Lol @ the Hermits glitching BF :f7:

[ZooK]

no real point for us sins to even atempt to try to be top 5 cause by the time we hit lvl 70 the glitch will be patched and the other hermits will be level 140 :)

[Blankout]

You never know. :)

[xLeviathan]

News Flash: Hermit is now first @ level 90.
Also, the top two mages must be F/Pizards.

They SHOT up.
Seriously.

[Birdie]

Im guessing this is what all the smegas were talking about. Kinda weird that in Yellonde its considered glitching, but in Scania people have no problem with it.(from what I have heard atleast.)

Edit: That hermit eyrod was one of the people using smegas when I was on, talking about killing zakum after he go to 120 tomorrow

[Blankout]

Im guessing this is what all the smegas were talking about. Kinda weird that in Yellonde its considered glitching, but in Scania people have no problem with it.(from what I have heard atleast.)

Edit: That hermit eyrod was one of the people using smegas when I was on, talking about killing zakum after he go to 120 tomorrow

Is this how he popped up out of nowhere and became #1? @_@

[Birdie]

wow, in the time it took the rankings to refresh, he gained 5 lvls

[Blankout]

wow, in the time it took the rankings to refresh, he gained 5 lvls

Holy...this Bigfoot glitch is really going to unbalance the Yellondian ranks, not that it wasn't unbalanced already.

[xLeviathan]

Holy...this Bigfoot glitch is really going to unbalance the Yellondian ranks, not that it wasn't unbalanced already.

This is ridiculous.
They should be banned, no joke.
It's definitely not fair to us who actually have to work to level.

Eyrod/Sekrit are actually over 100, but ranks can't catch up.
Like I said, there is reason to worry ._.

[Friend]

I'd rather have clerics fill up the top five instead of big foot abusers. =T

[GMSInfighter]

Thank god I'm going to make a bowman there..

No glitches for me, so I wont get "U glitch footbig nd hek nxon.."

[kleptophobia]

Eyrod is 100, Sekrit is 98, BeastGT is a F/P. Ahhh hilarious. I hope Nexon bans them all ;D

[Magus]

If I've learned anything from Broa, it's that things like this don't fall into Nexon's care folder. (Not much does.)
By the time they get to 18x people will get over it.

[Blankout]

If I've learned anything from Broa, it's that things like this don't fall into Nexon's care folder. (Not much does.)
By the time they get to 18x people will get over it.

Nexon's service is slowly improving, so maybe they will take care of this. These guys are leveling as if they were hacking.

[Judgment]

If I've learned anything from Broa, it's that things like this don't fall into Nexon's care folder. (Not much does.)
By the time they get to 18x people will get over it.

I believe this was the case in Scania with the WW Toenail Glitch. (They didn't bother to rollback the server or punish the exploiters at all.)

[pilowman]

So,Will they be considered legit?
It is NOT fair that they level even faster than hackers >_>

[Blankout]

So,Will they be considered legit?
It is NOT fair that they level even faster than hackers >_>

I think it's illegit because you're abusing an exploit in the game to have an advantage over others.

[VladTheLvr]

You know I just realized.... What if the glitch is to hype up the area (Last Years boomers.)

[ZooK]

http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1483182

someone sign me up in there

ZookNL current lvl 45 lvl by sept 5th = like 11x or something 10x~12x

[Magus]

God, it's the oPQ all over again.

[insertAlias]

These guys are leveling as if they were hacking.

Yeah, same with GoPQers...
same with PG HACKERS lol... look how they turned out to be...
grew up to be mighty fine :D


unfortunately, I don't think Nexon will do crap about it except fix it maybe next month or something =)

although I do gotta say this thing is more extreme then everything else... except maybe the PG hack epidemic

[Skylicious]

man y r ppl so jelis.

[Acim]

sekrit
Level 110
(3,620,561 EXP)



Eyrod
Level 103
(5,445,056 EXP)


Yeah, they're glitching. I'm starting to think Nexon meant to leave BF's boss flag at 0. O_o Are all th "mini-bosses" like MM and ZMM considered bosses in the data?

[Roxas]

sekrit
Level 110
(3,620,561 EXP)



Eyrod
Level 103
(5,445,056 EXP)


Yeah, they're glitching. I'm starting to think Nexon meant to leave BF's boss flag at 0. O_o Are all th "mini-bosses" like MM and ZMM considered bosses in the data?

Mini boss or not doesn't matter. Their boss flag is at 1.

It's annoying though, to see how they can get levels so easily while we have to grind. ._.

[Muse]

This is ridiculous.
They should be banned, no joke.
It's definitely not fair to us who actually have to work to level.

Eyrod/Sekrit are actually over 100, but ranks can't catch up.
Like I said, there is reason to worry ._.

Actually, it is fair in a way. They were smart enough to think ahead and take advantage of this.

[D-F1am3]

Wow look at the level difference of rank 3-4 in yellonde, obviously BF abusers like someone said. I'm wondering if people will forget about who abused this like the WW toenails.

[xLeviathan]

Actually, it is fair in a way. They were smart enough to think ahead and take advantage of this.

Alas, it's not fair at all.
The part that REALLY isn't fair is that Nexon won't fix this shit either.
T_T;



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[Valarius]

I was absent from MS yesterday due to more pressing matters. I check ranks this morning and I see a hermit nobody has heard of at level 110 already. I seriously F4'd IRL in about 2 seconds.

I expected to see 8x, not 11x. FUCKING BF ABUSERS. This sickens me.

[xLeviathan]

I was absent from MS yesterday due to more pressing matters. I check ranks this morning and I see a hermit nobody has heard of at level 110 already. I seriously F4'd IRL in about 2 seconds.

I expected to see 8x, not 11x. FUCKING BF ABUSERS. This sickens me.

Totally agreed.
Oh, to go with my post above :



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[Milelke]

Has anybody bothered to ticket nexon? Because now this has become completely out of control not to mention somewhat unfair >_>.

[xDae]

Has anybody bothered to ticket nexon? Because now this has become completely out of control not to mention somewhat unfair >_>.
I just did

Here's what I wrote:

I have played this game for nearly 3 years now. Never once had I completely and utterly lost faith in Wizet / Nexon. You have a monster that has millions of HP and is poisonable? You do know skills such as Poison Mist and Shadow Web have damage based off a monster's max HP, right? I certainly hope someone was just forgetful and forgot to give Big Foot a boss flag

The thing is, in populated servers its hard to level off of Big Foot because there is so much competition. I am in no way saying that makes it right to do so, but in Yellonde, there is hardly anyone in Crimsonwood Keep. Hermits and f/p mages are killing Big Foot in a matter of seconds. I would like to think that this wasnt supposed to happen

When someone goes from level 90 to level 100 in two hours, shouldnt that catch your attention?

