What SKILL build are you gonna do?

[EndlessAxis]

Okay so I havn't seen a thread like this one yet, I'm asking what skill build you gonna go for as in First job skiping straigh..w.e you get the point, Write down

Sub Class : Infighter Or Gunslinger
AP Build : Low Dex,Dexless,Dexless 10x wep user..etc etc
Any notes :
Build:

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So.. I'll start first

Sub Class : Infighter
AP Build : Dexless Timeless User
Any Notes : I'll be lvl 29:99% when their released
Build

LV 30:20 Straight,20 Somersault Kick,10 Dash,11Quick Motion,1IMHP
LV 30-33 :10 IMHP
LV 34 : 3 Mastery
Lv 35 : 5 Master , 1 booster
Lv 35-37 : 5 Booster, 7 Mastery
Lv 38 : 1 Screw Punch,9 mastery
LV 39-40 : 19 mastery
Lv 41 : 4 Screw Punch
Lv 42-47 : 20 Screw Punch , 1 Backspin
Lv 48-54 : 20 Double Upper, 2 Backspin
Lv 55-62 : 20 Backspin
Lv 62 : 8 Booster
Lv 66 : 10 MP Recovery, 10 Booster
Lv : 66- 70 20 Booster

Skills at lvl 70 ~
10 Dash (Max)
20 Straight (Max)
20 Summersault (Max)
11 Quick Motion
10 Improve Max HP Increase (Max)
20 Booster (Max)
19 Mastery (Max)
20 Backspin (Max)
20 Double Upper (Max)
20 Screw Punch (Max)
10 MP recovery (Max)
1 Oak Barrel

3rd Job
Too damn lazy to write the full way so
Max Stun Mastery, Then Energy Charge, Then 21 Buster
,Then Transform/shockwave and 20 Energy Drain

and I havn't planed for 4th job yet..so what are you gonna do?!

[Loose]

First job:
- 20 Sommersault Kick (41 SP)
- 20 Quick Motion (21 SP)
- 20 Straight Jab (1 SP)
- 1 Double Fire (0 SP)


Second job:
- 1 Backspin Blow (120 SP)
- 10 Improving MAX HP (110 SP)
- 8 Screw Punch (102 SP)
- 19 Knuckle Mastery (83 SP)
- 6 Knuckle Booster (77 SP)
- 20 Screw Punch (65 SP)
- 20 Double Uppercut (45 SP)
- 20 Knuckle Booster (31 SP)
- 10 MP Recovery (21 SP)
- 20 Backspin Blow (2 SP)
- 20 Knuckle Mastery (1 SP)
- 1 Oak Barrel (0 SP)

Third Job:
70: +1 Energy Charge(1)
71: +3 Energy Charge(4)
71: +2 Stun Mastery(2), +1 Energy Drain(1)
73: +3 Stun Mastery(5)
74: +3 Stun Mastery(8)
75: +3 Stun Mastery(11)
76: +3 Stun Mastery(14)
77: +3 Stun Mastery(17)
78: +3 Stun Mastery(20)
79: +1 Transform(1), +2 Shockwave(2)
80: +3 Shockwave(5)
81: +3 Shockwave(8)
82: +3 Shockwave(11)
83: +1 Energy Buster(1), +2 Energy Charge(6)
84: Max Energy Charge
xx: Max Transform
xx: Max Shockwave
xx: Max Energy Drain
xx: Leftovers to Buster

All of these might change when I try out the skills. I'm the kind of guy that likes to get all skills as soon as possible, so that I can have many options and see what feels good to play with. That's how I built my Chief Bandit.

[xDae]

First job:
- 1 Double Fire (0 SP)
Even if you hate Dash, and Infighter doesnt have the Dex to even warrent putting one point into DF. It isnt like a sindit where both classes put a majority into the same AP. DF damage is based on Dex, not Str

As for builds I guess Im just gonna follow the guide I make. Im sure I wont follow it to the letter though

[blitzkrieg]

He probably put it into Double Fire to not have to worry about always accidentally casting level 1 Dash and wasting MP. You can't do the second job advance unless you've used all your points and the only other place to put it is Double Fire.

[ItzTaylor]

Dash would still be more useful.

I always look at skills based on usefulness.

Thats why I chose Shield mastery over Chakra for my Shadower.
Basically because I would use it more. Pretty much every time I get hit.

I think dash would be useful even as a Infighter because you won't have Backstep Shot, FJ, or Haste.

Waste of MP? Not really, you must be jew if you worry about wasting MP.

Not like you have to Hot Key it either.

[Loose]

He probably put it into Double Fire to not have to worry about always accidentally casting level 1 Dash and wasting MP. You can't do the second job advance unless you've used all your points and the only other place to put it is Double Fire.
Yes, that's exactly why I'm putting the point on it. If Dash was on a separate key, like Haste, then I would probably max it or get more points on it. I just don't like the idea of pressing forward twice to activate it.

[blitzkrieg]

Waste of MP? Not really, you must be jew if you worry about wasting MP.

Not everyone is funded.


Yes, that's exactly why I'm putting the point on it. If Dash was on a separate key, like Haste, then I would probably max it or get more points on it. I just don't like the idea of pressing forward twice to activate it.

Actually, you can add it to a hotkey as well. I hardly ever double tap the arrow key to activate it, and instead leave it on a button.

[Viper]

Actually, you can add it to a hotkey as well. I hardly ever double tap the arrow key to activate it, and instead leave it on a button.

Well, that changes everything.. ;D

[RuneStriker]

Well, that changes everything.. ;D
Maybe not. I don't think Blitz is saying that if you hotkey it, the double-tap doesn't activate it as well.

If that's what he IS saying, then yes, that changes everything and I would definitely include Dash in my Infighter build.

However, I think he's just saying that you can hotkey the ability as well which gives you two options for activating it, but still leaves the original problem of accidentally activating it with the arrow keys.


