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MaxHudson
2008-08-05, 06:48 PM
Interviewer: Padma "LadyLotus" Fuller, Editor/Site Lead
Interviewee: Sheloman Byrd, Product Coordinator

1. What can players expect to find in the recent patch with Maple Story?

The upcoming patch is something we're all excited about at Nexon America. We're delivering the next chapter in the story of the continent of Masteria and New Leaf City, which were two new areas added to MapleStory last summer. The area is expanding in every way possible—new quests, new weapons, new monsters, new maps and plenty of surprises. In addition to that, we're working on adding some additional platforming features, as well as the first round of Master Monsters, new bosses that provide a challenge for a wide range of levels.

2. Will there be specific updates to loot and items for players to use and enjoy?

Absolutely. Players will be able to craft new weapons, which we are thrilled to add to our game. Some of the new weapons have variations, depending on what the player wants as well. We're very confident players will like the weapons. Our design team and concept artists did a fantastic job.

3. Each time a company release a patch into a game it can changes things drastically. What impact do you expect to see in the Maple World?

Well, the changes affect the Maple World in some way, be it the items you'll receive from quests, having an additional goal to shoot for when battling bosses, crafting new weapons, exploring the areas, experiencing a different way of battling monsters or navigating new areas. Last year, New Leaf City re-energized the economy in terms of training and making items more available. Our players continue to enjoy the benefits of that update, so now we're adding some re-playability to the area and different portions of the game as well, for mid-level and high-level players.

4. Do you have anything planned out for autumn? Can we expect to see another patch sometime before 2009?

We patch almost every month and it's always something new. We've updated a ton of new stuff this year, from user interface features to content for every level, 1 to 200. We have plenty of tricks left up our sleeve, including a few things that will require a bit more strategy and teamwork to overcome. For our high-level players especially, what we're working on will be a true challenge. It won't be with this upcoming patch, but it will be soon.

5. What is the development team's favorite part in adding content to the game? Is it fun to watch the player reactions?

Oh yes. When New Leaf City released last year, one of our favorite moments was players asking us about the Warrior's Throne (a big, blue lounge chair given upon finishing all New Leaf City quests), as well as watching players traverse the new hunting grounds and figure out the secrets buried within the maps. Our favorite part about adding content to the game is our players enjoying it (we hope!). We haven't always done the best job of communicating how important our players are, so we've really trying to make sure they know we care about them. Without our players, there is no MapleStory. Laughing with friends in the game, attending a wedding or getting married, the agony of blowing up a high-level equip with a dark scroll, triumphing over a boss—these are the type of experiences that you remember. We're happy that they've chosen our game to have those experiences in and be a part of it.

6. Overall, can you tell us some of Nexon's plans for the upcoming months going into next year?

Sure. Players can look forward to at least one new Party Quest, plenty of new bosses, and a few other things that will debut in MapleStory Global. The year isn't over, and we've got plenty left in the tank to finish with a bang.


Also on the site there are new screen shots and on that page it says....DUNDUNDUN

"As we promised! Here are the screenshots that will give you a sneek peek at the MapleStory patch that is coming out around August 5th."

http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/Phantom-Forest-10.preview.jpg

http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/Crimsonwood-Keep-2.preview.jpg

http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/Phantom-Forest-4.preview.jpg

http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/Mountain-Cave-4.preview.jpg

Alloy
2008-08-05, 06:51 PM
Someone posted in some other thread, but it doesn't make it be less fantastic.

DrRusty
2008-08-05, 06:52 PM
so where are the screen shots?

MaxHudson
2008-08-05, 06:53 PM
Someone posted in some other thread, but it doesn't make it be less fantastic.

That somone was me. I figured more people would get to see it in a topic of its self. Lemme grab the SS's.

Edit, SS's added. Now talk about it!

Shippo the Fox
2008-08-05, 06:57 PM
Wraiths? Waste of a SS. Newer monsters pl0x.

And around August 5th? Tomorrow or Thursday pl0x.

Spadow
2008-08-05, 06:57 PM
Nice new screenshots! So they're called Stormbreakers.

Looking at the positions of the monsters/NPCs and the map names, it seems it's ready for release!

Takebacker
2008-08-05, 06:59 PM
WOW!

1) That is ONE RANGED FRIENDLY MAP. Huge mobs with PLENTY of sniper spots.
2) Around august 5th = OMG.
3) New weapon variants? Yay! :O

Dyxanije
2008-08-05, 07:00 PM
I can't wait to see the new PQ :D.

Loose
2008-08-05, 07:02 PM
The new blue monster like dude seems to be weilding a Crossbow or Gun?

Anything
2008-08-05, 07:06 PM
I'm curious as to whether the new PQ is just new to our version(meaning it already exists) or if it's new to MapleStory in general. Anyone have any ideas?

Cheesecake
2008-08-05, 07:09 PM
I'm curious as to whether the new PQ is new to our version(meaning it already exists) or if it's new to MapleStory in general. Anyone have any ideas?

it said these things are debuting on maplestory global, so w/e it is, it's a first for the game. :heart:

Spadow
2008-08-05, 07:09 PM
I'm curious as to whether the new PQ is just new to our version(meaning it already exists) or if it's new to MapleStory in general. Anyone have any ideas?

It could be a new exclusive Party Quest for MapleStory Global.

Shinryuji
2008-08-05, 07:16 PM
they should just do the damn patch already

schools about to begin for some of us ><

Anon-RedI
2008-08-05, 07:17 PM
:glitter:I feel so happy that you all are so stoked! hehehe:glitter:

Alloy
2008-08-05, 07:22 PM
That somone was me. I figured more people would get to see it in a topic of its self. Lemme grab the SS's.

Edit, SS's added. Now talk about it!

aHA! I knew the user name was familiar... :p

aznegglover
2008-08-05, 07:28 PM
2. Will there be specific updates to loot and items for players to use and enjoy?

Absolutely. Players will be able to craft new weapons, which we are thrilled to add to our game. Some of the new weapons have variations, depending on what the player wants as well. We're very confident players will like the weapons. Our design team and concept artists did a fantastic job.
Item Level-Up o.0?

And about the new PQ.. Magatia/Elin Forest by Xmas?

Takebacker
2008-08-05, 07:30 PM
Item Level-Up o.0?

And about the new PQ.. Magatia/Elin Forest by Xmas?

If they did that then there is only one word i have to say, which i think should be bolded and made into very large font.

EPIC!

It would seriously destroy any other weapon, but dang that'd be nice.

