Thieve's What to Buy? Thread

[Acim]

Yeah, copied from SW. Woot.

Ask questions about what to buy here. Be sure to include:

-server
-how much money you have
-other information the answerer may need

I'm surprised SP doesn't have a thread like this. And also, another rule: no obvious, completely stupid questions. (An example of a stupid question is: I have 10mil shud i by dis 55att clw i c for 10mil or dis 1luk hat 4 10mil?)

Should I start? I will.

What should I get with my leftover money? (~60mil in Scania) A Zakum Helmet or a decently scrolled Diamond Dagger (or scroll my own), or a DEX bottom (I got a LUK top.)? So much options, lets get this going!

[Blankout]

Should I just buy the regular armors for my bandit, or try scrolling a good Sauna Robe to keep for 30+ levels?

[Icetroopers]

Yeah, copied from SW. Woot.



What should I get with my leftover money? (~60mil in Scania) A Zakum Helmet or a decently scrolled Diamond Dagger (or scroll my own), or a DEX bottom (I got a LUK top.)? So much options, lets get this going!

I would suggest buying a zhelm since the dex with you zhelm will cover the dex needed for your bottom for now. Also depending on your current dagger the extra ap points from zhelm may also cover for the diamond dagger. thats wat i think =D


Should I just buy the regular armors for my bandit, or try scrolling a good Sauna Robe to keep for 30+ levels?

how much money do u have?

[Blankout]

5 mil plus a whole bunch of random scrolls and maple items I need to sell off.

[Acim]

5 mil plus a whole bunch of random scrolls and maple items I need to sell off.

In Khaini, I don't know the scroll prices but you should probably just go with regular armor, and save up for a 15+ luk top and 13+ DEX bottom at level 50.

Another question from me! If I don't get a zhelm with 60mil, DEX bottom or scroll a weapon?

[xLeviathan]

Another question from me! If I don't get a zhelm with 60mil, DEX bottom or scroll a weapon?

I assume money only permits one, you'd probably get more out of a scrolled Diamond Dagger.

Just my opinion.
:wink:

This is kind of a different question.
I want at least 20+ LUK on my overall, I have all great equips except my overall.
Mesos also are not a problem...but I want to scroll the overall myself since people think a 20+ LUK overall in Khaini is worth some outrageous price...
What scrolls should I buy? I'm really scared of blowing the stuff to pieces because my 1st zhelm blew up on the first slot with a 70%.
But I want good stats on my overall...should I go with 30%'s or can I do good with all 60's?

[Bucket]

But I want good stats on my overall...should I go with 30%'s or can I do good with all 60's?

Well, if you really want a 20+ on no other condition you'd have to hit all 10 60%'s without fail, and that can be a bit of a cunt. That combined with the absolutely wonky prices of most 60% overall scrolls
in Broa at least, but I doubt everything is 1/3rd the price in every other server. 30%'s on the other hand give out 5 LUK per hit and hitting just two would already get you halfway there, but there's a risk of exploding and utter failure as such. It's generally best to start off with say, two 30%'s and finish with 60%'s at which point you'd only need 5 of them to get to the great big number of 20.
Guess it all adds up to how badly 30%'s scare you in the end. Don't expect 20 LUK from just 60%'s though, as the chances aren't all that great.

[xLeviathan]

Well, if you really want a 20+ on no other condition you'd have to hit all 10 60%'s without fail, and that can be a bit of a cunt. That combined with the absolutely wonky prices of most 60% overall scrolls
in Broa at least, but I doubt everything is 1/3rd the price in every other server. 30%'s on the other hand give out 5 LUK per hit and hitting just two would already get you halfway there, but there's a risk of exploding and utter failure as such. It's generally best to start off with say, two 30%'s and finish with 60%'s at which point you'd only need 5 of them to get to the great big number of 20.
Guess it all adds up to how badly 30%'s scare you in the end. Don't expect 20 LUK from just 60%'s though, as the chances aren't all that great.