Waste of MP? Not really, you must be jew if you worry about wasting MP. Beyond the borderline anti-semitism of your comment, which really doesn't belong here, you've got to be a true noob not to be worried about spending as much MP on a lvl 1 skill by accident as you would for a maxed lvl of any other skill in the same job. Especially in a class like Pirates which will deplete their MP faster than almost any other class will.

Plus, by activating it when you don't want to it could cost you in terms of other resources beyond just the MP as you lose some control over your now boosted character and mis-time a jump, run through a lava/gas vent too early, rush an enemy too quickly to get the attack in before you take bump damage, etc.

Funded or not, good resource management and character control is something any intelligent Mapler is concerned with which is why there is so much concern over the activation mechanism of Dash.

If Teleport worked on the same activation mechanism, I can guarantee that most mages would NOT put their first point into Teleport at lvl 30 and many wouldn't begin to put any points into it until they had saved almost half the SP to max it, because even for a class which regenerates MP by breathing the wasted cost and control associated with accidentally activating it would be detrimental to the overall training schemes of the class.

[ItzTaylor]

Omg I lost MP, it's not the end of the world. You make it seem like it is. Calm down there.

Theres a reason for MP pots. 1 MP pot won't ruin your whole financial budget.

And once again, you can't accidentally hit it if you set it to a different key, like Blitz says you can.

You are looking way too deep into 1 simple thing. You worry too much over the littlest crap. Continue and you'll become a miserable wreck.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/Paulos2005/Pirates/skill5001005iconMouseOver.pngDash
Description: Momentarily increases speed and jump by double-tapping either the left or the right directional key.
Comment: This move disables itself if you stand still for too long.
Max Level: 10

Level 01: MP - 14 / Speed +12 / Jump +1 / 4 seconds

Oh no - 14 MP, and 4 seconds of your life. If you have to be funded to afford -14 MP, then your doing something wrong. And if you constantly make the mistake of tapping your arrow key twice, costing you to lose a large sum of money, you really need to stop playing.

Calling me a noob, and anti-antisemitic.

Bit of a hypocrite on the noob part.

Don't mean to flame. You just need a stop worrying about the littlest shit in a video game. (that rhymed) :wink:

[RuneStriker]

And once again, you can't accidentally hit it if you set it to a different key, like Blitz says you can.

Again, if that IS was Blitz is saying, then yes it will alleviate the issue. But I don't get that interpretation from what he wrote. Instead I think he means that you have two different options of activation - one of Nexon's chosing and one of the your own.

Also, no one else who has played a Pirate has come foward to confirm this is the case. In fact, even they are stating that you may want to put your 1 point into DS instead of Dash if your an Infighter taking that type of build, so I'd be doubly surprised to learn that Blitz found out a way of working around Nexon's activation scheme that no other Mapler has ever discovered.


You are looking way too deep into 1 simple thing. You worry too much over the littlest crap. Continue and you'll become a miserable wreck.

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Oh no - 14 MP, and 4 seconds of your life. If you have to be funded to afford -14 MP, then your doing something wrong. And if you constantly make the mistake of tapping your arrow key twice, costing you to lose a large sum of money, you really need to stop playing.

Double-tapping on the arrow key is a very common occurrance for many people in positioning their character. I think the most common occurance would be hitting a monster and knocking it back just out of your close combat range (think dagger range rather than 2-sword range since we're talking about Knuckles here) then double-tapping to position oneself back into range for another blow while the monster is in flinch mode. Happens all the time until you can pin them against something they can't move beyond/across so they remain within your range.

Considering the amount of frustration that's already been discussed about the 2 second cool down for some of the other Pirate powers and the similar discussions about Final Attack delays for Warriors/Bowman which I have personally experienced, I think the concern over the momentary delay is justified. Although your 4 seconds is obviously an exaggeration for the point of the discussion, it's still an issue of throwing your timing and sense of distance off whenever it activates unexpectedly which will lead to more of a loss than just the 14 MP in many cases. And since this effect is with you for the rest of your Maple career as a Pirate, unlike things like FA which only work in relation to certain powers and can be worked around, it will always be a concern. I threw in the obvious exaggeration in reference to teleport to try and emphasize the collateral effect that unwanted activation could have.



Calling me a noob, and anti-antisemitic.
Bit of a hypocrite on the noob part:wink:
Hypocrite - no. Was it a justified name to throw at you - no - and that's a bad on my part. For that I apologize.

For the anti-semitic part though, your comment is borderline as I said. Any derogitory comment being related to the Jewish religion is the definition of Anti-Semitism. To state that someone who is being thrifty is Jew with that negative connotation is pretty much spot on with the definition.

[EndlessAxis]

guys even if you have dash on a key it dosn't stop the auto-activation via double tapping left/right ,and yeah if your not gonna max it double shot lvl 1 is a better choice
lvl 1 dash WILL really mess with you sometimes , after typing you usualy double tap the dirrection you want ..etc so it can be extremley anoying and accidently dashing at a boss can cost you the run so...even if you have it maxed it may be a liability

[xDae]

Well I think we need to be told what constitutes as a double-tap

Like do you have to "tap,tap" to activate or if I go "tap.......tap" will it activate.

Hard to explain through typing but I hope you understand what I mean

[Spadow]

If you put 1 point into Dash it automatically triggers the activation when you tap left or right. And you are able to put Dash on another hotkey, for example my Dash hotkey is on ''`'', i can either press ''`'' or tap left or right to activate Dash.

[EndlessAxis]

its more like "tap,tap" ..you gotta do it imideatly after the first tap, i noticed this happning to me alot when i'm changin dirrections...you got like..rougly a 35th-45th of a second to do the second tap...

[ItzTaylor]

Hypocrite - no. Was it a justified name to throw at you - no - and that's a bad on my part. For that I apologize.



Apology accepted! :f2:

[Worthyness]

Does dash' gift of mobility override its annoying-ness with the double tap?