DrRusty
2008-08-05, 07:31 PM
I wonder what that buff is in the last SS.

Takebacker
2008-08-05, 07:32 PM
I wonder what that buff is in the last SS. Looks like boomerang step or somethin oO

It's echo of hero. :O

Erich
2008-08-05, 07:33 PM
Item Level-Up o.0?

And about the new PQ.. Magatia/Elin Forest by Xmas?

item level up=magita, thats maker skill!

DrRusty
2008-08-05, 07:37 PM
It's echo of hero. :O

oh lol. I've never had ecko of hero buff before so I didnt recognize it XD.

I kind of thought that the guy in the bosshunterish outfit would be an NPC. I never thought he'd actually be something to train on.

Takebacker
2008-08-05, 07:38 PM
item level up=magita, thats maker skill!

Uhhh, he means the same system with level 120 weapons. Whereas it's untradeable when you equip it and the more you use it it levels up.

Retalion
2008-08-05, 07:44 PM
Interesting...

Just curious, but can someone here with good math skills/deduction skills figure out how much hp those monsters have by how much of the hp bar is gone in comparisson to him using one bomb/inferno to lure the monsters over? xD

Edit: How come they cant play with thier mini-maps open >=(

Additionally, us getting a new PQ does not necessarily mean we're getting a "brand new" PQ. Its possible it means we're getting a PQ that other versions have already (lol the Mansion PQ that some other versions got for halloween or something perhaps?)

Stereo
2008-08-05, 07:48 PM
Interesting...

Just curious, but can someone here with good math skills/deduction skills figure out how much hp those monsters have by how much of the hp bar is gone in comparisson to him using one bomb/inferno to lure the monsters over? xD
It's hard to say without knowing what skills they have, if they have maxed 4th job mastery then you can get a decent approximation but you also have to know whether their gear is scrolled and stuff.

Berzerk
2008-08-05, 07:49 PM
God damn them, they need to just stop hyping this up and release it. T_T Looks like another week of waiting though. x_x

DrRusty
2008-08-05, 07:51 PM
God damn them, they need to just stop hyping this up and release it. T_T Looks like another week of waiting though. x_x

they did say around august 5th. Since tonight is just a server check, It's probably going to be in the next couple of days.



"As we promised! Here are the screenshots that will give you a sneek peek at the MapleStory patch that is coming out around August 5th."

Berzerk
2008-08-05, 07:54 PM
they did say around august 5th. Since tonight is just a server check, It's probably going to be in the next couple of days.

Well, it's a server maintenance. They're probably getting the servers ready for it's release. If anything, we should have the patch Tomorrow night, but we haven't gotten any notice of it already. The patches are almost always Wend->Thurs night. I'm not saying we couldn't get it say, Friday but I just don't see it happening. =/

Then again, I could be completely wrong.

iamflip
2008-08-05, 07:57 PM
Umm... here's something I kinda noticed...

Where's the source of this interview?

Spadow
2008-08-05, 08:01 PM
Umm... here's something I kinda noticed...

Where's the source of this interview?

Here. (http://www.tentonhamster.com/node/2026) Notice the watermark on the screenshots?

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 08:02 PM
Thanks =)!

I updated my thread (http://www.southperry.net/forums/showthread.php?t=538) with the new info =)

I just need to know when the patch will be =(

Wani
2008-08-05, 08:14 PM
At least now we have a name for the monsters. Stormbreakers. :O Since I don't know as much about Masterian lore as other people *coughISAACcough*, anyone got any info on that?

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 08:17 PM
Well,they are from Stormcaster i think
Look at the lighthings thing and their name

Stormbreakers =D!

But someone will give you more info...

IsaacGS,that weird MapleRobot made by Nexon o.o'

whybanme
2008-08-05, 08:22 PM
How many more updates will be in the topic about the chronicles of masteria? and could you please tell us when you'll update it?

Pretty much whenever I have time. The one on Patch Night will probably be the biggest.


Well he tells us there would be an update on patch night....and I think it's too late to update the thread on the Nexon Forums now....so no patch tonight? =(

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 08:25 PM
Well he tells us there would be an update on patch night....and I think it's too late to update the thread on the Nexon Forums now....so no patch tonight? =(

I was going to post it :hothead:

Well...but,noone knows o.O
Maybe they will update when the patch starts...or during the patch o.o(They have some hours to change the notice to Patch v59) o.o

Corn
2008-08-05, 08:37 PM
Oh my god those were monsters?!!? Didn't a lot of people think they were NPCs?

"We're delivering the next chapter in the story of the continent of Masteria and New Leaf City, which were two new areas added to MapleStory last summer."
Lol that's one new place.

as well as the first round of Master Monsters, new bosses that provide a challenge for a wide range of levels. Master Monsters...?


Also, it seems by his tense that the item forging will come this patch. Not in another patch after this.

Edit: And those monsters have a load of hp. A level 200 with bosshunter's gear and a level 120 bow and echo of hero only did 1/3 damage with an (assumingly) arrow bomb.

IsaacGS
2008-08-05, 08:43 PM
Because I had to go out tonight, I just knew something cool would happen. >_>

Did we all miss the most important part, that says the patch should have been today? I think that's a really good sign for tomorrow or thursday.
These new screenshots look awesome. I wonder what's going on with the blue enemy there. Time for some more detailed investigation, I suppose.

Master Monsters are Area Bosses. The first round would be Tae Roon (OMFG FINALLY), Mano, Stumpy, Eliza, Snowman (lolz already out) and King Clang. It's not surprising we'd get these soon since MSEA just got it too. Always nice to have it in confirmed wording though.

This is my first impression, so I'm gonna go over it again to skim out some interesting facts since everyone wants me to so badly. :p

iamflip
2008-08-05, 08:46 PM
Here. (http://www.tentonhamster.com/node/2026) Notice the watermark on the screenshots?

Thanks. I kinda prefer seeing the original article for myself, because (no offense) anyone could paste watermarks on a picture. I just want to be completely sure it's legit. :P

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 08:47 PM
Because I had to go out tonight, I just knew something cool would happen. >_>

Did we all miss the most important part, that says the patch should have been today? I think that's a really good sign for tomorrow or thursday.
These new screenshots look awesome. I wonder what's going on with the blue enemy there. Time for some more detailed investigation, I suppose.



Yes,it was the first thing i noticed..maybe the maintenance WILL be a Patch?


