountain of Faith. xD Holy crap that boss is hard.

[Saver]

I tried and tried, but I can't figure it out.

How the hell do you make replays into a video format to be able to put on youtube ._.?
I heard fraps, but when I record, the FPS goes to 10-15.

Suggestions?

[Eldin]

Kyah. I fail so hard at these games - I can't even beat Imperishable Night on easy :f4:;; and I lost my Perfect Cherry Blossom copy, which I also couldn't beat. The card-throwing boss (... drawing a total blank name-wise here) drains at least 3 lives each time I fight her, then I die on the next level.

But they're good practice for character recognition, heh - I've improved by a bit on my hiragana just by trying to sound out the dialogue before it vanishes.

And I use the aforementioned fraps whenever I want to record something - the framerate loss doesn't kill you, so it just makes you stronger, yes? :3

[Cardboardsnail]

I tried and tried, but I can't figure it out.

How the hell do you make replays into a video format to be able to put on youtube ._.?
I heard fraps, but when I record, the FPS goes to 10-15.

Suggestions?


Record a replay?

[acev]

There are other recording methods other than fraps. If you don't like the slow gameplay you can find another recorder.

Touhou, I'd have to say is a fun series for me when I feel like bullet hell games. I have a couple of them on my computer, and play them occasionally. Haven't beat any on hard, but easy and medium I have actually beat some.

Yeah, I'm not the best at these type of games =P

[Cardboardsnail]

omfg stage 4 of MoF is so hard

[Hypermug]

stage 4 is Aya's stage right. Fun fun
I've beaten PCB, Imperishable Night, and MoF on hard without using a continue, and the best I've done on PCB is getting to Ran but I always die on her 2nd spell card I think >_>

I like PCB the most, followed by Scarlet weather rhapsody. My favorite characters are Yukari, Patchouli, Youmu, and Yuyuko <_>

[Cardboardsnail]

stage 4 is Aya's stage right. Fun fun
I've beaten PCB, Imperishable Night, and MoF on hard without using a continue, and the best I've done on PCB is getting to Ran but I always die on her 2nd spell card I think >_>

I like PCB the most, followed by Scarlet weather rhapsody. My favorite characters are Yukari, Patchouli, Youmu, and Yuyuko <_>

I've only beaten PCB on hard without continues

EoSD... Remilia is so hard ._.
MoF is just ridiculous to beat without continues on hard :f3: (for me at least)
I haven't gotten around to playing Imperishable yet

[Tikey]

I finally got to Stage 6 on Hard in MoF. The bosses aren't that hard once you get used to the pattern, but the stages are killer. >.<

[MechMike]

I do not understand how one can play or even beat this game without beating the shit out of their computer.

[Cardboardsnail]

I do not understand how one can play or even beat this game without beating the shit out of their computer.

There are harder games out there (Such as "I wanna be the Guy")

[belovedblood]

Just got PCB to try out the touhou games for the first time. It's hard as hell, but I love it! I recommend it for anyone who wants a challenge

[Cardboardsnail]

Shoot the bullet...HARD

._.

I can't even beat all of Keine's spells

[Tikey]

Finally beat extra stage on Imperishable Night. By far the funnest stages to play on. I'll upload a vid once I find a decent recorder.

[Hypermug]

What the hell. Got to stage 6 in Touhou 11 and the last boss raped all of my lives with her ATOMIC BOOM crap. Probably my fault for making things harder by playing Reimu c but I told a friend I was going to beat it with her without continuing so yah.

so very pissed.

[raizoo]

If you can do it with Reimu C, I CAN DO IT WIT- pomegranate, I really don't like any of Reimu's things. I keep switching between A and B before going fak diz and using Marisa C. Argh, I DON'T LIKE REIMU'S ATTACKS.

And I like using windowed mode, but I keep lagging when there's a lot of bullets on the screen making me blargh more.

Still, the music is nice and the loli in a bucket never ceases to amuse me.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y263/raizoo/9c1c8ec6.jpg
So I finally got Mug to torrent something. Awesome. Let's grab you those other Touhou games since doujinstyle is slow.

[Tikey]

What the hell. Got to stage 6 in Touhou 11 and the last boss raped all of my lives with her ATOMIC BOOM crap. Probably my fault for making things harder by playing Reimu c but I told a friend I was going to beat it with her without continuing so yah.

so very pissed.

Rawr, finally SA is out. What's stage 4-6 like?

[Hypermug]

Rawr, finally SA is out. What's stage 4-6 like?

On Normal, pretty cruel :|

Jean you owe me like a week's worth of donuts if I beat this with Reimu c!

[raizoo]

On Normal, pretty cruel :|

Jean you owe me like a week's worth of donuts if I beat this with Reimu c!
fak u Mug, I'm having so much difficulty getting past the oni loli with the cup of sake on normal, lmao. WHY MUST I FAIL! WHAT KIND OF ASIAN AM I!

Come to Canada and I'll give you a donut a day@@@@@@@@

I think I'm sticking with Reimu B. Those flame things are pretty and I'm shallow. I got to beat Easy on the first try with her when I got serious and that nuclear powered loli made me lol.

[Hypermug]

fak u Mug, I'm having so much difficulty getting past the oni loli with the cup of sake on normal, lmao. WHY MUST I FAIL! WHAT KIND OF ASIAN AM I!

Come to Canada and I'll give you a donut a day@@@@@@@@

I think I'm sticking with Reimu B. Those flame things are pretty and I'm shallow. I got to beat Easy on the first try with her when I got serious and that nuclear powered loli made me lol.

Don't give up!

[Tikey]

Does anyone have a download link for Subterranean Animism that isn't DoujinStyle?

[Cardboardsnail]

Look for a torrent?

[Tikey]

I'm trying. Demonoid is the only site that has seeders for the torrent, but I can't download it because you have to register... and registrations are closed x.x. All the others have 0 seeders.

[Volg]

Starting on the touhou games today, fun, fun. -plays on lunatic- -quits forever- hawhawhaw, fun stuff, though.

[raizoo]

Whenever you need something in Japanese, it's always good to check out Tokyo Toshokan first. (http://www.tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=152912)


Don't give up!
yeuhm, I usually play Touhou after reading some Umineko, but Umineko is scaring me so I get all OSHT WTF when I Touhou because now I'm partially afraid of butterflies and goat heads and I keep hearing Beatrice laughing in my ears.

MAN, SCREW TOUHOU, I'M GOING BACK TO MAGICAL BATTLE ARENA. STARLIGHT BREAKER > MASTER SPARK, kkthnx.

And on another Touhou related side note, wasn't that Touhou fan made anime supposed to come out this C74, which just finished?

[Cardboardsnail]

Get Down.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mX-GmFF1lgE

[Arroz]

Get Down.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=mX-GmFF1lgE

I have no clue what the hell this thread is about but that made my day

[Tikey]

Sorry for extreme necro posting, but I've uploaded two videos of me clearing Extra Stage on Imperishable Night (Touhou 8).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H8ut97T4kM&feature=channel_page (Marisa/Alice)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFakN3hSqEQ&feature=channel_page (Youmu/Yuyuko)

[FelixTM]

Sorry for extreme necro posting, but I've uploaded two videos of me clearing Extra Stage on Imperishable Night (Touhou 8).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H8ut97T4kM&feature=channel_page (Marisa/Alice)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFakN3hSqEQ&feature=channel_page (Youmu/Yuyuko)

Very nice.