I want to decide this soon. I kinda want max dash cause it looks nice and Speed is also a nice thing to have... but i haven't played a pirate yet, so i wouldn't know.=P

[blitzkrieg]

Sorry I didn't clarify my post better. I also didn't see the debate going on in this thread until now.. o_o; Yeah, like the others were saying, setting it to a key opens up two options: either pressing the key or double tapping the arrow keys in a quick succession. It's a really useful skill as a Gunslinger but as an Infighter the other first job skills are more important than some extra speed.

[Worthyness]

Why couldn't they just make this an option:

asssigned to a key, activate only through there. not assigned, 2 tap option.

Unless it is some unreasonable programming i guess...

EDIT:

So is 1 dash effective enough for an Infighter?

or would it be okay to ditch some Quick motion?

My build Would be this way (probably highly ineffective for training I'll bet)

max punchy skill
max dash
15 quick motion
16 flip kick thingy


Reasoning being that both skills are useless later on anyway and 5 accuracy/avoid isn't much to lose out on...

Criticism please =) -just a note: I don't usually follow conventional builds (my lolFail 12 FA ranger as an example). I just like people telling me what i should or should not do =P

[Loose]

They wanted it to feel like other games by force?

I don't really see a problem with not maxing it. The only place I would probably use it would be to get from town A to place B. But I could just use the beginner skill for that. While in mobs, I can just Elbow and Screw from monster to monster.

[EndlessAxis]

lol loose when i read that for a second i thoght you wrote i can screw monsters XDDDD

anyways i suggest if your not gonna max dash leave it at 0 cus lvl 1 day is just a pain in the rear anal section

[SeiiShir0u]

Sub Class : Infighter
AP Build : Dexless lvl 100 wapon
Any notes : gonna try it with FS and STR overall got lvl 29 with 98% already
Build: The build is kinda hard but im gonna do the same as most other ppl only i wont do Recovery
i will do strike and backspin hit at first job
and will do less quick motion and i will add more quick motion instaid of recovery
(i think i need the accy cus i will have str overall :heart:)

and for 4thjob guild im gonna do this

4th job

120= 1 Dragon Strike 1 Fist 1 wind booster
121= 1 Super Transform 1 Demolition 1 Time Leap
125= 11 wind booster 2 left
134= 30 Fist 0 left
144= 30 Dragon Strike 0left
151= 20 Super Transform 2left
160= 30 Demolition
163= 9mw

im still thinking about about lvl 144+ to mabby do 2 Demolition 1 insanity till 160
or mabby leviathan after blind and Super Transform but ill need to see
i will do MW late cus i will always train with other ppl with mw and mostly mw20
after 163 i will max mw to 19 and then i need to see what skill is good to use :redface:

[xDae]

Sub Class : Infighter
AP Build : Dexless lvl 100 wapon
Any notes : gonna try it with FS and STR overall got lvl 29 with 98% already
Build: The build is kinda hard but im gonna do the same as most other ppl only i wont do Recovery
i will do strike and backspin hit at first job
and will do less quick motion and i will add more quick motion instaid of recovery
(i think i need the accy cus i will have str overall :heart:)

and for 4thjob guild im gonna do this

4th job

120= 1 leviathan 1sonic blast 1 booster
121= 1 insanity 1 blind strike 1 countdown
125= 11 booster 2 left
134= 30 sonic blast 0 left
144= 30 leviathan 0left
151= 20 insanity 2left
160= 30 blindstrike
163= 9mw

im still thinking about about lvl 144+ to mabby do 2 blind strike 1 insanity till 160
or mabby leviathan after blind and insanity but ill need to see
i will do MW late cus i will always train with other ppl with mw and mostly mw20
after 163 i will max mw to 19 and then i need to see what skill is good to use :redface:
Uh.....what skills are you talking about?

[SeiiShir0u]

sry those where the old names (i made this long time ago:P)
ill edit them

Edit: done:)

[xDae]

Wind Booster.....

[lord farkuad]

Sub Class: Infighter
Build: Dexless Timeless User
Notes: going for one of the strongest bucc/viper in windia, as well as solo pap at 80
Skill Build: 11 QM
20 somersault kick
20 straight
10 dash

(in second job i do the normal build, but where i do mp recovery i put QM instead so by the end of second job i have maxed QM)

[Worthyness]

This any good? i kinda wanna test dash before i get it tho...

max punchy skill
max dash
15 quick motion
16 flip kick thingy

max 1v1 skill and 6 attacking mob skill. Since both become obsolete either way 0_o

[xDae]

This any good? i kinda wanna test dash before i get it tho...

max punchy skill
max dash
15 quick motion
16 flip kick thingy

max 1v1 skill and 6 attacking mob skill. Since both become obsolete either way 0_o
You NEED to max Straight and Somersault Kick

[lord farkuad]

yeah as with what xDae said............................................^
im doing the build that i mentioned...................................^^
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[KaidaTan]

Here's my build. Gonna go Dexless Infighter.