Master Monsters are Area Bosses. The first round would be Tae Roon (OMFG FINALLY), Mano, Stumpy, Eliza, Snowman (lolz already out) and King Clang. It's not surprising we'd get these soon since MSEA just got it too. Always nice to have it in confirmed wording though.

OMG!Area Bosses?!
I cant wait for this Patch D:

Stereo
2008-08-05, 08:49 PM
Edit: And those monsters have a load of hp. A level 200 with bosshunter's gear and a level 120 bow and echo of hero only did 1/3 damage with an (assumingly) arrow bomb.

Ok you convinced me to do basic calculations.

I'm assuming 125 w.atk (counting echo of hero) cause it's easy, plus 115 str and 920 dex. Not great, but it's just a test character and it doesn't have stuff like Zakum Helmet even.

Minimum Damage: 3310
Maximum Damage: 4053

If it's maxed Inferno, then it's 150% non crit + 250% crit, I think. Thus 1/3 of their hp = 5000-10000, for a total of 15000-30000 hp. Since 2 of the monsters are closer to 1/3 HP bar, I'd guess it's in the lower range of this, probably something like 20-25k HP unless he's hit multiple times.

If they're wearing decent gear it could be a lot different, but it doesn't look like it.

Takebacker
2008-08-05, 08:50 PM
Oh my god those were monsters?!!? Didn't a lot of people think they were NPCs?

"We're delivering the next chapter in the story of the continent of Masteria and New Leaf City, which were two new areas added to MapleStory last summer."
Lol that's one new place.

as well as the first round of Master Monsters, new bosses that provide a challenge for a wide range of levels. Master Monsters...?


Also, it seems by his tense that the item forging will come this patch. Not in another patch after this.

Edit: And those monsters have a load of hp. A level 200 with bosshunter's gear and a level 120 bow and echo of hero only did 1/3 damage with an (assumingly) arrow bomb.

I really don't think that we should be doing HP assumptions so soon. There's not enough data. Are her weapons clean? If not, how well scrolled? What's the level of the monster? What skill was used? (even if it was arrow bomb, how much damage does that do at level 200?)

Too many questions, and not enough facts to provide answers.

Russt
2008-08-05, 08:56 PM
Instead of spending all this time speculating, why don't you train up to the next level 0% so you can die as much as you want exploring it when it comes out?

Patch night will reveal a lot more than what we have to work with now.

Corn
2008-08-05, 08:56 PM
Edit: ^ I already did lol. At 2% and camping at NLC as we speak.


Because I had to go out tonight, I just knew something cool would happen. >_>

Did we all miss the most important part, that says the patch should have been today? I think that's a really good sign for tomorrow or thursday.
These new screenshots look awesome. I wonder what's going on with the blue enemy there. Time for some more detailed investigation, I suppose.

Master Monsters are Area Bosses. The first round would be Tae Roon (OMFG FINALLY), Mano, Stumpy, Eliza, Snowman (lolz already out) and King Clang. It's not surprising we'd get these soon since MSEA just got it too. Always nice to have it in confirmed wording though.

This is my first impression, so I'm gonna go over it again to skim out some interesting facts since everyone wants me to so badly. :p

Thanks =D. Ugh..so many names for those bosses -_-

Ok you convinced me to do basic calculations.

I'm assuming 125 w.atk (counting echo of hero) cause it's easy, plus 115 str and 920 dex. Not great, but it's just a test character and it doesn't have stuff like Zakum Helmet even.

Minimum Damage: 3310
Maximum Damage: 4053

If it's maxed Inferno, then it's 150% non crit + 250% crit, I think. Thus 1/3 of their hp = 5000-10000, for a total of 15000-30000 hp. Since 2 of the monsters are closer to 1/3 HP bar, I'd guess it's in the lower range of this, probably something like 20-25k HP unless he's hit multiple times.

If they're wearing decent gear it could be a lot different, but it doesn't look like it..
Wow nice calculations =O.


I really don't think that we should be doing HP assumptions so soon. There's not enough data. Are her weapons clean? If not, how well scrolled? What's the level of the monster? What skill was used? (even if it was arrow bomb, how much damage does that do at level 200?)

Too many questions, and not enough facts to provide answers.

Jack made me estimate XD. But yeah, we need more facts.

Oh, and did anyone notice the small hp bar?

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8773/64188827hx5.png

Wonder what it is.

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 08:59 PM
Oh, and did anyone notice the small hp bar?

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8773/64188827hx5.png

Wonder what it is.

I just noticed the HP bars,maybe its a Bob the Snail?>:D

o.o

IsaacGS
2008-08-05, 08:59 PM
Ok you convinced me to do basic calculations.

I'm assuming 125 w.atk (counting echo of hero) cause it's easy, plus 115 str and 920 dex. Not great, but it's just a test character and it doesn't have stuff like Zakum Helmet even.

Minimum Damage: 3310
Maximum Damage: 4053

If it's maxed Inferno, then it's 150% non crit + 250% crit, I think. Thus 1/3 of their hp = 5000-10000, for a total of 15000-30000 hp. Since 2 of the monsters are closer to 1/3 HP bar, I'd guess it's in the lower range of this, probably something like 20-25k HP unless he's hit multiple times.

If they're wearing decent gear it could be a lot different, but it doesn't look like it.
Since we see that streak up there, and are currently under the assumption that it's phoenix, then doesn't it look like Phoenix is resetting itself after an attack? In that case, the damage dealt to the monsters was probably done by phoenix. They're definitely close enough for that to be the case.

Phoenix really complicates things though, because we don't know if these have any sort of weakness or resistance to fire.

Erich
2008-08-05, 08:59 PM
its that demented lady monster thing up there....:f3:

BladeHavoc
2008-08-05, 08:59 PM
I dont have much experience with bowmaster skills, but it might be the Phoenix summon? After all there's a red blur above the character that sort of reminds me of the Phoenix attacking.

EDIT: Beaten by Isaac. :(

Russt
2008-08-05, 09:02 PM
Yes, that and the character's in "rest" position and not breath.

Phoenix actually makes it easier, because it's not dependent on weapon attack. Using Stereo's stats (I'm not sure where they're from, but sure), Phoenix's damage range is 9487~13282.

So that means they have around 36k HP if they're neutral, 54k if fire-weak, 24k if fire-resist.

EngelRod
2008-08-05, 09:03 PM
I just noticed the HP bars,maybe its a Bob the Snail?>:D

o.o

It is the creepy monster that is on the upper platform, look carefully at the monsters' feet.

Cheez
2008-08-05, 09:05 PM
Stormbreaker = opposite of stormcaster.