I know Im gonna get some lame auto reponse, but I figured Id just give my two cents and hope to get some answers to questions everyone is asking:

1. Will you make Big Foot a boss so he cant be webbed / poisoned?
2. What are you going to do to the people who have been abusing the fact that he isnt a boss?

You want proof, here ya go: http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m93/qwerty808/maple1045nl8.jpg

It was immediately closed with no response

[xLeviathan]

@xDae: I think the situation is being handled, IMO.
It's very noticable, and they're quick to handle those kinds of things at least.

[Mark]

They won't get banned for it. You might as well just consider Yellonde another fail server and begin your wait for the new one.

[Pikachu]

They won't get banned for it. You might as well just consider Yellonde another fail server and begin your wait for the new one.

qft for now.

[Nikkey]

Nexon's service is slowly improving, so maybe they will take care of this. These guys are leveling as if they were hacking.

As if they were hacking? They're leveling way faster, mister.

Edit: Still waiting for a reply for my ticket.

[wobbufet]

I hope they don't simply fix it by making it a boss. If it's a boss it will either be another NL/BM/MM only boss like anego or the whole area will be swamped with bigfoots... >_>

[Valarius]

By making it a boss, it'll stop the uberlevelling f/p's and hermits. IMO, that's enough for now.

I'm guessing nexon is too busy to open a text file and change the boss flag. More pressing matters such as cash shop items, I suppose. *rolls eyes*

[Mark]

You're forgetting it'll take much longer than that. It requires a patch to fix Bigfoot.

[Savage]

Looks like NEXON might fix the glitch?


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[Acim]

You're forgetting it'll take much longer than that. It requires a patch to fix Bigfoot.


Looks like NEXON might fix the glitch?

Nope, that's server maintenance. Like Opeth said (see quote) and others said too, I believe, BF can only be fixed by a patch.

[Derimed]

This is ridiculous.
They should be banned, no joke.
It's definitely not fair to us who actually have to work to level.

Eyrod/Sekrit are actually over 100, but ranks can't catch up.
Like I said, there is reason to worry ._.

I agree the glitch should be patched, but I do not agree that people should be banned. This situation is completely different from the OPQ glitch, because in OPQ you have to do some pretty crazy stuff to exploit the glitch, whereas here you're just using legit skills to kill a monster that is supposed to be weak to them. These people did not disconnect their modem or collect statue pieces, they used web or mist. If Nexon starts banning for that, that's pretty unfair.

[Nikkey]

Looks like NEXON might fix the glitch?

With a maintenance, they can only remove the spawn.

[ZooK]

hi mondays when are we gonna get married cutie :f2:

[Beaner]

just exclude those glitchers from bossing and their glitching will be useless

[Nikkey]

just exclude those glitchers from bossing and their glitching will be useless

You wish that would happen, I wish that would happen. But it won't. Because people are ignorant. People don't care. We know the deal, they have to be banned, and even if they get banned temporarily and removed from the ranks, they will still boss with people that doesn't see this as an issue later on.

[Valarius]

A ranking ban of these users would ease my concerns.

*sigh* #1 rank is 20 levels above the #3 rank as of this post .. lol.

[xLeviathan]

You wish that would happen, I wish that would happen. But it won't. Because people are ignorant. People don't care. We know the deal, they have to be banned, and even if they get banned temporarily and removed from the ranks, they will still boss with people that doesn't see this as an issue later on.

In the beginning, the only people who will be bossing will hopefully only be SP'ers/SW'ers and I'm all for this idea T_T;!

[Danny]

They can't exclude them, mardiafags have taken over yellonde.

[Nikkey]

In the beginning, the only people who will be bossing will hopefully only be SP'ers/SW'ers and I'm all for this idea T_T;!

Whatever.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/WhiteKnightt/YelLOLde/MapleStory2008-08-1922-02-19-12.png

[Mike]

A sign of hope!

[Corn]

Well...it might not be considered glitching :f1:. (Didn't read past posts)

I mean, did NxProse say someone a boss was meant to be like this or something?

[Blankout]

Well...it might not be considered glitching :f1:. (Didn't read past posts)

I mean, did NxProse say someone a boss was meant to be like this or something?

If a boss was meant to be killed in less an a minute for tens of millions of experience at pre-fourth job, then the people who designed it are morons.

[xLeviathan]

Whatever.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/WhiteKnightt/YelLOLde/MapleStory2008-08-1922-02-19-12.png

Isn't Tiara a GM?

:f6:

[Haiku]

Yup, she is. I wanna see how she & the other GMs handle this.. and I'm certainly amused that she's still active in Yello. She disappeared from Kradia the 3rd-4th day.

[xLeviathan]

Yup, she is. I wanna see how she & the other GMs handle this.. and I'm certainly amused that she's still active in Yello. She disappeared from Kradia the 3rd-4th day.

I figured it wouldn't take too long.
Sorry for the semi-spam, kinda wanted this to happen.
<<;

:glitter:

[Cactuar]

Great originality though I'm a tadbit worried about poisoning the boss.

There's a way to fight him and not die, although it takes some coordination. About the mobs, we'll have to see how it works out. No promises, though.

He blew off my question about it being poisonable, so I'm going to say it's not a glitch. If it is the people using it shouldn't be banned, because that answer makes it seem like it was intentional.

[kleptophobia]

Wasn't there a glitch like this in JMS? Anego was weak to poison and shadow web (I remember that 3rd job was new to JMS as was Showa Town and I am pretty confident I saw an anego being poisoned)... :f6:

But I hope TiaraYellonde follows her word and bans them glitchers >_<

[Nikkey]

He blew off my question about it being poisonable, so I'm going to say it's not a glitch. If it is the people using it shouldn't be banned, because that answer makes it seem like it was intentional.

His reply to your question is rather questionable, I got to admit. I don't get what he says, simply put. However, it seems like he was thinking that poisoning the mobs weren't possible, and that this is something he had to see what's going to happen with:

"About the mobs, we'll have to see how it works out. No promises, though."

[xDae]

He blew off my question about it being poisonable, so I'm going to say it's not a glitch. If it is the people using it shouldn't be banned, because that answer makes it seem like it was intentional.
Where did you talk to him o_0?

[Nikkey]

Where did you talk to him o_0?

The nexon forums.

[ZooK]

I swear GM's say what people want to hear on smegas just so they can gain money with the responce smegas..

[Haiku]

Only time'll tell tbh.

We should all just give it some time.