10: +1 Straight [1]
11: +3 Somersault Kick [3]
12: +3 Somersault Kick [6]
13: +3 Somersault Kick [9]
14: +3 Somersault Kick [12]
15: +3 Somersault Kick [15]
16: +1 Somersault Kick [16], +2 Straight [3]
17: +3 Straight [6]
18: +3 Straight [9]
19: +3 Straight [12]
20: +3 Straight [15]
21: +3 Straight [18]
22: +2 Straight [20], +1 Somersault Kick [17]
23: +3 Somersault Kick [20]
24: +3 Quick Motion [3]
25: +3 Quick Motion [6]
26: +3 Quick Motion [9]
27: +3 Quick Motion [12]
28: +3 Quick Motion [15]
29: +3 Quick Motion [18]
30: +2 Quick Motion [20], +1 Double Fire [1]30: +1 Improving Max HP Increase [1]
31: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [4]
32: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [7]
33: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [10]
34: +3 Knuckle Mastery [3]
35: +3 Knuckle Mastery [6]
36: +3 Knuckle Mastery [9]
37: +3 Knuckle Mastery [12]
38: +3 Knuckle Mastery [15]
39: +3 Knuckle Mastery [18]
40: +1 Knuckle Mastery [19], +2 Knuckle Booster [2]
41: +3 Knuckle Booster [5]
42: +3 Knuckle Booster [8]
43: +3 Screw Punch [3]
44: +3 Screw Punch [6]
45: +3 Screw Punch [9]
46: +3 Screw Punch [12]
47: +3 Screw Punch [15]
48: +3 Screw Punch [18]
49: +2 Screw Punch [20], +1 Backspin Blow [1]
50: +3 Double Upper [3]
51: +3 Double Upper [6]
52: +3 Double Upper [9]
53: +3 Double Upper [12]
54: +3 Double Upper [15]
55: +3 Double Upper [18]
56: +2 Double Upper [20], +1 Knuckle Booster [9]
57: +3 Knuckle Booster [12]
58: +3 Knuckle Booster [15]
59: +3 Knuckle Booster [18]
60: +2 Knuckle Booster [20], +1 Backspin Blow [2]
61: +3 Backspin Blow [5]
62: +3 Backspin Blow [8]
63: +3 Backspin Blow [11]
64: +3 Backspin Blow [14]
65: +3 Backspin Blow [17]
66: +3 Backspin Blow [20]
67: +3 MP Recovery [3]
68: +3 MP Recovery [6]
69: +3 MP Recovery [9]
70: +1 MP Recovery [10], +1 Oak Barrel [1], +1 Knuckle Mastery [20]70: +1 Energy Charge [1]
71: +3 Energy Charge [4]
72: +1 Transform [1], +1 Shockwave [1], +1 Energy Charge [5]
73: +3 Energy Charge [8]
74: +3 Energy Charge [11]
75: +3 Energy Charge [14]
76: +3 Energy Charge [17]
77: +3 Energy Charge [20]
78: +3 Energy Charge [23]
79: +3 Energy Charge [26]
80: +3 Energy Charge [29]
81: +3 Energy Charge [32]
82: +3 Energy Charge [35]
83: +3 Energy Charge [38]
84: +2 Energy Charge [40], +1 Stun Mastery [1]
85: +3 Stun Mastery [4]
86: +3 Stun Mastery [7]
87: +3 Stun Mastery [10]
88: +3 Stun Mastery [13]
89: +3 Stun Mastery [16]
90: +3 Stun Mastery [19]
91: +1 Stun Mastery [20], +2 Shockwave [3]
92: +3 Shockwave [6]
93: +3 Shockwave [9]
94: +3 Shockwave [12]
95: +3 Shockwave [15]
96: +3 Shockwave [18]
97: +3 Shockwave [21]
98: +1 Energy Buster [1], +2 Transform [3]
99: +3 Transform [6]
100: +3 Transform [9]
101: +3 Transform [12]
102: +3 Transform [15]
103: +3 Transform [18]
104: +2 Transform [20], +1 Shockwave [22]
105: +3 Shockwave [25]
106: +3 Shockwave [28]
107: +2 Shockwave [30], +1 Energy Drain [1]
108: +3 Energy Drain [4]
109: +3 Energy Drain [7]
110: +3 Energy Drain [10]
111: +3 Energy Drain [13]
112: +3 Energy Drain [16]
113: +3 Energy Drain [19]
114: +1 Energy Drain [20], +2 Energy Buster [3]
115: +3 Energy Buster [6]
116: +3 Energy Buster [9]
117: +3 Energy Buster [12]
118: +3 Oak Barrel [4]
119: +3 Oak Barrel [7]
120: +3 Oak Barrel [10]120: +1 Fist [1], +2 Wind Booster [2]
121: +3 Wind Booster [5]
122: +3 Wind Booster [8]
123: +3 Wind Booster [11]
124: +1 Super Transform [1], +1 Demolition [1], +1 Snatch [1]
125: +3 Fist [4]
126: +3 Fist [7]
127: +3 Fist [10]
128: +1 Fist [11], +2 Dragon Strike [2]
129: +3 Dragon Strike [5]
130: +3 Dragon Strike [8]
131: +3 Dragon Strike [11]
132: +3 Dragon Strike [14]
133: +3 Dragon Strike [17]
134: +3 Dragon Strike [20]
135: +1 Dragon Strike [21], +2 Demolition [3]
136: +3 Demolition [6]
137: +3 Demolition [9]
138: +2 Demolition [11], +1 Time Leap [1]
139: +3 Super Transform [4]
140: +3 Super Transform [7]
141: +3 Super Transform [10]
142: +3 Super Transform [13]
143: +3 Super Transform [16]
144: +3 Super Transform [19]
145: +1 Super Transform [20], +2 Demolition [13]
146: +3 Demolition [16]
147: +3 Demolition [19]
148: +2 Demolition [21], +1 Fist [12]
149: +3 Fist [15]
150: +3 Fist [18]
151: +3 Fist [21]
152: +3 Demolition [24]
153: +3 Demolition [27]
154: +3 Demolition [30]
155: +3 Fist [24]
156: +3 Fist [27]
157: +3 Fist [30]
158: +3 Dragon Strike [24]
159: +3 Dragon Strike [27]
160: +3 Dragon Strike [30]
161: +3 Maple Warrior [3]
162: +3 Maple Warrior [6]
163: +3 Maple Warrior [9]
164: +3 Maple Warrior [12]
165: +3 Maple Warrior [15]
166: +3 Maple Warrior [18]
167: +2 Maple Warrior [20], +1 Time Leap [2]
168: +3 Time Leap [5]
169: +3 Time Leap [8]
170: +3 Time Leap [11]
171: +3 Time Leap [14]
172: +3 Time Leap [17]
173: +3 Time Leap [20]
174: +3 Time Leap [23]
175: +3 Time Leap [26]
176: +3 Time Leap [29]
177: +1 Time Leap [30], +1 Energy Orb [1], +1 Snatch [2]
178: +3 Snatch [5]
179: +3 Snatch [8]
180: +3 Snatch [11]
181: +3 Snatch [14]
182: +3 Snatch [17]
183: +3 Snatch [20]
184: +3 Snatch [23]
185: +2 Snatch [25], +1 Wind Booster [12]
186: +3 Wind Booster [15]
187: +3 Wind Booster [18]
188: +2 Wind Booster [20], +1 Snatch [26]
189: +3 Snatch [29]
190: +1 Snatch [30], +2 Energy Orb [3]
191: +3 Energy Orb [6]
192: +3 Energy Orb [9]
193: +3 Energy Orb [12]
194: +3 Energy Orb [15]
195: +3 Energy Orb [18]
196: +3 Energy Orb [21]
197: +3 Energy Orb [24]
198: +3 Energy Orb [27]
199: +3 Energy Orb [30]
200: +3 Double Fire [4]
Short Version
End of 1st Job:
20 Quick Motion
20 Straight
20 Somersault Kick
1 Double Fire

