The I/L Arch Mage Build Thread.

[Naixin]

I guess i made this for the people who has questions about 4th job I/L builds and for people to post their builds. I'm hoping for people to get a better idea of I/L 4th job builds through this thread.

My build atm is.

120 - 1 Blizzard, 1 CL, 1 ID
121-128 - 24 CL (25)
129-131 - 9 MW (9)
132-134 - 9 Blizzard (10)
135 - 3 CL
136 - 2 CL (30) 1 ID
137 - 3 ID (5)
138-147 - 30 Ifrit (30)

then idk what xD

I might raise Big Bang.

[butterfλi]

the best archmage build would be one that best fits the player. some people like bossing, they get cl to a decent level and add some ifrit. other like training, they add a few points to blizz (not likely pass 10) then throw points around (CL, id, ifrit). most people know for sure what their build is gonna be once they're 130. by then, they got a feel for blizz training and if training fast is what they want, their build is set.

i did maple warrior from level 120-122 for more int thus more mp per level up.
then balanced around ice demon, cl and ifrit to level around 130.
at 138, i have maxed cl, a level 7 id (hits 3 targets) and some ifrit. blizz is still level 1 which isnt the best level for fastest training but i have other things to add points to.

also, looking for round of even numbers of cap skills isnt a very smart choice. like capping blizz at 10. if you can 2 hit kill newts with a level 8 blizz, its better to cap at 8 because unless a level 10 can 1hit kill, its just wasted mp. this isnt applicable to everyone because everyone has different equips but when adding points to blizz, you have to see if it change anything in your training like number of hits it takes to kill.

[Magus]

the best archmage build would be one that best fits the player. some people like bossing, they get cl to a decent level and add some ifrit. other like training, they add a few points to blizz (not likely pass 10) then throw points around (CL, id, ifrit). most people know for sure what their build is gonna be once they're 130. by then, they got a feel for blizz training and if training fast is what they want, their build is set.

i did maple warrior from level 120-122 for more int thus more mp per level up.
then balanced around ice demon, cl and ifrit to level around 130.
at 138, i have maxed cl, a level 7 id (hits 3 targets) and some ifrit. blizz is still level 1 which isnt the best level for fastest training but i have other things to add points to.

also, looking for round of even numbers of cap skills isnt a very smart choice. like capping blizz at 10. if you can 2 hit kill newts with a level 8 blizz, its better to cap at 8 because unless a level 10 can 1hit kill, its just wasted mp. this isnt applicable to everyone because everyone has different equips but when adding points to blizz, you have to see if it change anything in your training like number of hits it takes to kill.
I agree with a vast majority of what you said; one of the points I don't agree on is the Blizzard comment.
I would actually recommend raising it to 11 if you can, as it doubles it's freeze time. And yes, it is a noticeable difference.

[Alice]

I was going to do
120 -1 Blizz, 2 CL.
121-128 19 Maple Warrior.
Then work on cl.

[Silence]

I was going to do
120 -1 Blizz, 2 CL.
121-128 19 Maple Warrior.
Then work on cl.

unless u're connected... or super rich... i dont think u'll be able to get mw20 soo early.

[JoshKun]

if im not mistaken, there is something odd about the whole lvling from 119 to 120 / aquiring 4th job scenario. I thought at lvl 120 you only had 1 sp to add into 4th job skills. Maybe I just dont remember properly. Also, I suggest instead of maxing ifrit save points for blizz 30 / mw 19. At lvl 148 I have 17 sp saved for these skills seeing that I will be aquiring them soon. (saving sp is just my opinion, but i also have lvl 20 blizz because i train at skeles with bishops and I 2-hko skeles)

just my 2 cents (im funded o.O and high luk T_T)

~Josh

[Dan]

I guess i made this for the people who has questions about 4th job I/L builds and for people to post their builds. I'm hoping for people to get a better idea of I/L 4th job builds through this thread.

My build atm is.

120 - 1 Blizzard, 1 CL, 1 ID
121-128 - 24 CL (25)
129-131 - 9 MW (9)
132-134 - 9 Blizzard (10)
135 - 3 CL
136 - 2 CL (30) 1 ID
137 - 3 ID (5)
138-147 - 30 Ifrit (30)

then idk what xD

I might raise Big Bang.