[Nikkey]

I swear GM's say what people want to hear on smegas just so they can gain money with the responce smegas..

Not always:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/WhiteKnightt/MapleWindia/Maple0212.jpg

[ZooK]

lulz what a bitch

[Pikachu]

lulz what a bitch

That made me lol irl

[Roxas]

I swear GM's say what people want to hear on smegas just so they can gain money with the responce smegas..

Now you're complaining about the GMs saying they're going to fix the issue to the server? Not everything is related with money you know, and saying it on a smega is the most effective way. Even if she did just [Notice] it people would have still smega'd.

[ZooK]

who said im complaining about the gms ?...

[Blankout]

I'm starting to feel that Nexon not opening CWK to testers was a bad idea.

[ZooK]

CWK got tested? f6

[Cactuar]

His reply to your question is rather questionable, I got to admit. I don't get what he says, simply put. However, it seems like he was thinking that poisoning the mobs weren't possible, and that this is something he had to see what's going to happen with:

"About the mobs, we'll have to see how it works out. No promises, though."

Full question I asked:

When I first looked over the information on the mobs, I was filled with disappointment. After running the ratios by a few other monsters around their levels, however, I found that these monsters are great! Except the fact that they have annoying immunities and skills or spawn with terrible monsters. My question is, do you plan on "fixing" these EXP:HP ratios (particularly the windraider, who has a horrid 40 HP to 1 EXP ratio) and dropping a few immunities? Actually, my only real qualm is with the WindRaider. It basically feels like it's there to ruin possibly great training areas. I love it's design, but could you at least give it 800 EXP or something? Other than that, I love Bigfoot. Great originality though I'm a tadbit worried about poisoning the boss.

He only sectioned it, to make it smaller. He clearly was referring to Bigfoot.

[Silver_ice]

u people are kinda silly u know that right.

shadow web wont work if anyone attacks the bigfoot, the web is broken. if ur so intent on punishing or seeing these hermits. then jus track them and attack the bigfoot so they cant web it anymore. if they cant web it they wont stand a chance at killing it.

[Judgment]

Wasn't there a glitch like this in JMS? Anego was weak to poison and shadow web (I remember that 3rd job was new to JMS as was Showa Town and I am pretty confident I saw an anego being poisoned)... :f6:

I believe that glitch also existed in JMS, but I think it was the Bodyguards that were poisonable/SWable. (I also don't remember hearing about any punishments being handed out to those exploiters.)

[Blankout]

u people are kinda silly u know that right.

shadow web wont work if anyone attacks the bigfoot, the web is broken. if ur so intent on punishing or seeing these hermits. then jus track them and attack the bigfoot so they cant web it anymore. if they cant web it they wont stand a chance at killing it.

That's not as easy as it seems.

[LazyBui]

u people are kinda silly u know that right.

shadow web wont work if anyone attacks the bigfoot, the web is broken. if ur so intent on punishing or seeing these hermits. then jus track them and attack the bigfoot so they cant web it anymore. if they cant web it they wont stand a chance at killing it.The fact is that no matter how much people break it, it still works every 3 seconds regardless of when web hits. Say you cast it and it hits at 1.5 seconds out of 3. Someone hits it the next instant and you hit again at 2.9 seconds. It'll still do damage.

It may take longer and the inexperienced Hermit/Night Lord might die, but it's definitely still possible and is only a minor detriment to the process. Oh, and good luck figuring out which Twisted Path that Hermit/Night Lord is on before they kill it.

[insertAlias]

I believe that glitch also existed in JMS, but I think it was the Bodyguards that were poisonable/SWable. (I also don't remember hearing about any punishments being handed out to those exploiters.)

Yeah, it was the Bodyguards.
They were leveling 10 times a day at level 130.

which is what's gonna be happening soon here.

[Vieny]

Im gonna be the only nice guy and say gratz sekrit on night lord! I hope you don't let greed get the best of you.

[Blankout]

Im gonna be the only nice guy and say gratz sekrit on night lord!

I'll say congrats too.

And now it's time to be mad at his glitching again.

[tau]

well, that was fun.

[Matty]

Cant you see it now everyone?

Dexlyss.......Highest Level Bandit in all of Yellonde.....Ksing Hackers 5 at a time....
:o
:D
:3

[Silver_ice]

The fact is that no matter how much people break it, it still works every 3 seconds regardless of when web hits. Say you cast it and it hits at 1.5 seconds out of 3. Someone hits it the next instant and you hit again at 2.9 seconds. It'll still do damage.

It may take longer and the inexperienced Hermit/Night Lord might die, but it's definitely still possible and is only a minor detriment to the process. Oh, and good luck figuring out which Twisted Path that Hermit/Night Lord is on before they kill it.

i know its hard but fp mages can totally screw webbers over.

so can people that just constantly attack bigfoot. u cant web something thats being hit.

atleast deter them if they are gonna continue that.

[ZooK]

ok mr dylan lets hop on that fire mage RIGHT NOW Being the only fp mage is lvl 72? and LULZ @ us going to hit big foot half of us dying at jrwraiths OKAY lets go there right now and Miss on the bigfoot YAyyyyyY

[Haiku]

Keep in mind that if you're attacking the BF and a GM is investigating in hide, they will probably assume that you're an accomplice and take action against you as well.

Remember the whole "if a hacker is on a map, report them and leave immediately; do not KS or loot them" thing? I don't see why this would look any different to a third person.

[Silver_ice]

ok correct me if im wrong though. but i thought psn mist doesnt miss.. still fp lvl fast too especially with 4x.

anyway its jus failure hermits glitching bigfoot i spose.

and if ur attacking the bigfoot with mist. it will get poisoned and die. thats legit. but the webber isnt.

[Haiku]

Poison doesn't have 100% accuracy. It's the same as any other skill. Summons used to hit 100% of the time & Three Snails, but they were nerfed. The problem isn't just that people are abusing the glitch, but they're letting others leech off of it. That just makes the problem grow and makes it a lot harder for the GMs to weed out all the benefiters.

It's not anymore legit than a hermit doing it because it's a BOSS and should not be poisonable OR webbable. 10m exp in 40 seconds (and trust me plenty of people have 4x to get this amount of exp) is not "right" and it's not how Nexon meant for the game to be played. >.>; By your logic, if HT and Zakum should be poisonable and it would be fair (Note: 40 second kills for each "monster" part).

[blink182]

Reminds me of the glitch in jMS(long time ago) People were able to shadow web the bodyguards. I remember someone got to 17x off it.

Hope it's fixed soon. Feels like a waste playing with this shit running around.

[insertAlias]

Reminds me of the glitch in jMS(long time ago) People were able to shadow web the bodyguards. I remember someone got to 17x off it.