Perhaps these guys in the cave are corrupt demonic versions of their former selves, from whichever group they belong in? Maybe we can extrapolate and guess names of the other ones.

Erich
2008-08-05, 09:05 PM
It is the creepy monster that is on the upper platform, look carefully at the monsters' feet.

said that already:cool:

EngelRod
2008-08-05, 09:09 PM
said that already:cool:

Oh sorry I didn't noticed it :redface:

BladeHavoc
2008-08-05, 09:17 PM
lol, I went online to go camp for CW, got to the place where the wraiths were and decided to log off, when an HH spawned on me :(

But seriously, amazing screenshots. Cannot wait.

IsaacGS
2008-08-05, 09:21 PM
Alright, here we go.

The PQ he is talking about is Magatia. That's why he says "at least one". Magatia PQ is 100% certain to come out, and it's also high on our priority list as far as content-to-release-for-story-development is concerned. Nihal desert has been made into a big deal for us, and Magatia's the most crucial section of it. That's not to say that we won't get a Masteria PQ but this isn't what he's talking about here.

One thing that I think is noteworthy is the absence of any reference to the release of a new class by the end of the year. Pirate people should cool their jets. If all these pirate map objects and NPCs were supposed to be hints then I'm sure this guy would have made mention of it.

Already addressed the Master Monster thing, looks like we're on track for Area Bosses in the next patch after Crimsonwood. They're fun for questers and the quests do give very good EXP, if you do them at the earliest possible level (often in the area of 10-15%) and a fair amount of Fame.

Seeing the Jr. Wraiths makes me even more certain that we'll get to Crimsonwood from the mansion. I bet the Jr.Wraiths gradually fade into the new Elder Wraiths.

Notice that the Forest maps are labeled (A1) (B1), etc. I'm thinking this is probably some sort of alphanumerical grid system for navigating the maze presented by the forest. Maybe something like:
A1 B1 C1
A2 B2 C2
A3 B3 C3

etc. the maps probably all connect to the adjoining maps, making it a maze to navigate. who knows if the number-letter will be in the name when it's released, though, it may just be to aid the GM testers.


I get the feeling that to get to crimsonwood you'll probably have to go underground through the caves and emerge from that tunnel.

The blue female enemy is holding a crossbow. I'm about 80% certain of this. I really like the way this enemy in particular looks, though I can't quite put my finger on it. The cracked mask really makes it look interesting, because what's underneath is quite a bit creepier than the mask itself, which is sort of the opposite of normal usage for a mask. under that mob of stormbreakers is definitely one of the blue enemies, however as many have noticed the name is unreadable. Anyone want to try shopping it for clarity?

BladeHavoc
2008-08-05, 09:25 PM
If it is a maze, then maybe the "30,101,Hidden" makes more sense.

Russt
2008-08-05, 09:26 PM
Stereo already did. The trouble is that it's a JPG image, so the quality got nerfed as soon as it was uploaded onto the web.

InTraining
2008-08-05, 09:46 PM
http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/summerdrop

Notice the starts on the 24th? 2 week late patch? :eek:

Erich
2008-08-05, 09:48 PM
where is this o_o

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 09:48 PM
http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/summerdrop

Notice the starts on the 24th? 2 week late patch? :eek:

I hate you and NEXON D:

I hope the event will be 2 weeks AFTER PATCH D:

LOL!!!!

Its from MapleEurope

Spadow
2008-08-05, 09:49 PM
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/Spadow/cswd.png

.

Mira
2008-08-05, 09:49 PM
http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/summerdrop

Notice the starts on the 24th? 2 week late patch? :eek:


I think that's for EMS, actually.

Takebacker
2008-08-05, 09:49 PM
http://www.tentonhamster.com/system/files/images/summerdrop

Notice the starts on the 24th? 2 week late patch? :eek:

That's not for GMS.

randompeep
2008-08-05, 09:50 PM
nvm too late. :f7:

Tamekii
2008-08-05, 09:51 PM
I think that's for EMS, actually.

Yes,i just noticed that on main website o.o

@Spadow

I saw that some minutes ago o.o'

And if you look,you can see her weapon(A Seraphim?)near a weapon.

InTraining
2008-08-05, 10:10 PM
LOL, ok, good to know that its not for NAMS. :cool:

Spaz
2008-08-05, 10:11 PM
For our high-level players especially, what we're working on will be a true challenge. It won't be with this upcoming patch, but it will be soon.

*grumble grumble* Hopefully there will at least be some nice quests in the first patch.

silverquiver
2008-08-05, 10:13 PM
Well nice to see some more spoilers but I'd rather see the patch. Might start heading to NLC tomorrow and join the rest of the eager campers.

randompeep
2008-08-05, 10:16 PM
im getting sick of camping at gryphons/ haunted house. :f5:

(went from ~85% lvl 47 --> ~90% lvl 48 just sitting here...)

Erich
2008-08-05, 10:16 PM
I have both my characters camped there, my cleric is converinlantly in the mansion training :D

BrownTigga
2008-08-05, 10:27 PM
patch is probably 2morrow
sucks that pirates arnt mentioned. Maybe they'll release it as a new year patch and have their solgan saying "starting another awesome year with one of the best content *pirate class*. Players can except more and continue to enjoy maplestory and make 2009 a great year.(buy more nx =D)"

MaxHudson
2008-08-05, 10:27 PM
Ok you convinced me to do basic calculations.

I'm assuming 125 w.atk (counting echo of hero) cause it's easy, plus 115 str and 920 dex. Not great, but it's just a test character and it doesn't have stuff like Zakum Helmet even.

Minimum Damage: 3310
Maximum Damage: 4053

If it's maxed Inferno, then it's 150% non crit + 250% crit, I think. Thus 1/3 of their hp = 5000-10000, for a total of 15000-30000 hp. Since 2 of the monsters are closer to 1/3 HP bar, I'd guess it's in the lower range of this, probably something like 20-25k HP unless he's hit multiple times.

If they're wearing decent gear it could be a lot different, but it doesn't look like it.

Ah how I missed your exelent posts. Another reason I love this site so much.


Now on to buisness, They had to have been hit more then once, plain and spimple. Notice the hp bar of the other monster. Its lower then the rest, its almost dead. And judging from things this is Cave of Pain2... Cave of Fear 1 has the stormbrakers and the other unknown stormcaster girl. This has the darker monster on a cave thats deeper then the first meaning it would have to be stronger/have more hp. Then again what I just said contradicts itself in the fact Strombreaker's are in the map =\. But I'm geussing it was hit multiple times, and its a good thing to note that The cave starts out at level 70. so if they where really hit 25k and not dead they would have to have good exp? If a level 70monster has that much hp Lmao...