Well, any of the overall LUK scrolls are damn outrageous. :f7:.
I can well afford any amount of scrolls I need but I don't wanna go and blow 250M and end up with nothing and could have bought one for the same price.
But seriously, I'm taking your suggestion, but I might kick it up to 3 30%'s.

Thanks.
:wink:.

[Sinful]

I assume money only permits one, you'd probably get more out of a scrolled Diamond Dagger.

Just my opinion.
:wink:

This is kind of a different question.
I want at least 20+ LUK on my overall, I have all great equips except my overall.
Mesos also are not a problem...but I want to scroll the overall myself since people think a 20+ LUK overall in Khaini is worth some outrageous price...
What scrolls should I buy? I'm really scared of blowing the stuff to pieces because my 1st zhelm blew up on the first slot with a 70%.
But I want good stats on my overall...should I go with 30%'s or can I do good with all 60's?

Reading your sig, you're dexless so here's my 2 cents.

Get a 3-4 30%'d overall. Then 60% the rest. Or at least buy a 24+ luck one. If you want to stay dexless til end-game. Then you're going to have to get a nice one.

[Shinryuji]

[Windia] [Level 77 Hermit] [LUK 299 Total] [DEX 119Total] [Messed up 30 AP]
50 ATK 1 LUK 5 DEX Green Scarab
Stud Set
6 DEX Black Snow Shoes
7 ATK Work Glove
1 Steely, 13 Tobis
2 ATK 4 LUK PAC
3 DEX 4 slots Earrings

3.5 mil on hand and a taru totem pole (might sell it for 65mil+)

i'm thinking i should update the glove first and then the cape or just go get a zhelm

if i do update the glove, what ATK should i get?

[DrRusty]

[Windia] [Level 77 Hermit] [LUK 299 Total] [DEX 119Total] [Messed up 30 AP]
50 ATK 1 LUK 5 DEX Green Scarab
Stud Set
6 DEX Black Snow Shoes
7 ATK Work Glove
1 Steely, 13 Tobis
2 ATK 4 LUK PAC
3 DEX 4 slots Earrings

3.5 mil on hand and a taru totem pole (might sell it for 65mil+)

i'm thinking i should update the glove first and then the cape or just go get a zhelm

if i do update the glove, what ATK should i get?

taru totem is worth more than 65m, its almost 100 mil now. I would get a zhelm first, then you should have enough for a 9 atk with the left over mesos, and even a 10 atk if u can sell ur 7 atk.

[Kranzorbaken]

Okay so heres my situation.
Im reg dex lvl 32 and should have 40+ mil.
All i really have is a 8 att wg and 3 kumbis.
(i found this char on an old old old account)
I might have 100m though.

So could you help me with what i could do with 40 mil.
And if i get 100 mil what i could do with that.

p.s ( v.i.p is 45 mil in mardia)

[Kigaz]

Okay so heres my situation.
Im reg dex lvl 32 and should have 40+ mil.
All i really have is a 8 att wg and 3 kumbis.
(i found this char on an old old old account)
I might have 100m though.

So could you help me with what i could do with 40 mil.
And if i get 100 mil what i could do with that.

p.s ( v.i.p is 45 mil in mardia)

i'd get a claw to start off with, and some tobis.
you dont need a zhelm yet, zhelms are a luxury item tbh,and you dont need it,people who get zhelms at lvl 50 are people who have like,1 bil in funding.

[Kranzorbaken]

Yah i'm not worried about anything higher than tobis.
Tobis are 2.5-3mil in mardia...............................nuff said
What claw should i get a decent kandayo or should i just 100% till 50-60 then get good scrolled.
And like how many tobis 7-10
EDIT: i dont care to much about damage but i don't want to be to weak ya know.
Oh and i know this should go in the ther thread but its a short question.
Since im not really rich and i wanna be relatively reg dex when should i cap.
Like rabs need 110 and i wouldn't doubt ill have a helm by 70 >.> (slow leveler here)
So if i had like 95 base dex that'd be fine or maybe like 90 incase i get some dex shoes but nothing to special.

Sorry for horrible typing, to lazy to correct my small grammer shit lol.