Hope it's fixed soon. Feels like a waste playing with this shit running around.

Somebody got to 18x :P... well I think she was close enough.
I wonder if they really intended for it to be poisoned/webbed though... -refers to Prose's earlier comments-
I just think it's kinda ridiculous that they'd do that >_>

[tau]

So is killing Bigfoot with Lucky 7/TT + Venom glitching also? That would suck.

[Avenge]

So is killing Bigfoot with Lucky 7/TT + Venom glitching also? That would suck.

Bigfoot takes me around 7-8 minutes to kill with an apple. Not even close to abusing the glitch.

..and anyone who thinks this is what Nexon intended for Bigfoot is incredibly retarded. Judging by the GM's smegaphone, we'll be seeing some players disappearing from the ranks in the days to come.

[Nikkey]

Glitching or not glitching?

This is what most people think of these days in Yellonde. People think that killing Bigfoot with the skill Shadow Web or Poison Mist is glitch abuse due to the fact that you're gaining 2 660 000 experience in 40 seconds. For most people, this is not an issue, as it is, in fact, hard to find a Bigfoot on all servers... but Yellonde. Since Yellonde is a new server, Bigfoots can be killed for good experience. Saying the first person to be able to kill a Bigfoot is more than 1 hour and 30 minutes in front of the next person being able to kill them, this person would be able to gain the rather low amount of 1106.56 million experience (2 660 000 * 2x card * 2x event * 8 maps * 13 channels). If this person managed to get this far on Monday, he would have doubled that amount of experience (I.e. 2.2 billion experience, all in 1 hour and 10 minutes).
So, what is 1.1 billion experience? It's the amount of experience you need to get from level 70 to level 129. This is relatively fast, considering you'll be able to get this in, estimating you're using 60 seconds per Bigfoot, 104 minutes. And yeah, I know that you will lose some amount of experience by starting from 70, but by the time you're 83 or so (read, 7 bigfoots, less than one channel), Bigfoot will gain you maximum experience.
So, is this the definition of glitching? No, not really. Obviously, assuming the game was (keep in mind, I do not confirm nor deny what it is) intended to be in this way, there's nothing wrong with this. It just sounds unfair, and, from a game designer's point of view, is unfair and makes the game unbalanced and not be fun for everyone. (No, this is not biased, this is fact. The general majority of players will say that having certain classes leveling 100 times faster than others will be unfair. It makes the game unbalanced (not saying that it wasn't), and it makes some people having less fun than others.)


Let's check the arguments for and against that Nexon intended to make this happen. Assume Against is against the use of poison mist/shadow web (let's say specifically the last part) and For has no issues with this.

Quote from NxProse

Q: Great originality though I'm a tadbit worried about poisoning the boss.
A: There's a way to fight him and not die, although it takes some coordination. About the mobs, we'll have to see how it works out. No promises, though.

For (killing BF with poison): His statement says that the bosses were intended to be poisonable.
Against (“glitching”): His statement is blurry, and doesn't really answer the question (or, more exact, sentence).
For: Last sentences says that the boss (it's called mob in the answer, but this is most likely just a phrase for monsters + bosses) was intended to be poisonable. If this way of doing it is not working properly, they will change the way the boss works, without any rollback nor banning of people taking advantage of this boss.
Against: Noone said that Shadow Web were intended to deal damage to this boss, besides, the reply were in plural, not in singular, as in “one boss”. Also, mob is usually a group of something, in this case, monsters.
For: Noone said that Shadow Web weren't.
[...]

Against shows picture of the information about Masteria:
http://msfile.nexon.net/Uploaded/Img/common/post/20080812/080812_masteria_02.gif
For: The picture doesn't display the boss. Nexon could have set the boss as another boss. Or, you could assume that they didn’t set it up as a boss because that would automatically make it immune to poison.
Against: That doesn’t make sense. It would be much easier for them to make pin it as a boss, make it weak to poison and neutral/physical damage resistant (yes, this is possible. Pink Bean), and buffing up the experience a little.
[…]

Against shows picture of TiaraYellond saying all glitchers will be banned:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s139/WhiteKnightt/YelLOLde/MapleStory2008-08-1922-02-19-12.png
For: TiaraYellond is wrong, NxProse’s answer is right @@@
Against: No, it’s not. pineapple you, you make no sense1!=!!””!”
For: no u 2@22@@
[Drama]

So, funnily enough, noone’s right. With the right brainpower, you could say that bigfoot is a glitch. You could say it isn’t. We just have to wait for a response from Nexon STATING that the boss is either supposed to be like this or that the boss IS NOT supposed to be like this.

My input is this:
Nexon did not intend to make a level 77 player to use a skill (which is used for catching monsters, making them unable to move and is not supposed to deal damage. Or, for killing normal monsters, not bosses, in 40 seconds) to gain one fourth of the experience needed for levelling to 200 from 199 (we’ll see realistically on it, 500 mill/hr with 2x cards and no events going on). NxProse’s reply seems to be blurry, but he’s saying mobs as in plural groups of monsters, not a single monster. The picture for the Crimsonwood Expansion is saying that there’s a new boss coming out, whereas the only monster I can consider as a new boss is Bigfoot. Finally, TiaraYellond said that all glitchers will be banned.

This is just logic thinking, and I’d like to see a reasonable way of thinking the other way, that this is supposed to happen.

[ZooK]

mondays i think i love you :f1:

[Savage]

The fact that everyone at SP is able to have an intelligent conversation about the BF glitch...unlike SW who had to shut the damn forum down because of all the drama.

I think the glitch is the same as hacking- it has the same mentality: Taking Advantage of the game to benefit yourself and affect others.

The whole Presents-Eternity-Tiara drama...eh...at least we're not partaking in that...it gives me a headache. NEXON will probably have to patch it to change the glitch if it's still in effect...we can only wait and see.

[Valarius]

Rankings ban, and a removal of all bosses and minibosses in CWK would put an end to this, until Nexon throws together a solution for this.

Rankings matter in every server, but for alot of people, it matters a TON on Yellonde, therefor making a rankings ban justifiable.

[Vieny]

This is just logic thinking, and I’d like to see a reasonable way of thinking the other way, that this is supposed to happen.

Just skim read through your post, although i'm not saying I disagree with most of what your saying, it just doesn't matter how logical or smart your post is. In ms people will stick with their friends in 95% of the issues regardless of what it is.


In this case, even if you do prove its a glitch its not gonna change anything. imo its pointless.

[Nikkey]

Just skim read through your post, although i'm not saying I disagree with most of what your saying, it just doesn't matter how logical or smart your post is. In ms people will stick with their friends in 95% of the issues regardless of what it is.