Whatcha guys think?

Hazzy
2008-08-05, 10:31 PM
"Stormbreaker"? :f6:

This looks like a good updat. <3

IsaacGS
2008-08-05, 10:35 PM
Ah how I missed your exelent posts. Another reason I love this site so much.


Now on to buisness, They had to have been hit more then once, plain and spimple. Notice the hp bar of the other monster. Its lower then the rest, its almost dead. And judging from things this is Cave of Pain2... Cave of Fear 1 has the stormbrakers and the other unknown stormcaster girl. This has the darker monster on a cave thats deeper then the first meaning it would have to be stronger/have more hp. Then again what I just said contradicts itself in the fact Strombreaker's are in the map =\. But I'm geussing it was hit multiple times, and its a good thing to note that The cave starts out at level 70. so if they where really hit 25k and not dead they would have to have good exp? If a level 70monster has that much hp Lmao...


Whatcha guys think?
Well, it could be that each map has two species of monsters on it, and the Stormbreakers are stronger than the mage girls. So, there's a stronger species and a weaker species. Then, the Cave of Pain, the weaker monster is Stormbreaker and the stronger monster is the blue one.

Or it's the other way around, because it looks like that HP bar in the mob, which is presumably from a blue monster, is lower than the stormbreakers' HP bars, though there's several possible explanations for that.

just for reference, a monster with 25k HP would be comparable to Wolf Spiders in strength, as they have 27k HP.

MaxHudson
2008-08-05, 10:43 PM
My point about the 25k was because of what was said that the geuss was 25k was done to the monster, so that would mean it would have near 60k (Kinda of a geuss based on if the damage done to it was 25k and it took that much off the bar.)



I'm kinda getting sick of now NXprose has not had any updates or anything recent. Atleast he would comment on the SS's posted here and about the interviews >_> *runs off to apq =\*

Russt
2008-08-05, 10:46 PM
I thought I said the damage was probably done with Phoenix, and Phoenix does around 12k with average stats. So it'd be around 35k. Bit more than DTs.

IsaacGS
2008-08-05, 10:53 PM
My point about the 25k was because of what was said that the geuss was 25k was done to the monster, so that would mean it would have near 60k (Kinda of a geuss based on if the damage done to it was 25k and it took that much off the bar.)



I'm kinda getting sick of now NXprose has not had any updates or anything recent. Atleast he would comment on the SS's posted here and about the interviews >_> *runs off to apq =\*
Stereo was saying that they were probably hit for 3-4k, giving them an estimated total of 25k HP. No one said they had taken 25k damage. o-o

Stereo
2008-08-06, 02:52 AM
I thought I said the damage was probably done with Phoenix, and Phoenix does around 12k with average stats. So it'd be around 35k. Bit more than DTs.

You're probably right about it being Phoenix, given the "out of arrows" message in the text. Then I'd guess the blue ones have maybe 25-30k and the red have 35-40k, and the 2 monsters have been hit twice.


1 other thing I noticed - the HP bar of the 3rd one is down about twice as much as the 2 (possibly more).

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/5056/otherhpbaret8.png

Extrapolating from the monster names, I drew about how the HP bar looks like above the others. It could be anywhere from zero to the amount of green I put on it.

Russt
2008-08-06, 05:51 AM
Heh, I had to stare at the pic for about a minute before I realized what you did with the extrapolating.

I just thought of something. Wouldn't they release it in Tespia first before the official patch? Then again, I suppose they generated too much hype for that to happen.

Spadow
2008-08-06, 05:58 AM
Heh, I had to stare at the pic for about a minute before I realized what you did with the extrapolating.

I just thought of something. Wouldn't they release it in Tespia first before the official patch? Then again, I suppose they generated too much hype for that to happen.

No.



When is the next Content Test Server sign up going to be?

For Masteria, there isn't going to be one. Everyone is going to experience the update at the same time. =)

Russt
2008-08-06, 06:07 AM
Yeah. Figured.

Xakris
2008-08-06, 06:10 AM
Huh NLC is similar to Singapore from MSEA
NLC -> Singapore
Haunted House -> Boat Quay
Headless Horseman -> Captain Latanica
CK -> Ulu City
new challenge for high-levels -> Krexel?

Slashermills2
2008-08-06, 06:46 AM
OMG NINTENDO 64!!!!!!!!

ok ok ok jk
OMG! insane >_> maybe' I'll start training my Xbowman again

Afrobean
2008-08-06, 07:23 AM
I'm starting to think the high level boss for this area won't be released until a few patches from now, like MSEA did with Singpore's Ulu City and Krexel. In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion we might not even be able to enter the actual Keep yet when it finally comes out... Boy, do I hope I'm wrong.

silverquiver
2008-08-06, 07:40 AM
I'm starting to think the high level boss for this area won't be released until a few patches from now, like MSEA did with Singpore's Ulu City and Krexel. In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion we might not even be able to enter the actual Keep yet when it finally comes out... Boy, do I hope I'm wrong.

I know what you mean, I have the same feeling. They haven't mentioned much about what is inside the keep nor have they shown any SS's of it. Maybe they want to keep it extra super secret so it will be special for everyone... but who knows.

Gearfree
2008-08-06, 07:59 AM
I'm starting to think the high level boss for this area won't be released until a few patches from now, like MSEA did with Singpore's Ulu City and Krexel. In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion we might not even be able to enter the actual Keep yet when it finally comes out... Boy, do I hope I'm wrong.

Were likely to see something about that soon the way these interviews keep popping up.

One of the bigger questions is how those catacombs pull into the story.
Are they a series of tunnels being dug by a nearly unstoppable force?
They forget to check the canary? :excellent:
Were they the last stands of defense by a generation of long lost heroes?
Are those guys dead? Who do they follow(what is the boss gonna be)?

And the most important question,
who was Cristopher Crimsonheart, and what is his legacy?

Otherwise, platforming "enhancements" is(in my book at least) a 95% likelihood of the dropdown ability.

I will be keeping my bet that they will add Pirates in a reasonable period of time from when MSEA announces/adds it.

Slip
2008-08-06, 09:12 AM
In my opinion, I would say that Area Bosses Set 1 isn't that bad.

It gives users more of an environment to explore.