That's a fine build naixin but i wouldnt raise big bang, well here's mine o.o

120-1 blizzard, 1 cl, 1 id (just to check out the skills)
121-123 9 mw
124-126 9 blizzard(10)
127-136 29 cl (max), 1 id (2)
137-147 3 id (5), max ifrit
148-151 10 blizzard (20) 2 id (7)
152-159 23 id (max) 1 mw (10)
160-168 25 mana reflection, 1 big bang, 1 infinity
169-172 10 blizzard (max) 2 mw (12)
173-176 8 mw (max) 5 mana reflection (max)
177-186 29 big bang (max) 1 infinity (2)
187-196 28 infinity (max)
196-200 just some 3rd job crap like partial resistance

Edit: if you have problems getting blizzard 30 and mw20 [no room in horntail squads, no connections, not funded, blizz constantly failing/never dropping (my problem lol)] then i suggest you save your sp rather than adding mana reflection or big bang like i did.
I was just getting bored of lvling and having nothing to add, don't let it get to you :f3:

[wobbufet]

if im not mistaken, there is something odd about the whole lvling from 119 to 120 / aquiring 4th job scenario. I thought at lvl 120 you only had 1 sp to add into 4th job skills. Maybe I just dont remember properly. Also, I suggest instead of maxing ifrit save points for blizz 30 / mw 19. At lvl 148 I have 17 sp saved for these skills seeing that I will be aquiring them soon. (saving sp is just my opinion, but i also have lvl 20 blizz because i train at skeles with bishops and I 2-hko skeles)

just my 2 cents (im funded o.O and high luk T_T)

~Josh

4th job advancement is actually the only one that gives you 3 free SP instead of 1 :wink:

[Kabanaw]

This is my planned build:

120: 1 mw, 1 blizz, 1 cl
121-122: 3 mw
123: 2 mw (9) 1 id
124: 3 id
125-127: 1 id (7) 2 ifrit (6)
128: 3 ifrit
129: 1 ifrit (10) 2 CL (3)
130-138: 3 CL (max)

After this, I think i'll get blizzard higher and then i'll work on ifrit. I'm getting ifrit to 10 because at that point it lasts for a minute so i don't need to constantly re-summon.

[Darklai]

Well I had my build sorta planned out, but um, everyone's adding points to MW. I always thought we could easily get that through parties and put our points to a better use.

[Kabanaw]

Well I had my build sorta planned out, but um, everyone's adding points to MW. I always thought we could easily get that through parties and put our points to a better use.

Well, I'm adding it because I'm soloing for a while, and it's a good use of SP for me. Besides, delaying everything for three levels is worth it.

[LazyBui]

When I go back to my IL, I'm going to do an odd build. It's going to be based around Ice Demon rather than Ifrit or Chain Lightning or Blizzard.

Level 25: MP - 34 (68) / Attack power 90 (122) / 15 seconds / 55% Mastery / 6 enemies / 3 second freeze / 300%

Probably get it up to here first. That way, I can hit 3+ enemies (not hard at Peak, etc.) and be doing 1/45 HP damage per second on as many as I hit. I figure if I go around the map doing that, I can finish off monsters pretty quickly with what little Chain Lightning I have.

I'm not interested in spending 50 million mesos per level on potions and that damn Jr. Newtie on the ultimate spamming platform has a tendency to kill me - although I could probably get used to that. I'm also not interested in fat summons that are fat and not icey (why the fuck else would I PICK IL, seriously).

Bossing isn't a big deal for me, I can just use my Night Lord. I never expected to be able to boss on my IL after it was plainly obvious that the two wizard tracks suck for bossing.

Anyway, that's probably what I'll do. Ice Demon -> Maple Warrior -> Chain Lightning -> Ifrit -> Infinity -> Blizzard.