In this case, even if you do prove its a glitch its not gonna change anything. imo its pointless.

That's what I didn't. I said that it's not up to us to decide if it's a glitch or not, but Nexon's. Since we are not Nexon, and Nexon haven't set up an official statement, we can only assume if it is a glitch or not.

[Mudkip]

how is this a glicth? BF is a boss.... just a monster that can be poisoned and since its a monster and NOT a boss, it can also be shadow webbed, i've seen vid of people killing those gollem in GPQ, no one came up their ass about it >_>.

[Nikkey]

how is this a glicth? BF is a boss.... just a monster that can be poisoned and since its a monster and NOT a boss, it can also be shadow webbed, i've seen vid of people killing those gollem in GPQ, no one came up their ass about it >_>.

Then which monster is the new boss that came out with CWK?

[Vieny]

That's what I didn't. I said that it's not up to us to decide if it's a glitch or not, but Nexon's. Since we are not Nexon, and Nexon haven't set up an official statement, we can only assume if it is a glitch or not.

my mistake, but the point I was trying to make still stands. Even if Nexon says its a glitch, the players will continue to abuse it without a care in the world until either a GM mass bans or they patch it up. We all know how good they are at doing either one of those. ex:opq/apple glitch

[Valarius]

It's a monster and not a boss because Nexon clearly forgot to set the boss flag up on the data.

2.66m EXP is not normal for an average "monster".

[Aggrovated]

Congratulations sekrit on level 122.

[Conciente]

Congratulations sekrit on level 122.
... and Eyrod on level 123.

[Thunda]

It's funny how I haven't seen anyone except a few Mardians (who mostly happen to be from Eternity) speak up in favor of this manipulation.

Disclaimer: Not that I have anything against Mardians in general.

[Milelke]

1. This is Nexon were taking about
2. OF COURSE ITS A GLITCH! Why would nexon purposoley make a posionable/shadow webbable monster IN YELLONDE? It would mess up the rankings!

[Beaner]

i would like to point out to those saying "its not a glitch" how come snipe doesnt work on it? it it was a normal monster i could just 1hko it insteadof dcing. its obv to the most obtuse human being that bf is glitched as hell. get over yourself and admit you are abusing a glitch.

[wobbufet]

It's funny how I haven't seen anyone except a few Mardians (who mostly happen to be from Eternity) speak up in favor of this manipulation.

Disclaimer: Not that I have anything against Mardians in general.

I do. And I'm not mardian nor from yellonde.

[Blankout]

I'm happy this thread hasn't yet turned into the drama that SW has.

[Milelke]

Lol, I just went over there, it was mindless jibber jabber and a giant flame war...

SP, is for intellegient discussion, without stupid poeple coming and making retarded posts >_>...


@xBish

BEST POINT EVER!
If it was a suppose to be like that...

Why does it have so much Hp?
Why does it give so much Exp?
Why cant other skills work on it?

[Aggrovated]

Why does it have so much Hp? Because Nexon made it that way.
Why does it give so much Exp? Because Nexon made it that way.
Why cant other skills work on it? Other skills do work on it.

Bold.


My opinion on this subject.

Bigfoot is a boss-like monster like Gatekeeper and Thanatos (both can be poisoned, stunned etc).

They have the possibility to get banned because they are abusing this boss-like monster.

[Blankout]

Bold.


My opinion on this subject.

Bigfoot is a boss-like monster like Gatekeeper and Thanatos (both can be poisoned, stunned etc).

They have the possibility to get banned because they are abusing this boss-like monster.

But the HP and exp Gatekeeper and Thanatos have are around the same as regular monsters their level.

[Beaner]

Bold.


My opinion on this subject.

Bigfoot is a boss-like monster like Gatekeeper and Thanatos (both can be poisoned, stunned etc).

They have the possibility to get banned because they are abusing this boss-like monster.

it is not a boss like monster its a boss that they forgot to put the boss flag on. GK and thanatos were never boss like monsters, just high leveled mosters. they hava relatively normal hp for their level. bosses ont he other hand have huge amounts of hp compared to other monsters. bf is a boss, a boss that is glitched

[Darkning]

Well said, and well pointed, Carlos.

It's pointless for us to argue whether its a glitch or not anyways, our debating isn't changing the fact. Instead we need to be logging tickets that it be fixed and everyone who abused the availability of this issue be punished(possibly a loss of experience equal to that which they gained from the boss thus far).
(Sure, I killed one semi-using Shadow Web, only to test the functionality of it [but testing new content in a new area with my skills compared to obviously knowing it was an unfair advantage is a clear contrast].)

I think its more of a screwup by Nexon than a 'glitch' as we so call it. The boss himself is totally functional despite the fact that Nexon screwed up. Regardless, this is a boss and you can't argue that, even if the data flag says otherwise.

[Beaner]

the boss do have another glitch, it shares the same kb problem as bodyguard b that makes it invincible when its doing kb animation.

[Aggrovated]

Well said, and well pointed, Carlos.

It's pointless for us to argue whether its a glitch or not anyways, our debating isn't changing the fact. Instead we need to be logging tickets that it be fixed and everyone who abused the availability of this issue be punished(possibly a loss of experience equal to that which they gained from the boss thus far).
(Sure, I killed one semi-using Shadow Web, only to test the functionality of it [but testing new content in a new area with my skills compared to obviously knowing it was an unfair advantage is a clear contrast].)

I think its more of a screwup by Nexon than a 'glitch' as we so call it. The boss himself is totally functional despite the fact that Nexon screwed up. Regardless, this is a boss and you can't argue that, even if the data flag says otherwise.

Nexon does some crazy shit sometimes. Like adding broken monsters/quests. It'll end up being dealt with in one way or another.

[Cactuar]

how come snipe doesnt work on it? it it was a normal monster i could just 1hko it insteadof dcing.

Snipe has the same problem as Pierce. It may SAY you're doing 99,999 but you're actually doing it's HP in damage. Any damage over 150k D/Cs you, remember? BF has 32m HP.

[Beaner]

the damage cap is 200k but i get what you say. i guess its time to raise the dmg cap to 33mill hp

[xLeviathan]

I don't see why it's a favorable thing to some of you, a GM has already announced it as a glitch, it's not gonna change and it's not up for debate.

Now, if you wanna fight, go for it, but it's going to change shit, so just stop whining and fighting about it.

[Lobster]

Well said, and well pointed, Carlos.