End of 2nd Job:
10 Improving Max HP Increase
20 Knucke Mastery
20 Knuckle Booster
20 Backspin Blow
20 Double Upper
20 Screw Punch
10 MP Recovery
1 Oak Barrel

End of 3rd Job:
20 Stun Mastery
40 Energy Charge
12 Energy Buster
20 Energy Drain
20 Transform
30 Shockwave
10 Oak Barrel

End of 4th Job:
Max everything. (Except Dash and Energy Buster)

[Beaner]

alex, i am stealing your format cuz i am lazy

Dexless infighter, V0.1

10: +1 Straight [1]
11: +1 Somersault Kick [1], +2 Straight [3]
12: +3 Straight [6]
13: +3 Straight [9]
14: +3 Straight [12]
15: +3 Straight [15]
16: +3 Straight [18]
17: +2 Straight [20], +1 Somersault Kick [2]
18: +3 Somersault Kick [5]
19: +3 Somersault Kick [8]
20: +3 Somersault Kick [11]
21: +3 Somersault Kick [14]
22: +3 Somersault Kick [17]
23: +3 Somersault Kick [20]
24: +3 Quick Motion [3]
25: +3 Quick Motion [6]
26: +3 Quick Motion [9]
27: +3 Quick Motion [12]
28: +3 Quick Motion [15]
29: +3 Quick Motion [18]
30: +2 Quick Motion [20], +1 Double Fire [1]

30: +1 Improving Max HP Increase [1]
31: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [4]
32: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [7]
33: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [10]
34: +3 Knuckle Mastery [3]
35: +3 Knuckle Mastery [6]
36: +3 Knuckle Booster [3]
37: +2 Knuckle Booster [6]
38: +3 Knuckle Mastery [9]
39: +3 Knuckle Mastery [12]
40: +3 Knuckle Mastery [15]
41: +3 Knuckle Mastery [18]
42: +1 Knuckle Mastery [19], +1 Screw Punch [1], +1 Backspin Blow [1]
43: +3 Double Upper [3]
44: +3 Double Upper [6]
45: +3 Double Upper [9]
46: +3 Double Upper [12]
47: +3 Double Upper [15]
48: +3 Double Upper [18]
49: +2 Double Upper [20], +1 Knuckle Booster [7]
50: +3 Knuckle Booster [10]
51: +3 Screw Punch [4]
52: +3 Screw Punch [7]
53: +3 Screw Punch [10]
54: +3 Screw Punch [13]
55: +3 Screw Punch [16]
56: +3 Screw Punch [19]
57: +1 Screw Punch [20], +2 Knuckle Booster [12]
58: +3 Knuckle Booster [15]
59: +3 Knuckle Booster [18]
60: +2 Knuckle Booster [20], +1 Backspin Blow [2]
61: +3 Backspin Blow [5]
62: +3 Backspin Blow [8]
63: +3 Backspin Blow [11]
64: +3 Backspin Blow [14]
65: +3 Backspin Blow [17]
66: +3 Backspin Blow [20]
67: +3 MP Recovery [3]
68: +3 MP Recovery [6]
69: +3 MP Recovery [9]
70: +1 MP Recovery [10], +1 Oak Barrel [1], +1 Knuckle Mastery [20]

70: +1 Energy Charge [1]
71: +3 Energy Charge [4]
72: +1 Transform [1], +1 Shockwave [1], +1 Energy Charge [5]
73: +3 Energy Charge [8]
74: +3 Energy Charge [11]
75: +3 Energy Charge [14]
76: +3 Energy Charge [17]
77: +3 Energy Charge [20]
78: +3 Energy Charge [23]
79: +3 Energy Charge [26]
80: +3 Energy Charge [29]
81: +3 Energy Charge [32]
82: +3 Energy Charge [35]
83: +3 Energy Charge [38]
84: +2 Energy Charge [40], +1 Stun Mastery [1]
85: +3 Stun Mastery [4]
86: +3 Stun Mastery [7]
87: +3 Stun Mastery [10]
88: +3 Stun Mastery [13]
89: +3 Stun Mastery [16]
90: +3 Stun Mastery [19]
91: +1 Stun Mastery [20], +1 Energy Dran [1], +1 Shockwave [2]
92: +3 Shockwave [5]
93: +3 Shockwave [8]
94: +3 Shockwave [11]
95: +3 Shockwave [14]
96: +3 Shockwave [17]
97: +3 Shockwave [20]
98: +1 Shockwave [21], +2 Transform [3]
99: +3 Transform [6]
100: +3 Transform [9]
101: +3 Transform [12]
102: +3 Transform [15]
103: +3 Transform [18]
104: +2 Transform [20], +1 Shockwave [22]
105: +3 Shockwave [25]
106: +3 Shockwave [28]
107: +2 Shockwave [30], +1 Energy Drain [2]
108: +3 Energy Drain [5]
109: +3 Energy Drain [8]
110: +3 Energy Drain [11]
111: +3 Energy Drain [14]
112: +3 Energy Drain [17]
113: +3 Energy Drain [20]
114: +3 Energy Buster [3]
115: +3 Energy Buster [6]
116: +3 Energy Buster [9]
117: +3 Energy Buster [12]
118: +3 Oak Barrel [4]
119: +3 Oak Barrel [7]
120: +3 Oak Barrel [10]