[Naixin]

That's a fine build naixin but i wouldnt raise big bang, well here's mine o.o

120-1 blizzard, 1 cl, 1 id (just to check out the skills)
121-123 9 mw
124-126 9 blizzard(10)
127-136 29 cl (max), 1 id (2)
137-147 3 id (5), max ifrit
148-151 10 blizzard (20) 2 id (7)
152-159 23 id (max) 1 mw (10)
160-168 25 mana reflection, 1 big bang, 1 infinity
169-172 10 blizzard (max) 2 mw (12)
173-176 8 mw (max) 5 mana reflection (max)
177-186 29 big bang (max) 1 infinity (2)
187-196 28 infinity (max)
196-200 just some 3rd job crap like partial resistance

Edit: if you have problems getting blizzard 30 and mw20 [no room in horntail squads, no connections, not funded, blizz constantly failing/never dropping (my problem lol)] then i suggest you save your sp rather than adding mana reflection or big bang like i did.
I was just getting bored of lvling and having nothing to add, don't let it get to you :f3:

Lol. Nice dan. I saw Ikes thread on SW and big bang looked pretty cool. Mana reflection doesn't look too hot. ID is pointless cause we boss with CL/Ifrit and train with blizz. I'm stuck between infinity or Big Bang after ifrit. Maybe lvl 20 Blizz if im lucky or 30 blizz if im REALLY lucky. 20 MW doesnt hurt either =P

[Gstatue]

Hm. I did a cookie cutter build based around CL, ifrit and bliz. Random points here and there, now at 144. 28 CL (60% mastery), 9 ifrit/10 ID, 18 bliz (I 2hko newts with 18 bliz) and 9 Mw. I don't really remember my build.

I say conserve points if you REALLY don't want ID. Just a side-note, but MW 20 isn't being sold from HT yet, while bliz 30 is, so conserve mesos for bliz 30.

[Dan]

i failed mw 20 at last night's ht run :f4:

[Sailor Psychic]

I'm not sure what my build will be. Right now, at level 120, I have 1 Blizzard, 1 Chain Lightning, and 1 Ice Demon. I'd like to be able to boss, but I guess training is more important because I'll level enough to get CL. However, I don't know where to train. Newties are practically always full (on Scania), and I tried Sky Nest II for a few hours and actually was losing money (maybe I'm doing it wrong), so I don't know where to train with Blizzard. I recently started soloing at Himes with Ice Strike (I was at Gobies until then), and it's decent EXP. I think ID and Ifrit is best for there.

Anyone have advice? And for those posting their builds, where are you training?

[butterfλi]

I'm not sure what my build will be. Right now, at level 120, I have 1 Blizzard, 1 Chain Lightning, and 1 Ice Demon. I'd like to be able to boss, but I guess training is more important because I'll level enough to get CL. However, I don't know where to train. Newties are practically always full (on Scania), and I tried Sky Nest II for a few hours and actually was losing money (maybe I'm doing it wrong), so I don't know where to train with Blizzard. I recently started soloing at Himes with Ice Strike (I was at Gobies until then), and it's decent EXP. I think ID and Ifrit is best for there.

Anyone have advice? And for those posting their builds, where are you training?
harps are only a gold mine if you have a pet. circle the map.


this is my route.

black are the platforms.
grey are the ropes/ladders.
red dot is where i stand.
blue square is where blizzard hits.
poorly drawn green line is the path i take.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2iats9h.jpg

you can see that the green path will loot everything that drops. since things disappear around 3minutes, i loot every time meditate runs out (200 seconds).

with looting, i get around 3mil an hour and 1hit kill the red harps. MOST of the time, i 1hit kill the blue ones. ice strike finishes the ones that dont die.

[Goals]

My build is:

1 Blizzard
Max Chain Lightning
9 Maple Warrior
Max Blizzard
5 Ice Demon
Max Ifrit

I don't know what to do after that. XD

Currently raising enough to get godly gear and blizzard 30 again :) (I was hacked)

[Kabanaw]

harps are only a gold mine if you have a pet. circle the map.


this is my route.

black are the platforms.
grey are the ropes/ladders.
red dot is where i stand.
blue square is where blizzard hits.
poorly drawn green line is the path i take.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2iats9h.jpg

you can see that the green path will loot everything that drops. since things disappear around 3minutes, i loot every time meditate runs out (200 seconds).

with looting, i get around 3mil an hour and 1hit kill the red harps. MOST of the time, i 1hit kill the blue ones. ice strike finishes the ones that dont die.