[Kigaz]

Yah i'm not worried about anything higher than tobis.
Tobis are 2.5-3mil in mardia...............................nuff said
What claw should i get a decent kandayo or should i just 100% till 50-60 then get good scrolled.
And like how many tobis 7-10
EDIT: i dont care to much about damage but i don't want to be to weak ya know.
Oh and i know this should go in the ther thread but its a short question.
Since im not really rich and i wanna be relatively reg dex when should i cap.
Like rabs need 110 and i wouldn't doubt ill have a helm by 70 >.> (slow leveler here)
So if i had like 95 base dex that'd be fine or maybe like 90 incase i get some dex shoes but nothing to special.

Sorry for horrible typing, to lazy to correct my small grammer shit lol.

90 base dex is relatively high nowadays even for regular dex NL's
you can get dex from....helm,cape,earrings,face accessory,shoes,overall,tops that come with dex,bottoms scrolled with dex :x
7-10 tobis is good enough,i used 10 ilbis for a really long time,i'd say use a decent kandayo,maybe 40-ish attack,and try n save money n get a 50 atk scarab

[Kranzorbaken]

Well what would be a good set to cap at?
Lvl 30
Lvl 40

Im thinking 40 because i could make up the dex with that set + a few other things to hold the lvl 50 claw.

Actually im going to do capped at 60.
And if i have to i can always raise my base.

EDIT: ty for your help it's much appreciated.

[Acim]

Well what would be a good set to cap at?
Lvl 30
Lvl 40

Im thinking 40 because i could make up the dex with that set + a few other things to hold the lvl 50 claw.

Actually im going to do capped at 60.
And if i have to i can always raise my base.

EDIT: ty for your help it's much appreciated.

I like capping DEX higher, I don't know why, so I'd cap it at the level 40 set. However, for some reason level 50 sets are more commonly scrolled (and look 100 times better), which is why I stopped adding DEX after the level 50 requirement (90).

Here's one. I'm saving for nothing in particular, so let's just say I have the amount of mesos I'd need for the equip in question. Should I get DEX Snowshoes or a better attack glove (better than 10 att 1 luk) after my zhelm? :D

[Kranzorbaken]

I could help with this one,maybe...
well what is the weapon youd be trying to equip with the extra dex.
What att wg would you get?
If you make up more wep att with a weapon you could now equip with the more dex then thatd be more dmg.
But if youd get more dmg from the wg do the wg.

Correct me if im wrong which i prob. am.

[Corn]

I could help with this one,maybe...
well what is the weapon youd be trying to equip with the extra dex. A gig or higher, but mostly scarabs.
What att wg would you get? ?
If you make up more wep att with a weapon you could now equip with the more dex then thatd be more dmg.If I understood you correctly...most of the time you'd have an attack glove. You get the extra dex from other equipment such as capes, helmets, etc.
But if youd get more dmg from the wg do the wg.

Correct me if im wrong which i prob. am.

My comments are in bold.

[Kranzorbaken]

Well i have no idea what you just correct claw.
I asked him what claw he would be trying to equip with the extra dex from the shoes.
And say he had a 40 att claw now and the dex shoes would allow him to equip a 50 thats 10 att more.
Now if the att glove he has is 10 and he got a say 17 thats only 7 att.
So the shoes would benedit him more if he got more att from the new wep he could equip with the new dex bonus from the shoes.
Get it?

[Corn]

-_- Nevermind I only read your post, not the one above it. Sorry.

No wonder I was confused.

[Kranzorbaken]

lmfao no prob.

[Kranzorbaken]

Woot got 7 tobis, 5 dex cape, 8 att wg, my 100%ed 23 att meba.
and 39.3 mil left.
I dont think i should buy anything else for now.
Thanks for the help :glitter:

oops sorry for double post

[Acim]

Woot got 7 tobis, 5 dex cape, 8 att wg, my 100%ed 23 att meba.
and 39.3 mil left.
I dont think i should buy anything else for now.
Thanks for the help :glitter:

oops sorry for double post

How much do steelies cost in Mardia? I wouild say get a set of those if they aren't so expensive.