120: +1 Fist [1], +2 Wind Booster [2]
121: +3 Wind Booster [5]
122: +3 Wind Booster [8]
123: +3 Wind Booster [11]
124: +1 Super Transform [1], +1 Demolition [1], +1 Snatch [1]
125: +3 Fist [4]
126: +3 Fist [7]
127: +3 Fist [10]
128: +1 Fist [11], +2 Dragon Strike [2]
129: +3 Dragon Strike [5]
130: +3 Dragon Strike [8]
131: +3 Dragon Strike [11]
132: +3 Dragon Strike [14]
133: +3 Dragon Strike [17]
134: +3 Dragon Strike [20]
135: +1 Dragon Strike [21], +2 Demolition [3]
136: +3 Demolition [6]
137: +3 Demolition [9]
138: +2 Demolition [11], +1 Time Leap [1]
139: +3 Super Transform [4]
140: +3 Super Transform [7]
141: +3 Super Transform [10]
142: +3 Super Transform [13]
143: +3 Super Transform [16]
144: +3 Super Transform [19]
145: +1 Super Transform [20], +2 Demolition [13]
146: +3 Demolition [16]
147: +3 Demolition [19]
148: +2 Demolition [21], +1 Fist [12]
149: +3 Fist [15]
150: +3 Fist [18]
151: +3 Fist [21]
152: +3 Demolition [24]
153: +3 Demolition [27]
154: +3 Demolition [30]
155: +3 Fist [24]
156: +3 Fist [27]
157: +3 Fist [30]
158: +3 Dragon Strike [24]
159: +3 Dragon Strike [27]
160: +3 Dragon Strike [30]
161: +3 Maple Warrior [3]
162: +3 Maple Warrior [6]
163: +3 Maple Warrior [9]
164: +3 Maple Warrior [12]
165: +3 Maple Warrior [15]
166: +3 Maple Warrior [18]
167: +2 Maple Warrior [20], +1 Time Leap [2]
168: +3 Time Leap [5]
169: +3 Time Leap [8]
170: +3 Time Leap [11]
171: +3 Time Leap [14]
172: +3 Time Leap [17]
173: +3 Time Leap [20]
174: +3 Time Leap [23]
175: +3 Time Leap [26]
176: +3 Time Leap [29]
177: +1 Time Leap [30], +1 Energy Orb [1], +1 Snatch [2]
178: +3 Snatch [5]
179: +3 Snatch [8]
180: +3 Snatch [11]
181: +3 Snatch [14]
182: +3 Snatch [17]
183: +3 Snatch [20]
184: +3 Snatch [23]
185: +2 Snatch [25], +1 Wind Booster [12]
186: +3 Wind Booster [15]
187: +3 Wind Booster [18]
188: +2 Wind Booster [20], +1 Snatch [26]
189: +3 Snatch [29]
190: +1 Snatch [30], +2 Energy Orb [3]
191: +3 Energy Orb [6]
192: +3 Energy Orb [9]
193: +3 Energy Orb [12]
194: +3 Energy Orb [15]
195: +3 Energy Orb [18]
196: +3 Energy Orb [21]
197: +3 Energy Orb [24]
198: +3 Energy Orb [27]
199: +3 Energy Orb [30]
200: +3 Double Fire [4]


Short Version
End of 1st Job:
20 Quick Motion
20 Straight
20 Somersault Kick
1 Double Fire

End of 2nd Job:
10 Improving Max HP Increase
20 Knucke Mastery
20 Knuckle Booster
20 Backspin Blow
20 Double Upper
20 Screw Punch
10 MP Recovery
1 Oak Barrel

End of 3rd Job:
20 Stun Mastery
40 Energy Charge
12 Energy Buster
20 Energy Drain
20 Transform
30 Shockwave
10 Oak Barrel

End of 4th Job:
Max everything. (Except Dash and Energy Buster).

i changed a few things in 1st job, i rather do 1vs1 than mobs, people always say mobs is better however i never found a good place where "mobs" cn be found in large groups. magicians lv the fastest in 1st job with a 1vs1 skill and i guess i am used to bowman cuz i feel 1 vs 1 is the way to go.

Second job, i see backspin blow and screw punch as skills used to make mobs and kil them, lv 1 is enough for them. Rather work on double upper for damage since they all have delay and cant be spammed. I also got some booster early because i cant live witout it.

Only noticeable change in 3rd job is level 1 energy drain, passive skill that steals hp and adds dmg? giv nao!! also left energy buster at 0 till the end since i dont see myself trowing orbs for lulz dmg.

Fourth job is pretty much unchanged i need to study it more before i decide.

Credits: KaidaTan for making the basic build, hope you dont mind my changes, i think this way it be more efective, at least for me.

[0mgP1r4tes]

Only niticeable change in 3rd job is level 1 energy drain, passive skill that steals hp and adds dmg? giv nao!!
Its an active skill I believe

I dont see the point in NOT maxing Buster. Its spammable, it does pretty decent damage, so....yea

And anyone who maxes Wind Booster is lulz. Do you really need 300 seconds of booster compared to maxing an attacking skill?

[Beaner]

Its an active skill I believe

it doesnt have an mp consuption so i figured its passive. would need confirmation on this i guess.

skill
Energy Drain
Description: By using energy, changes a part of the enemy's HP into your HP. It can only be used while the energy is completely charged.
Pre-requisite: Energy Charge Level 1
Max Level: 20

Level 01: Damage 265% / 11% of damage converted to HP / 200% Range


buster suffers from the chain lightning sindrome, halved damage after every monster hit. infighters have plenty of strong mob skills, no need for a weak one. (weak compared to the others)

[0mgP1r4tes]

it doesnt have an mp consuption so i figured its passive. would need confirmation on this i guess.

skill
Energy Drain
Description: By using energy, changes a part of the enemy's HP into your HP. It can only be used while the energy is completely charged.
Pre-requisite: Energy Charge Level 1
Max Level: 20

Level 01: Damage 265% / 11% of damage converted to HP / 200% Range


buster suffers from the chain lightning sindrome, halved damage after every monster hit. infighters have plenty of strong mob skills, no need for a weak one. (weak compared to the others)
MP Recovery has no mp cost, but it is also active

Also, Energy Buster does not halve its damage, Energy Orb does.