Rock on! Imperishable Night is my favorite Touhou danmaku. It's so the best.

[Tikey]

Another necro post! Gotta keep the Touhou news flowing as it isn't dead yet!

The demo to Touhou 12 was released earlier last month. "Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object" is the full name.

[xBTAx]

My friend got me to play Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

I like it. It's hard, confusing, and odd, but I like it.

[Dusk]

My friend got me to play Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

I like it. It's hard, confusing, and odd, but I like it.

The lack of information in English about that game makes it very difficult to understand. The non-danmaku Touhou games are as visually and musically appealing as the danmaku, but they're pretty gimmicky, really. Not nearly as fun.

I haven't played any Touhou recently, I should check out UFO...IN is also my favorite to date, though MoF is pretty awesome too. It's the only one I've played that I can't beat on Normal at least, though >:O

[xBTAx]

I found a wiki for it, which was nice. Just that I'm not really good at fighting games, so I was basically spamming Marisa's left+C beam thingy. XD

[Spaz]

(bump)

So, I've started playing Touhou games. I started with Embodiment of Scarlet Devil. It owned me pretty hard at first, but I was able to beat it on easy (but not without continues). Then I googled trying to figure out which one is the easiest and Imperishable Night seemed to be the concensus. I can easily beat IN on easy without continuing, but can't make it to the end on Normal. I came back to EoSD today and didn't have too much trouble clearing easy mode without continuing.

I love using Reimu+Yukari in IN. Homing bullets, smaller hitbox, longer grace period to use a last spell, and the last spell is awesome. I hate wasting bombs by dying before I can use them.

Any suggestions for the next one I try?

[FelixTM]

Imperishable Night is my favorite. It's the only one I can beat on Hard modo. Perfect Cherry Blossom is almost just as fun. It's a close second for me. Avoid Mountain of Faith and definitely Subterranean Animism unless you like punishing yourself. MoF I can't handle on Normal, and SA I (honestly) can't even beat on Easy.

[Lozmaster]

^Subterranean animism is definatly the hardest of the games, by far. I've beaten it no continues on easy but normal I've not yet passed stage 4 {I don't continue :P}. I didn't think mountain of faith was that bad [it was the 2nd game I actually unlocked extra mode on]. But ya Subterranean on normal is = to at least a very hard-hard mode in the other games, and easy is probably ~ the same as most of the normal modes.

Never really played imperishable night because it doesn't work well with the controller I use, the characters keep moving until I press another direction, that doesn't go down so well.

[Spaz]

Perfect Cherry Blossom is hard! Took me 2 continues and a lot of bombing to clear Easy.

[Dusk]

Perfect Cherry Blossom is hard! Took me 2 continues and a lot of bombing to clear Easy.

PCB is one of the easiest games xD They keep getting harder. UFO is supposed to be the hardest yet. Not that Easy was well, easy in the first place for someone new to the games.

I can beat Easy on all of them just fine. Normal means quite a bit of bombing for me on Imperishable Night, and it's just downright impossible for me on MoF.

[Lozmaster]

PCB is one of the easiest games xD They keep getting harder. UFO is supposed to be the hardest yet. Not that Easy was well, easy in the first place for someone new to the games.

I can beat Easy on all of them just fine. Normal means quite a bit of bombing for me on Imperishable Night, and it's just downright impossible for me on MoF.

Judging from the UFO demo, it's probably not going to be as bad as SA, for the simple fact you can abuse the UFO system for an asston of extra life pieces.

[Tikey]

Judging from the UFO demo, it's probably not going to be as bad as SA, for the simple fact you can abuse the UFO system for an asston of extra life pieces.

Though you can abuse the UFOs, there is quite a difficulty jump going from Normal to Hard.

On another note, I just got to Stage 5 on Hard modo with no continues on SA. To simply put it, Orin needs to die.

[TKWizard]

UFO full coming out in approximately 2 weeks time. Can't wait.

Also TH 12.3 is coming out.

[Tikey]

UFO full coming out in approximately 2 weeks time. Can't wait.

Also TH 12.3 is coming out.

Yeah, sadly 12.3 is another fighting game. :s

[TKWizard]

http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200908/13/42/e0088742_10292832.jpg

Is that who I think it is?

YUMEMI!!!?!

LETS FIND OUT IN 18 hours!

[EarthAdept2]

How can you tell that's Yumemi? I don't see a cross or anything. Curvy hair, two piece cloak...can really be anyone lol.


Yeah, sadly 12.3 is another fighting game. :s

Well 12.3 is supposed to be an expansion on swr, why wouldn't it be a fighting game? It's made by the same company too. No weather option plz.

Mass hype gonna be on the imageboards like that maikaze anime release. Touhou castlevania game, mystical chain, cirno racing. So much good stuff this comiket :heart:

(oh is there any word that ep2 was gonna get released this C76?)

[Tikey]

Argh! The wait is killing me...

... How about some Touhou Soccer? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcAK7SPgRI&feature=related

[TKWizard]

Lol Tikey

I beat that entire game except the campaign mode where you can unlock VIVIT..

If you want a copy of it, I guess I could try finding a link for you.

[EarthAdept2]

Official Roster for Touhou 12.3!

alice
aya
chirno
iku
komachi
marisa
meirin
patchouli
reimu
remilia
sakuya
sanae
suika
suwako
tenshi
udonge
utsuho
youmu
yukari
yuyuko

Lol patch for a game right when it's released.

[Tikey]

Mmm... 12:29 PM right now in Tokyo, so day 2 should already be in full swing. How long do you guys think it'll take for the downloads to appear? :o

[TKWizard]

Give it another 3-4 hrs..

[Shidoshi]

There are harder games out there (Such as "I wanna be the Guy")

This man doesn't know what he's talking. IWBTG is not THAT hard, I fail much more on touhou games than on IWBTG (though i have yet to pass the motherbrain =P).

[Tikey]

Touhou 12 is out! PM me if you want the download link. Still waiting on 12.3.

[EarthAdept2]

Torrent is real? I didn't see a confirmation yet.

[Tikey]

Torrent is real? I didn't see a confirmation yet.

Hold on, I'll post some stuff up in a bit (still hasn't finished downloading; 6 seeders, 888 leechers... lol).

[FelixTM]

Fingers crossed on being legit. Waiting for one confirmation before I attack it with full force.

[EarthAdept2]

If you mean screenies, i've seen them but that doesn't mean the torrent is real lol. Unless you're posting something about the torrent itself.

Though I've seen a few posts elsewhere that implies that the link is indeed real. So how's the download time? `-`

(You know, are we even allowed talking about this?)

[FelixTM]

If you mean screenies, i've seen them but that doesn't mean the torrent is real lol. Unless you're posting something about the torrent itself.

Though I've seen a few posts elsewhere that implies that the link is indeed real. So how's the download time? `-`

(You know, are we even allowed talking about this?)

Screw the rules, we're talking about Touhou!

Does seem to be pretty legit from everything I've seen. COME ON, FASTER. I didn't plan on playing tonight, but suddenly I'm realizing how awesome that would be.

[EarthAdept2]

CONFIRMED. Gogo!

