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Zalfor
2009-08-18, 01:41 PM
From G4TV And other sites:


At Sony's GamesCom 2009 press conference, SCEI CEO Kaz Hirai unveiled the PlayStation 3 Slim. The new model will be available in stores starting the first week of September 2009. It is roughly 1/3 smaller and lighter than the current PS3 (and uses 1/3 less power! Gcycle!!!). The Slim will come with a 120GB hard drive. Most importantly, it will be the cheapest PS3 to date, with a price of $299 USD. The lower price will also apply to all 80GB models still available.

It's features known at this date are this:

-It's coming out Early September.
-It uses 34% less electricity.
-It is 33% smaller.
-It is 36% lighter.
-It has a 120 GB hard drive.
-It has Blu-Ray.
-Comes with a DualShock 3 and has HDMI input of up with 1080p support.
-It's $299! USD.

So, what will you do? Go and buy it? Keep/buy an older PS3? Or wait and see what problems this model has? I mean, comeon, Christmas is still 4 months away...

I'll more than likely be choosing the 3rd option. Waiting and seeing. Gotta be sure about backwards compatibility and all that.

Let the *holy crap it's nearly here!* chants start.

GameMX
2009-08-18, 02:03 PM
PS3 however still has

No Games

Blaine
2009-08-18, 02:32 PM
PS3 however still has

No Games

Bullshit.

This is good...I wonder how many heart attacks the Executives had when they saw they were dropping prices on the old ones. They're gonna lose even more money now, but their fan base will grow greatly and they'll make money from the games. Finally they're doing something right.

Christopher
2009-08-18, 02:38 PM
I'll actually consider buying one now

Blaine
2009-08-18, 02:42 PM
I'll actually consider buying one now

^ Lol at Nintendo avatar.

Greg22
2009-08-18, 02:47 PM
Who cares about how it's slim, or lighter, or whatever else. I don't know anyone who moves their PS3 from their TV's shelf. Even with the price drop, I won't even consider buying one until it's at $200 (Which won't take long).

http://i26.tinypic.com/2dqtwgk.jpg

xBTAx
2009-08-18, 02:49 PM
Considering getting it for Christmas... Though there's not many games I want that are for it, the ones I do are exclusive, and then there's a few that are only for 360/PS3 (or have only a crap version for Wii) that I'd pick up.

Also, LBP is getting a GOY edition, which is another little bonus...

Herbert Jablonski
2009-08-18, 03:16 PM
I might actually consider getting one now, but I'll probably just wait until after Christmas and/or another price drop. I'm not in any rush to get one, there's seriously only a few games that I want to play on it anyway.

kingdj333
2009-08-18, 04:24 PM
My sig is the only reason I'm going to get one. I can taste it.

Berzerk
2009-08-18, 05:18 PM
It's about time. I saw the like 7 articles on Kotaku about it when they were first posted. I've been waiting for this. Gives me a better reason to pick up a PS3 this Christmas.

Jormungandr
2009-08-18, 05:58 PM
Can you play ps2 games on it or no?

Lozmaster
2009-08-18, 06:04 PM
Can you play ps2 games on it or no?

Nope.

Mark
2009-08-18, 06:18 PM
Guys, PS3 is obviously the superior console. Prove me wrong.

PS3 has great movies such as:

-Talladega Nights
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Superbad
-Twilight

It's the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market. You'd have to be dumb to not want one.

Blaine
2009-08-18, 09:09 PM
Guys, PS3 is obviously the superior console. Prove me wrong.

PS3 has great movies such as:

-Talladega Nights
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Superbad
-Twilight

It's the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market. You'd have to be dumb to not want on

Not only that, it pwns the shit out of the 360 and Wii in graphics, online play, and lack of lag all-around.

Maybe now people will start developing more for it.

B>God of War 3....:f4::f4::f4:

Greg22
2009-08-18, 10:59 PM
Not only that, it pwns the pomegranate out of the 360 and Wii in graphics, online play, and lack of lag all-around.

Maybe now people will start developing more for it.

B>God of War 3....:f4::f4::f4:

If it was superior in all the ways you listed, why wouldn't developers want to make games for it?

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4254/1250210625638.jpg

Chompy
2009-08-18, 11:18 PM
I'll consider it.
:glitter:
*persona 4*

Christopher
2009-08-18, 11:31 PM
Nope.

oh what the fuck. never mind.

Lozmaster
2009-08-19, 01:58 AM
Not only that, it pwns the pomegranate out of the 360 and Wii in graphics, online play, and lack of lag all-around.

Maybe now people will start developing more for it.

B>God of War 3....:f4::f4::f4:

I sure hope you're here all week! Because that is side splittingly good.

Narguz
2009-08-19, 04:09 AM
Graphics are not everything... Maplestory > WoW for some.

GameMX
2009-08-19, 05:26 AM
Guys, PS3 is obviously the superior console. Prove me wrong.

PS3 has great movies such as:

-Talladega Nights
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-Superbad
-Twilight

It's the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market. You'd have to be dumb to not want one.


Not only that, it pwns the pomegranate out of the 360 and Wii in graphics, online play, and lack of lag all-around.

Maybe now people will start developing more for it.

B>God of War 3....:f4::f4::f4:

Movie Gear Solid 4

EDIT: For Greg

Click the image

http://www.zealguild.net/user/gamemx/ps3secretmini.jpg (http://www.zealguild.net/user/gamemx/ps3secret.jpg)

DarkGenzo
2009-08-19, 05:27 AM
oh what the pineapple. never mind.
They're supposidly working on a firmware update that'll emulate the eMOTION engine that is in the PS2.

I swear though, that's one huge thing that pineappleed Sony up - how can you NOT include backwards compatibility for PlayStation 2 games in MOST of your systems? I mean, even the ones that HAD the eMOTION engine sucked - I bought a 60gig when lolMGS4 came out, and was playing Fatal Frame 3... and there were so many FPS skips, and glitchy graphics. Half of the doors in the game were either transparent, or had something oddly wrong with them.

Either way - I have a PS3 and can say that there isn't a vast amount of games worth buying, that you couldn't just buy on 360 (which I perfer to do anyway). Though, Little Big Planet is pretty fun.

kingdj333
2009-08-19, 05:29 AM
Graphics are not everything... Maplestory > WoW for some.

You can't compare Maple to WoW... Maple is 2d Wow is 3d. :f7:

I know sony isn't done yet, they'll propably add more features to it? :f6:

B>Tekken 6 :f5:.

platipus
2009-08-19, 05:42 AM
lawl @ ps3 games diss

Roxas
2009-08-19, 07:43 AM
It's not a diss. It is the truth. If the PS3 really was the superior console Sony wouldn't have lost millions in profits because of it. Oh yeah, Xbox 360 and Wii both fail, despite having twice the sales the PS3 ever had. Also,

no gæmz

and FAIL @ Blaine for not detecting Opeth's sarcasm/trolling.

oh sony fanbois.

Greg22
2009-08-19, 08:12 AM
You can't compare Maple to WoW... Maple is 2d Wow is 3d.

Are you serious? DERP, CAN'T COMPARE SUPER MARIO 64 TO SUPER MARIO LAND 3. ONE IS 2D

Blaine
2009-08-19, 08:54 AM
If it was superior in all the ways you listed, why wouldn't developers want to make games for it?

