Elin Forest is whole Victoria Island?

[Darkfaith]

How it can be that Elin Forest have 5 monsters? at Victoria Island there is more then 40 monsters BUT in Elin Forest there is just 5 monsters (with out the PQ) and it need to be Victoria in the past

[viperxuat]

Uhh what? Can you rephrase all of that and make it easier to understand?

[Moti]

I'll keep this short...

Only the part of Ellinia is made. Referring to the main idea of "Past Victoria", it's not even 15% done.

[WiseAlon32]

is whole victoria a forest?
no....
so elin forest is not the whole victoria.

[Magus]

Uhh what? Can you rephrase all of that and make it easier to understand?
I understand it perfectly.
He's asking if the area "Elin Forest" (Which is apparently an area where you go back in time to prehistoric MS) is just Ellina or if it's all of Vic.

[Darkfaith]

I'll keep this short...

Only the part of Ellinia is made. Referring to the main idea of "Past Victoria", it's not even 15% done.

Well, so it not even done yet?

[Moti]

Well, so it not even done yet?

The Ellinia part is finished. They have "parts" of ancient Henesys, and they already made a base idea of ancient Perion being a forest. So yeah, only Ellinia is done.

[Rayquaza2233]

There's "Entrance to Boulder Mountain" and "Entrance to Mushroom Hill" maps, so no, the whole area is not complete.

[Slip]

There is a map in data that is not in Elin Forest.

So, no. Elin is NOT complete.

Heck, there are still countless bugs in the official version.

[Chompy]

All of perion is supposedly past forest soo...
I hope they keep MS canon.

[ItachiPower]

is whole victoria a forest?
no....
so elin forest is not the whole victoria.

Actually, I'm pretty sure an island would have a forest until people cut it down and lived in it..

[Spadow]

Elin Forest is not finalized, NPCs are not talking and like Slip said there is one map in the data not released. The unreleased map is the Basement.

They're working on the prehistoric Perion (Boulder Mountain) and Henesys (Mushroom Hill).

[randompeep]

It's called Boulder Mountain, so it seems like Perion was blown apart even then.

Mushroom Hill.... what would an ancient Mushmom look like?
This doesn't even detail Kerning or Sleepywood.

[Rain]

All of perion is supposedly past forest soo...
I hope they keep MS canon. I think perion is probably going to be past "Entrance to Boulder Mountain" and Henesys is probably going to be "Entrance to Mushroom Hill" I wonder what ancient kearning and lith is going to be like :glitter:

[Retalion]

I understand it perfectly.
He's asking if the area "Elin Forest" (Which is apparently an area where you go back in time to prehistoric MS) is just Ellina or if it's all of Vic.

So that's what he means! (cause I certainly didnt get that, lol >_>)

As others have said already, Elin Forest is not "complete" and that it'll have extensions.

As for monsters, as the surroundings change, species die out and others "invade". I guess that's what happened. It makes me wonder though, will these old places have quests connected to how current monsters came to be?

[IsaacGS]

So that's what he means! (cause I certainly didnt get that, lol >_>)

As others have said already, Elin Forest is not "complete" and that it'll have extensions.

As for monsters, as the surroundings change, species die out and others "invade". I guess that's what happened. It makes me wonder though, will these old places have quests connected to how current monsters came to be?
Not even the monster book passages talk about that sadly :X

[randompeep]

Also, they would also have to explain how the Ant Tunnel came to be, and what Sleepy looked like in the past. Would Perion also have the Sharenian at this time?

(Maybe in Masteria, the opposite happens. You go into the future!)

[silverquiver]

Also, they would also have to explain how the Ant Tunnel came to be, and what Sleepy looked like in the past. Would Perion also have the Sharenian at this time?

(Maybe in Masteria, the opposite happens. You go into the future!)

I think there was speculation that Elin Forest existed around the time of the Sharenian.(mainly because it contains what appears to be all four job instructors) Since there are no quests, therefore there is no storyline, no one can say.

[Erich]

kerning and lith wont exist, there both cement citys :O

and hmm ancient balorg?do want

[randompeep]

Wouldn't it be interesting if we got ancient Ossyria? or better yet, ancient Masteria, complete with Old Sappe Town!