[Tikey]

Nabbed two screenshots of the stage 4 boss.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/Mega_Tikey/Pictures/th122009-08-1500-54-16-90.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/Mega_Tikey/Pictures/th122009-08-1500-54-23-90.jpg

Several changes in the game:
- Mid/end-bosses drop life pieces when they're defeated.
- Stage 2 and 3 were toned down (seen from Normal)
- Ichirin's non-spell cards seem shorter.
- Ichirin's last spell card is faster (seen from Normal)

Currently stumbling through stage 4. There's lots of danmaku flying around and the stage is unusually long.

EDIT: Stage 5 screenies.

I would have to say UFO's stage 5 is harder than up there with SA's stage 5. Though the stage seems easy, the spell cards are freaking BS. D:. And wtp @ twisting lasers!!! D:


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/Mega_Tikey/Pictures/th122009-08-1501-13-14-81.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/Mega_Tikey/Pictures/th122009-08-1501-14-27-41.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/Mega_Tikey/Pictures/th122009-08-1501-15-47-30.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c58/Mega_Tikey/Pictures/th122009-08-1501-16-00-71.jpg

[EarthAdept2]

Well I just went through easy modo (it's 5 in the morning, I do not have the concentration to go through normal). Nazrin's laser spell on stage 5 is so much bs. Completely random bullets.

Curvy lasers D:!

I'll play through normal tomorrow X_x; I also need to listen to the music.

Hopefully 12.3 will be there when I wake up.

[TKWizard]

Its definitely out. Doujinstyle is very unstable right now.

-edit- Touhouwiki updated.



Stage 6 boss - Byakuren Hiziri http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/touhou/images/2/27/Byakuren.png

Extra stage boss - Nue Houjuu http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/touhou/images/1/1c/Nue.png

BOOOOOO! NO PC-98 CHARS MAKE A RETURN!

Also, whats up with teh black theme? The final boss looks sooooo goth.

[FelixTM]

The UFO system is...weird. Not sure if I like it. I'm doing so terrible... Been a while since I've played any Touhou besides SWR. Eyes keep bugging out. lol Had to continue multiple times to get through Easy on my first go.

Sigh... I'm liking this better than SA, at least. That one really turned me off of the danmaku.

I can't wait to get the soundtrack to add it to my collection. Best part of Touhou for me is the music.

[TKWizard]

God I suck..

Already died a ton even on Ea-ji modo.. I guess I am an elementary school kid even though i'm 24 >_>.

[Lozmaster]

Dang, doujin style won't load for me. If anyone happens to have the torrent url and/or download url and wants to sneakily give me it, I love you long time<3

[FelixTM]

Dang, doujin style won't load for me. If anyone happens to have the torrent url and/or download url and wants to sneakily give me it, I love you long time<3

Just go type in "Touhou 12" on TokyoTosho... lol Can't get any easier modo than that.

I HID IT SO IT'S OKAY NOW.

[Lozmaster]

Never heard of that site before, well thanks a lot,:heart:

[TKWizard]

WOw, Doujinstyle just got suspended. I guess the only source now is tokyotosho

-edit- TouhouVania, aka 紅魔城伝説 スカーレット・シンフォニー ～緋色の交響曲～ is out. Its a Castlevania/Touhou mixup game :D

-edit2- Videos are out.. THE FINAL BOSS OF THIS GAME HAS A REMILIA TYPE OPENING AND HAS SHINKI TYPE SPELL CARDS!!! iasgdlfkjGHSAfj;skujagbksd
HOT SECKS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Qh2ct-2C4

[Zaotsu]

I don't remember sucking this badly at Touhou games. Havent played in ages but still...

What's the new girl's name?Sanae's form A is decent, though I think I'm gonna stick with Marisa A for once.

I'm still not quite sure about the whole UFO thing... Seems kinda odd, but it does make getting extra lives easier. Like that they made the stars huge instead of relatively small like in SA.

[EarthAdept2]

Wow they reall upped up the AI in 12.3. Normal feels like the swr lunatic actually lol.

EDIT: nvm forgot to patch lol.
12.3 final boss with meiling:

LOL CATFISH, don't time out the last attack! He explodes and you have to start over D:!

[FelixTM]

Unthinkable Natural Law = AWESOME. Oh how I missed playing SWR. Got through Easy without continuing my first try, even though I'm really rusty. I failed to capture Suwako's final spell card, though. ;_; I was SO close too.

Gotta go play through Story with that BAKA now!

[TKWizard]

Holy crap at the extra mode boss of TH12.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR4jiVdL78o

[EarthAdept2]

Utsuho is BROKEN! D: Okuu for top tier. Inb4patch

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm274/cobaph/gigaflare.jpg

[Zaotsu]

YAY I 1CC'D EASY

Yeah I know I'm noob. I don't care. UFO is definitely easier than SubA and MoF, with how absurdly easy it is to gain extra lives.

[TKWizard]

TH12 mp3 rips are out.

http://kaorin.pestermom.com/seirensen.7z

[FelixTM]

LOL CATFISH, don't time out the last attack! He explodes and you have to start over D:!

Finally went back and did the baka's and Meiling's Story. That final boss was so awesome. LOL That has to be the dumbest and most hilarious boss in all of Touhou. One of his spell cards was really raping me, and his finale KO'd me before it even timed out. I'd really like to fight him with someone OTHER than Meiling. I suck hardcore with her.

Great fun, though. Loving UNL. It's awesome destroying Arcade with Utsuho (she's so pretty in UNL! I'm in love all over again!).

[EarthAdept2]

Eh, 12's soundtrack isn't as good as I thought it'd be. Only new song I took a liking was stage 5 and the boss (somewhat). And 12.3 doesn't really have a lot of good songs either, though they brought back Voile Library song from IaMP <3

At least UFO is a lot more easy than SA. I only spent one day to beat normal (not 1cc) `-`.

Slightly offtopic: Lol I found a mention for TKWizard on LuizPrower's LP for touhouvania.

[Tikey]

About to upload my video of stage 5 and all of it's BSing glory. Though, it isn't really that hard once you know where everything is.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v2nE09y0aQ

[xBTAx]

Umm... If I were to pick one of the games to play, considering I'm pretty bad at this type of game, what game should I start with? :ohno:

[FelixTM]

Umm... If I were to pick one of the games to play, considering I'm pretty bad at this type of game, what game should I start with? :ohno:

Imperishable Night or Perfect Cherry Blossom.

[Zaotsu]

Umm... If I were to pick one of the games to play, considering I'm pretty bad at this type of game, what game should I start with? :ohno:

Like Felix said, Imperishable Night (ImNi) or Perfect Cherry Blossom (PCB) are your best bets. Stay the fuck away from Subterranean Animism (SubA) and Mountain of Faith (MoF). Just go through on easy and you should still do fairly well.

[xBTAx]

Alright, thanks. I'll start with Imperishable Night, then. :f2:

[Dusk]

Holy fuck guys I need a new computer, I lag while playing 12 and I can't dodge for shit.

Looks pretty awesome though. I wish I could get past the 3rd stage >_>

[Tikey]

Alright, thanks. I'll start with Imperishable Night, then. :f2:

While we're at it, also stay away from UFO. Stages 4-6 will frustrate you to hell if you're not good, even on Normal.

[FelixTM]

While we're at it, also stay away from UFO. Stages 4-6 will frustrate you to hell if you're not good, even on Normal.

Stage 5.

I've been stressed all day because of it.

