Best Warrior Job to choose from?

[JezzaRules]

Personally I have a fighter and I've decided to make another warrior this time going towards either the spearman path or the page path.
Which job do you reckon is the best and why?

[modular]

every job has its ups and downs. its your story, so write it yourself. heres a couple tips:

wks dont get parties. dks do. saders ... middle.
hero's boss ability as an attacker slightly surpasses night lords. pallys get rejected. drk/dk is an hb mule, but that means you might get into horntail runs at 12x where the other 2 wont be there before 157.

[DrRusty]

every job has its ups and downs. its your story, so write it yourself. heres a couple tips:

wks dont get parties. dks do. saders ... middle.
hero's boss ability as an attacker slightly surpasses night lords. pallys get rejected. drk/dk is an hb mule, but that means you might get into horntail runs at 12x where the other 2 wont be there before 157.

Everyone always says NLs and BMs do the best single target damage, but everytime I see a high lvl hero, I think to myself, theres no friggin way anyone can outdmg this guy.

From what I hear tho, in KMS, heros are getting replaced by infighters.

@ thread starter, I'd go with hero or DK. both look equally fun to me.

[Beserker101]

I know they aren't the best but I still voted for page/WK/paladin because I am biased :f2: (although I do have a fighter and have tried an early level spearman).

[JezzaRules]

I've played a crusader before and their damage is so friggin high with panic it's just simply scary O_O.

[Hero]

Panic damage is pathetic. Oh boy, one big hit. Followed by unstable powerstrikes, and another unstable panic hit where you're lucky if it hits anywhere near as high as your last.

Crusaders have the worst 3rd job and are shit until 13x.

[Arcanum]

I went with the DK path, but remember: We have the WORST fourth job. Seriously. I have no motivation to get to level 120.

[ahoboandahal]

Definitely go page. spearmen have a harder time training second job as slow speed + unstability work against them. And if you cant train a fighter, you definitly cant train a spearman.

[kleptophobia]

Go DK, but I like fighters! But then again I don't have much 3rd job experience with crusaders D:

[Greg22]

It depends on how far you plan on getting.
Out of the three warrior subclasses you're going to choose from...
-Fighters have the best 2nd job, Crusaders have a decent 3rd job, and they have a kick-ass 4th job.
-Pages? They're pretty much shit until 4th job. A Paladin's 4th job is better than a Dark Knight's, but not as good as a Hero's.
-Spearmen are a pain in the ass until 3rd job, and they've got the best 3rd job by far. 4th job? Sucks. Major dissapointment.

[Stereo]

To be honest, 2nd job has the advantage for spearmen. I've played all 3 classes to around level 60 and even though the Spearman wasn't the best geared, it was always the easiest to train. The longer range of weapons easily makes up for the instability.

You should think about why you stopped playing your Fighter, and then figure out which of the other classes could fix that. If you can't figure out what you don't like, keep playing the Fighter until you do know. There's no point talking about which 4th job is better if you're just not going to have the patience to get there, and at level 4x Pages and Fighters are 99% the same class.

[dowadowa]

I love my fighter (although I don't have that much time to take care of him righ tnow) and appreciate spearmen. I don't meet that many WK so I don't understand them much.

[Nikkey]

Panic damage is pathetic. Oh boy, one big hit. Followed by unstable powerstrikes, and another unstable panic hit where you're lucky if it hits anywhere near as high as your last.

Crusaders have the worst 3rd job and are pumpernickel until 13x.

It just feels like the worst. Being a person playing all classes, I'd say that they're equally strong in 3rd (with leafre out) job. At least, they take about the same time to level.

[Stereo]

O.O My DK always took less time to level than the WK, mostly at Wolf Spiders but a little bit of Himes too. Granted those are really good mobbing maps unlike anything Fire/Lightning charge can find, but DKs do better mob damage anyway.

[Ape]

If you aim to make it to fourth job, hero=bossing class, paladin=training class, drk=hb mule/seduce mule class.

[ItzAnth]

Hero FTW stick with your fighter. :P

[MaxHudson]

If you aim to make it to fourth job, hero=bossing class, paladin=training class, drk=hb mule/seduce mule class.



I don't see why DK's are labled HBmule they still do good damage... not Amazing Hero OMG damage but hight damage none the less.

Hero's train as fast as pallys once Brandish is Maxed, so I would say Hero=Training/Boss.

Pallys are strong, they do have a hard time with elemental weakness since not to many monsters have them.

[Nikkey]

O.O My DK always took less time to level than the WK, mostly at Wolf Spiders but a little bit of Himes too. Granted those are really good mobbing maps unlike anything Fire/Lightning charge can find, but DKs do better mob damage anyway.

Did you level on kentaurs from lvl 90-95 on your wk? Or wyverns? :f3:

Edit: okay, I'll admit I trained all those classes to 140 before leafre/nlc was out, so it may differ somewhat. I felt that the output speed was the same, though.

[Supiangel]

Obviously , Fighter / Crusader / Hero , is the most powerful char in MapleStory , has a very good balance in MP/HP , high and fast damage (Brandish skill for example) , and the best skill :D... COMBO! is awesome with lag :D (You can do panic/coma multiple times without lose orbs XP).

[JoeTang]

Panic and Coma are useless after... 122 I believe. White Knights would be a lot better if FA didn't pineapple their Slash Blast damage. I still personally prefer Paladins -> Hero -> Dark Knight

[Russt]

FA-less?
Stick it in Iron Body or something. If a job's weakness is in a skill it has, skip the skill.