[Kranzorbaken]

No, never getting steelies in mardia till i have more money or they drop in price. there fking 9.5-10 mil fk that lol.
No way am i paying that for a few extra attack at my lvl

[Acim]

10m in Scania too. Ilbis are almost 30m now...

I just got a 50 att Bracer for my dexless sin. I still have enough for a zhelm. After that, should I save money for Facestompers or a LUK Sauna, or better (11+ att) gloves?

[BelleShadow]

Yay, one of these threads! Wonderful, I need some upgrade advice:

I'm in Khaini

lvl 85 Hermit
90 base dex

52 att 3 luk green scarab
10 att 4 luk glove
2 att 6 luk pink cape
22 luk 4 dex red avenger overall
7 dex black snowshoes
9 dex earrings
lvl 70 maple hat
2 luk 2 dex spiegelman necklace

I throw tobies (12 sets)

77M


I need a little more advice than simply "get a zhelm" (already could have figured that out for myself... I want a pirate hat for a while first). The market's pretty expensive right now (sorry, understatement, read:retardedly expensive) so I was wondering if I should wait till the market cools off a bit - selling scrolls and whatnot all the while and getting rich - or if I should bite the bullet, and buy something new and expensive.

One idea I did have was to check out a 5% Slot scroll, but wasn't sure if they're such a slim chance as to be just a waiste of mesos...

[Acim]

I need a little more advice than simply "get a zhelm" (already could have figured that out for myself... I want a pirate hat for a while first). The market's pretty expensive right now (sorry, understatement, read:retardedly expensive) so I was wondering if I should wait till the market cools off a bit - selling scrolls and whatnot all the while and getting rich - or if I should bite the bullet, and buy something new and expensive.

One idea I did have was to check out a 5% Slot scroll, but wasn't sure if they're such a slim chance as to be just a waiste of mesos...
I'm not too great at this, but I'd definetely get better stars. A few pairs of steelies/ilbis, atleast. And really, a zhelm is a big help. I'd upgrade the cape just a bit, sell the old one and you can probably afford something slightly better.

[Matty]

Im a level 25 Dexless Bandit with NPC bought equips and a Tri Zamadar.
What weapon/equips should I get/use?
Im in Yellonde so I dont have much mesos, so tellme items cheap :D

[FantaTwist]

Not the best around but I have no idea what to get next
-Red craven 60 atk (This claw isn't mine, I'm borrowing it but the claw i'm buying has been taken care of)
-Brown work gloves 14 atk
-Pink cape 4 atk, 8 luk
-Face stompers 2 atk 4 dex
-Zakum helmet 23 dex, 15 luk, 15 str, 15 int 1 slot
-Horntail pendant 22 dex, 22 luk, 22 str, 22 int 2 slots
-Red rose earrings 12 dex
-Top 18 luk, 2 dex
-Bottoms 15 dex
-Rat mouth 75 hp
Total dex: 140 (62+78)
Total luk: 694 (623+71)
Any advice?
Forget about money problems, It's easily handled for me

[Firefux]

Not the best around but I have no idea what to get next
-Red craven 60 atk (This claw isn't mine, I'm borrowing it but the claw i'm buying has been taken care of)
-Brown work gloves 14 atk
-Pink cape 4 atk, 8 luk
-Face stompers 2 atk 4 dex
-Zakum helmet 23 dex, 15 luk, 15 str, 15 int 1 slot
-Horntail pendant 22 dex, 22 luk, 22 str, 22 int 2 slots
-Red rose earrings 12 dex
-Top 18 luk, 2 dex
-Bottoms 15 dex
-Rat mouth 75 hp
Total dex: 140 (62+78)
Total luk: 694 (623+71)
Any advice?
Forget about money problems, It's easily handled for me

Get better stars, anything else isn't worth upgrading from what you have.