[Tikey]

Stage 5.

I've been stressed all day because of it.

Just curious, what character are you using? From what I've seen, concentrated shot types (ReimuA and MarisaA) are at a high disadvantage mainly because you're too busy moving around to focus on the target, which means an increased amount of danmaku on the screen.

[FelixTM]

Just curious, what character are you using? From what I've seen, concentrated shot types (ReimuA and MarisaA) are at a high disadvantage mainly because you're too busy moving around to focus on the target, which means an increased amount of danmaku on the screen.

I was using ReimuA today.

Ended up giving up after a few continues. Never made it to stage 6 with her. Annoyed me, so I took a nap instead of doing anything. I hate playing Touhou for too long at a time.

Another thing I really hate about UFO is the overload of powerups and crap. It's so bad I have trouble seeing sometimes. That's retarded. One stage (4 I think), I just stopped attacking completely and purely dodged stuff until the boss. Made it way easier.

[TKWizard]

Eh, 12's soundtrack isn't as good as I thought it'd be. Only new song I took a liking was stage 5 and the boss (somewhat). And 12.3 doesn't really have a lot of good songs either, though they brought back Voile Library song from IaMP <3

At least UFO is a lot more easy than SA. I only spent one day to beat normal (not 1cc) `-`.

Slightly offtopic: Lol I found a mention for TKWizard on LuizPrower's LP for touhouvania.

Yep, I provided him the patched version of that game.

[CourageLess]

Uhmm, I'm playing PCB for a start and there isn't any stage 4-6 for mine .
Am I supposed to do something to be able to play stage 4-6? :goggle:

[TKWizard]

You probably got the demo version.

[CourageLess]

Oh I see, thanks .
Any link for me to download the actual version? =/
I can't read the words on the official site so I google for the game which I have now o:

[TKWizard]

Edit by Zaotsu: Don't post direct links to stuff here.

A quick search on Doujinstyle. You should check that site often.

[CourageLess]

Ah okay thanks .
By the way, do I have to register for an account to view the contents in the forum?
Edit : At the same time, I'd like to ask for a website to download other games like PCB o:

[TKWizard]

You can get all the games at Doujinstyle, and yes, you need to register for an account.

AND WHERE IS 東方年柄年中 (New IOSYS album)

[CourageLess]

Okay thanks loads .
I'll try out the older versions before playing the latest one :f2:

[Zaotsu]

Ok people. I'd say its fine to talk about where you can find it, but don't actually post direct links to files or torrents here.

[EarthAdept2]

PCB had like the hardest easy mode ever >_<. IN is no doubt the absolute easiest + the really long deathbomb. MoF isn't that hard if you spam bombs as well I think. That and post PCB there's an autocollect line regardless if you're full power or not.

[Dusk]

MY GOD.

Why did they have to take out death-bombing? ;_; This game is so much more fast-paced than 7 or 8. Usually in Imperishable Night I could see patterns forming a while before they got to me and I would only bomb if I was really pineappleed over and trapped in a mess I couldn't get out of. In this game pomegranate lines up before I'm even considering bombing. I never even get a chance to bomb.

Not to mention the UFO system is more trouble than it's worth; I have a lot of almost-deaths as I try to nab UFOs and they force me into weird corners of the screen as I try to avoid certain colors :(

Hard game. Hard hard game. Still can't beat stage 3 on Normal.


PCB had like the hardest easy mode ever >_<. IN is no doubt the absolute easiest + the really long deathbomb. MoF isn't that hard if you spam bombs as well I think. That and post PCB there's an autocollect line regardless if you're full power or not.

That's post-IN, IN only had full-time autocollect for Marisa, I think it was. MoF lets you spam bombs, but it also directly links bombs to your power, so bombing is really forced and crippling if you use too many bombs before you reach the boss.

[Lozmaster]

MY GOD.

Why did they have to take out death-bombing? ;_; This game is so much more fast-paced than 7 or 8.

They didn't. I've used it a bunch of times.


This game is so much more fast-paced than 7 or 8.
But not faster than 10, and I'd say easier than 11.:f1: I've got up to the 6th stage boss without continuing so far on normal, I could probably get extra mode soon. Not that i'd be able to finish it.

[TKWizard]

Just to let you know if you guys like the Touhou IOSYS Albums, 東方年柄年中 is out now.

[Dusk]

They didn't. I've used it a bunch of times.


But not faster than 10, and I'd say easier than 11.:f1: I've got up to the 6th stage boss without continuing so far on normal, I could probably get extra mode soon. Not that i'd be able to finish it.

Oh, after playing it a couple more times I realized that I can use it, but you basically have to bomb the instant you get hit, unlike 8 where you'd flash momentarily.

[FelixTM]

Oh, after playing it a couple more times I realized that I can use it, but you basically have to bomb the instant you get hit, unlike 8 where you'd flash momentarily.

Yeah, that's the border between life and death. It's becoming increasingly harder to use... I've never successfully cast a last spell in UFO, so I always just bomb in advance.

[EarthAdept2]

IN had the longest deathbomb frame compared to all the other window games which makes it incredibly easy at times (you can probably rely completely on reflex to deathbomb). People say bombing makes MoF easy due to how many power items the enemies and bosses give.

Deathbomb frame is like 1/8th of a second (aside from IN) I believe so you probably shouldn't rely on your reflexes. But rather bomb when you have a feeling you're about to die.

UFO is so unforgiving if you die ;-;, losing 1.00 and only giving back 0.07.

[Tikey]

Just 1cc'd Normal with MarisaA. God, that last spell was scary with a concentrated type. Beat it with no lives and one bomb remaining. D:

[Dusk]

IN had the longest deathbomb frame compared to all the other window games which makes it incredibly easy at times (you can probably rely completely on reflex to deathbomb). People say bombing makes MoF easy due to how many power items the enemies and bosses give.

Deathbomb frame is like 1/8th of a second (aside from IN) I believe so you probably shouldn't rely on your reflexes. But rather bomb when you have a feeling you're about to die.

UFO is so unforgiving if you die ;-;, losing 1.00 and only giving back 0.07.

IN's the game I've played the most, so that's probably why I'm not used to this. I'm not very good at judging when I'm about to die; I always want to make it through the spell without bombing, but I always end up getting hit by something dumb.

[Kurokodairu]

Just curious, what difficulty does everyone play on? (I like to start off on hard)

[Tikey]

I usually go through Normal first to unlock everything (music + Extra), then I move on to Hard. I stay away from Lunatic. xD

[Zaotsu]

Just curious, what difficulty does everyone play on? (I like to start off on hard)

... Easy. I'm lower than a grade-schooler when it comes to Touhou. I think the only one I've ever done fairly well on was ImNi. I start with Easy, struggle through Normal <_<

[Dusk]

I always play on Normal. I got into the games with Easy mode on IN but I feel kind of lame doing it now. You learn more by playing on Normal or harder anyway, because on Easy you don't really need the same techniques and most of the time you can just kind of fumble your way through. If I'm feeling really freaking frustrated I'll try on Easy but I usually stick to Normal. I do some Hard/Lunatic Spell Practice on IN but not this game, no sir.

[FelixTM]

I always play through on Easy first, and then I try beating Normal (which sometimes doesn't happen).