It's pointless for us to argue whether its a glitch or not anyways, our debating isn't changing the fact. Instead we need to be logging tickets that it be fixed and everyone who abused the availability of this issue be punished(possibly a loss of experience equal to that which they gained from the boss thus far).
(Sure, I killed one semi-using Shadow Web, only to test the functionality of it [but testing new content in a new area with my skills compared to obviously knowing it was an unfair advantage is a clear contrast].)

I think its more of a screwup by Nexon than a 'glitch' as we so call it. The boss himself is totally functional despite the fact that Nexon screwed up. Regardless, this is a boss and you can't argue that, even if the data flag says otherwise.

When I reported it, the ticket was closed with no responce. Last time I reported something and got no responce, nothing was done... Even an automated message is better than nothing, so nexon didn't do too good on that one.

[TomasLuther]

how is this a glicth? BF is a boss.... just a monster that can be poisoned and since its a monster and NOT a boss, it can also be shadow webbed, i've seen vid of people killing those gollem in GPQ, no one came up their ass about it >_>.

There are a few differences by using Shadow Web for killing Bigfoot and killing the GPQ golems

1.- If you use Shadow web in the GPQ golems, you take their HP to 1, and then it's almost imposible to kill them because of the 999 avoid.
2.- Only way i found to kill them was with Power guard, and guess what... By killing 1 golem you die too.
3.- They give the amazing amount of 0 exp. A little difference comparing it with the 2.6 Mill that BF gives don't you think?

[tau]

I don't see why it's a favorable thing to some of you, a GM has already announced it as a glitch, it's not gonna change and it's not up for debate.

Now, if you wanna fight, go for it, but it's going to change shit, so just stop whining and fighting about it.

When did a GM announce it was a glitch? If I remember correctly, all Tiara said was that glitchers would be banned. She never specified what exactly the glitch was. Stop making assumptions.

[Blankout]

When did a GM announce it was a glitch? If I remember correctly, all Tiara said was that glitchers would be banned. She never specified what exactly the glitch was. Stop making assumptions.

She did say "glitch your way to the top". And the only glitch right now that can get you to the top? Bigfoot.

[xDae]

When did a GM announce it was a glitch? If I remember correctly, all Tiara said was that glitchers would be banned. She never specified what exactly the glitch was. Stop making assumptions.
You, Jaces and Eyrod all have your heads up your ass. If you really cant see that what you are doing is abusing a glitch, then there is no helping you.

[Crescendolls]

You, Jaces and Eyrod all have your heads up your ass. If you really cant see that what you are doing is abusing a glitch, then there is no helping you.

I didn't know having differing opinions of what is and what is not a glitch automatically makes you narcissistic.

It's funny because no matter how many forums complainers lock down or threads they make.. none of the so-called "glitchers" will ever stop nor think what they are doing is wrong. So you're really just digging yourself deeper. Instead of whining about them, you could try training "legitimately" and pass them yourselves.

[Sora]

You, Jaces and Eyrod all have your heads up your ass. If you really cant see that what you are doing is abusing a glitch, then there is no helping you.

Instead of getting all hot-headed, cursing us out and saying "there's no help for us", maybe you should try to understand both sides of the argument before saying we "have our heads up our asses". You're not solving anything by doing so.

[IsaacGS]

this thread has one more chance to stay civil before it gets locked.
Do with that information what you will.

[Haiku]

I didn't know having differing opinions of what is and what is not a glitch automatically makes you narcissistic.

It's funny because no matter how many forums complainers lock down or threads they make.. none of the so-called "glitchers" will ever stop nor think what they are doing is wrong. So you're really just digging yourself deeper. Instead of whining about them, you could try training "legitimately" and pass them yourselves.

That's the problem. There isn't a way to "legitimately" beat out that kind of exp rate, especially when they've already gotten ahead and put some pretty good distance between themselves and the highest "legitimate" levelers. Even less so are they able to obtain that kind of exp in a new server for some fairly obvious reasons.

You're right though, no matter how many people argue whether it's right or wrong, it's not like it has any real (desirable) effects on the ones doing it; the only thing that does is give them more and more attention. Isn't that a pretty good sized part of what "being number one" is all about in the first place? Haven't we given them enough of our attention yet?

[Crescendolls]

That's the problem. There isn't a way to "legitimately" beat out that kind of exp rate, especially when they've already gotten ahead and put some pretty good distance between themselves and the highest "legitimate" levelers. Even less so are they able to obtain that kind of exp in a new server for some fairly obvious reasons.
Talking about EXP rates is unfair in itself. Prior to the hermits, the priests had a battle of the how-many-EXP-cards. The hermits are not going to "glitch" forever, so of course it's possible to pass them; it'll just take longer. However, the funniest part of this is that 99% of the people whining about the "glitchers" would never pass them even if they trained "legitimately." They all got to 70 in four or less days to be able to even get Shadow Web. Most of the "glitchers" are previously high-leveled Mardians who have already been in the top ranks, so they've already proved themselves capable.

[Milelke]

Talking about EXP rates is unfair in itself. Prior to the hermits, the priests had a battle of the how-many-EXP-cards. The hermits are not going to "glitch" forever, so of course it's possible to pass them; it'll just take longer. However, the funniest part of this is that 99% of the people whining about the "glitchers" would never pass them even if they trained "legitimately." They all got to 70 in four or less days to be able to even get Shadow Web. Most of the "glitchers" are previously high-leveled Mardians who have already been in the top ranks, so they've already proved themselves capable.

THATS THE DAMN POINT WERE GETTING TO HERE! /uncivilazed

These top mardians I believe are from eternity right? because if so I don't want to hear anything about it. (If you're an eternity lover, there's no point arguing with you)

They got there because of theyre 4x exp, and then to where they are by gltiching, please if it was normal exp with no events and no glitch, theyd be just like ever other low lvled person >_>.

[Colyo]

In summary, they owned everyone and theres nothing anyone is/can do about it. The crappy truth at its crappiest hour.

[Milelke]

Im going to stop arguing, becuase you know whats funny?