[rippleinthewater]

http://tinyurl.com/2147x2

Plus maybe another 1-2b if my SCG/FS/Bow & Claw & Chaos Scrolls investment pays off well. Equip-less. SUGGESTIONS!? I haven't been on par with scrolled equips' prices whatsoever lately and knowing me I'll spend it all on one good item and be stuck with it for half a year then break my back trying to sell it SO BEFORE I DO THAT any idea on how I can maximize gear?

[FantaTwist]

Get better stars, anything else isn't worth upgrading from what you have.
I forgot to add, I have 16 illbis. 16 c.illbis is far too expensive to buy for a shabby 2 extra attack.

[BelleShadow]

I forgot to add, I have 16 illbis. 16 c.illbis is far too expensive to buy for a shabby 2 extra attack.


you seem maxed out! I'm envious. My advice is to start funding for another character, and enjoy your godly Night Lord.

Or save for a higher attack craven/dragon sleeve

[Shinryuji]

Not the best around but I have no idea what to get next
-Red craven 60 atk (This claw isn't mine, I'm borrowing it but the claw i'm buying has been taken care of)
-Brown work gloves 14 atk
-Pink cape 4 atk, 8 luk
-Face stompers 2 atk 4 dex
-Zakum helmet 23 dex, 15 luk, 15 str, 15 int 1 slot
-Horntail pendant 22 dex, 22 luk, 22 str, 22 int 2 slots
-Red rose earrings 12 dex
-Top 18 luk, 2 dex
-Bottoms 15 dex
-Rat mouth 75 hp
Total dex: 140 (62+78)
Total luk: 694 (623+71)
Any advice?
Forget about money problems, It's easily handled for me

only thing i can suggest is a stronger claw :|

i don't see how people can max out on mesos lol >_>

[FantaTwist]

I may do 15-17 atk gloves or better luk top or dex bottoms, not sure yet =/ *sigh*...

[LordDuck]

Level 25 regular dex bandit
server = scania
mesos = 50 mil
I already got a 70 att wagner, and will NOT use a sauna or bathrobe. I don't think I will come much higher then level 50, so I won't need to save for future weapons.

[Greg22]

Level 25 regular dex bandit
server = scania
mesos = 50 mil
I already got a 70 att wagner, and will NOT use a sauna or bathrobe. I don't think I will come much higher then level 50, so I won't need to save for future weapons.

If you're planning on sticking around level 50, then get yourself a 2 ATK Pink Adventurer and self-scroll it (You're normal DEX; if you're not dependent on DEX to equip your weapon, then self-scrolling is the cheapest way to go.)
If you don't have a 10 ATK or higher glove, you could easily get one of those for 25m or less.

[LordDuck]

In scania 10 atk gloves are already 50 mil+, and a clean 2 att pa will cost about 20 mil, so I don't think I can buy them.

[karashi]

ok i have some issue on upgrading my gears X_X please give me some advice...

17 ~ 18 dex zhelm (i think, either 15 or 16 based with 1 70% success)
100%ed normal red avenger
9 atk wg
37/4 atk bracer (dont ask... =_=)
8 dex cape (icarus 1)
2 dex necklace
(i think) 3 dex black ss (6 slot)
(yes, i dont have dex earring)

45 base dex (former dexless) at lv 87

using mainly tobies (around 12 set of them i think, found a couple of them during training/hunting) 2 steelies and 1 maple star

what i should be upgrading next? X_X

oh my fund is low X_X (why the hell i chose hermit on first place... T_T) around 30m only

attempted to scroll myself a skanda, but failed badly (35/1 5 slot and 36/0 5 slot..... i hate scrolling X_X)

[Acim]

If you need the DEX, finish scrolling the shoes/get a better overall.

If your all set for DEX, I don't know, probably upgrade your claw. (You could also sell your 9 att WG and buy a 10 att WG)

[rippleinthewater]

Re-posting.

6-7bil budget. Equipless. Windian. Dexless although I have 100 APs saved due to my unconfirmed future claw so I'm welcoming suggestions to that and whatever else it deducts to and ultimately any ways I can maximize gear with the given budget. Windia's a shithole when it comes to equips though so I'll most likely purchase them from Scania or Bera (?) so traces from those two servers are more ideal but whatever.