[Tikey]

Oh look, stage 5 and 6 on lunatic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJWb9gbG0Y&feature=channel_page

[Dusk]

Hm, I beat Stage 3 on Easy (it's really easy >_>) and the game ended right there. Is that supposed to happen, or do I have a demo version or something?

I still have issues with bombing. I press the button and nothing happens. I seem to get 1-2 bombs per game and lose the rest of my 5-6 lives pretty ungracefully. Could've beat Normal Stage 3 by now, but I keep losing lives while I'm trying to bomb.

[TKWizard]

Which Touhou game? You can get all the full versions at Doujinstyle.

[EarthAdept2]

All full version games should be 1.00 or higher, if you have something that's like 0.01 or something that's a trial.

[Tikey]

Ugh, I swear Hiziri's last spell card is impossible to capture. :( Uploading video of stage 6 on normal.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agW26LjVtwQ

[Dusk]

Oh snap, I do have the trial version. Going back to Doujinstyle then.

[EarthAdept2]

So mystical chain just came out :D Though I don't think a lot of you guys would know that game.

So here's a demo vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6NRHcd4ysQ

That is lunatic if you don't notice the title (chapter 2 of 5). Although the vid makes it look a bit repetitive, it's not as easy as it looks. This is just the boss fight of the chapter, there is usually 4 stages prior to the boss with regular enemies. The game is pretty hard even on easy mode >_<

Now to wait for cirno racing.

EDIT: A good look on touhou in general in this article. http://www.cracked.com/funny-1750-touhou/ Made me chuckle.

[Tikey]

I got to Hiziri today on Hard and promptly died on her last spell card... took about 3 hours. I don't know what ZUN was thinking, but Hard is pretty much identical to Lunatic in UFO. D:

EDIT: dkjsbf;efkbj - I got a good replay of Stage 5 on Hard (and by good I mean the only spell cards I passed were Syou's spinning lasers of death and her danmaku maze), and I beat Extra Stage! :D

[Radius-86]

Absurdly long patch times are the best times to play Touhou lol.

[Tikey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo3FByD1oW4 (Stage 5 hard with Reimu B)

I'll upload my Extra Stage run (both Reimu B and Marisa A) later.

[Tikey]

Dare I necropost?!

Uploaded a video of Stage 6 on Hard with Reimu B. Definitely a step up from Normal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze2D6UYvnec

[Hypermug]

Hey Tikey, what do you use to record your videos?

[z0mgc00k13]

after my sister watched me play it she sed the bosses had OCD...

[Tikey]

Hey Tikey, what do you use to record your videos?

I use Fraps.

[Tikey]

Ah hah! My first ever Lunatic video is up. This is stage 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntecx5h2QRk

[Tikey]

Trying to keep the fire alive. Anyways, just uploaded my best Extra Stage run using Reimu A. Out of 13 spell cards, I only missed 1.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sskz9v9uM7U
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgnZlw1aBhQ

[Jormungandr]

I like both the fighting games lol. I would suck so badly at the shooter.

[Tikey]

Needs more Touhou up in here. Just finished a MoF stage 6 lunatic run after ripping my hair out.

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I've also been unlocking some last word spell cards on my copy of Imperishable Night.

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[Zephyr]

wow... touhou thread on SP and i didn't see it? hell i've missed alot!

Are the fighting games worth getting? i have games from 1 to 12, including shoot the bullet... i just suck at it... and i still can't get extra on EoSD... stupid remilia kills my last life with her last spell card...

also...

hai guys look what i can do:

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[DarkestTempest]

wow... touhou thread on SP and i didn't see it? hell i've missed alot!

Are the fighting games worth getting? i have games from 1 to 12, including shoot the bullet... i just suck at it... and i still can't get extra on EoSD... stupid remilia kills my last life with her last spell card...

also...

hai guys look what i can do:



Why is the music so low in pitch in your videos? o_O

Anyways... wow, I didn't realize there's a Touhou thread here. That's pretty cool.

Sadly, I'm not very good at the games yet. This is the best I can do:

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[EarthAdept2]

Touhou 12.3 patch 1.10 is now out

http://tasofro.net/touhou123/download.html

Many attack changes were made to a variety of characters and some even got new spellcards. Have fun exploring all the new changes!

[z0mgc00k13]

-snip-

i love the new patch :D
alice got atlot better :D

[EarthAdept2]

Wat lol

People mostly thought she was nerfed o_O

What changes made her better?

[z0mgc00k13]

Wat lol

People mostly thought she was nerfed o_O

What changes made her better?

she got better in my opinion :3
i like that SP doll now uses the C dolls and how Archer Dolls seems to shoot more arrows
tho im sad about B bullets dont go as far anymore

i havent tried out toher skill cards or spell and im still knida bad at...controls...

EDIT: bullets ar eshinier :3

[KaidaTan]

Many attack changes were made to a variety of characters and some even got new spellcards. Have fun exploring all the new changes!
Can you list or PM me the changes? I don't have access to mizuumi, so I don't really know how I could find out other than asking.

[BDRyan]

Can you list or PM me the changes? I don't have access to mizuumi, so I don't really know how I could find out other than asking.

As far as I can see, I don't actually see the changelog for 1.10 on mizuumi.

[KaidaTan]

As far as I can see, I don't actually see the changelog for 1.10 on mizuumi.
Oh... well then does anyone know?

As I play Reimu, I immediately noticed her teleport is red and her purple seals (236c with skillcard) hit multiple times. Gonna go test Fantasy Heaven for the lols.

[BDRyan]

That reminds me, a friend of mine helped me test a few cards when 12.3 first came out. Here's one (http://users.bdryan.org/bdryan/video/Reimu_FatalKO_TH123.avi).

EDIT: Feel free to poke through that directory too

[KaidaTan]

That reminds me, a friend of mine helped me test a few cards when 12.3 first came out. Here's one (http://users.bdryan.org/bdryan/video/Reimu_FatalKO_TH123.avi).

EDIT: Feel free to poke through that directory too
Yup, Fantasy Heaven is the same. It seems Reimu received only minor changes, because I can't find anything else. I guess I could check some of the spellcards I don't normally use, but that's about it. Maybe I'll find some people to play later.

Unfortunately, I'm the type of person that can't really play more than one character at a time well (this goes for any other fighting game too -- most notably SSBM), so I just choose one char and stick with him/her. And I do loves the miko.

EDIT: Oh um... is there an english patch yet? I haven't been paying much attention lately.

[z0mgc00k13]

yay i beat my first last word spell card :D
it was Sakuya's Deflation Wold :3

[BDRyan]

EDIT: Oh um... is there an english patch yet? I haven't been paying much attention lately.

Not as of yet no, just for the weather.

[KaidaTan]

Ugh, okay, now I can't watch any of my old replays >.< I guess I'll need two copies of the game...

[EarthAdept2]

From what I heard, changelog isn't going be really detailed for this patch. "Fixed major bugs" and vague things like that. People on doujinstyle have compiled a changelist for the time being. Some changes were already made to specific characters pages.