And how good experience is that?

[EchoFaith]

And how good experience is that?

its quite bad for exp, especially in the later levels. however, meso and npc drops here can be used to fund your blizzard training elsewhere, making it worth doing if you don't have an alternate source of income. (but as butterfli said, it requires a pet)

[Hazzy]

I've heard that a Mage's Summons have as big of an impact on their damage a Hermit's Shadow Partner. If this is true, why do all these builds get Ifrit after Chain Lightning? o_0
Would an Ifrit be of any help at Newties for killing the one that spawns on the Blizzard Plat? :f6: (Blizzard Spammming, of course)

I heard someone say they got Maple Hero early on for more MP; would a 5% increase in INT really have that huge of an effect? A Lukless would have around 700 Magic by 120, right? Five percent is only 35 more INT, which comes out at not even four more MP a level. o_0 Would 35 more Magic even be noticable in your damage?

Heh, just curious about some of these builds. xD

[Kabanaw]

its quite bad for exp, especially in the later levels. however, meso and npc drops here can be used to fund your blizzard training elsewhere, making it worth doing if you don't have an alternate source of income. (but as butterfli said, it requires a pet)

So this is for when you're almost broke after blizzard eats all your money.

It could also be used as an easy source of money if you're saving up to buy a silver mane or something.

[fiftyschmooo]

Don't know how it is in other Servers but in Bera there is also the chance to Leech train some people here, ive seen many mages just soloing and ppl come by and ask to Pay them to train them, this would just happen as i was watching ppl kill while i was lookin for a ch to train from 74-94 ish (yes its amazing exp i dont know why no guide says to train here.. but ya.. you can make this an alyternate income, the other people in this thread are saying you can make 3M an hr from drops and looting, and ive seen most leech buyers looking to pay 4-5M per hour so you can kick your money Per hour up possiblly to ~ 5-6M an hr(cause they would be looting some too inadvertantly) which is amazing @ any lvl

[butterfλi]

its quite bad for exp, especially in the later levels. however, meso and npc drops here can be used to fund your blizzard training elsewhere, making it worth doing if you don't have an alternate source of income. (but as butterfli said, it requires a pet)

Hey, hey. For those of us who don't have hs and don't have a map to train on because level 7x and 8x ranged people take our training spots, 3mil exp an hour at late 13x is GAWDLY.

[xpimnoob]

il builds are kind of uselss since nobody trains without blizzard

[Hazzy]

il builds are kind of uselss since nobody trains without blizzard

I'm sure there's plenty of people who enjoy training that isn't just holding down a key with an Autopotting Pet.
I know I'd opt for a Chain Lightning Build over Blizzard if I wasn't loaded/needed to update my gear.

[butterfλi]

I'm sure there's plenty of people who enjoy training that isn't just holding down a key with an Autopotting Pet.

If there is, I haven't found one. However, I still have a level 1 blizzard at 138. I maxed CL and currently maxing ifrit for my pap solo's. You might change your mind after doing that holding-down-one-key-training.

[Kabanaw]

If there is, I haven't found one. However, I still have a level 1 blizzard at 138. I maxed CL and currently maxing ifrit for my pap solo's. You might change your mind after doing that holding-down-one-key-training.

my plan is to get ID to 7, ifrit to 10 so it has a decent timer, then max CL and after that max ifrit. By the low 140s, I'll start working on MW/blizzard.

[xpimnoob]

for all of you that say they are going to train with CL and ifirt and id and crap, thats what i did. nobody wants you in their parties cuz your too cheap to blizz (which is me)

[Hazzy]

If there is, I haven't found one. However, I still have a level 1 blizzard at 138. I maxed CL and currently maxing ifrit for my pap solo's. You might change your mind after doing that holding-down-one-key-training.

If I wanted to level, I'd probably opt to Blizzard. However, since I have a bad habit of never owning more than five million, I'd probably train somewhere to make money. :x