Because it costed so fucking much, no one was buying, and no one wanted to develop for it.

Exclusives:
MAG (Massive Action Game, 256 players in one match...wut? Can't pull that of on the broke-box please fix me, you'd get rings for trying it..)
God of War 3
Final Fantasy 14
Motorstorm 1 and 2
LittleBigPlanet
Kingdom Hearts 3
The Agency
I would put Gran Turismo 5, but that's been in development for like six years now. GG Polyphony Digital.

Shared with the 360...and just as good, sometimes better than:
Rock Band 1 and 2 (Beatles soon)
Guitar Hero 3, World Tour, Metallica, Smash Hits, (soon to be Van Halen)
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Call of Duty: World at War
Madden Games
Baseball Games
Dirt
Grid(p?)

That's more than enough to keep you busy for a while. Rock Band and Guitar Hero have over seven thousand songs total for download. If you can't fucking entertain yourself with that, it has an internet explorer, some viral things going around for fun, you can look at what looks like a map of Earth at night, with the "lights" being PS3's that are on. You can couple it into being a computer as well.

Xbox = halohalohalo.

TøbiasBlack
2009-08-19, 09:04 AM
PS3 = overpriced bookend, doorstop, anvil, pyromaniac fodder...
360 = massive box of fun time happy loving.

Greg22
2009-08-19, 09:13 AM
MAG (Massive Action Game, 256 players in one match...wut? Can't pull that of on the broke-box please fix me, you'd get rings for trying it..)
God of War 3
Final Fantasy 14
Motorstorm 1 and 2
LittleBigPlanet
Kingdom Hearts 3
The Agency

Wow, how long did it take you to compile that giant list of half-decent PS3 games? More than half of these games aren't even released yet, but that's okay; if I had asked you to list some good PS3 exclusives that are already out, that just wouldn't be fair towards you Sony fanboys. Final Fantasy sucks now and MAG? More like LAG.

Berzerk
2009-08-19, 09:52 AM
Exclusives:
MAG (Massive Action Game, 256 players in one match...wut? Can't pull that of on the broke-box please fix me, you'd get rings for trying it..)
God of War 3
Final Fantasy 14
Motorstorm 1 and 2
LittleBigPlanet
Kingdom Hearts 3
The Agency
I would put Gran Turismo 5, but that's been in development for like six years now. GG Polyphony Digital.

There isn't a single game on that list that could make be buy a PS3 except God of War 3. Final Fantasy 14, last time I checked could also be hitting Xbox 360. We stole 13, we'll steal 14. Kingdom Hearts 3 is so far down the road, and there's no saying which console it'll come out for but I'll bet money that we'll get it over on the 360. MAG doesn't appeal to me. And I bet we could run it on the Xbox. We run several other games better than the PS3. A high budget one being Resident Evil 5.

For people saying the PS3 sucks, it doesn't. They both have their ups and downs. But currently, the Xbox 360 has more going for it. It's not just a game console. It's a home media center.

xBTAx
2009-08-19, 04:34 PM
There isn't a single game on that list that could make be buy a PS3 except God of War 3. Final Fantasy 14, last time I checked could also be hitting Xbox 360. We stole 13, we'll steal 14. Kingdom Hearts 3 is so far down the road, and there's no saying which console it'll come out for but I'll bet money that we'll get it over on the 360. MAG doesn't appeal to me. And I bet we could run it on the Xbox. We run several other games better than the PS3. A high budget one being Resident Evil 5.

For people saying the PS3 sucks, it doesn't. They both have their ups and downs. But currently, the Xbox 360 has more going for it. It's not just a game console. It's a home media center.

That's extremely unlikely.

Anyway, my list so far is... Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, LBP, Arkham Asylum, BlazBlue... maybe SF4, and some others I can't remember... >.>

Greg22
2009-08-19, 04:49 PM
That's extremely unlikely.
Why not? We're already getting the next Metal Gear Solid on the 360; they might as well just give us the rest of their three (3) exclusives.

Lozmaster
2009-08-19, 06:03 PM
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MAG (Massive Action Game, 256 players in one match...wut? Can't pull that of on the broke-box please fix me, you'd get rings for trying it..)


Of course you could, all that it does is only process the players that are within a certain distance from you, guess what, the ps3 wouldn't be able to handle 256 people all at once, and EVEN if it could, your modem/router would not. It's a fairly simple trick, you don't need to knowwhat someone on the opposite side of the map is equipped with, or where they are aiming, which can cut down significantly on the amount of data it needs to sned through each machine. I guarentee if you got all 256 people in a single small confined space in the game, it'd be murder on the frame rate.

the reason no-one else has tried this before is because 256 players is a completely redundant feature, Are you going to notice the difference in how many people you're playing against from 100 to 250? I seriously doubt it, esp if the space you have to play in is adjusted accordingly. fanboys are funny.

Berzerk
2009-08-19, 06:49 PM
That's extremely unlikely.

No it's not. We stole Grand Theft Auto 4, we stole Final Fantasy 13, and we stole the next Metal Gear Solid game. It's safe to say we're gonna be getting Kingdom Hearts 3 because it's not developed or published by Sony in any way.

Blaine
2009-08-19, 06:50 PM
Wow, how long did it take you to compile that giant list of half-decent PS3 games?

About...as long as it takes to type them. :f6:


There isn't a single game on that list that could make be buy a PS3 except God of War 3. Final Fantasy 14, last time I checked could also be hitting Xbox 360. We stole 13, we'll steal 14. Kingdom Hearts 3 is so far down the road, and there's no saying which console it'll come out for but I'll bet money that we'll get it over on the 360. MAG doesn't appeal to me. And I bet we could run it on the Xbox. We run several other games better than the PS3. A high budget one being Resident Evil 5.

For people saying the PS3 sucks, it doesn't. They both have their ups and downs. But currently, the Xbox 360 has more going for it. It's not just a game console. It's a home media center.

You're getting FF13, I kind of doubt you'll get 14, I highly doubt you'll get KH3, and sorry for any RE fanboys, but RE5 kind of sucked for me. It felt exactly like RE4...same control scheme, annoying "partners", cramped boss battles, etc.. :f6:

MAG sounds like fun...but I just don't think the cooperation needed to win would be even feasible on either console. You have 12 year old whiners on the 360 calling you "Stupid onions" (<-- True. >_> Happened on CoD4 to me.) or you have lethargic idiots on the PS3 that don't know which end of the gun to place in their hands.

And...@Greg, enjoy your 90 minute long cut-scenes. I hated them in MGS4.

loddlaen
2009-08-19, 06:58 PM
In terms of potential, PS3 > Xbox
The PS3 has the potential to produce better games with better graphics. However, developers don't want to go through the shitfight that is working out how to program the thing to its full extent. The other issue is games are being made for the lowest common demoninator (Xbox or Wii) then porting over without improving the graphics or other gameplay elements.

Graphics aren't the be all and end all though.
Online - Xbox has it all over the PS3. It sucks trying to play games online on the ps sometimes. Playing GH, I know there are others trying to find a game, but because we don't have the exact same game settings, we don't get to play. A half decent lobby would improve that no end. Same with a lot of other games.

Zaotsu
2009-08-20, 12:02 AM
Gotta be sure about backwards compatibility and all that.

Too bad on that one.