[Erich]

Wouldn't it be interesting if we got ancient Ossyria? or better yet, ancient Masteria, complete with Old Sappe Town!

I second that, that would own :cool:
wonder what ancient magatia would be?

[Takebacker]

Don't we not know how far back ellin brings us? It'd have to be over 1000 years back for masteria to be there. Although if we could find out WHY masteria disappeared that'd be awesome. That'll probably be revealed as masteria expands in the present though.

[Erich]

olde sapp village vanished 100 years ago......

or was it 100?

[randompeep]

The Sharenian have been dead a long time. If they exist in Ellin Forest, then its perfectly possible for Masteria to exist then.

idk, I just want to see CWK in its heyday.

lol, i just thought, how long has the balrog been sealed down there?

[IsaacGS]

Don't we not know how far back ellin brings us? It'd have to be over 1000 years back for masteria to be there. Although if we could find out WHY masteria disappeared that'd be awesome. That'll probably be revealed as masteria expands in the present though.
Masteria is pretty much the only place that has a definitely timed past. It's 1,000 years since it sunk but that's all we know. Elin is an indeterminable amount of time in the past, though it's gotta be around the time the black magician ruled Ossyria. We don't know when Sharenian and all that happened so it's hard to say.

[Takebacker]

Masteria is pretty much the only place that has a definitely timed past. It's 1,000 years since it sunk but that's all we know. Elin is an indeterminable amount of time in the past, though it's gotta be around the time the black magician ruled Ossyria. We don't know when Sharenian and all that happened so it's hard to say.

Yup. I think it'll all be revealed in the next few expansions though. I'm interested to see sleepywood in the past. Hopefully past vic is a lot harder than it's present counterpart.

[randompeep]

I'm interested in the Ant Tunnel in particular.

like, What if the Balrog was stronger then than now? (i dunno, to old age? -.-) What could a prehistoric Wild Kargo look like? (same with Tarumacis, etc.)

But the biggest one, who the pineapple is Arcon? (remember Maya's quest to get medicine? You needed Arcon's Blood in one of them. Manji described Zombie Mushrooms as "mutants of Arcon".)
Whoever he/she/it is, Arcon seems to be very powerful.

note: I only remember that because of my 1x warrior.

[IsaacGS]

Yup. I think it'll all be revealed in the next few expansions though. I'm interested to see sleepywood in the past. Hopefully past vic is a lot harder than it's present counterpart.
Well, look at elin compared to Ellinia. I'd say that the stronger-than-present element will stick.

[Takebacker]

Well, look at elin compared to Ellinia. I'd say that the stronger-than-present element will stick.

I'm talking 120+ harder. :D

Ant tunnel and the sanctuary sounds promising thus far.

[Gearfree]

Well, look at elin compared to Ellinia. I'd say that the stronger-than-present element will stick.

While ya got the dungeons, you would figure they might have expansions leading to relevations on the societies that existed or were to be formed in the Henesys and Perion regions.

I wonder what happened to the societies that created the golems.
Its not likely that you would see dark golems, at least how we see them now.

Perhaps the ruins would still be abandoned, only with less damage due to the natural erosion that takes place over time.
Maybe we will see what the golems were created to protect?

[Erich]

my intrest is the golemn temple in henesys

[JezzaRules]

So if Boulder mountain was used to be where perion is and Mushroom Hill is where Henesys used 2 be then what would be where Kerning stands today? and what about lith harbor and sleepywood?.

Also do you reckon there would be a Sharenian civilisation too in Boulder Mountain?

[Gearfree]

So if Boulder mountain was used to be where perion is and Mushroom Hill is where Henesys used 2 be then what would be where Kerning stands today? and what about lith harbor and sleepywood?.

Also do you reckon there would be a Sharenian civilisation too in Boulder Mountain?

Well, I'm not sure exaclty, but doesn't the events of the Sharenian take place after this expedition?
His kingdom is the last that sees plants growing in the domain, so that would tell you how much foliage you might see..