[Beaner]

mp recovery has a HP cost, it takes HP to heal MP, it has a cost.

[Mark]

Here's my build. Gonna go Dexless Infighter.

10: +1 Straight [1]
11: +3 Somersault Kick [3]
12: +3 Somersault Kick [6]
13: +3 Somersault Kick [9]
14: +3 Somersault Kick [12]
15: +3 Somersault Kick [15]
16: +1 Somersault Kick [16], +2 Straight [3]
17: +3 Straight [6]
18: +3 Straight [9]
19: +3 Straight [12]
20: +3 Straight [15]
21: +3 Straight [18]
22: +2 Straight [20], +1 Somersault Kick [17]
23: +3 Somersault Kick [20]
24: +3 Quick Motion [3]
25: +3 Quick Motion [6]
26: +3 Quick Motion [9]
27: +3 Quick Motion [12]
28: +3 Quick Motion [15]
29: +3 Quick Motion [18]
30: +2 Quick Motion [20], +1 Double Fire [1]30: +1 Improving Max HP Increase [1]
31: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [4]
32: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [7]
33: +3 Improving Max HP Increase [10]
34: +3 Knuckle Mastery [3]
35: +3 Knuckle Mastery [6]
36: +3 Knuckle Mastery [9]
37: +3 Knuckle Mastery [12]
38: +3 Knuckle Mastery [15]
39: +3 Knuckle Mastery [18]
40: +1 Knuckle Mastery [19], +2 Knuckle Booster [2]
41: +3 Knuckle Booster [5]
42: +3 Knuckle Booster [8]
43: +3 Screw Punch [3]
44: +3 Screw Punch [6]
45: +3 Screw Punch [9]
46: +3 Screw Punch [12]
47: +3 Screw Punch [15]
48: +3 Screw Punch [18]
49: +2 Screw Punch [20], +1 Backspin Blow [1]
50: +3 Double Upper [3]
51: +3 Double Upper [6]
52: +3 Double Upper [9]
53: +3 Double Upper [12]
54: +3 Double Upper [15]
55: +3 Double Upper [18]
56: +2 Double Upper [20], +1 Knuckle Booster [9]
57: +3 Knuckle Booster [12]
58: +3 Knuckle Booster [15]
59: +3 Knuckle Booster [18]
60: +2 Knuckle Booster [20], +1 Backspin Blow [2]
61: +3 Backspin Blow [5]
62: +3 Backspin Blow [8]
63: +3 Backspin Blow [11]
64: +3 Backspin Blow [14]
65: +3 Backspin Blow [17]
66: +3 Backspin Blow [20]
67: +3 MP Recovery [3]
68: +3 MP Recovery [6]
69: +3 MP Recovery [9]
70: +1 MP Recovery [10], +1 Oak Barrel [1], +1 Knuckle Mastery [20]70: +1 Energy Charge [1]
71: +3 Energy Charge [4]
72: +1 Transform [1], +1 Shockwave [1], +1 Energy Charge [5]
73: +3 Energy Charge [8]
74: +3 Energy Charge [11]
75: +3 Energy Charge [14]
76: +3 Energy Charge [17]
77: +3 Energy Charge [20]
78: +3 Energy Charge [23]
79: +3 Energy Charge [26]
80: +3 Energy Charge [29]
81: +3 Energy Charge [32]
82: +3 Energy Charge [35]
83: +3 Energy Charge [38]
84: +2 Energy Charge [40], +1 Stun Mastery [1]
85: +3 Stun Mastery [4]
86: +3 Stun Mastery [7]
87: +3 Stun Mastery [10]
88: +3 Stun Mastery [13]
89: +3 Stun Mastery [16]
90: +3 Stun Mastery [19]
91: +1 Stun Mastery [20], +2 Shockwave [3]
92: +3 Shockwave [6]
93: +3 Shockwave [9]
94: +3 Shockwave [12]
95: +3 Shockwave [15]
96: +3 Shockwave [18]
97: +3 Shockwave [21]
98: +1 Energy Buster [1], +2 Transform [3]
99: +3 Transform [6]
100: +3 Transform [9]
101: +3 Transform [12]
102: +3 Transform [15]
103: +3 Transform [18]
104: +2 Transform [20], +1 Shockwave [22]
105: +3 Shockwave [25]
106: +3 Shockwave [28]
107: +2 Shockwave [30], +1 Energy Drain [1]
108: +3 Energy Drain [4]
109: +3 Energy Drain [7]
110: +3 Energy Drain [10]
111: +3 Energy Drain [13]
112: +3 Energy Drain [16]
113: +3 Energy Drain [19]
114: +1 Energy Drain [20], +2 Energy Buster [3]
115: +3 Energy Buster [6]
116: +3 Energy Buster [9]
117: +3 Energy Buster [12]
118: +3 Oak Barrel [4]
119: +3 Oak Barrel [7]
120: +3 Oak Barrel [10]120: +1 Fist [1], +2 Wind Booster [2]
121: +3 Wind Booster [5]
122: +3 Wind Booster [8]
123: +3 Wind Booster [11]
124: +1 Super Transform [1], +1 Demolition [1], +1 Snatch [1]
125: +3 Fist [4]
126: +3 Fist [7]
127: +3 Fist [10]
128: +1 Fist [11], +2 Dragon Strike [2]
129: +3 Dragon Strike [5]
130: +3 Dragon Strike [8]
131: +3 Dragon Strike [11]
132: +3 Dragon Strike [14]
133: +3 Dragon Strike [17]
134: +3 Dragon Strike [20]
135: +1 Dragon Strike [21], +2 Demolition [3]
136: +3 Demolition [6]
137: +3 Demolition [9]
138: +2 Demolition [11], +1 Time Leap [1]
139: +3 Super Transform [4]
140: +3 Super Transform [7]
141: +3 Super Transform [10]
142: +3 Super Transform [13]
143: +3 Super Transform [16]
144: +3 Super Transform [19]
145: +1 Super Transform [20], +2 Demolition [13]
146: +3 Demolition [16]
147: +3 Demolition [19]
148: +2 Demolition [21], +1 Fist [12]
149: +3 Fist [15]
150: +3 Fist [18]
151: +3 Fist [21]
152: +3 Demolition [24]
153: +3 Demolition [27]
154: +3 Demolition [30]
155: +3 Fist [24]
156: +3 Fist [27]
157: +3 Fist [30]
158: +3 Dragon Strike [24]
159: +3 Dragon Strike [27]
160: +3 Dragon Strike [30]
161: +3 Maple Warrior [3]
162: +3 Maple Warrior [6]
163: +3 Maple Warrior [9]
164: +3 Maple Warrior [12]
165: +3 Maple Warrior [15]
166: +3 Maple Warrior [18]
167: +2 Maple Warrior [20], +1 Time Leap [2]
168: +3 Time Leap [5]
169: +3 Time Leap [8]
170: +3 Time Leap [11]
171: +3 Time Leap [14]
172: +3 Time Leap [17]
173: +3 Time Leap [20]
174: +3 Time Leap [23]
175: +3 Time Leap [26]
176: +3 Time Leap [29]
177: +1 Time Leap [30], +1 Energy Orb [1], +1 Snatch [2]
178: +3 Snatch [5]
179: +3 Snatch [8]
180: +3 Snatch [11]
181: +3 Snatch [14]
182: +3 Snatch [17]
183: +3 Snatch [20]
184: +3 Snatch [23]
185: +2 Snatch [25], +1 Wind Booster [12]
186: +3 Wind Booster [15]
187: +3 Wind Booster [18]
188: +2 Wind Booster [20], +1 Snatch [26]
189: +3 Snatch [29]
190: +1 Snatch [30], +2 Energy Orb [3]
191: +3 Energy Orb [6]
192: +3 Energy Orb [9]
193: +3 Energy Orb [12]
194: +3 Energy Orb [15]
195: +3 Energy Orb [18]
196: +3 Energy Orb [21]
197: +3 Energy Orb [24]
198: +3 Energy Orb [27]
199: +3 Energy Orb [30]
200: +3 Double Fire [4]
Short Version
End of 1st Job:
20 Quick Motion
20 Straight
20 Somersault Kick
1 Double Fire