Reimu Hakurei:
-66A has a larger hitbox
-66C, Reimu now falls faster
-Youkai Buster (alt 236B/C): hits multiple times
-Demon Sealing Dimensional Rift (Alt 421): now hits in waves as it levels up.
-Spirit Sign "Fantasy Jewel" home and attack faster.
-Dimensional Rift: 421B/C - cosmetic change

Marisa Kirisame:
-j.8a no longer has a delay
-j.6A has longer delay
-Spellcard Love Sign "Non-Directional Laser" spins faster and is usable at long ranges
-Bosky Sweeper (alt 623B/C) has a larger hitbox and no longer grazes
-Up Sweeper (alt 214B/C) - cosmetic change
-Devildom Torch (alt 22B/C) - only air-usable at level 2
-Miasma Sweep (default 623B/C) - grazeable
-Green Spread (alt 236B/C:) - creates small stars instead of green balls. Stars grow in size when leveled.
-Magical Recycled Bomb - (alt 22 B/C) - now able to be melee'd to manipulate movement
-Potions in general are thrown lower, cancel later and are harder to cancel into each other (less lift) with the exception of 2C

Alice Margatroid:
-5B nerf
-New bullet : 4C launches a doll backwards
-Bullet cosmetic change, fan formation, no longer randomly spread
-6A now chargeable
-SP Doll Option (alt.22B) now fires lasers from all stationary C dolls on the field as well as from the three surrounding Alice. 22C does not do this.

Aya Shameimaru:
-Able to cancel bullets into other bullets much faster (?)
-Gust fan (default 236) - projectiles move faster when used from the air on ground.
-Thrust Sign "Tengu's Macroburst" - Now shoots a tornado below her.
-Illusionary Dominance - Start-up also has a hit-box. More "dashes" to ensure the opponent is hit as mny times as possible. Extra dashes at the bottom also ensure the opponent doesn't land, though the final hit may still miss.


Sakuya Izayoi:
-Buriallusion "Phantasmic Killer" - It has a new animation and can also do a lot more hits. The spell also comes out faster. It can hit for 99 hits at close range, but the damage output is low. Air-usable.
-Crossup Magic (def.623BC) - hits and ends faster, throws you to the ground vastly fast after its done.
-Propelling Silver (alt.623BC) - slowly expands and then collapses before ending.
-Sense of Thrown Edge (alt.236) turn gray for freeze duration, faster activation by time out.
-Parallel Brain (alt.236) - less knifes faster animation more damage per knife
-Vanishing Everything (def.22) - faster(?), ground version greater distance with level.
-Time Paradox (alt.22BC) stalls longer between 1st and 2nd hit and limits 20% each hit instead of 40% for the non illusion, second target dosnt go if first one dosnt hit.
-Square Ricochet (alt.214) - overall faster and 3rd bounce homes a good deal to target.
-Misdirection (Alt.214) - first knife no longer hits, chargable (unsure if at all levels)
Sakuya's Special Stopwatch - summons about 2x more stopwatches.


Youmu Konpaku:
-5B more lag, longer to HJC
-6B more lag, longer to HJC
-j2a now has a startup delay and end lag. The lag at the end of the move can be canceled into her B moves, range is also nerfed.
-5C now takes much longer to HJC out of.
-2C bullet range nerfed, no longer "shoots out more bullets/rotates more" duration is now the same for both 5C and 2C but 5C has a longer range.
-Netherworld Reflection Slash (default 236) larger, lost the level max bullet from 1.03, increases size as you level up
-Phosphorus Spirit Slash (alt 236) - new animation, looks angled, at levels 3 and 4 they have a trailing effect, now able to HJC faster than before
-Slash of Life and Death (default 214) - b version of this seems to be the same as the original, c version is the slow, but longer reach swing.
-Strange Half-Body (alt 22) - smaller bullets initially that get larger when lvl'd up, bullets now have a waving/squiggly effect when traveling.
-Heart Carving Cut (alt 214) - new animation, alot less pink flare, and has trailing sakura petals, much larger startup time and has this weird sliding effect at the end.
C version no longer does multiple hits or juggles. The sliding effect at the end swings you on the other side of the opponent.
-Enlightened Sword "Rise from Delusion" - does zero spirit damage.
-Soul Cutting "Ascension to Nirvana" - Spirit damage reduced to only one


Patchouli Knowledge:
-Autumn Edge (default 214) - cosmetic change; B version looks like the original, with the blades closer together. C version creates them much further apart, with a blind spot in the front, essentially creating a V-shape formation.
-Flame Sword (alt 236BC) is now a 2/3 hit combo depending on button used (B gives 2, C gives 3) Levelling increases range of slash? 20% limit per hit
-Conjuring Swords (alt 214BC) fires swords one at a time rather than all at once (Can still hold them)
-Philosophers Stone has a different startup animation.
-Silent Selene is now symmetrical? (all the lasers go around in one co-ordinated circle)
-Royal Flare does less hits(?)
-Royal Diamond Ring now spawns a ring that extends outwards slowly shooting the same bullets as before, much better than original damage-wise (3900 after my first try)


Yuyuko Saigyouji:
-66B now makes the opponent go directly down to the ground, groundslams on CH.
-J2A now applies 5% limit per hit.
-4A now has 5 additional frames of recovery.
-J6A recovery greatly increased, can no longer air tech or cancel on miss.
-C wisps have less lingering time, but also travel slower.
-JC/J2C will have you descend slowly instead of being suspended in the air.
-6C Travel distance increased.
-B bullets will lock you up slightly longer before allowing you to HJC.
-Dance of the Butterfly Dream (default 623BC) now launches the opponent forwards, almost to the opposite corner of the screen.
-Dance of the Butterfly Dream: Hitbox size increased at Lv3.
-Dance of the Butterfly Dream: Activation speed decreased.
-Spirits that Died Well (alternative 214BC): The initial wisp that Yuyuko launches travels much more faster upwards, making this move potentially more useful.
-Sphere Bloom (alternative 214BC): The C version has changed; now Yuyuko does a big leap backwards, (not unlike her backflip 623BC skillcard) leaving a trail of dots in her way. Not sure about this version's usefulness.
-Delivery from the Deceased (alternative 421BC):After this move connects for the first time, a tiny wisp will appear from the contact area of the attack, and it will chase the enemy until the end of the match. This wisp can hit the enemy for a low damage, but its hitbox dissapears quickly. If you connect this attack again, a new wisp will appear, (you can have up to 8 wisps in the screen) and the unactivated wisps will gain their hitboxes again. Further research on this skill will be appreciated.
-Reverse Screens(flip): Hitbox size increased at level 3. Recovery greatly increased. Can no longer be spellcanceled.
-Sense of Elegeance: Recovery time greatly reduced.
-Eternal Wandering: Activation time speeds up with level.
-Life Limit "Ticket to the Netherworld" deals much less damage. Around 3000-3500.
-Lost Again "Gensokyo's Hell" now doesn't launches your opponent that high upwards. It's easier to combo after doing it.
-Psyche "As the butterfly flies": Can now be used in the air.
-Sakura Sign "Sense of Cherry Blossom": Damage increased.
Credits: SWRSWiki


Remilia Scarlet:
-22C allows her to jump to the opposite side of the screen.
-Less knockback on 2A.
-More lag on 3A.
-Chain Gang (alt. 214B/C) C Version pulls you towards your opponent.
-Divine Spear "Spear the Gungnir" - always does 5 hits making it do more damage.
-2C is slightly faster.
-Air Dash is faster.
-Increased homing properties on her 5C

Yukari Yakumo:
-"Flesh Dismantler" skillcard (alt.421B/C) no longer has the C version move forward, instead having her jump high up about one character away. Her B version stays on the ground spinning for a short while.
-Now has a continuous dash.
-66C has a delay after it's used.(?)

