Mkay so.

[DirtyLisa]

Level 63 idiot Sin here.
Basically I want to remain pretty lowdex but I want to wear a caster when I reach level 90. ATM my basedex is 55, and with equips it is at 88.
These are my current equips.
Zakum helm +15 on everything.
No cape currently, I had a 9dex one but I had to give it back to the owner.
8 atk work glove.
10dex overall 0slots.
1dex 1luk 1int necklace.
5dex snowshoes.
2dex slot earrings
and a 40 atk dayo.

basically I need some advice on how I should stat and what sort of equips I need to buy. While remaining lowdex and being able to wear the casters when I want to.

[kleptophobia]

Well if money is not really an issue then obviously...

-Invest in ~10 dex earrings
-A dex cape (preferably a pink one)
-Higher dex shoes, around 12 (which are cheap due to Face Stompers, which are a better investment in the long run)
-Around 20 Dex sauna (or go for a ~18 luk top, and ~14 dex pants)
-And raise your dex the remainder to equip a casters.

But I inquire as to why a casters, why not a scarab or mamba?

[xLeviathan]

See Lisa, nothing to be worried about.

The first answer was pretty good ideas :)

[Zaotsu]

I assume your character is female? If so, you can easily get a 14 dex overall just with 100%'s on the Avenger. If you have the money, try for at least a 20 dex, 24+ if possible overall. Aim for a 8-10 dex cape or so if you can. That'll be 112 dex total, need another 18 at that point. 8-10 dex on the earrings and maybe 9-10 or so on the shoes. You'd have to squeeze another 3 out of that somehow, but that would mean Face Accessory for Dex or even scrolling your helm. I'd possibly consider raising dex at that point.

In order of priority... I'd say overall -> cape -> earrings / shoes -> face

[kleptophobia]

In order of priority... I'd say overall -> cape -> earrings / shoes -> face Agreed, but just in case, I'd add zakum helmet as last, due to high risk of explosion and the need to re-loot. That is if she must dex her helm.

[DirtyLisa]

Well if money is not really an issue then obviously...

-Invest in ~10 dex earrings
-A dex cape (preferably a pink one)
-Higher dex shoes, around 12 (which are cheap due to Face Stompers, which are a better investment in the long run)
-Around 20 Dex sauna (or go for a ~18 luk top, and ~14 dex pants)
-And raise your dex the remainder to equip a casters.

But I inquire as to why a casters, why not a scarab or mamba?
Money is sort of a problem atm, but I am more than likely having my brother buy me mesos... but as far as to why casters, idk, I just like them. I am willing to use any good claw but I want the casters.

[kleptophobia]

Alright for casters it may be necessary to raise your dex a bit, just not too much. And if money is an issue I'd suggest buying pre-scrolled... saves yourself from failure.

[FantaTwist]

Well since you're level 63, you have some time and planning this early is also a great idea. I personally think you should scroll some pants with dex and top with luk if money isn't the problem, then just as everyone said try find some 10 dex earrings and if you were to aim a bit higher I would get face stompers with dex. You'd obviously have to add dex while leveling still but it's probably the strongest you can ever get.

[Silver_ice]

ok so u need 60 dex.
since u got 55 base and ur zhelm adds 15=70+60=130 so ya.

how to get to 130

first, if ur really frugal for funds try getting a 10 dex icarus cape.
50 dex now.

next. raise the overall
try buying a 4/5 dex one from nath and u can try scrolling it with a 30 first, try n get 2 to work so its 14 dex 8 slots. then just 60% or 100% the rest of the way , thats 22 dex up from 10->50-12=38 needed now.

the next thing would be trying to get better shoes.. 5 dex is nice but 10 dex is pretty cheap, if they arent facestompers that is.