1 of these things is going to happen first


1. Nexon fixes the glitch and starts swinging its ban hammer
2. Nexon doesn't fix the glitch but swings the banhammer anyway.
3. These top Yellondians get Bored and Quit
4. They quit when 3 weeks is up
5. They quit when bigfoot only gives them somthing along the lines of .01-1%

If none of that happens

1. They wont be recognized for theyre top ranks, infact theyd be more disliked.
2. Yellondians riot against Eternity telling them to go mess up theyre own server.
(Massive Ksing against Eternity Members)

[Crescendolls]

THATS THE DAMN POINT WERE GETTING TO HERE! /uncivilazed

These top mardians I believe are from eternity right? because if so I don't want to hear anything about it. (If you're an eternity lover, there's no point arguing with you)

They got there because of theyre 4x exp, and then to where they are by gltiching, please if it was normal exp with no events and no glitch, theyd be just like ever other low lvled person >_>.
Perhaps you should try re-reading the statement you bolded, because I don't believe you comprehended it. Bringing up 4X in an attempt to make their training worth any less is pointless. Every single person who's been in the top ranks since 2X EXP cards were released is there because of said 2X EXP cards. All the priests abused their cards. Every single player in the old top 20, aside from PresentsX, had 3 or more cards. The former (before the "glitchers") top 5 all had max 2X cards. All the "glitching" hermits were in the top 40 or so, considering they got to level 70 without "glitching" in less than four days. Also, HAHAHAHAHA at saying they'd be just like everybody else. Eyrod has a 15x Mardian character. sekrit was in Mardia's top 5 for several weeks (until he quit) and has several fourth job characters (12x I/L Mage, 16x Night Lord, 12x Night Lord). Lanny was in the top 5 Chief Bandits consistently for the first 6 months of Mardia (until he quit). Rayok has a 14x Shadower and was also in the top Chief Bandits in Mardia. Don't make assumptions in subjects you have no knowledge about.

[Milelke]

And youre trying to tell me all those poeple your talking about didnt use 2x Cards, oh and dont forget that how old mardia is, its almost been a year >_>.

Either way they are glitching regardless of what they did before they started glitching.

[Crescendolls]

And youre trying to tell me all those poeple your talking about didnt use 2x Cards
When did I ever say that?

[Milelke]

You did not, but im automatically implying it becuase they have acsess to NX.

Nothign Is wrong with 2x exp, there are legit grinders who dont use 2x exp who have actually gotten past what I call "spoiled" grinders. (People who use 2x exp)

[Skylicious]

Spoiled? 2x is accessible to everyone as well not only Hermits and FP's.

[Crescendolls]

You did not, but im automatically implying it becuase they have acsess to NX.

Nothign Is wrong with 2x exp, there are legit grinders who dont use 2x exp who have actually gotten past what I call "spoiled" grinders. (People who use 2x exp)

2x EXP has nothing to do with Bigfoot "glitching" whatsoever, so I'm not sure why you're bringing it up to discredit them. I suppose there might be grinders without 2x, but I can't say I ever heard of any because they're so far down the ranks.

[Strawberries]

The thread's not gonna last on where it's going with it being off topic from the so called hermits glitching and how uncivil it is, so here's my lame input for everything.

Moreso yet, I still don't get why Milelke can't understand that these guys are capable of being in the top even without glitching as Crescendolls tried to explain. & so you know, Mardia's been out for way over a year now. Make it just about 1.5 years.

Anywho for the whole glitching topic; it really doesn't matter everyone's opinions are different and by the time if anything does happen if they don't get banned, everyone's just gonna leave it alone as it's already in the gray area like lots of other cases such as say for an example, Failure9 incident in Kradia and a bunch of others I could list if I had to think about it.

[Milelke]

-Since Strawberries is pretty much 100% Right, I will rest my case-
-Im tireds right now, so im not thinking clearly -__-

[Crescendolls]

I'm sure the mods appreciate the fact that you don't want to get a warning by "flaming" me, but rambling on incoherently about 2x EXP cards in a thread about glitching isn't too helpful either.

[Skylicious]

Im talking about the cards.


I was talking about the cards too, y so slow.

[Milelke]

I was talking about the cards too, y so slow.

This will be my last point before I log off.

You are wrong, not everybody has acsses (at least not immediate) to NX, even if, not everybody wants to use them.

[Skylicious]

This will be my last point before I log off.

You are wrong, not everybody has acsses (at least not immediate) to NX, even if, not everybody wants to use them.

EVERYONE has access to the Cash Shop. Therefore EVERYONE has access to 2x cards. Wanting to use them or not is up to every individual but don't bring that in this argument since it's irrelevant to the point that I'm trying to prove.

[Strawberries]

Ryan, you are truly not comprehending his post.

Not everyone has access to NX you know. Living out of North America for example, paypal, bank, money, work? That's not accessible everywhere, really. There's things you gotta be a certain age to do and then there's the thing with parents. & they way you said it, is different. Cash shop, yes, everyone has access to it, but NX, no.

[Haiku]

Ohhh yeah this is getting locked soon. `-` Tone it down on the flames & offtopic?

Talking about exp rates is unfair? Oh please. The majority of the top 300 has 4x, and I've managed to stay in the 150-250 range without it (til very recently; 270ish I think? Been busy the past 2-3 days helping paranoid mum get ready for Faye, lol), and only about the top ~50 are 70+. I'm a player who can't buy NX, a perfect example of Strawberries' statement. Will I ever be number one? Hell no, I'd burn out if I tried and have to take a break; even if I could I wouldn't want the attention. Have I reached 4th job & beyond without it, and can/will I do it again? Of course. First time's always the hardest, mirite? Not everyone's a whiner tbh.

The "whiners" may not have been able to pass the BFers, but many of them sure as hell could have passed some of the leechers and they do lose ranks because of them. For a lot of people, that kills their motivation. I couldn't care less about the drama & who BFs and who doesn't, but when people can't shut the pineapple up about it long enough to play the damn game (yes, that IS what maple is), that bothers me. It bothers a lot of other players as well. If I were to quit Yellonde, that would be why. Personally I think BF is "broken", but it's not like there aren't already other things that "break" the game (maybe not as extreme).

Any simple solution they impose to satisfy the majority will have negative effects anyway. Ban them all? Nah, they couldn't get every BFer/leecher even if they wanted to. Lower the exp/increase spawn time/boss flag it? Not enough people would kill it for the maps to be trainable for lower levels & that makes getting the Star harder as well. The only way to "fix" it would be to implement a change to BF that makes it not so farmable without making it harder to get the Star (like making it an instance map), and rollback Yellonde's exp. D'you realize how many people would be extremely pissed at Nexon if they did that? Very few people really care about what's best for the game. They just want what they want, and nothing/no one else matters. This is why you nabz aren't in charge. :B

lol3ampost. Have at me.
Edit: oh 'n before someone says "lolz y u no go 2 target??" there isn't one here and there are no other stores here that sell NX cards.

[Skylicious]

Ryan, you are truly not comprehending his post.

Not everyone has access to NX you know. Living out of North America for example, paypal, bank, money, work? That's not accessible everywhere, really. There's things you gotta be a certain age to do and then there's the thing with parents. & they way you said it, is different. Cash shop, yes, everyone has access to it, but NX, no.