Given that Sony didn't make a note of it at its GamesCom press conference, most assumed the impending slimmer version of the PlayStation 3 would not have backwards compatibility with PlayStation 2 games. In the official press release announcing the new hardware, this suspicion has been confirmed: there is no compatibility.

"Note: This product is not compatible with PlayStation 2 games," reads the release.

Does this influence your thinking about the new model at all?

http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/698418/PlayStation-3-Slim-Not-Backwards-Compatible-With-PlayStation-2-Games.html

Berzerk
2009-08-20, 02:59 AM
About...as long as it takes to type them. :f6:



You're getting FF13, I kind of doubt you'll get 14, I highly doubt you'll get KH3, and sorry for any RE fanboys, but RE5 kind of sucked for me. It felt exactly like RE4...same control scheme, annoying "partners", cramped boss battles, etc.. :f6:

I still think we'll be getting Kingdom Hearts 3. There's no reason we shouldn't be. Also, regardless of what you thought about Resident Evil 5, which I agree sort of, the graphics were better on the Xbox 360. Which is unacceptable. Everyone states how the PS3 has more processors and can put out better graphics, well prove it. Another game the Xbox won over was Ghostbusters. It was beautiful on the Xbox, on the PS3 it's all choppy.

Also, while the Ps3 may have more "potential", I'd rather have the "now" console then invest $300 for a black brick to sit in my entertainment center. These price drops are good for both businesses. The Pro Xbox is getting Axed and the Elite is dropping down to $300. The Slim is going to be $300 to that makes the playing field more even. But I still bet you Sony loses more per console than Microsoft. A year from now I can still see the Wii being in 1st, the Xbox in 2nd and the PS3 not drastically far behind at 3rd.

Sn1perJohnE
2009-08-20, 04:33 AM
I came when i read the PS3 Slim news, seriously.

Now, about dual release games looking better on the 360 and not the PS3...They are freaking LAZY PROGRAMMERS!!!!! The Ghostbusters "snaffue" was obvioulsy due to the laziness of porting the game from the 360 version to the PS3 version, because it is still easier to start out on the 360 and bring it over to the PS3. All games that were made on the PS3 first and then ported to the 360 looked better on the ps3 than the 360, because it was MADE for the PS3, and vice versa when made on the 360 first.

Zalfor
2009-08-20, 08:48 AM
Well, first of all, I'd like to say, boo to no PS2 compatibility, but I don't really care, as I already have a PS2. It would just be a nice feature. But I would assume it'd eat into the profits on PS3 games.

Second, I'd like to point out two nice features of the PS3. Playstation Home and the Blu-Ray player. Playstation Home is a free online service for the PS3 compared to Microsoft's Xbox Live subscriber, and while there's very few available games to play on the Home network(1.3 patch is supposed to support ALL PS3 games), I hope it grows to something to rival that of Live. Live is an extremely useful online service and is probably used more often by gamers than the current state of PC games. But you gotta think here:The Xbox 360 is pretty much an extremely cheap computer. And a pretty darn good one at that.

The Blu-Ray player really shines for Sony as Microsoft had it's folly with the HD-DVD disaster. Most Blu-Ray players at this moment are in the price range of $150-$300 by themselves, which make the Sony a very attractive offering. But that only applies to people who don't rip all their movies off the internet/just buy regular DVD and play them on the Xbox 360 lol.

Really though, I don't see myself getting either. I don't have the TV to fully enjoy the "gawdly" graphics(which to me is actually a big point of discussion in the next gen systems) nor does Sony or Microsoft offer me anything more special than some good graphics, maybe a few hours of gameplay here and there, and a bunch of assholes on Xbox Live. I already have a DVD player, so that doesn't concern me at all. Now tell me when Project Natal gets here, and mayyybeee I'll buy a 360...

Blaine
2009-08-20, 09:17 AM
Now tell me when Project Natal gets here, and mayyybeee I'll buy a 360...

So you can wave your arms around like an idiot for 30 seconds trying to get it to move through the menus? Lzlz.

The reason things look better on the 360 is because they're made for the 360 first. >_> Then they port some pomegranatety version to the PS3, which isn't the console's fault.

Kawasari Mimoto
2009-08-20, 10:07 AM
I'd only get a PS3 for the remake of Tales of Vesperia, but that's NOT enough of a reason for me to want one. I like Sony products, but I'd prefer their PSP over their platform consoles ANY day, because they always make too many models, where as portables are always good, on the go or at home.

Berzerk
2009-08-20, 10:25 AM
I came when i read the PS3 Slim news, seriously.

Now, about dual release games looking better on the 360 and not the PS3...They are freaking LAZY PROGRAMMERS!!!!! The Ghostbusters "snaffue" was obvioulsy due to the laziness of porting the game from the 360 version to the PS3 version, because it is still easier to start out on the 360 and bring it over to the PS3. All games that were made on the PS3 first and then ported to the 360 looked better on the ps3 than the 360, because it was MADE for the PS3, and vice versa when made on the 360 first.

This wasn't the case. Ghostbusters wasn't ported. Terminal Reality developed both games simultaneously. Alos, TR boasted about how good all their "in-house" PS3 development was godly compared to others. If you ask me, they didn't do a very good job of showing that off.


Second, I'd like to point out two nice features of the PS3. Playstation Home and the Blu-Ray player. Playstation Home is a free online service for the PS3 compared to Microsoft's Xbox Live subscriber, and while there's very few available games to play on the Home network(1.3 patch is supposed to support ALL PS3 games), I hope it grows to something to rival that of Live. Live is an extremely useful online service and is probably used more often by gamers than the current state of PC games. But you gotta think here:The Xbox 360 is pretty much an extremely cheap computer. And a pretty darn good one at that.

The Blu-Ray player really shines for Sony as Microsoft had it's folly with the HD-DVD disaster. Most Blu-Ray players at this moment are in the price range of $150-$300 by themselves, which make the Sony a very attractive offering. But that only applies to people who don't rip all their movies off the internet/just buy regular DVD and play them on the Xbox 360 lol.


In my opinion, Playstation Home is a gimmicky version of Second Life that has absolutely no practical use outside of playing it for 15 minutes. Also, subscribing to Xbox Live for 13 Cents and day for a year is extremely cheap. The Xbox 360 will always offer a better online experience because when Sony is trying to catch up, Microsoft pumps something that much better out. Sony is just getting another Firmware revision (3.0) with a few new features in the coming weeks. This fall the Xbox is getting Facebook, Last.fm and Twitter. Again, pushing the boundaries between home entertainment from just a Game Console to a Home Media Hub in your living you.

I completely agree on the Blu-Ray thing though. Sony does have an enticing offer for their PS3, or Slim at $300 as a Game Console and a Blu-Ray player. But, this is also why Sony has lost so much this generation. Personally, I do not agree. This generation is not ready for Blu-Ray. As long as we still can make amazing games without it, for example on the Xbox's end, then it's just a waste of technology right now. Again, look at Resident Evil 5 for the Xbox and PS3. Xbox has the better graphics which isn't an excuse because the PS3 has Blu-ray. What's the point of having technology if they're not going to use it.

Blaine
2009-08-20, 01:29 PM
I agree PSHome was/is a failure.

They don't fully know HOW to use the PS3's potential yet, or I'd expect we'd have amazing games out...maybe God of War 3 is the first of those?