Suika Ibuki:
Basics
-Dial A: Reach reduced, similar to how it was in SWR.
-3A: Spirit damaged reduced on incorrect block(1.5 > 1.0)
-6A: Spirit damage reduced on incorrect block(1.5 > 1.0)
-J6A: Increased recovery
-J2A: Now hits twice. Each hit has different properties.
-66C: Activation speed greatly decreased. Slower roll.
-2B: Launch height on counterhit greatly reduced.
-6B: Comes out slower, travels slower, bullet density reduced.
-C Bullets: Increased recovery time.
Skills
-Spectre -Dense-: Increased recovery time. C version is slower.
-Oni Spirit Bomb: Will now fall if charged in the air. B version will launch a slow fireball when charged. C will launch a fast fireball. Level changes the speed.
-Gnome -Dense-: C version's height has increased.
-Fire Oni: Does not split at Lv1. Splits into up to 8 fireballs at max level.
-Spectre -Thin-: Cannot be used in the air at Lv0.
-Unpleasant Mist: Teleport area reduced, but you have more control over it.
-Thin Oni: Can now be charged.
-Gathering Oni: Character sprite will now appear infront of the black hole instead of behind it.
-Kidnap Oni: Speed when leveling increased?(unconfirmed)
-Great Oni Will-o-wisp Art: Comes out slower but spirit damage increased.
Spells
-Mist Sign "Gathering and Dissipating": No longer has frame advantage on block.
-Oni Sign "Missing Power": Can no longer counterhit.
-Drunk Sign "Art of Oni Binding": Speed increased.
-Drunken Dream "Art of Gaki Binding": Speed increased.
-Four Devas Arcanum "Demolition in Three Steps": First hit will no longer counterhit.
-Will-o-wisp "Superdense Conflagration": Moves slower but the time it stays on the screen has increased.
Credits: SWRSWiki


Reisen Udongein Inaba:
-j.2a Reisen now falls much faster
-j.8a Reisen now ascends at a faster rate
-Mind Dropping (Alt 214B/C) - New animation. You can no longer launch two Mind Droppings at the same time.
-Mind Bending (alt 214B/C) - New animation. It produces more bubbles but they don't seem to do anything. Overall this skill seems to have been nerfed as the explosions seem smaller.
-All bullets travel faster

Komachi Onozuka:
-Bound Spirits of the Earth:(default 23B/C) wisps don't seem to have any hitbox when they spring up, but do when they come down.
-2C charges and has a new sound effect.
-66B slides farther
-2B start-up delay
-5C will be canceled out if another 5c is thrown out. However, the canceled 5c will stay in place where it was canceled for 6-7 seconds, leaving time for a 2C explosion.
-6C - cosmetic change
-3A - whiffs at close range
-6C, j.6C, j.2C, and Spirits of the Firm (default 236) have new charging animations.


Iku Nagae:
-f.5A, 6A, 3A, j.2A, j.6A, j.5A, 66A, 66C, and possibly some other moves have graphical changes. They can now see our hitboxes.
-2C extends farther
-6A cosmetic change - Iku does a swipe in front of her, with wind effects.
-Dragon Fish's Strike (default 236B/C) - larger hitbox
-Veils like water (default 623B/C) - B version is now like the old SWR C version, except it's air blockable.
-Dragon Fish's Wrath(default 22B/C)Bigger, has more pushback.
-Electrostatic Guided Missile (default 214B/C) Bigger and brighter at level 2.
-Veils Like Wind (alt 623B/C) - B version lasts a long time, C version lasts less than B version but is way larger. Ignores the opponent.
-Angel Strike (alt 623B/C) - B version is the same as before, C version has a bit of startup and is a full-fledged grab.
-Dragon God's Lightning Flash (alt 214B/C) Seems to be slower, less dense, more spread and less bounce.
-Dragon God's Whiskers (alt 22B/C) - C version activates as fast as B version, and still lasts a long time. However, this time leveling increases the amount of hits. At level 1, C version hits 6 times, and at level max, it hits 12 hits. B version is four hits on all levels.
-Lightning Sign "Elekiter Dragon Palace": Deals less damage.
-Jewel Sign "Pearl of the Five-Clawed Dragon" Grows as time passes
-Thorn Sign "Thunder Cloud Stickleback": Still lasts five seconds, but has eight ticks now. As such, it ticks faster.
-Dragon Fish "Swimming Oarfish Shot": Less bullets, has pushback, smaller duration.
Credits: SWRSWiki



Tenshi Hinanai:
-Pillars of Divine Punishment(default 22)- drops stones on both sides
*does not last long unless leveled
*C version drops smaller stones, 2-3 characters away in front
-6B seems to hit 5 times at point blank range. If 6B is used after 6A, 6B will hit 3 times.
-j.2a smaller rock, less lag
-Sword of Karma (alt.214B/C) spins differently

Sanae Kochiya:
-6A change, does an upward sweep
-3A change, does a slide 40% limit
-6C new Kanako assist, throws pillars ahead of her
*j.6C change, similar to 6C
-4C new Suwako assist, she jumps from the ground spinning her hoop
*new bullet J.4C, similar to 4C
-Revitalizing Wind (default 236B/C) - Faster launch, quicker recovery. Both versions produce the whirlwind in front of Sanae, where it moves forward quickly. C version now makes it move diagonally upwards instead. C version has 3 hits still, B has 2.
-j.2a change, does a small stomp
-j.6a change, Sanae now sweeps her staff in front of her, around to over her shoulder. Moves her up and backwards on use.
-5C now chargeable
-f.5A replaced: Sanae now spins and sweeps her staff downwards, similar in style to Komachi's f.5A. Fairly fast.
-8A change: Now moves Sanae slightly forward.
-B bullets change: The wall of bullets will contract inwards over a distance.
-Sea Opening "Moses's Miracle" able to combo off of 66C
-Fortune Packet Toss (default 22B/C): Faster recovery/HJC time(?)
-Earth Goddess: Iron Wheel (alt 214B/C): Faster, Suwako's hoop now spins a full 360 degrees around her body.
-Wonder "Daytime Guest Stars": Now summoned over the enemy.
-Esoterica "Nine Syllable Stabs": Lasers now deal more hits before they vanish.
-Cobalt Spread (alt 22, blue frogs): C version pops out farther away from the opponent and has faster horizontal momentum, while the B version maintains the original vertical coverage.
Some taken directly from SWRSWiki

Cirno:
-Icicle Sword - Air usable, launches cirno forward (C Ver.), does 4 hits (2 in 1.03)
-Icicle Shoot(default 236) - Gives a signal when charged fully
-Dial A's 3rd Hit now has multiple hits similar to her f.5a.
-Freeze me, Touch me (default 623)- less delay
-Frost Pillars - Skill can now be used on downed characters. It will not activate until they can be hit. C version has more delay in both startup and endlag.
-Icicle Rise (alt 623B/C)- C version now travels across the ground.
* Max level travels across the playing field
-Icicle Bomb (alt 22B/C) Distance travel decrease, moves slower
-Perfect Freeze damage increased


Hong Meiling:
-Speed increase in air(?)
-j.6A less delay(?)
-It appears her charged 6C travels faster now. The C version of her yellow chi-beam has a much longer startup but produces a larger beam.