If someone has an internet connection and a computer to play Maple, I smell money and work around it. It might be the person playing Maple or not but even then, 2x being present in a Cash shop accessible by ALL of Maplestory's community (Even off ranked players). A person may not be able to use Paypal but PayByCash is there for everyone to use as well. Not only that but a player can also come across a neat person who'd end up GIFTING, yes gifting is another means to get things out of the Cash shop. Also, if all those means just aren't enough...there's always the 'legit' B>NX w/meso way.

You guys are just trying too hard.

o and whoru.

[Nikkey]

A simple translation of a person that I was talking to on another forum:


I was with a GM yesterday and checked them out :D

They'll be banned when the 2x (read: 2x event) is finished, 9th of September or around that date.

So, if this guy is correct, the GMs will ban them around that time. No confirmation of this, however, as I don't really know this guy well and can't tell if he lies or not. Though, this backs up that the Bigfoot leveling is a glitch.

[JHunz]

A simple translation of a person that I was talking to on another forum:



So, if this guy is correct, the GMs will ban them around that time. No confirmation of this, however, as I don't really know this guy well and can't tell if he lies or not. Though, this backs up that the Bigfoot leveling is a glitch.
A paraphrasing of a post on another forum that claims that a GM informed them who they would be banning in the future (but not now for some reason) without a shred of proof?
That is possibly the least credible source I have ever seen.

[xLeviathan]

*Still confused on why it's being debated*.

Fersure.

[Derimed]

Having seen the glitch in action, I have to reverse my position earlier in this thread.

While the boss is being killed with legitimate skills, there is no way this is somehow a natural thing they had planned on purpose. F/P is usually considered the least desirable mage class, but people have made F/Ps for the sole reason of exploiting this situation. And I mean, I know people love hermits, but this is a bit much. This is like the OPQ glitch on steroids.

A boss that yields this much XP in so little time breaks the game. If they don't patch it, it will completely unbalance the game, and if they patch it and leave ranks as is, the top ranks in the newer servers will be completely filled with glitchers. On Yellonde, my guild master is a lvl 77 i/l, and she reports having trained for roughly 18-20 hours a day for the past week of 2x/4x xp. This should tell you something about the people on that server that are like lvl 123 after that same week. Lvl 123 after a week of legit leveling is most likely NOT be possible, even if 4x is put into the equation. How, then, can people take lvl 123 after one week and justify it as somehow "legitimate?" This is a MMORPG, not a console game with Game Shark plugged in.

[Nikkey]

A paraphrasing of a post on another forum that claims that a GM informed them who they would be banning in the future (but not now for some reason) without a shred of proof?
That is possibly the least credible source I have ever seen.

This happened during a GM event, from what I understood, where a lot of people asked when the "glitchers" was going to be banned.

I would doubt them at any given time if the GM just came up and said they'd be banned, lol.

(Oh and yeah, I've asked for proof, but this is the casual player-type, playing once every 3 days or so.)

[Crescendolls]

For some reason I can't imagine Nexon banning players for poisoning Bigfoot when they never even stated it was against the rules, but hey, you never know.

[xDae]

For some reason I can't imagine Nexon banning players for poisoning Bigfoot when they never even stated it was against the rules, but hey, you never know.
Then never stated gOPQ was against the rules. They never stated Diamond Glitching was against the rules. But they still banned people and patched the game.

Exploiting any flaws in game design is a bannable offense


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[Milelke]

Having seen the glitch in action, I have to reverse my position earlier in this thread.

While the boss is being killed with legitimate skills, there is no way this is somehow a natural thing they had planned on purpose. F/P is usually considered the least desirable mage class, but people have made F/Ps for the sole reason of exploiting this situation. And I mean, I know people love hermits, but this is a bit much. This is like the OPQ glitch on steroids.

A boss that yields this much XP in so little time breaks the game. If they don't patch it, it will completely unbalance the game, and if they patch it and leave ranks as is, the top ranks in the newer servers will be completely filled with glitchers. On Yellonde, my guild master is a lvl 77 i/l, and she reports having trained for roughly 18-20 hours a day for the past week of 2x/4x xp. This should tell you something about the people on that server that are like lvl 123 after that same week. Lvl 123 after a week of legit leveling is most likely NOT be possible, even if 4x is put into the equation. How, then, can people take lvl 123 after one week and justify it as somehow "legitimate?" This is a MMORPG, not a console game with Game Shark plugged in.

Oooh, smartest point yet :D.
See guys,
1. It IS a glitch, dont deny it >_>.
2. It is impossible, even with 4x exp and the occasional 8x to get to lvl 12x in a week, IMPOSSIBLE! (Well unless you play 24/7)

As Is said before.

1. Glitching is Glitching, Regardless the excuse.
2. It's a bannable offense.

[Haiku]

http://maplestory.nexon.net/WZ.ASPX?PART=/News/Notice&mode=view&uid=347&bbsidx=3255&cat=1

/thread

[XandriaRain]

Big Foot Glitch Abuse


2008.08.21 View : 357



Attention Maplers,



We have received many reports from fellow players regarding the Big Foot glitch. It is indeed a glitch and we are working on fixing the error. We would like to remind you that knowingly abusing a glitch to one?s own advantage is not something we tolerate. Those caught abusing the Big Foot glitch will be punished and those who have already knowingly abused it will be dealt with.



We would like to thank all those who reported this serious issue. Your care for the MapleStory game community is greatly appreciated.






We apologize for this inconvenience

its a glitch

[godofturtles]

Good, I was wrong but it was still interesting to consider the fact that nexon was indeed testing something to see how it would affect the game. I never ruled out that it was glitch, but there was still the possiblity that Nexon was doing this as a test. The immediate effects were insane, but things did die down a lot even though some lucky ppl still found a few bigfoots an hour.

[Kranzorbaken]

*Still confused on why it's being debated*.

Fersure.

why dont we just wait till we see what nexon says and does?
lol but hey w/e
well like i mean we saw but ya know what i mean

[Vieny]

A paraphrasing of a post on another forum that claims that a GM informed them who they would be banning in the future (but not now for some reason) without a shred of proof?
That is possibly the least credible source I have ever seen.

I would have thought so too, but with this comment, not anymore.

Those caught abusing the Big Foot glitch will be punished and those who have already knowingly abused it will be dealt with.


Nexon's probably trying to rape the shit out of those players in terms of $, after all the server did just open. When they're done getting their $ they'll ban.

[xLeviathan]

why dont we just wait till we see what nexon says and does?
lol but hey w/e
well like i mean we saw but ya know what i mean

Ok, done.
Woo.
I hope the glitchers get what they deserve.
T_T;

/thread :D