Sn1perJohnE
2009-08-20, 07:04 PM
Had terminal reality even worked on another PS3 game before Ghostbusters? Cause normally, first gen developments (first time making a game for a console) dont have the same polish as a 360 version. I know there are plenty of work arounds that they could have sought after to make the graphics equal to the 360 version.

Home...well, its meh, I tried it, its OK, theres potential, but they dont seem to really want to follow threw it much. If they were able to have a portable version out on the PSP, I could see it being used more, as well as making it more of what they were first showing it as. Right now, it can seem kinda cramped.

GlowingOne
2009-08-20, 07:37 PM
I don't get the excuse that PS3 doesn't have a game library.

xbox 360 sucks for several reasons

It's like a 2x exp coupon, you need to buy one every 90 days.

Project natal sucks, i dont want to be hopping around like a jackass in my room

OOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh halo 3, gears of war and fable 2. Those games are overhyped as f-u-c-k

Disc-tray. ROFL


No blu-ray.

Ps3 rules for several reasons

Great exclusives which came out/coming out soon
Infamous, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Gran turisimo 5, God of war 3, Killzone 2, Metal gear solid 4 and more


Games that aren't exclusive Look great on both consoles, but games that are exclusive on the ps3 look about 3 times better on the PS3. That's because the ps3 versions of the non-exclusive games need to be cut down to fit both consoles.

Blu-ray player.


Playstation 3 plays on True FullHD 1080p, While the xbox 360 is limited to720p



The price is now 300$, While the arcade version of the xbox is 200$, Personally, I would pay a 100$ more for a superior more advanced console than a 90 day console that doesn't even have a hard drive (LOL)



Now, after stating all these facts, I can say that I dont own either consoles, So im not even biased. these are all pineappleing facts, if you bough an xbox and regret it, don't say the ps3 doesnt have a wide game library, because its pineappleing gigantic. lol

Zalfor
2009-08-20, 09:38 PM
If we're going to talk about game libraries/life of a system, please don't be so cynical about it, or else you'll start a flame war. We want to keep this civilized.

Now, the facts you tried to represent are:

A)The Red Ring Of death issue the Xbox 360 is plagued with. The PS3 is also afflicted with similar problems, but they are less common. Maybe you should think to yourself:I'm buying something that will probably burn down my house with the electricity it uses, hell, I can cook an egg on this thing. There will always be problems with any system you buy, it's just how it is.

B)That's your opinion. People buy the Wii just to jump around like jackasses. And Nintendo is far richer than you.

C)Yes. Overhyped. But nice graphics. And they're fairly well supported.

D)ROFLMAOIDON'TCARE.

E)The Blu-Ray is just a dvd with a security system and some nice upscaling features. Big whoop. If HD-DVD had won the battle, then everyone would be buying Xbox 360's wouldn't they.

F)Those games are great, but they all have a folly:Only two of them aren't a sequel. Xbox 360 gave birth to more new games than the PS3 has.

G)No comment.

H)Buy an Elite for god's sake. Only idiots buy the Arcade.

And as for "Gigantic library", according to Wiki:There are currently 557 (exclusive: 159; non exclusive: 395; console exclusive: 9) compared to Xbox 360's:There are currently 709 (exclusive: 116; multiplatform: 516; console exclusive: 77). Notice the "console exclusive" category. of the 159 exclusive's the PS3 has, only 9 of them are actually on the PS3 compared to Xbox's 77/116.

Research always win.

Greg22
2009-08-20, 09:46 PM
I don't get the excuse that PS3 doesn't have a game library.

xbox 360 sucks for several reasons

It's like a 2x exp coupon, you need to buy one every 90 days.

Project natal sucks, i dont want to be hopping around like a jackass in my room

OOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh halo 3, gears of war and fable 2. Those games are overhyped as f-u-c-k

Disc-tray. ROFL


No blu-ray.

Ps3 rules for several reasons

Great exclusives which came out/coming out soon
Infamous, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Gran turisimo 5, God of war 3, Killzone 2, Metal gear solid 4 and more


Games that aren't exclusive Look great on both consoles, but games that are exclusive on the ps3 look about 3 times better on the PS3. That's because the ps3 versions of the non-exclusive games need to be cut down to fit both consoles.

Blu-ray player.


Playstation 3 plays on True FullHD 1080p, While the xbox 360 is limited to720p



The price is now 300$, While the arcade version of the xbox is 200$, Personally, I would pay a 100$ more for a superior more advanced console than a 90 day console that doesn't even have a hard drive (LOL)


BUTTHURT SONYPHONY INCOMING. In comparison to the Xbox and Wii, the PS3 has a small library of exclusive games. In comparison to the Xbox, the PS3 has a very small online community. In comparison to the Wii, the PS3 caters to a more "exclusive" gamers rather than family or friends. The Wii and 360 have revolutionized console gaming; online gaming and motion-sensor controls are better than anything your brick of a console can provide for it's very, very small fanboy-only audience. The PS3 Slim will NOT save Sony. It's impossible. It will only gain temporary momentum for the console, and sales will slide back down to nothing as they are now. Remember the last time a console was in this position? It was the Gamecube. Hell they lowered the price to $99. What did it do? It improved sales by 300%.. .for a few weeks. That's it.

The Nintendo Wii and motion controls have won this generation, and will continue to win until the end of this generation. Sony will need a totally new console to beat Nintendo.

loddlaen
2009-08-20, 10:02 PM
What will be interesting to see is what happens when xbox is at it limits. It was only really designed with a 5 year life span (as I recall reading somewhere) and the ps3 was designed with a 10 year span. Xbox is nearly at the limit of the potential game developers can push it, whereas the ps3 has barely scratched the surface. So its what xbox do next that will make things interesting.
If Sony made their online interactions better (cmon, a freaking lobby in GH would make it more appealing to play online), more people would consider the ps3.

Blaine
2009-08-20, 10:34 PM
G)No comment.

Had to lol. No offence.


The PS3 Slim will NOT save Sony. It's impossible. It will only gain temporary momentum for the console, and sales will slide back down to nothing as they are now. Remember the last time a console was in this position? It was the Gamecube. Hell they lowered the price to $99. What did it do? It improved sales by 300%.. .for a few weeks. That's it.

The Nintendo Wii and motion controls have won this generation, and will continue to win until the end of this generation. Sony will need a totally new console to beat Nintendo.

None of Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo need "saving", since Nintendo's the only video game-only company, Sony and Microsoft can support themselves other ways. There's a huge difference from the GC to the PS3. The PS3 doesn't suck ass like the GameCube did. Even Nintendo fans will agree it sucked.

Sony doesn't need a new console to crush them, they need people to fully capitalize on the PS3's capabilities.


If Sony made their online interactions better (cmon, a freaking lobby in GH would make it more appealing to play online), more people would consider the ps3.

Funnily enough, the online GH menus look the same on 360 and PS3...and I fail connecting to as many matches on the 360 as I do on the PS3.

Greg22
2009-08-20, 10:42 PM
Sony doesn't need a new console to crush them, they need people to fully capitalize on the PS3's capabilities.[/I][/B]

Too late. It shouldn't take four years for a console to reach it's potential. The GC can most definitely be compared to the PS3; like you said, the GC was a pile of shi't that sold horribly, kind of like some other game console today.

http://i29.tinypic.com/30j2q7c.jpg

xBTAx
2009-08-20, 10:52 PM
A lot of you guys are going OHLOLNOEXCLUSIVES.

