[1.2.302] Hello, Pirate?

[Fiel]

Forgive me for the idle speculation here.

I'm still pretty unsure whether the next class will be a pirate class, but there's some evidence that point toward this conclusion, namely the new cash shop items added in this patch which all have a pirate theme. Similar to how Evan and Aran had their items introduced before their classes were fully revealed, the same is happening here with the Hawkeye items.

Another interesting turn of events is how they changed the Shammos PQ mobs. They all now have a flag set called "noDoom" which suggests that priests cannot use doom on these mobs. I do ask - why? This PQ is really meant for those 70 - 90, and it's rare that any priest would get Doom in those levels favoring Shining Ray, Holy Symbol, and Dispel.



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[seal133]

nobody needs another pirate... unless it will be totaly diffrent from buccs.


(and the no doom thingy sounds so silly... maybe its a start for more upcoming flags?)

[Link]

Hawkeye uniform! That's what it looks like. lol

[JoeTang]

Hawkeye's a pimp.

[Link]

I just thought of something --- They might be releasing Cygnus themed Cash Shop items like JapanMS did with the Cygnus NPC weapons.

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[Fiel]

Those have already been included in KMS and KMST. So this is something different.

[Avior]

i so knew its pirate ~

[Link]

Eh... I'm not going to hold this as proof. Until we actually see more data that can confirm it, there's no point in getting too excited.

[Stephen]

just another job for the 'big' march update?
i really hope not.

[Solarboy]

Oh great, now we can all look like hyperhooper :D.....

But I think we wont have a "BIG" march update

[Takebacker]

That would probably be the most random order of class releases ever, but since it's a pirate i'm obligated not to care and instead demand MOAR.

[Link]

That would probably be the most random order of class releases ever, but since it's a pirate i'm obligated not to care and instead demand MOAR.

I just want that uniform, being a Pirate and all. :f3: Either way, I don't think this "Pirate" would be one of the legends, if it's a Pirate themed class. Didn't Nexon Korea say they have two more non-Legend classes prepared?

[finalbragade]

Shouldn't they improve the pirate class (Vipers specifically) they already have first before releasing a new one :f6:

seems like they looked at Buccs and just went... fuck it we'll just make a new one...

[Takebacker]

I just want that uniform, being a Pirate and all. :f3: Either way, I don't think this "Pirate" would be one of the legends, if it's a Pirate themed class. Didn't Nexon Korea say they have two more non-Legend classes prepared?

There's still a fair chance that the legend class will be black mage related. Doesn't necessarily have to be legend.


Shouldn't they improve the pirate class (Vipers specifically) they already have first before releasing a new one :f6:

seems like they looked at Buccs and just went... pineapple it we'll just make a new one...

I wouldn't mind making a 2nd buccaneer. Assuming it's a buccaneer.

[Hotshot]

Lol they're adding pirates before archer. Watch them make theif/pirate legends before archer legends too. If it's something fun to play with though, I look forward to it. There might not be a ton to do at level 160+ in terms of variety, but there is no shortage of game to play for level 1-150 or so, so stop trying to powerlevel every class and just have some fun playing through the game next time.

[Chameleonic]

I think some of the skills sound like ones for a Pirtate too.

TripleBlow/QuadBlow/DeathBlow/FinishAttack sound like a knuckle skills.
Cyclone sounds like a spinning knucle move.
DarkSpear sounds like you throw a Harpoon or something.

[Takebacker]

Just because it's a pirate doesn't mean it has to use guns or knuckles.

[Sarah]

Time to see if they make a crappy story or use the already good and ready Testonen story.

[Spideyjvc]

I think some of the skills sound like ones for a Pirtate too.

TripleBlow/QuadBlow/DeathBlow/FinishAttack sound like a knuckle skills.
Cyclone sounds like a spinning knucle move.
DarkSpear sounds like you throw a Harpoon or something.

Those can fit easily with a gun as well, and there's "lazergun"
I wouldn't rely too much on the names we have so far for the delays.

[Takebacker]

Lex's HP is 3m now, btw.

Also, the PQ seems to be 70+, so that would explain the "noDoom". Dooming the goblin would likely result in the PQ being impossible to complete.

[SwordStaker]

Lex's HP is 3m now, btw.

Also, the PQ seems to be 70+, so that would explain the "noDoom". Dooming the goblin would likely result in the PQ being impossible to complete.
Great thats just what we need. A impossible PQ.

[Chuey]

Accuracy and Avoid is now based on percents too (but on all items, apparently). This is... oh god... I don't know what it is. But I'm smiling right now.

[¬Rob]

Great thats just what we need. A impossible PQ.

