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KatanaKiwi
2008-07-27, 01:56 PM
Hello there, i am a 169 hero from kradia and me and my NL friend are going to dual both ht heads... now kradia only had had a few test ht runs but i forgot if the 2 fake heads give exp :s and how much xD

would it be worth taking a 2x exp card with me assuming we kill it in 1,5 - 2hours per head (we dual zakum in 55mins with apples)..

so in short:
do the fake heads give exp and how much?

thanks

p.s. if anybody could give me advice of what job to bring as a seduce mule plz tell me, there will just be: Me, the NL and a seduce mule, we prefer not to bring heal for the seduce mule (or the seduce mule must be a bishop)

Beaner
2008-07-27, 02:02 PM
seduce mule for the 1st head is easy, stick it on the rope at the top. for the second it needs to be healed and be able to take 5-6k dmg.

exp isnt worth the 2x.

Kigaz
2008-07-27, 03:19 PM
well both heads have 330m hp each and have 9,732,030 exp each
basically nearly 700m hp for under 20m exp.

Sn1perJohnE
2008-07-27, 05:05 PM
the exp to hp ratio with a 2x card is roughly 16 exp points per hp of HT, so in training it be worth it, but idk about for the time it would take.

Retalion
2008-07-28, 12:20 AM
the exp to hp ratio with a 2x card is roughly 16 exp points per hp of HT, so in training it be worth it, but idk about for the time it would take.

Even if the hp/exp ratio was worth it, the exp isnt "womgGodly" enough (least I dont think) to justify the pot cost/apple usage for it.

As Carlos said, a seduce mule would be very helpful. Perhaps get various other non-leechiing buffing mules? (Priest + hb?) to help you guys stay alive (unwashed NLs might have trouble surviving head without HB as it is) and whatnot. Priests with hs might help make the exp worthwhile and whatnot (though you'd have to find someone willing to do the job, lol).

Management
2008-07-28, 12:45 AM
the exp to hp ratio with a 2x card is roughly 16 exp points per hp of HT, so in training it be worth it, but idk about for the time it would take.

It'd actually be about 33 EXP/1HP total since each head gives 9m exp.

Wani
2008-07-28, 01:01 AM
seduce mule for the 1st head is easy, stick it on the rope at the top. for the second it needs to be healed and be able to take 5-6k dmg.

exp isnt worth the 2x.

No, they need to be able to take about 14.5k damage for the second head. It doesn't happen often, but there is a chance they'll run into the head and take the full touch.

Beaner
2008-07-28, 01:06 AM
No, they need to be able to take about 14.5k damage for the second head. It doesn't happen often, but there is a chance they'll run into the head and take the full touch.

if the mule stays at the bottom while beeing healed it wont touch the head unless it walks <<< and jumps into it.

Beserker101
2008-07-28, 01:25 AM
I've never been to HT but I have always wondered why people don't just bring an HP warrior with them to HT (provided they can find on). From what I have heard, a 3X HP warrior has roughly 7K HP, find a like 5X one and that warrior should have close to enough to survive the full touch and deal damage (thank you power guard). Also, I'm sure an HP warrior would be thankful for the EXP at the end (provided they survive).

Harrisonized
2008-07-28, 01:34 AM
I've never been to HT but I have always wondered why people don't just bring an HP warrior with them to HT (provided they can find on). From what I have heard, a 3X HP warrior has roughly 7K HP, find a like 5X one and that warrior should have close to enough to survive the full touch and deal damage (thank you power guard). Also, I'm sure an HP warrior would be thankful for the EXP at the end (provided they survive).
People under level 80 can't enter horntail. And getting a HP warrior mule to level 80 is a pain. D:

Beserker101
2008-07-28, 01:42 AM
People under level 80 can't enter horntail. And getting a HP warrior mule to level 80 is a pain. D:

Right, forgot about the whole level limit thing. Ok, yeah, my bad.

Wani
2008-07-28, 06:03 AM
if the mule stays at the bottom while beeing healed it wont touch the head unless it walks <<< and jumps into it.

You do realise how seduce works right? You can't control how you walk. I've seen sed mules jump into the head before from the bottom. I've accidentally run into the head before down the bottom. I died. Twice. D:

Greg22
2008-07-28, 08:49 AM
Find a high-leveled Shadower with a maxed fake and maybe some decent smokebomb. Shadowers are by far the best for seduce bait.

KatanaKiwi
2008-08-02, 01:46 PM
Right, forgot about the whole level limit thing. Ok, yeah, my bad.

i have 23k hp myself with hb, which is enough hp to take a hornedtail's tail touch damage with powerguards, so why waste party spots on a non-attacking character...

oh and thanks for the advice guys

Derimed
2008-08-02, 02:00 PM
KatanaKiwi:

I talked to Zim, (Zimlicious, the #1 ranked person on your server,) two weeks ago. As of then, Kradia had not taken Horntail down even once. If all the high level legits on your server combined can't take Horntail, I think dualling at this point might be a rash move.

Findings
2008-08-02, 02:53 PM
KatanaKiwi:

I talked to Zim, (Zimlicious, the #1 ranked person on your server,) two weeks ago. As of then, Kradia had not taken Horntail down even once. If all the high level legits on your server combined can't take Horntail, I think dualling at this point might be a rash move.

I'm surprised you took the time to talk to that person about HT, yet know so little about it, unless you completely missed the topic title.

Hornedtail Fake heads

Derimed
2008-08-02, 03:05 PM
I'm surprised you took the time to talk to that person about HT, yet know so little about it, unless you completely missed the topic title.

Hornedtail Fake heads

Lol, I see your point now. Two points of my own.

1. As of the time I quit, I've never been to HT since I am lvl 111. I do indeed know Zim, (and a lot of people who HT,) but I don't know that much about HT.
2. I hope you forgive my mistake of not learning HT procedures at my lvl, because HTing procedures are a wall of text. There's ranged parties, seduce parties, etc., and also detailed instructions on how to kill HT and also how to behave once HT is killed and people are looting. In my server, (Khaini,) the first 2 HT kills were marred by loot-out-of-turns, which caused tons of drama. All this being said, I have no way to know that "fake" HT heads are not some part of this massive wall of text.

To make a long story short, I was trying to help the guy but misinterpreted the stuff being discussed. I apologize, but at the same time point out that it does happen.

Findings
2008-08-02, 03:55 PM
There's no need to apologize, I've made the same mistake before and looked just as foolish (which is why I try to avoid responding unless I'm knowledgeable of the topic subject).

The left and right preliminary heads that you fight could be compared the arms of Zakum, they're just a warm up and a duo is certainly possible, though I personally wouldn't feel like spending so much time doing something so unrewarding.

JezzaRules
2008-08-03, 12:16 AM
With seduce, can u pot while under it? Or are you literally doomed if a priest isn't healing next 2 u?
ON TOPIC: I'm 100% sure the horntail heads give exp but I'm not sure how much exactly...