Most of you saying that have a 360, right?

That's the thing. I don't. About half of the games I want for the PS3 are exclusive, but the other half are multi-platform. So I don't really care if they're not exclusive, as long as the ones I want are on the PS3.

And the number of total games doesn't matter. The number of games I'd actually buy/play does. And that number is actually higher for the PS3.

loddlaen
2009-08-20, 11:12 PM
Funnily enough, the online GH menus look the same on 360 and PS3...and I fail connecting to as many matches on the 360 as I do on the PS3.

Someone told me its different on the xbox.

Sn1perJohnE
2009-08-20, 11:18 PM
Too late. It shouldn't take four years for a console to reach it's potential. The GC can most definitely be compared to the PS3; like you said, the GC was a pile of shi't that sold horribly, kind of like some other game console today.

http://i29.tinypic.com/30j2q7c.jpg

that poll doesnt exactly fall in favor of "no on slim", or no on PS3.

30.47% straight out dont have a PS3.

Another 32.09% already own a PS3, and will not upgrade (or switch) to the Slim.

Now, there has already been a patent filed for CELL based emulation of the Emotion chip (new patent, not the failed attempt), so that 19.99% is most likely gonna buy.

3.24% will go just for the Blu-Ray (most consoles make money off of software).

13.02% will probably buy.

And 1.3% already has one reserved to buy.

So thats 37.55% that will either buy, or most likely buy, taking the majority of that poll.

Greg22
2009-08-20, 11:21 PM
So thats 37.55% that will either buy, or most likely buy, taking the majority of that poll.

Where'd you get that number again? Also, that poll is supposed to put emphasis on how the PS3 Slim doesn't seem like it'll be selling well; not how many people own a PS3 to begin with.

loddlaen
2009-08-20, 11:24 PM
Add the first 4 percentages. Thats assuming the emotion chip gets installed though.

Chocobo
2009-08-21, 12:05 AM
Kingdom Hearts 3

Ss or it didnt happen. I thought the xbox would most likely have it since it looks like they got the majority of the gamers this time around.:ohno:

Sn1perJohnE
2009-08-21, 05:22 AM
Where'd you get that number again? Also, that poll is supposed to put emphasis on how the PS3 Slim doesn't seem like it'll be selling well; not how many people own a PS3 to begin with.


Add the first 4 percentages. Thats assuming the emotion chip gets installed though.

Yes, the first 4, and i mean majority outta Buying/Might Buy, Already Own Phat, and Already Own Other.

One problem with these kinda polls is it cant fully show the true consumer thinking on it, just those who did the poll.

As for its emphasis, its kinda mixed. As we have no way of know if the top four selections voters have a PS3 Phat already, or if they have another console. When split into the three parts mentioned above, it seems it would sell decently.

With game consoles, its never the software alone or the system alone that makes it, its a driving combination of the two. The Wii has a strong console platform, but the games for it that are great (4/5+) are really far and few, leaving most people who but it just playing the Wii Sports that comes with it.

The 360 has an excellent mix of console and software, while still having a decent price for it as well. But the PS3 was always hampered by its high price, even when it was at its last cheapest of 400 bucks, you were lacking on getting people to buy it. On the software side, I believe i read somewhere the the majority of the games released for it scored 3/5 or better, which isnt bad, while the Wii had something like the majority of games scoring between 2/5 and 3/5, with a small chunk of 4/5 and a small handful of 5/5 games. I cant remember for the 360 if they listed anything for it tho.



Ss or it didnt happen. I thought the xbox would most likely have it since it looks like they got the majority of the gamers this time around.:ohno:

This is iffy, but, it will most likely be on the PS3. Reason being it was on the PS2 for most of the games so far, and the only other console it went to with any part of it was the DS, and it still ended up being ported to the PS2. The story behind the KH games was from people at Beuna Vista being in the same building as Square Enix, and both getting together to collaborate on the game. Square has always been a big Sony supported, so it wouldnt make much sense for em to jump ship now. At any rate, if they were to go multi platform with it, it would be on the PS3 first, and get ported over like MGS4 is (or was it another game a-@ 3:30 in the morning...)

MechMike
2009-08-21, 06:04 AM
May I add that future multi-platform games are turning away from the PS3 as it costs more money to develop for such little income.

PS3 has even less games!

Roxas
2009-08-21, 06:27 AM
Wait wait stop the van. Sony doesn't need saving? Have you SEEN their losses this last year, and especially this quarter? If the PS3 was such a success they wouldn't have reported their first losses in 14 years. And lol, half of those Exclusives list aren't out yet, or not even confirmed for the console. Claiming KH3 to be for the PS3 is very selfish of you.

Yay Blu-Ray, because you want NEED to see every single pixel.

Ofcourse, http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUST30643620090730

Nintendo has started to feel the crisis too, but for them that's just a jab in the side. Sony probably had an amputated arm.


B)That's your opinion. People buy the Wii just to jump around like jackasses. And Nintendo is far richer than you.

Yes. Quoted for truth. People spout bullshit like this and yet, Nintendo is rich. Why? Because, apparently, people do like to jump around like jackasses.

GameMX
2009-08-21, 12:19 PM
Nintendo has started to feel the crisis too, but for them that's just a jab in the side. Sony probably had an amputated arm.

It seems like that most likely.


http://www.vgchartz.com/

Hmm, PlayStationNoGaems has 21.7% of the market.

Also, I found this very interesting:

http://www.vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

Berzerk
2009-08-21, 01:29 PM
I don't get the excuse that PS3 doesn't have a game library.

xbox 360 sucks for several reasons

It's like a 2x exp coupon, you need to buy one every 90 days.



Project natal sucks, i dont want to be hopping around like a jackass in my room



OOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhh halo 3, gears of war and fable 2. Those games are overhyped as f-u-c-k



Disc-tray. ROFL



No blu-ray.

Ps3 rules for several reasons

Great exclusives which came out/coming out soon

Infamous, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Gran turisimo 5, God of war 3, Killzone 2, Metal gear solid 4 and more


Games that aren't exclusive Look great on both consoles, but games that are exclusive on the ps3 look about 3 times better on the PS3. That's because the ps3 versions of the non-exclusive games need to be cut down to fit both consoles.

Blu-ray player.


Playstation 3 plays on True FullHD 1080p, While the xbox 360 is limited to720p



The price is now 300$, While the arcade version of the xbox is 200$, Personally, I would pay a 100$ more for a superior more advanced console than a 90 day console that doesn't even have a hard drive (LOL)



Now, after stating all these facts, I can say that I dont own either consoles, So im not even biased. these are all pineappleing facts, if you bough an xbox and regret it, don't say the ps3 doesnt have a wide game library, because its pineappleing gigantic. lol

You sir, are very iggnorant and don't know what you're talking about. How the FUCK is an Xbox like a x2 coupon? Every 90 days for what? It's $50 a year for Xbox Live which equates to fucking 14 cents a day. If you're too cheap to pay that, then don't own a console, buddy. Project Natal is NOT going to suck. It's going to revolutionize the gaming industry if done right. Sure, some games will be complete control with it, other will use it to add another level of depth to games.

Halo 3, Gears of War and Fable 2? Overhyped. Yeah, sure. Like the PS3 titles aren't overhyped. PS3 exclusives aren't any better than Xbox exclusives.