As for the new Party Quest, I'd have to say that it'll be the Magatia one. Or, since they added "at least" one, I'm aiming for Elin Forest PQ, too.


For our high-level players especially, what we're working on will be a true challenge.

That seems very interesting... They're working very hard, I'll have to say.

Plenty of bosses = Area bosses? Maybe other bosses from various towns.

ahoboandahal
2008-08-06, 09:16 AM
In my opinion, I would say that Area Bosses Set 1 isn't that bad.

It gives users more of an environment to explore.

As for the new Party Quest, I'd have to say that it'll be the Magatia one. Or, since they added "at least" one, I'm aiming for Elin Forest PQ, too.



That seems very interesting... They're working very hard, I'll have to say.

Plenty of bosses = Area bosses? Maybe other bosses from various towns.

I personally think global is far off from elin forest as there are so many things we dont have compared to when other versions got elin. I think Magatia PQ is coming as global has so many low 7Xs complaining about no pq, and I think we might get a new masteria pq. And I think the new boss will be something like pap, a strategic fight, not just 4nls se mule and bishop like at zakum.

Slip
2008-08-06, 09:21 AM
I personally think global is far off from elin forest as there are so many things we dont have compared to when other versions got elin. I think Magatia PQ is coming as global has so many low 7Xs complaining about no pq, and I think we might get a new masteria pq. And I think the new boss will be something like pap, a strategic fight, not just 4nls se mule and bishop like at zakum.
Elin Forest can come sooner than you think.

What we have in store right now, Magatia, World Tour Towns, Pirates/Nautilus and more Masteria.

Only two of them all versions will get. Magatia and Pirates will most likely be available in all versions of the game sooner or later.

Elin Forest, should be added to that category also.

Nexon also decided to shift a bit of data into our Map and Mob files that contain Elin Forest references. So, here's my prediction.

If we don't get Elin Forest this year, we'll get it Q1 or Q2 next year.

ahoboandahal
2008-08-06, 09:53 AM
Elin Forest can come sooner than you think.

What we have in store right now, Magatia, World Tour Towns, Pirates/Nautilus and more Masteria.

Only two of them all versions will get. Magatia and Pirates will most likely be available in all versions of the game sooner or later.

Elin Forest, should be added to that category also.

Nexon also decided to shift a bit of data into our Map and Mob files that contain Elin Forest references. So, here's my prediction.

If we don't get Elin Forest this year, we'll get it Q1 or Q2 next year.

Thats what I meant by a long way off like sometime next year. And with elin forest reference, didnt they reference showa for like a year and a half before it came out?

Rayquaza2233
2008-08-06, 10:01 AM
Reference, yes. But we have DATA for Elin Forest, you see.

Raven
2008-08-06, 10:15 AM
Stormbreaker might have relevence to the stormcasters?

New monster looks great too. I can wait though, but hopefully its done before the end of the month.

Roads
2008-08-06, 10:33 AM
stormbreaker =? stormcaster :P
very very similiar name. i hope for more informations soon <3

Cheez
2008-08-06, 01:23 PM
Goddamn, nobody ever reads all the damn posts. What's the point in saying something if NOBODY READS?

Stereo
2008-08-06, 02:25 PM
Reference, yes. But we have DATA for Elin Forest, you see.

Global had Showa data for about 3 years before it was released, maybe even more.

Moti
2008-08-06, 02:29 PM
Global had Showa data for about 3 years before it was released, maybe even more.

No, that was Zipangu. :P

They're giving away too much screenshots. PATCH PLEASE! T_T

Rayquaza2233
2008-08-06, 02:29 PM
I know that, but we don't have references to Elin yet, that's why I said that.

randompeep
2008-08-06, 02:30 PM
That doesn't bode well for Pirate or other Masteria expansions, does it?

Moti
2008-08-06, 02:33 PM
Who knows. By the looks of it, Nexon "copied" 40% of KMST while patching 0.56. They've added so much new stuff in the data, including Pirates, Elin and Magatia.

We can't predict when does Nexon release stuff... All we can do is wait.
Also, for those who want Elin so bad : We will get Magatia before Elin forest, and god knows when is that.

randompeep
2008-08-06, 02:37 PM
Is Time Temple in that data? (yeah right)

ahoboandahal
2008-08-06, 02:43 PM
Is Time Temple in that data? (yeah right)

I lol'ed

IsaacGS
2008-08-06, 03:29 PM
Who knows. By the looks of it, Nexon "copied" 40% of KMST while patching 0.56. They've added so much new stuff in the data, including Pirates, Elin and Magatia.

We can't predict when does Nexon release stuff... All we can do is wait.
Also, for those who want Elin so bad : We will get Magatia before Elin forest, and god knows when is that.
If it were just copied like you say, then it would still be in Korean.

that's not the case, however, and most of the pirate weapons and Elin NPCs/monsters are translated.

Moti
2008-08-06, 03:37 PM
If it were just copied like you say, then it would still be in Korean.

that's not the case, however, and most of the pirate weapons and Elin NPCs/monsters are translated.

Which is why I put " 's with the copied. I know they translated most of the data, although there are some Pirates stuff that are yet to be translated.

And also... No, there's no Time Temple in our data.

Taiketo
2008-08-06, 03:46 PM
No, GMS DID have Showa data for years. If I remember correctly, they removed it with one patch, then re-added it, but I'm pretty sure we had Showa data before we even got Ossyria...

Takebacker
2008-08-06, 04:09 PM
No, GMS DID have Showa data for years. If I remember correctly, they removed it with one patch, then re-added it, but I'm pretty sure we had Showa data before we even got Ossyria...

Uh, i don't think we had it that far back. Also, i think they took it out and put it back in again because they wanted to see if they could implement an entire town in one patch without having to put it in the data, because they wanted to keep NLC a complete surprise.

Rayquaza2233
2008-08-06, 04:45 PM
No, GMS DID have Showa data for years. If I remember correctly, they removed it with one patch, then re-added it, but I'm pretty sure we had Showa data before we even got Ossyria...

It wasn't Showa, it was Mushroom Shrine. Showa was untranslated, and yes, we had it since beta. And that indeed was a test, New Leaf City came the patch right after that.

BladeHavoc
2008-08-06, 06:47 PM
I thought we never really had any Showa data, just the strings? And then all the map data was put in one patch, then released the patch or two after.

PureBalance
2008-08-06, 06:50 PM
It wasn't Showa, it was Mushroom Shrine. Showa was untranslated, and yes, we had it since beta. And that indeed was a test, New Leaf City came the patch right after that.