An*
&The 'noDoom' thing fixed it from being impossible, if you read that correctly.

@New CS set; ..No thanks, don't want to look like an NPC.

[Solarboy]

Accuracy and Avoid is now based on percents too (but on all items, apparently). This is... oh god... I don't know what it is. But I'm smiling right now.

*v*

*sniff*

Finally they do something great :D

[Corn]

Accuracy and Avoid is now based on percents too (but on all items, apparently). This is... oh god... I don't know what it is. But I'm smiling right now.

Where is this from? :f6:

[Chameleonic]

Check out Spadows blog. http://spadow.wordpress.com/

[Link]

Holy crap. Accuracy AND Avoidability on all equips changed to percentage based!? We're now going to see warriors and Vipers with over 300 accuracy EASILY.

[Locked]

Check out Spadows blog. http://spadow.wordpress.com/

I don't like this % garbage.

[Pinkachoo]

I actually don't like the new % based stats...
Hopefully the acc/avoid boosts stay below the 5% range.

Also, wouldn't this completely screw over dexless warriors?
If you have low acc to begin with, you would want accuracy equips. But if they give a set %, they become useless, no?

[Baklava]

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I actually don't like the new % based stats...
Hopefully the acc/avoid boosts stay below the 5% range.

Also, wouldn't this completely screw over dexless warriors?
If you have low acc to begin with, you would want accuracy equips. But if they give a set %, they become useless, no?

Nexon is trying to promote not being statless damage whores.
Kills the game when everyone is a Lv200 hero/night lord/bowmaster with lv30 equips.

[Phoenix]

Nexon is trying to promote not being statless damage whores.
Kills the game when everyone is a Lv200 hero/night lord/bowmaster with lv30 equips.

Except Warriors never lose the benefit of using higher level equips while being dexless. So really there was no point in the past to pumping more dex, since there was a massive amount of accuracy coming from other sources. I personally had 191 accuracy clean with 25 base dex x_X

[Baklava]

Except Warriors never lose the benefit of using higher level equips while being dexless. So really there was no point in the past to pumping more dex, since there was a massive amount of accuracy coming from other sources. I personally had 191 accuracy clean with 25 base dex x_X

Yeah but they never USE those high level equips when all they need is a Lv30 dragon robe/chainmail, snowshoes, work gloves, spiegelman, and a zhelm..
Nobody cares about how much DEX you can pump up with minimal base.

Who knows, maybe they'll make higher leveled warrior equips have insane increments of accuracy? People complain too much about things they don't even know the half of.

[Pinkachoo]

Except Warriors never lose the benefit of using higher level equips while being dexless. So really there was no point in the past to pumping more dex, since there was a massive amount of accuracy coming from other sources. I personally had 191 accuracy clean with 25 base dex x_X

Exactly.
Fixing other classes being statless might be different... But for warriors, one could either choose dex or accuracy equips, with the ultimate goal being a high amount of accuracy anyways. :f6:
Now would this leave only the dex path open?

[Phoenix]

Yeah but they never USE those high level equips when all they need is a Lv30 dragon robe/chainmail, snowshoes, work gloves, spiegelman, and a zhelm..
Nobody cares about how much DEX you can pump up with minimal base.

Who knows, maybe they'll make higher leveled warrior equips have insane increments of accuracy? People complain too much about things they don't even know the half of.

Everyone uses BWG/SCG that won;t change even with this.

And any warrior that actually cares enough to upgrade their equips either has a lvl 90+ top-str/dex-bot set or a lvl 80/120 overall for str. This whole chainmail for dex thing is so 3 years ago, and really only used by people with minimal funds. I've been using my top/bot set for over 2 years.

It really would affect unfunded people more than funded. Since scrolling for acc was always the easy way out, as opposed to dex. Now that's not even the case.

[hyperhopper]

WOOOO MORE PIRATES! YA!







oh great, now we can all look like hyperhooper :D.....



I K R! I was like this waay before the trend started =D

[Solarboy]

WOOOO MORE PIRATES! YA!



Oh hello there hyperho..................

Oh well, everyone deserves a second chance. Welcome back

OT: Im begining to think that all the acc and avoid is % now?? Like, instead of having 100 acc, you have umm 40% chance of hitting, enemies lower it and stuff.

So yeah, maybe the "BIG" update is changing a lot of the game mechanics

[Infection]

Pfft. This isn't high-level content.

[Schrono]

Hopefully they'll change hp scrolls to give a % increase as well (something like 3, 6, and 12% for 100, 60 and 10% scrolls respectively).

[Alloy]

noDoom flag... Well,is it 100% it relates to the Doom skill? Maybe it's meaning something else, like, cannot die in one hit, or the likes.