Disc-tray? What the hell is wrong with a Disc-tray? And Blu-ray on the PS3 is the main reason Sony loses so much on each console sold. Who cares if the Xbox doesn't have Blu-ray. This generation doesn't need it. And assuming you're talking about movies when it comes to the Blu-ray player, who the fuck needs Blu-ray when the Xbox is getting 1080p streaming movies with NO WAIT time with the Zune Marketplace this Fall.

You talk about how there's only 1 freaking Xbox. The arcade is the low end. The Elite is $400 right now but is dropping to $300 at the end of August. So that means both the Xbox and PS3 are at the same price.

That post was completely biased. And more than half of those "facts" are completely not sure/half ass.

GlowingOne
2009-08-21, 01:37 PM
You sir, are very iggnorant and don't know what you're talking about. How the FUCK is an Xbox like a x2 coupon? Every 90 days for what? It's $50 a year for Xbox Live which equates to fucking 14 cents a day. If you're too cheap to pay that, then don't own a console, buddy. Project Natal is NOT going to suck. It's going to revolutionize the gaming industry if done right. Sure, some games will be complete control with it, other will use it to add another level of depth to games.

Halo 3, Gears of War and Fable 2? Overhyped. Yeah, sure. Like the PS3 titles aren't overhyped. PS3 exclusives aren't any better than Xbox exclusives.

Disc-tray? What the hell is wrong with a Disc-tray? And Blu-ray on the PS3 is the main reason Sony loses so much on each console sold. Who cares if the Xbox doesn't have Blu-ray. This generation doesn't need it. And assuming you're talking about movies when it comes to the Blu-ray player, who the pineapple needs Blu-ray when the Xbox is getting 1080p streaming movies with NO WAIT time with the Zune Marketplace this Fall.

You talk about how there's only 1 freaking Xbox. The arcade is the low end. The Elite is $400 right now but is dropping to $300 at the end of August. So that means both the Xbox and PS3 are at the same price.

That post was completely biased. And more than half of those "facts" are completely not sure/half ass.

It's not biased because I don't even have either of the consoles, whats biased is your post.

You're stating that sony loses for each console because of the blu-ray.
how does that effect me?! I still get the cheapest blu-ray player in the market combined with a gaming machine with a cell processor LOL.

I'm just looking from a consumers view, Im planning on buying a PS3.
I meant you need to buy a new xbox 360 every 90 days because each one of my friends xbox's got the RROD, it might take some time, but it got to them. I also have a few friends that got RROD'D with the jasper version so dont give me excuses.

Xbox 360's exclusives might taste better to some people, But the ps3 exclusives like god of war 3, infamous and uncharted 2 just lure me more towards the ps3, that's all.

My point it, for the same price of an xbox 360 elite, you can get a playstation 3 with a blu-ray player and to be honest I like the multi-platform games the most. So im winning a blu-ray player, the exclusives I like and the multi-platform games I like as opposed to a dvd player, The exclusives that i don't like and same multi-platform games.

That's my 2 cents

LaughingThesaurus
2009-08-21, 01:51 PM
My two cents: Who needs all that hardware?

Make a console that's reliable, not one that makes games and movies look 2% shinier. I mean, pineapple, how hard is that?


Edit: And yes, this is a blanket statement concerning this entire generation. All the consoles have very glaring flaws, and I'd much rather like it if people didn't focus on pumping as many fucking steroids as they can into their graphics and innovation and make something that's fun.

Berzerk
2009-08-21, 01:57 PM
You're stating that sony loses for each console because of the blu-ray.
how does that effect me?! I still get the cheapest blu-ray player in the market combined with a gaming machine with a cell processor LOL.


That's exactly what I'm stating because it's true. That's no intended to bash them in any way what so ever. I'm saying this now, I have nothing against the PS3. I'm ever going to buy a Slim shortly after it comes out. But that one-sided post of yours bashing the Xbox was completely stupid. I'm glad you're gonna get a cheap Blu-ray player at Sony's loss. Have at it.


I'm just looking from a consumers view, Im planning on buying a PS3.
I meant you need to buy a new xbox 360 every 90 days because each one of my friends xbox's got the RROD, it might take some time, but it got to them. I also have a few friends that got RROD'D with the jasper version so dont give me excuses.

Yes, our failure rates our higher than the PS3's but there's always something wrong with everything. The PS3's failure rate is 1/5th the rate (http://www.southperry.net/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=266515) of the Xbox's, but that doesn't make it any better. You send in your Xbox, get another one in a week or two. Hell, if you even call them up and peach at them, you'll get a few free games, like I did.


Xbox 360's exclusives might taste better to some people, But the ps3 exclusives like god of war 3, infamous and uncharted 2 just lure me more towards the ps3, that's all.

Nothing wrong with that. But in your post you made it seem like the PS3 exclusives are better, just because they are. Each console gets their great list of exclusives. But when it comes down to it, we actually stole some of those away (GTA4, FF13).

My post wasn't meant to be biased, which it may have sounded that way because I was defending the Xbox. My point is, there's nothing wrong with either console. Everyone has their own taste. But, if you do look at the facts, the Xbox has much more to offer right now, as well as in the coming months.

Sn1perJohnE
2009-08-21, 02:00 PM
Make a console that's reliable, not one that makes games and movies look 2% shinier. I mean, pineapple, how hard is that?


:f6: (yes, saw yer edit)

Really, seeing a PS3 (probably could go for a 360 also) playing on an old as hell tube TV, still having decent graphics, and then moving to a 32 inch 720p tv, its well worth the extra "2%" as you put it.

Also, ive stated in the first project natal thread (e3 thread) that its the same concept that was being produced for the PS3 Eye, just hope they really come through.

Blaine
2009-08-21, 03:06 PM
Someone told me its different on the xbox.

Nope. :f6: Appearance is exactly the same on the PS3 as the 360. The store looks different, maybe that's what they meant?


A lot of you guys are going OHLOLNOEXCLUSIVES.

Most of you saying that have a 360, right?

That's the thing. I don't. About half of the games I want for the PS3 are exclusive, but the other half are multi-platform. So I don't really care if they're not exclusive, as long as the ones I want are on the PS3.

And the number of total games doesn't matter. The number of games I'd actually buy/play does. And that number is actually higher for the PS3.

All of these OMGEXCLUSIVES people forget that quality > quantity.


Ss or it didnt happen. I thought the xbox would most likely have it since it looks like they got the majority of the gamers this time around.:ohno:

KH has been on the PS2 since it started with a side-trip on the DS.


May I add that future multi-platform games are turning away from the PS3 as it costs more money to develop for such little income.

PS3 has even less games!

PS3 will have a hell of a lot more to work with after their fan base swells. The difference between $300 and $400 is enormous, especially for the majority of gamers.


Claiming KH3 to be for the PS3 is very selfish of you.

Not exactly, I don't even play KH, but it's a PS game. I'm always playing Guitar Hero and/or Rock Band, because I find the controllers to lag less on the PS3. It seems to me, in my experience, that 360 guitars are a little more fragile, and Wii guitars just lag like shit.

Berzerk
2009-08-21, 03:24 PM
Square has already proven to us that they're not a one-console type of person. Otherwise Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories would have been on one of the Sony platforms. With the PSP getting Birth by Sleep and Nintendo's DS getting 358/2 Days, it shows us again that Square isn't sticking to just Sony stuff.