Wrong, it was Showa. Please be quiet.

Fiel
2008-08-06, 07:02 PM
Wrong, it was Showa. Please be quiet.

It was Mushroom Shrine. I have the data in-hand. Please be quiet.

kleptophobia
2008-08-06, 07:16 PM
It doesn't matter what is was, all that matters is we have data for a long time before we get it.

revansithasasin
2008-08-06, 08:10 PM
It was Mushroom Shrine. I have the data in-hand. Please be quiet.

thank you fiel for clarifying that.

on topic: i really wish that they would release some more info about ck or nothing at all, i dont like the screen shots cause imo it kind of ruins a little of the exploring fun.

*hopes for patch very soon*

jrvillarreal
2008-08-06, 08:48 PM
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff111/Spadow/cswd.png

.
the girls color scheme reminds me of dragon skins. anyone else?:glitter:

street
2008-08-07, 09:19 PM
Wow this new interview with nexon is getting me more excited for the patch.:shine: Mage friendly map <3

What puzzles me is why teentoonhamster got this interview? Shouldn't well known maple sites have exclusive interviews? The site that got the interview i never heard of until now :f6:

randompeep
2008-08-07, 09:26 PM
They did their best to hide it? (lol) a failure, though.

Gearfree
2008-08-08, 08:27 AM
Wow this new interview with nexon is getting me more excited for the patch.:shine: Mage friendly map <3

What puzzles me is why teentoonhamster got this interview? Shouldn't well known maple sites have exclusive interviews? The site that got the interview i never heard of until now :f6:

Most likely a)they tend to be very canned interviews(some major sites only care about such and such producers/publishers), and/or b)they don't want heavy attention.

There could be other factors such as what age group they are aiming for, nationality(websites aiming primarily at an [North]American audience) even income and personality type oddly enough.

As for a famous maplestory website? Name one that isn't forum based.
Forum interviews are somewhat annoying, sides take place, hence the forming of Nexons new forums. It keeps the ball in their court too with media relations being able to work more effectively.
While there are some nice forums out there, only a small percentage of players even visit them(less then 8% I've heard).

Stereo
2008-08-08, 02:23 PM
only a small percentage of players even visit them(less then 8% I've heard).

I'd estimate that less than 1% of maplers have even heard of this toontownhamster site, probably less than 0.01%. They probably just have an interviewer in the same city as Nexon's HQ :x

IsaacGS
2008-08-08, 02:59 PM
This "tentonhamster" website is like a kid's version of the more famous Ten Ton Hammer site, which is a fairly well known MMO site, however it's mostly about games like Everquest and WoW rather than Maple.

Sn1perJohnE
2008-08-08, 04:15 PM
This "tentonhamster" website is like a kid's version of the more famous Ten Ton Hammer site, which is a fairly well known MMO site, however it's mostly about games like Everquest and WoW rather than Maple.

sounds to me like they used the interveiw to advertise and attract attention.

Rain
2008-08-08, 06:44 PM
Wait did he just say we could craft weapons now?

Crafting weapons = Maker Skill
Maker Skill = Magatia
Magatia = Why the patch is taking so long.

Basic math :shine:

BladeHavoc
2008-08-08, 06:57 PM
Not exactly. Weapon forgery occurs in nearly every town, it doesn't refer directly to the alchemy skill.

iiMarik
2008-08-08, 07:03 PM
8th August now, what's happened? :f3:

Tamekii
2008-08-08, 07:05 PM
8th August now, what's happened? :f3:

Nexon is laughing at our desesperated & excited faces :D

IsaacGS
2008-08-08, 07:16 PM
Wait did he just say we could craft weapons now?

Crafting weapons = Maker Skill
Maker Skill = Magatia
Magatia = Why the patch is taking so long.

Basic math :shine:
There's a forging NPC in crimsonwood. >_>

Russt
2008-08-08, 08:58 PM
Crafting weapons e.g. Black Versal Materia + Blinking Dingbat + Dark Matter = Sirius Cloak Forging Manual. That kind of crafting weapons.

(That's the only one I know off the top of my head, since I did make three of them...)

And yes I do realize that a Sirius Cloak is not a weapon.

Tamekii
2008-08-08, 09:01 PM
I hope some of them will be not using iTCG @_@!!!


BTW...

200 POSTS D:

Russt
2008-08-08, 09:18 PM
Grats, Admiral Boom. (I don't quite understand the titles...)

And yeah, I hope so too, though it really wasn't that hard. I never bought any iTCG, I just bought the materials off people for cheap (back when most people were crazy for SCGs and had no time to consider the other items...) and forged the items that way. Cost less than buying them was, and now their value is like 5x what I spent. Already sold two, scrolled the third to 12 stats and I'm happy :D

/irrelevant anecdote

Tamekii
2008-08-08, 09:20 PM
Grats, Admiral Boom. (I don't quite understand the titles...)

And yeah, I hope so too, though it really wasn't that hard. I never bought any iTCG, I just bought the materials off people for cheap (back when most people were crazy for SCGs and had no time to consider the other items...) and forged the items that way. Cost less than buying them was, and now their value is like 5x what I spent. Already sold two, scrolled the third to 12 stats and I'm happy :D

/irrelevant anecdote
Thanks =D

And i bought iTCG one time...when OMGBosses come out...

i bought a Starter deck and three OMGBosses!...
But its hard to get more,since i live in Brazil ¬¬

._.

randompeep
2008-08-08, 09:27 PM
Do you get blocked from gms now, since you're in Brazil? It would make itcg useless there...

Tamekii
2008-08-08, 09:32 PM
Do you get blocked from gms now, since you're in Brazil? It would make itcg useless there...

No =)
gMS is the ONLY MapleStory i can play without proxys(except for BrazilMS,obvious..but BrazilMS is a FAIL..i have 87432 reasons to say that :D).

But NEXON said you cannot register,i never tried to register after 25th *Insert month here(was it June?May?)*

Rain
2008-08-08, 10:38 PM
There's a forging NPC in crimsonwood. >_>STOP HARSHING MY MELLOW!
*ahem* but we could at least hope for the best.
(have you ever been wrong on anything?)

IsaacGS
2008-08-08, 10:57 PM
STOP HARSHING MY MELLOW!
*ahem* but we could at least hope for the best.
(have you ever been wrong on anything?)