Lith Harbour would be beaches most likely with lots of cliffs.
Henesys would be Prairies like it is currently, only with more overgrowth.
Kerning is in the middle of swamplands, but you might see a camp there.

Sleepywood, thats an interesting one, as there are ruins in the surrounding areas. Caves are also a possibility, much like Zakum, deep in there are caverns leading to a (un)holy alter.

[Moti]

Funny how this whole topic has turned into a "How cool would ancient xxxx be" discussion.
Anyway, I really have no clue about Kerning or Lith (probably won't even be included), but I would love to see ancient Perion, let alone Sleepywood and below.

[Baklava]

Well, I'm not sure exaclty, but doesn't the events of the Sharenian take place after this expedition?
His kingdom is the last that sees plants growing in the domain, so that would tell you how much foliage you might see..

Lith Harbour would be beaches most likely with lots of cliffs.
Henesys would be Prairies like it is currently, only with more overgrowth.
Kerning is in the middle of swamplands, but you might see a camp there.

Sleepywood, thats an interesting one, as there are ruins in the surrounding areas. Caves are also a possibility, much like Zakum, deep in there are caverns leading to a (un)holy alter.

During the Sharenian era, Sleepywood was a sanctuary, the ant tunnels were training grounds, and the cursed sanctuary was a blessed shrine or something.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the strongest monsters in victoria's past were in lith harbor. Haha.

[DumbApples]

During the Sharenian era, Sleepywood was a sanctuary, the ant tunnels were training grounds, and the cursed sanctuary was a blessed shrine or something.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the strongest monsters in victoria's past were in lith harbor. Haha.

No,that would be AWSOME.

[solid_ice8]

wow
jr rog the strongest in lith? :O

beginners would be like, praying "OH GOD ROG" cause they can't kill it no?

[Erich]

wow
jr rog the strongest in lith? :O

beginners would be like, praying "OH GOD ROG" cause they can't kill it no?

begginers wouldnt be there, were talking ancient lith

[Darkfaith]

Do you know something about the other town in the past of victoria?

[Lunare]

None of that information has been released yet. After reading this thread, I am extremely excited for this!!!

[JezzaRules]

Just thinking about giant snails, stumps and other prehistoric versions of the present weak monsters in Ellin forest, I'm guessing there'd be giant ligators and curse eyes in the kerning city/sleepywood area?

[randompeep]

Wild Kargoes are already very large, as are the Drakes, and what about the Ants that made the tunnels? There is no way a tunnel that big can be made by regular ants. (No matter how long a time it is.)

[Erich]

Wild Kargoes are already very large, as are the Drakes, and what about the Ants that made the tunnels? There is no way a tunnel that big can be made by regular ants. (No matter how long a time it is.)

youre right, that would do alot of explaining. and maybe we can find out more about the sanctuary

[randompeep]

Just thinking about giant snails, stumps and other prehistoric versions of the present weak monsters in Ellin forest, I'm guessing there'd be giant ligators and curse eyes in the kerning city/sleepywood area?

There is already a giant Ligator in the present (its the area boss Dile), and there are giant snails in Ellin and one in the present (Mano).

[Gearfree]

Wild Kargoes are already very large, as are the Drakes, and what about the Ants that made the tunnels? There is no way a tunnel that big can be made by regular ants. (No matter how long a time it is.)

Well there is always the possibility of some monsters being introduced that just simply died away.

I would get a kick if the Kargos from that era were the size of the mini-kargo, kept as pets, but forced to evolve to their surroundings.

Specific monsters don't have to be changed btw, some animals have been the same since other species ruled this earth, the crocodile(although I'm not 100% sure) being one of em.

[IsaacGS]

Well there is always the possibility of some monsters being introduced that just simply died away.
That's exactly what the deal with Stone Bug is, I wouldn't rule out more of those types down the road.

[Gearfree]

That's exactly what the deal with Stone Bug is, I wouldn't rule out more of those types down the road.

Hell, that one in particular could have been around(or possibly its descendants) to dig the caves.

Would it be interesting if they used some of the monsters from Masteria for this time?

The idea of Versal MomMush(or would that be mushdad?) being the same as the one for back then would be cool.