The main reason I don't think we've seen some of these established franchises on the original Xbox is the fact that it was a new console, flying out competing with the Gamecube and PS2. Why would company's take that gamble of spending millions in developing and publishing a game on a console, that could overall fail? The thing is, the Xbox is well established and is on it's feet, pretty darn high. I have no doubts, we'll be seeing Kingdom Hearts 3 on the 360. That's if we even get it this generation.

LaughingThesaurus
2009-08-21, 03:37 PM
:f6: (yes, saw yer edit)

Really, seeing a PS3 (probably could go for a 360 also) playing on an old as hell tube TV, still having decent graphics, and then moving to a 32 inch 720p tv, its well worth the extra "2%" as you put it.

Also, ive stated in the first project natal thread (e3 thread) that its the same concept that was being produced for the PS3 Eye, just hope they really come through.

I don't see why anybody has to have completely realistic graphics in a video game though. I mean, pomegranate, don't we play those to get away from real life? Or to have fun? If you want to see a beautiful fully rendered landscape, there's one right outside your window. If you want to jump inside somebody's brain, or spontaneously create a cartoony helicopter for fun, you've got video games. Realism should have no part of it.

But okay, fine, cell processor. Holy pomegranate, that's got to be the best video game maker ever. Minor improvement with blu-ray technology. Hot damn, we sure don't need any gameplay.

Edit: I'm out of this argument. This whole generation is full of graphics whores and poorly done innovators, and I've said my piece. I ONLY want a next gen system because my favorite game series continues on it. And because it has fantastic gameplay. The Wii doesn't play too well in my experience, the other consoles have, like, 2 original games I'm interested in. I've never had any sort of fun with this generation. I'm sticking to the ACTUAL good fun stuff I enjoy.

Edit 2: Also, Rock Band DLC.

Blaine
2009-08-21, 03:40 PM
Square has already proven to us that they're not a one-console type of person. Otherwise Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories would have been on one of the Sony platforms. With the PSP getting Birth by Sleep and Nintendo's DS getting 358/2 Days, it shows us again that Square isn't sticking to just Sony stuff.

The main reason I don't think we've seen some of these established franchises on the original Xbox is the fact that it was a new console, flying out competing with the Gamecube and PS2. Why would company's take that gamble of spending millions in developing and publishing a game on a console, that could overall fail? The thing is, the Xbox is well established and is on it's feet, pretty darn high. I have no doubts, we'll be seeing Kingdom Hearts 3 on the 360. That's if we even get it this generation.

Following that logic it's safe to say we'll see Gran Turismo 5 on the Xbox 930986098209348 sometime millions of years for now. >_> Whatever, I like Forza better anyway.

Greg22
2009-08-21, 07:05 PM
Following that logic it's safe to say we'll see Gran Turismo 5 on the Xbox 930986098209348 sometime millions of years for now. >_> Whatever, I like Forza better anyway.

>Implying the Xbox cannot handle a high-end racing game. While the PS3 is ONLY known for it's graphics (And not fun games and online play), they're really not that high above the Xbox's. :<

chrome
2009-08-21, 07:17 PM
I meant you need to buy a new xbox 360 every 90 days because each one of my friends xbox's got the RROD
I've had my 360 for 3 years, and I haven't had a RROD. :f2:

Corn
2009-08-21, 07:24 PM
It's not biased because I don't even have either of the consoles, whats biased is your post.

You're stating that sony loses for each console because of the blu-ray.
how does that effect me?! I still get the cheapest blu-ray player in the market combined with a gaming machine with a cell processor LOL.

I'm just looking from a consumers view, Im planning on buying a PS3.
I meant you need to buy a new xbox 360 every 90 days because each one of my friends xbox's got the RROD, it might take some time, but it got to them. I also have a few friends that got RROD'D with the jasper version so dont give me excuses.

Xbox 360's exclusives might taste better to some people, But the ps3 exclusives like god of war 3, infamous and uncharted 2 just lure me more towards the ps3, that's all.

My point it, for the same price of an xbox 360 elite, you can get a playstation 3 with a blu-ray player and to be honest I like the multi-platform games the most. So im winning a blu-ray player, the exclusives I like and the multi-platform games I like as opposed to a dvd player, The exclusives that i don't like and same multi-platform games.

That's my 2 cents

I noticed you didn't argue with everyone else. That kinda meant you lost the argument.

Zalfor
2009-08-21, 08:36 PM
Oh boy, Microsoft is heating things up, kindof. Sorry to interrupt here, but I think I'll interject this picture into the discussion:

http://cache.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/173732_S/Wal-Mart-Selling-Xbox-Elite-For-299-Starting-August-30.jpg

Now, there's not much to the Elite vs. the Pro version, but if Microsoft went out of their way to hellishly lower the Pro price, to somewhere around $199, then I could see people pretty much giving up the idea of buying a PS3. There is discussion as to this is just getting rid of old stock due to Microsoft adding the "final chipset" to their 360.

And yes, I agree with the "graphic whore" etc. idea, I mean, some people sit all day and just bitch about the Blu-Ray the PS3 has or how many RROD's happen. Microsoft isn't that bad of company. They'll repair your system. Replace it even I think. I think they give you a fairly good deal for $300-400 where only those who wish to bitch constantly about such little things that are missing instead of looking at the bigger picture. It's kindof like how we treat Nexon really.

Nexon gives us a free game to play. They create a gigantic interface and world for us to play in with lots of features. And all people do all day is rip on other people, smega how awesome they are/how much they hate Nexon or troll forums and bitching to whoever lets them talk. They don't need to give you a free game, they can ban you no matter what you do, because if you put confidence into a company in this day and age, well, you're going to be f***ed one way or another. So just enjoy your Xbox 360, or your Ps3, or your Maplestoriez. It's just a game :P

Berzerk
2009-08-22, 12:14 AM
Oh boy, Microsoft is heating things up, kindof. Sorry to interrupt here, but I think I'll interject this picture into the discussion:

http://cache.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/173732_S/Wal-Mart-Selling-Xbox-Elite-For-299-Starting-August-30.jpg

Now, there's not much to the Elite vs. the Pro version, but if Microsoft went out of their way to hellishly lower the Pro price, to somewhere around $199, then I could see people pretty much giving up the idea of buying a PS3. There is discussion as to this is just getting rid of old stock due to Microsoft adding the "final chipset" to their 360.

Microsoft isn't that bad of company. They'll repair your system. Replace it even I think.

Actually, the pro is getting axed. The Arcade bundle will remain at the $199 mark and the Elite with drop down to $299, like in the picture. Why they'd axe the Pro, I don't know (lol). It seems kind of important to include a hard drive with this generation. A good chuck of today's games have been DLC driven, expanding the life-time of games longer than the original content provided. Look at Fallout 3. The final expansion was just released last month, almost reaching a full year life cycle.

And, about 6 months when I got my RROD of my first Xbox, Microsoft sent me a brand new one. It was also a newer model, because my last didn't have an HDMI port but the new one did. To clarify, I had my first Xbox which I got the RROD then I upgraded to the Elite about a year later.