Suwako Moriya:
-f.5a chargeable, rocks get bigger and send opponents up
-5C is now a mini geyser, infinite range,
-j.6B/j.2B cancels faster
-Backstep speed reduce
-j.2a change
-2A less start-up
-j.8a change
-623 Hoop has different version on lily-pad
-6.a change
-dial-a extra hit, 2.4k damage
-SGS buff, 6k damage, aura spreads faster
-3A new move, Suwako rides on a mini frog and then ends up on her lily-pad.
-Monstrous Toad God (default 623B/C) - C version makes her DP on her lilypad from underground.
-Dial-A is now comboable due to the extra hit.
-New multi-directional dash (j.1D/j.2D/j.3D)
-dives underground ONLY after landing a hit on j.6A if she is close enough to the ground.
-Can no longer cancel her ground dashing with certain system cards, such as the Spirit Light or Great Catfish.
-623 Hoop now has different versions in the air as well. C has two extra hits than B.
-Source Sign "Suwa Spring Water" is now usable on lily.


Utsuho Reiuji:
-faster all around
-Break Sun (def.22B/C) gains more bullets on level up
-6B, bigger & faster
-Sun 4card SC now has gravitational pull
-Hell Geyser (alt 236) no longer stays on field, disappears after use
-j.6a faster(?)
-Ground Melt (def.236) delayed explosion when has contact with the floor
-66C nerf(?)
-66B buff(?)
-Flare Up (def.623B/C) Nerf! However, gets better at Lv.3-4 and changes colors.

General Changes:
-falling speed adjusted(?)
-System card : Ibuki Gourd - the first card is instantly filled up when you use the card while the second is filled in the same way it was before.
-System card : White Tower Sword - Drains 2 orbs instead of all

Credits go to the numerous posters on Doujinstyle.

I feel bad for Alice. A low tier character getting nerfed even further? Thanks Tasofro.

[KaidaTan]

Credits go to the numerous posters on Doujinstyle.

I feel bad for Alice. A low tier character getting nerfed even further? Thanks Tasofro.
Sweet, thanks. Looks like Reimu is still fine <3

By the way, what's the tier list look like? I don't think I've ever actually seen it. I don't mind a 1.03 list, I just have no idea other than that Alice and Suwako suck.

[EarthAdept2]

There's no actual list so far. The list way back when touhou 12.3 came out was as follows:


http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1302/sokutierlist01.png

I'm sure that since the release and the patches. Several characters have shifted. Suwako is most likely a huge candidate for moving up a lot of ranks due to the new combos (4k damage combo that only uses 4 orbs and no spellcard? Hell yeah), string pressure, gimmicks, and relatively (and recently buffed) strong spellcards.

EDIT: Oh a slightly more updated tier list though it is probably still behind.


http://i50.tinypic.com/24wftzr.png


Ranking based on top 10 Japan players released on October 31st, 2009, for Hisoutensoku 1.03.
The lengths of each bar are within proportions to each other, but have a cutoff point of 350 on a Glicko rating system, with the highest Tier (Yuyuko) holding a Glicko rating of 2250 and the lowest (Suwako) standing on 1880.

Reuploaded pic for ya. Magister is currently the best english Komachi player sitting at the phantasm skill level I believe. He's on his way to winning the 2nd touhou 12.3 tourney amongst doujinstyle members haha. EDIT: Spoiler'd

[Spideyjvc]

I feel bad for Alice. A low tier character getting nerfed even further?

Indeed. As someone who likes playing Alice, I can say it feels pretty bad, man.


I also didn't realize this thread was really here. Took glances at it before but thought it was pretty dead.

[KaidaTan]

I like how so many of the characters are so close. I have heard a few pros (magist3r and some others whose names I don't remember) say that that list is BS for one reason or another, and they say Yuyuko is top tier. Still, the fact that it's open for debate means that the game is generally balanced, which is cool.

I can't see your second image at all, and a spoiler would be nice too. Assuming you're not terribly far from the East Coast, would you be interested in playing in the near future? I can host~

[z0mgc00k13]

I feel bad for Alice. A low tier character getting nerfed even further? Thanks Tasofro.

yes she did get nerfed >:
i just thot it got a bit more fun to play as her :P

[BDRyan]

FYI: One of the main resources for TH10.5 and TH12.3, SWRSWiki @ Mizuumi, is going to be removed by February 1st - the site's owner is no longer interested in hosting it. Fortunately there's already a few mirrors of that information up (including one here @ Wikia (http://www.southperry.net/out/?u=http://touhou-hisouten.wikia.com/wiki/)). I am also going to establish a filedump as well, which will include what's available on Mizuumi as well as other stuff (like installers for the rest of the series and the like).

EDIT: Filedump is set up here (http://touhou.bdryan.org). Right now it's only a mirror of mizuumi's filedump + a self-extractor for TH12.3 1.10, but I'll be putting more stuff up here for people. NOTE: This is still fairly new in DNS, if it doesn't load for you, try it again a bit later.

EDIT 2: If you wish to have me host other Touhou games on the mirror, simply suggest it here. If you want to have me host replays on the mirror, PM me.

[EarthAdept2]

Just something for people to know, I updated the changelist for 1.10 patch. So scroll up to see the additions.

[Tikey]

ZUN update:

Touhou 12.5: Double Spoiler (sequel to Touhou 9.5: Shoot the Bullet) comes out on March 14th.

[TKWizard]

Eh? No TH 13?

I'm guessing hes taking a break again.

[Tikey]

Eh? No TH 13?

I'm guessing hes taking a break again.

I wonder if he's going to upgrade the engine again since, in his last "off" year, there was a huge engine upgrade from 9 to 9.5.

[Yotsuba]

I wonder if he's going to upgrade the engine again since, in his last "off" year, there was a huge engine upgrade from 9 to 9.5.

I was actually thinking this as well when I read the announcement.

[TKWizard]

I wonder when will he find the time to modernize the PC-98 games with the current game engine..

[Yotsuba]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7285/1268550236540.jpg

So I heard you guys like point ears.

[z0mgc00k13]

oluk more tengus

[EarthAdept2]

Lol, my first stb game and it's pretty hard for me D:

Horray for momiji having her own spellcards finally!

So anyone know how to do 3-4 (that rebound laser stage)? Me and my friend just can't figure out how to beat it.

[Tikey]

Lol, my first stb game and it's pretty hard for me D:

Horray for momiji having her own spellcards finally!

So anyone know how to do 3-4 (that rebound laser stage)? Me and my friend just can't figure out how to beat it.

You have to take a picture when the laser starts rebounding towards you. I can make a quick video for you if you want.

It looks like ZUN updated the particle physics a bit. It's pretty sleek and flashy.

[EarthAdept2]

Ah I got it now, thanks.

Also, momiji is canon tsundere now. :V

[Tikey]

ZUN made some pretty interesting patterns in this one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TRsE7atrv4

[Khoi]

Is it sad that I have a shit-ton of Touhou songs, but have yet to play any of these Touhou games? Fuck. Guess I better start.

[EarthAdept2]

You know, it's sometimes these kinds of spells that make me burned out from playing touhou shooters.

http://i43.tinypic.com/v79wnm.jpg

Yes, that is 412 tries. For one success. And you know what else

http://i41.tinypic.com/j5v0if.jpg

You can tell I'm a talented player right.