End of 2nd Job:
10 Improving Max HP Increase
20 Knucke Mastery
20 Knuckle Booster
20 Backspin Blow
20 Double Upper
20 Screw Punch
10 MP Recovery
1 Oak Barrel

End of 3rd Job:
20 Stun Mastery
40 Energy Charge
12 Energy Buster
20 Energy Drain
20 Transform
30 Shockwave
10 Oak Barrel

End of 4th Job:
Max everything. (Except Dash and Energy Buster)

I'll just quote you because this is the build I was leaning on.

[DumbApples]

Why do we need to max both straight and SK?:redface:

[0mgP1r4tes]

Why do we need to max both straight and SK?:redface:
They are one of your few spammable attacks as an Infighter. Believe me, when you feel the delays on the other skills, you will be happy you maxed both

Also, Somersault Kick is your only 6-mob hit attack til 3rd job, so you basically SP or BB mobs together then SK them to death

[Dervish]

Why not just max Dash over Quick Motion in the first job, and pull a Thief in second job and finish maxing Quick Motion at the end of second job rather than MP Recovery, which seems like a complete waste of points?

10% of your HP will probably end up being more than enough to restore your MP, sure, but with pot costs as cheap as they are with NLC, it seems rather pointless maxing it over Dash, especially because (unless they changed it) if you accidentely use Dash, you can simply turn around and disable it, while the extra speed could be incredibly useful in training, especially on flat maps such as STDs, or the bottom at Skelegons.

[lord farkuad]

Why not just max Dash over Quick Motion in the first job, and pull a Thief in second job and finish maxing Quick Motion at the end of second job rather than MP Recovery, which seems like a complete waste of points?

10% of your HP will probably end up being more than enough to restore your MP, sure, but with pot costs as cheap as they are with NLC, it seems rather pointless maxing it over Dash, especially because (unless they changed it) if you accidentely use Dash, you can simply turn around and disable it, while the extra speed could be incredibly useful in training, especially on flat maps such as STDs, or the bottom at Skelegons.

thank you for saying what i just said

[Dervish]

thank you for saying what i just said

You're welcome, slick.

[KaidaTan]

Why not just max Dash over Quick Motion in the first job, and pull a Thief in second job and finish maxing Quick Motion at the end of second job rather than MP Recovery, which seems like a complete waste of points?

10% of your HP will probably end up being more than enough to restore your MP, sure, but with pot costs as cheap as they are with NLC, it seems rather pointless maxing it over Dash, especially because (unless they changed it) if you accidentely use Dash, you can simply turn around and disable it, while the extra speed could be incredibly useful in training, especially on flat maps such as STDs, or the bottom at Skelegons.

Yeah, I considered that. But to be honest I don't like Dash as a skill, especially if I have to give up nice things like MP recovery. Sure MP recovery is far from necessary, but once you max it you'll pretty much never need an MP pot unless you're bossing. Isn't that kinda nice?

I just don't think the 30 speed will be too handy. I also don't like the thought of accidentally double-tapping right to get a little closer to HT's legs and running headlong into them. I'm sure I can find speed in other places. (This feels strange to say since I'm a huge Thrust advocater, but I guess I'm not a fan of speed that you can't control that well.)

[Acim]

Sub Class: Most likely gunslinger.
AP build: Low STR. Capping between 30 and 50.
Any notes: Nope, not really. I'll probably, since pirates are new, have around 60 STR then reset it.
SP Build: More on this later. I need to research, though the stickied build seems awesome.