Blaine
2009-08-22, 08:51 AM
>Implying the Xbox cannot handle a high-end racing game. While the PS3 is ONLY known for it's graphics (And not fun games and online play), they're really not that high above the Xbox's. :<

Nonono...you missed my point completely. GT5 has been in development for like...5 years I think now, and they don't seem to be any closer to finishing when they started. As I said, I like Forza better, it even looks better to me because of the vinyls and stuff. (My friend put Megan Fox on a Ferrari.) :shine:

RedMondays
2009-09-03, 07:31 AM
PC > Everything else

And yes PS3 is laughable, going to get games? going to get firmware updates? they were going to do that when they released it freaking ages ago. just fan boys that protect it now.

y0y0y0y0shi0
2009-09-03, 10:32 AM
'Nuff said.
http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/2/1/lg/099.jpg

-Cough- Ratchet and Clank games and Little Big Planet -Cough-

Takebacker
2009-09-03, 10:49 AM
And Blu-ray on the PS3 is the main reason Sony loses so much on each console sold.

It's also one of the only reasons the PS3 sells as much as it does in the first place. Lose/lose situation, sony.


I meant you need to buy a new xbox 360 every 90 days because each one of my friends xbox's got the RROD, it might take some time, but it got to them. I also have a few friends that got RROD'D with the jasper version so dont give me excuses.

First of all, no one i know has ever gotten an RROD. Second of all, unless you're retarded you won't get one. I heard about some dude who had to physically slam his xbox against a table until he got an RROD.


That's my 2 cents

I hate it when people say this when they clearly have been putting in way more than 2 cents into the argument.

KhainiWest
2009-09-03, 11:29 AM
I'm just going to get both. I got the wii for brawl which i was slightly dissapointed. However mario galaxy is fun, I don't regret getting the wii.

y0y0y0y0shi0
2009-09-03, 11:50 AM
I'm just going to get both. I got the wii for brawl which i was slightly dissapointed. However mario galaxy is fun, I don't regret getting the wii.

Did you just say that?
You thought Brawl sucked, and Galaxy was /fun/?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS WORLD?!?!?!?
:f4:

Corn
2009-09-03, 12:11 PM
I'm just going to get both. I got the wii for brawl which i was slightly dissapointed. However mario galaxy is fun, I don't regret getting the wii.

http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb//GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Mario%20Galaxy/Everything%20Else/ART/Finished/mario_urmr--screenshot_large.jpg

Back on topic...

I prefer the Xbox over the PS3, solely because of Left4Dead. The only games I like on the PS3 are playable on other consoles (COD5 on the Wii is fun, heh heh).

KhainiWest
2009-09-03, 12:11 PM
Did you just say that?
You thought Brawl sucked, and Galaxy was /fun/?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS WORLD?!?!?!?
:f4:

Brawl didn't suck, I just felt like melee's fast pace game was much more fun. Brawl is much more user friendly with a lot more flash. It takes some time to get used to but by no means was it horrible.

Seriously though mario galaxy, 100% recommend, it definately is a must have for any wii user.

Edit: the top is ps3 slim, not ps3 vs xbox o.O Thought I'd throw in a wii user in the bunch.

psychopat
2009-09-03, 12:25 PM
First of all, no one i know has ever gotten an RROD. Second of all, unless you're retarded you won't get one. I heard about some dude who had to physically slam his xbox against a table until he got an RROD.

That was quite an ignorant thing to say. Myself and literally all of my friends, most of us engineers, have had to send their 360 back in at least once. No, we weren't stupid with cooling or ESD. The hardware layout & cooling was poorly designed and you can clearly see that if you you open up your xbox.

I didn't do massive 3+ hour game sessions, I kept a fan on it, etc. I've still gotten E74 twice. Luckily, MS extended the warranty on RRoD to E74 as well since it's the same root cause (crappy design leading to the GPU overheating, in this case). Because of this, it didn't cost a penny to get it fixed either time and it re-extends the warranty each time :)

That said, the only 2 PS3 owners I know also sent those in when the disc drive stopped spinning. Both of the boxes are shoddy, as compared to the old systems. It's kind of sad that I can still run my SNES without any issues whatsoever, yet both Sony & MS have trouble making a box that can't withstand light-to-moderate use over a span of 2 years. Not a fully valid comparison due to the lack of moving parts, but still...

Not commenting on Wii since I only know 1 person that has one and they barely use it anymore. Not a good sample size for getting reliability data.

y0y0y0y0shi0
2009-09-03, 12:35 PM
Brawl didn't suck, I just felt like melee's fast pace game was much more fun. Brawl is much more user friendly with a lot more flash. It takes some time to get used to but by no means was it horrible.

Seriously though mario galaxy, 100% recommend, it definately is a must have for any wii user.

Edit: the top is ps3 slim, not ps3 vs xbox o.O Thought I'd throw in a wii user in the bunch.

.......
-Points remote at screen-
-Shoots some colorful star floating thing at a monster-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

:goggle:
WORST. GAME. EVER.

LeJoueur
2009-09-03, 12:36 PM
how about you take the graphic and i take the game, the gameplay, the fun?

http://www.meme-archive.org/_images/f47223d763bb385b0a07c27990084671/607%20-%20boobs%20motivator%20priorities%20snes.jpg

KhainiWest
2009-09-03, 01:47 PM
.......
-Points remote at screen-
-Shoots some colorful star floating thing at a monster-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

:goggle:
WORST. GAME. EVER.

You never played it did you? It's very interactive and can be challenging at times. Hell even that guy from Zero Punctuation said the game was fun.

Herbert Jablonski
2009-09-03, 01:51 PM
.......
-Points remote at screen-
-Shoots some colorful star floating thing at a monster-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

:goggle:
WORST. GAME. EVER.

You pretty much just described every video game ever.


That reminds me of Metroid:
-Faces alien on screen-
-Shoots beam at the alien-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Bomberman:
-Places bomb on screen-
-Bomb blows up an enemy-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Legend of Zelda:
-Faces enemy on screen-
-Slashes sword at the enemy-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Wolfenstein:
-Faces Nazi on screen-
-Shoots bullets at the Nazi-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Doom:
-Faces demon on screen-
-Shoots bullets at the demon-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Yoshi's Island:
-Faces enemy on screen-
-Shoots egg at the enemy-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Grand Theft Auto:
-Faces prostitute on screen-
-Shoots bullets at the prostitute-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.



That's really too vague of a reason to hate something.

KhainiWest
2009-09-03, 01:59 PM
You pretty much just described every video game ever.


That reminds me of Metroid:
-Faces alien on screen-
-Shoots beam at the alien-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Bomberman:
-Places bomb on screen-
-Bomb blows up an enemy-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Legend of Zelda:
-Faces enemy on screen-
-Slashes sword at the enemy-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Wolfenstein:
-Faces Nazi on screen-
-Shoots bullets at the Nazi-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Doom:
-Faces demon on screen-
-Shoots bullets at the demon-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Yoshi's Island:
-Faces enemy on screen-
-Shoots egg at the enemy-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.

That reminds me of Grand Theft Auto:
-Faces prostitute on screen-
-Shoots bullets at the prostitute-
Haha you're dead!
/Game.



That's really too vague of a reason to hate something.

Don't forget mario kart! If you hate Mario Kart 64, :pineapple::pineapple::pineapple::pineapple: :pineapple: :pineapple::pineapple::pineapple::pineapple: :pineapple: :pineapple::pineapple: you peach