And yeah, I know it's great for PS, but there's Blast, and you can stick to mobbing till then or something.

[Stereo]

FA-less?
Stick it in Iron Body or something. If a job's weakness is in a skill it has, skip the skill.

And yeah, I know it's great for PS, but there's Blast, and you can stick to mobbing till then or something.

Iron Body is worse than easily available w.def pots, if it matters that much then you should be using the pots (I think it's 40 wdef for maxed Iron Body vs. 50 wdef on the defense pots).

[Hero]

Obviously , Fighter / Crusader / Hero , is the most powerful char in MapleStory , has a very good balance in MP/HP , high and fast damage (Brandish skill for example) , and the best skill :D... COMBO! is awesome with lag :D (You can do panic/coma multiple times without lose orbs XP).

1) Heroes don't have the best DPS. Easily get outdone by Archers and NL at bosses and they're more prefered to begin with, especially the combination.

2) Very good balance of HP/MP, it's a warrior. 'nuff said.

3) High and fast damage, see 1.

4) When you use your finishers during lag, they don't actually deal damage. You can spam all you want, but after 10 you'll just lag out anyway.

5) 100% 2hko's skelegons last of all three warriors.

Get some real facts to back your useless claims up, right now you're sounding like a retarded basiler. LOZL DK R GR8 BIG SPEAR DMG

[hugeslam]

Supiangel, If you were experienced as a Crusader/Hero you would have noticed that if you lag and Panic/Coma twice, only one of them will count(I think it's the first one, not 100% sure about that). You only see more than 1 in your screen.



Hero, I believe solo NLs do not out-DPS heroes, but then again that might be because NLs have more expensive equipment. If they do outDPS, then I apologize, since I have not done calculations, just talking from what I'm used to seeing.

[Hero]

Supiangel, If you were experienced as a Crusader/Hero you would have noticed that if you lag and Panic/Coma twice, only one of them will count(I think it's the first one, not 100% sure about that). You only see more than 1 in your screen.



Hero, I believe solo NLs do not out-DPS heroes, but then again that might be because NLs have more expensive equipment. If they do outDPS, then I apologize, since I have not done calculations, just talking from what I'm used to seeing.

Basically, it depends on the gear. I do know it's almost impossible for anyone but a red-katana hero to out-damage a NL overtime, whereas a RK hero has quite the ability to. With SE, NL wins hands down. Bowmasters are close to NL, but I'm not 100% sure because nobody ever really compares bowmasters to hero and I'm far too lazy to.

NL are still prefered at bosses though, even if they're weaker than heros ; it's just for their 5 minute longer apples.

[hugeslam]

Oh, BMs with their own Sharp Eyes are way higher than a No-SE Night Lord. About MMs I do not know, just know about BMs.

[Russt]

Iron Body is worse than easily available w.def pots, if it matters that much then you should be using the pots (I think it's 40 wdef for maxed Iron Body vs. 50 wdef on the defense pots).
Well, if not that then it'd have to be opposite weapon Mastery or something. It'd be like a... 1.25 hybrid page. Nah, I don't think so, I'll go with Iron.

The main point wasn't where to put the leftover points anyhow. What I meant is, if FA is what makes WKs weaker in 3rd, then skip it.

[Stereo]

What I meant is, if FA is what makes WKs weaker in 3rd, then skip it.

What makes WKs weaker is training on Kentaurs and Wyverns while DK/Crusaders are killing Wolf Spiders, Gobies and Himes. Current neutral/holy monsters are generally a lot better exp+drops than fire/ice/lightning ones.


I wouldn't say FA makes you weaker at Wyverns, it's only bad on maps where you can hit 6 monsters consistently (Gobies come to mind) and most of the wyvern map will be 1-3 monsters until you get Rush.

[Dusk]

Oh, BMs with their own Sharp Eyes are way higher than a No-SE Night Lord. About MMs I do not know, just know about BMs.

Depends on whether you include Venom or not. Typical single target DPS breakdown of MM, BM, NL, and Heroes not counting cross-class buffing would be:

BM > Hero > MM > NL

NLs have Venom, though, so in solo training they would actually be higher up there. Not sure exactly how high.

[Lynel]

Who the heck are all these people voting for the Loladin class? Most broken, piece of pumpernickel class in existance. Man I can't wait for Dukus to come out to further show just how terrible Loladins are.


At any rate, I think the Hero/Dark Knight classes are both good in their own ways. :)

[Judgment]

Who the heck are all these people voting for the Loladin class? Most broken, piece of pumpernickel class in existance. Man I can't wait for Dukus to come out to further show just how terrible Loladins are.

I think those voting are Heros/DKs who don't want prices of their equips to go up.

Anyhow, people will realize when WKs are broken by having to buy their ACB skill book from a Zak guild instead of earning one. :f7:

[blacktiger19]

I've trained both a 9x WK and an 8x DK (and a 14x bishop but I guess that doesnt count). I created my WK last year, and my DK this year. This may not be what most people's experiences have been, but I leveled my spearman faster than I leveled my page.

However it seemed more tedious to level my spearman, possibly because it was hybrid and did not have that slick FA animation, or possibly because I've been spoiled by the various new party quests that have come out this past year.

In my third job, though, I'm finding it more enjoyable training my DK. Crusher and fury seem like more welcome changes to power strike and slash blast. I've yet to get either one to fourth job yet.