I've been wrong lots of times XD I'm just right enough to keep a good reputation. :p

randompeep
2008-08-08, 11:17 PM
I'm still hoping for something else besides CWK for this patch to be worth it... any suggestions? (my pick, based on my own opinion, is either Krakia or the Dragon Door. considering the Raven Ninjas' involvement at CWK, I think the Door is more likely. The Set 4 itcg thread made me wonder, but a few things made it seem fake.)

Tamekii
2008-08-08, 11:18 PM
No =)
gMS is the ONLY MapleStory i can play without proxys(except for BrazilMS,obvious..but BrazilMS is a FAIL..i have 87432 reasons to say that :D).

But NEXON said you cannot register,i never tried to register after 25th *Insert month here(was it June?May?)*

I never quoted myself

* - *

But,that thing NEXON said about IP Ban doesnt work at gMS,we from Brazil still can register accounts and play o.o



:chin:

ChaosCorpse
2008-08-08, 11:43 PM
3. Each time a company release a patch into a game it can changes things drastically. What impact do you expect to see in the Maple World?

Well, the changes affect the Maple World in some way, be it the items you'll receive from quests, having an additional goal to shoot for when battling bosses, crafting new weapons, exploring the areas, experiencing a different way of battling monsters or navigating new areas. Last year, New Leaf City re-energized the economy in terms of training and making items more available. Our players continue to enjoy the benefits of that update, so now we're adding some re-playability to the area and different portions of the game as well, for mid-level and high-level players.



Is my thinking too wishful to assume that Re-Playability could have something to do with the Monster Book? Really though, once this, alchemy forging, the Monster Book, and Time Temple all come out, I have nothing else that I care for them to add to GMS (Personally mind you; I don't care one way or the other about pirates).

Probably going to bite me back and turn out to just be a bunch of new backtracking quests. I like quests and all, but going from Nath to Omega back and forth can only be enjoyable so many times -_-

randompeep
2008-08-08, 11:46 PM
It could be worse. NLC -> Omega. (uh-oh)

Remember, their idea of "high-level" is 3rd job. (from what I read somewhere else)

Stereo
2008-08-09, 12:31 AM
Is my thinking too wishful to assume that Re-Playability could have something to do with the Monster Book? Really though, once this, alchemy forging, the Monster Book, and Time Temple all come out, I have nothing else that I care for them to add to GMS (Personally mind you; I don't care one way or the other about pirates).

Master Monsters (area bosses), more likely. :P

Slip
2008-08-09, 07:52 AM
Master Monsters (area bosses), more likely. :P

In addition to that, we're working on adding some additional platforming features, as well as the first round of Master Monsters, new bosses that provide a challenge for a wide range of levels.

"As well" to me means that they're adding "additional platforming features" and "Master Monsters".

Area Bosses are expected, but "platforming features" can range from a variety of things.

In my eyes, "platforming features" are bascially UI upgrades.

BrownTigga
2008-08-09, 08:20 AM
i hope its the jump down one

Kranzorbaken
2008-08-09, 09:39 AM
i would love the jump down skill/ ability/

silverquiver
2008-08-09, 10:17 AM
Is my thinking too wishful to assume that Re-Playability could have something to do with the Monster Book? Really though, once this, alchemy forging, the Monster Book, and Time Temple all come out, I have nothing else that I care for them to add to GMS (Personally mind you; I don't care one way or the other about pirates).


Well right now you may not have anything else you care for them to add to GMS but KMS will release something in the future you might go crazy over. KMS gives us things such as alchemy forging, monster book, and Time Temple. So who knows what the future might bring.

DumbApples
2008-08-09, 04:58 PM
On the last scream,the blue monster looks like its holding a gun,Im so excited for CWK!

Erich
2008-08-09, 05:18 PM
its not a gun, we went over this already

Afrobean
2008-08-09, 05:29 PM
its not a gun, we went over this already
It's being held like a gun.

Maplers don't hold "one hand" weapons in that hand, except for guns.

But that aside, it does appear to be some sort of one handed crossbow. Even so, this does not mean that the person is wrong to think it looks like a gun (guns and crossbows like this do share some common design elements), and it is certainly not wrong of them to be excited about this expansion either.

MechMike
2008-08-09, 05:45 PM
Anyone els think this place is going to be such a pain in an ass to get to yet so fun?


just look at all the portal options from the Redish trees that should be portals

Stereo
2008-08-09, 07:04 PM
Or the fact that as a monster it doesn't have to follow the player weapon wielding at all >_> Grendel the very Old is even humanoid and he holds his staff in the other hand.
http://www.mapletip.com/images/new-monsters/9001001.png

Gearfree
2008-08-09, 07:19 PM
Anyone els think this place is going to be such a pain in an ass to get to yet so fun?


just look at all the portal options from the Redish trees that should be portals

Oh yeah, its a complete maze that dead forest. I think the idea was to do a version of the forest from Ocarina of time.

I'm starting to think those meso bags are monsters, the worst kind too.
What happens if you touch em? They attack you? Or do they take a random amount of mesos?

We won't know the fine details on the area till the patch, so were gonna have to wait for patch night to get the gist of what these monsters are and here they are from. What they use as weapons included.

Afrobean
2008-08-09, 07:23 PM
Or the fact that as a monster it doesn't have to follow the player weapon wielding at all >_> Grendel the very Old is even humanoid and he holds his staff in the other hand.
http://www.mapletip.com/images/new-monsters/9001001.png
His stance is not indicative of a Mapler. NPCs (and monsters based on them) are not bound by the rules of Mapler physiology.

This monster, however, seems to have a Mapler at it's design core. That is to say, the elements of this monster could just as well be armor, weapons, skin, etc. that a Mapler could use on their own character. And if this were the case, the crossbow she is holding would need to be in the data as a gun or as a shield. That's all I'm saying.


I think the idea was to do a version of the forest from Ocarina of time.
Because the idea of a labyrinth-like forest was first seen in Ocarina of Time. Their ideas were definitely not influenced by World 5 of Super Mario World.

Russt
2008-08-09, 07:27 PM
Meh, SMW isn't exactly like that, because you do have a map that shows where the stages you've cleared/unlocked are.
Unless the GBA version is much different than the SNES version.

Afrobean
2008-08-09, 07:33 PM
Meh, SMW isn't exactly like that, because you do have a map that shows where the stages you've cleared/unlocked are.
Unless the GBA version is much different than the SNES version. The reason I mentioned the Forest of Illusion is because the developers cited it as inspiration in one of the interviews or Q&As or something.

Russt
2008-08-09, 07:48 PM
Okay...
Well it certainly isn't the first thing I'd think of, looking at Phantom Forest.