EDIT: Nevermind, I never was aware of that "impossible pq" glitch. What was that about?

[Manu]

Hopefully they'll change hp scrolls to give a % increase as well (something like 3, 6, and 12% for 100, 60 and 10% scrolls respectively).

Maybe 1,3,5% for 100/60/10, 12% is too much, that'd make an easy 50% extra HP, it's a lot.

[Takebacker]

If they were going to make % HP scrolls, it would be 1/2/3 respectively. Both 1/3/5 and 3/6/12 are too high. Do you want nexon to start making bosses that do 30k all around, and yet everyone lives?

[IllegallySane]

Hopefully they'll change hp scrolls to give a % increase as well (something like 3, 6, and 12% for 100, 60 and 10% scrolls respectively).

Gut instincts says no, because that means people won't pay so much NX for HP washing, but on the other hand if it DOES happen it makes it so any class is completely playable without needing to plan/invest heavily into NX. It'd make ranged classes have much less trouble bossing, and kMS developers can make tougher bosses to accomodate the fact both ranged and melee and mages will all die at roughly the same rate (ie 1/2/3 shotted).

[byakugan]

The problem with you guys is that you always think of the effects of these changes like they were being released in GMS right now and not KMS. This might be good for KMS where there are not BWG/SCG or all those common equips.

I have a question. does this mean that the accuracy and avoidability on any equip will increase YOUR BASE ACCURACY AND AVOID on a X%?. Like, if you have 100 acc and a zakum helmet, the zak helm would increase that accuracy by 20%, giving you 20 accuracy points extra?

Even for warriors I find it fine. but for those thielves with avoidability items, they are now going to be untouchable O.o

[Holypie]

but for those thielves with avoidability items, they are now going to be untouchable O.o

Pure dex Buccaneer. My level 30 one has ~250 avoid. Well it's ridiculous for a level 30.

[IllegallySane]

Pure dex Buccaneer. My level 30 one has ~250 avoid. Well it's ridiculous for a level 30.

Except it can't do damage worth a damn, but Pirates are definitely going to be quite up there with everyone one who's ranged, since they also tend to have high avoid. Mages are going to be dead last in avoid, with Warriors a trailing 2nd.

[Takebacker]

Except it can't do damage worth a damn, but Pirates are definitely going to be quite up there with everyone one who's ranged, since they also tend to have high avoid. Mages are going to be dead last in avoid, with Warriors a trailing 2nd.

It doesn't have to. Dex brawlers' only real use is to either hit stuff or pin stuff. :f3:

[Alilatias]

Assuming the next class really is a Pirate... Archers get skipped over again. By PIRATES too.

The next Archer class better be freaking epic.

[Takebacker]

At this rate archers are slated for the worst job ever. :f3:

Come on? A pirate with revive? Doesn't make sense unless this pirate was also a mage.

[Shengz]

At this rate archers are slated for the worst job ever. :f3:

Come on? A pirate with revive? Doesn't make sense unless this pirate was also a mage.

maybe it's a self revive, if you die you can only revive yourself? There's too many party res's in the game x-x

BUT i do agree makes no sense unless they're skilled in magic like a mage as well lol

[Takebacker]

Oh yeah that was my thought on how it worked too. I was just kidding. :f3:

Revive sounds more like it would be for yourself, while resurrection sounds like it would be for more people. No real basis for this, though.

[JoeTang]

Judging by the stats that Spadow posted on his blog, it appears they've changed the Accuracy and Avoid formulas too or Dual Blades have a different, shittier formula than every other job.

[Tay]

Assuming the next class really is a Pirate... Archers get skipped over again. By PIRATES too.

The next Archer class better be freaking epic.

Ive noticed a pattern in their plans for heros, if this is a hero.

They started with Warrior (perion), and then Magician (elinnia), and now Pirate (nautilius).
If you take a look at the position of those towns, they are in order from north to south going east. So after Pirate we could assume Archer.

All of this is just random thinking, may or may not be true.

[ydk1990]

I hope so~

[ZakumSlaYers]

The current pirate is already a piece of shit, I won't create one just because of it's flashy skill :(

[Yotsuba]

That bump made me think this was a new extraction with hints to the mech class being a Pirate.

I am sad.

[Solarboy]

That bump made me think this was a new extraction with hints to the mech class being a Pirate.

I am sad.

Bumpers arent good ppl :(

I suggest that after 2 or 3 new extractions, the old threads get closed.

[KaidaTan]

That bump made me think this was a new extraction with hints to the mech class being a Pirate.

I am sad.
This.

[Rob]

That bump made me think this was a new extraction with hints to the mech class being a Pirate.

I am sad.

Yeah.