33 dex needed now.

next.
aim for better earrings
2->8 -10 dex ones.
that would make 6-8 dex added.
25-27 dex needed now.
heres the problem, since we are missing a bit of dex from here

i dunno if this is cheap in ur server, but rat mouth/branch noses come with 7 slots and can be scrolled for dex.

if thats not an option
try getting a 16 dex or better yellow adventure cape.
that could raise ur dex by 6 so u only need around 20 more.

the next cheapest would be to upgrade the overall so its around 25-30 dex.
then u might need to add a few scrolls onto a zhelm and you'd be done.
be warned though, i wouldnt scroll ur zhelm unless u end up going to zak often and could replace it if it breaks. its quite dangerous

so to reiterate

buy
16+ dex yellow adventure cape
-> avenger-> 25 dex or higher
snowshoes-> 10 dex or higher
earrings if possible-> 10 or more
nose branch? ->world domination

[xLeviathan]

Meh, I'll be backing her meso-wise, cost of items shouldn't be a problem.
What I want to know so we know what to shoot for is, her base dex needs to be 60 or 70?

[Mopsy]

55 base
25 dex overall
10 dex earrings
10 dex cape
10 dex (non facestompers)
15 dex zhelm
5 dex face peice


Or if you've got lots of money, more dex on the overall, and zhelm, and get facestompers or higher attack pink capes for optimal damage.

(this is assuming you don't want to raise base of course, because raising it to allow Face Stomper/pinkcape use is a better choice really)

[xLeviathan]

Question: This is making me think...

I'm currently at a higher damage range than her, by quite a bit, though she's 3 levels higher.
Is this going to change if she gets a regular claw?

I kinda wanted to stay Dexless and be one of the few that did stay at 25 Dex into the NL stages.
:S.

[Zaotsu]

I assume you're dexless with luk equips right? 55 base is 30 more stat points in luk already, which is a 6 level difference. Depending on your equips, that gap just gets wider since she has dex equips. Obviously once she starts to get more att from her claws than you can with your Skanda / Kandayo her range will begin to beat yours, but she'll need at about 6 att to merely make up for the difference in base.

[xLeviathan]

I assume you're dexless with luk equips right? 55 base is 30 more stat points in luk already, which is a 6 level difference. Depending on your equips, that gap just gets wider since she has dex equips. Obviously once she starts to get more att from her claws than you can with your Skanda / Kandayo her range will begin to beat yours, but she'll need at about 6 att to merely make up for the difference in base.

A casters is only 42 ATK Clean, and a decent one is probably 54+?
If that's as high as she goes with her dex, couldn't I just get a 54 ATK Skanda AND have my ATT EQ's (4/6 Cape, 2 FS), and be about even with her, then?

[Silver_ice]

A casters is only 42 ATK Clean, and a decent one is probably 54+?
If that's as high as she goes with her dex, couldn't I just get a 54 ATK Skanda AND have my ATT EQ's (4/6 Cape, 2 FS), and be about even with her, then?

young dexless man. as the lvl raises, weapon atk becomes greater than simple luk/dex stats.. and skandas become more and more obsolete vs higher atk claws like 60+ casters/craven/dragon sleeve.

depending on attack, a 54 skanda would be comparable to like a 56 or 57 caster.. this is asumming u both have the same kind of watk from cape and shoes and such, so only the claw is different.

[xLeviathan]

young dexless man. as the lvl raises, weapon atk becomes greater than simple luk/dex stats.. and skandas become more and more obsolete vs higher atk claws like 60+ casters/craven/dragon sleeve.

depending on attack, a 54 skanda would be comparable to like a 56 or 57 caster.. this is asumming u both have the same kind of watk from cape and shoes and such, so only the claw is different.

Then, technically, both Dexless and Low Dex are at a loss unless the Low Dex is high enough to use a Sleve.
Eventually both are going to get outdamaged by a regular Dex user who can use those super-high attack claws as well as Weapon Attack equips. like PAC/FS/WG's.

:f6:

So confusing, lol.
I don't plan on changing my course of action until I notice myself falling behind others.

[Zaotsu]

Then, technically, both Dexless and Low Dex are at a loss unless the Low Dex is high enough to use a Sleve.
Eventually both are going to get outdamaged by a regular Dex user who can use those super-high attack claws as well as Weapon Attack equips. like PAC/FS/WG's.

:f6:

So confusing, lol.
I don't plan on changing my course of action until I notice myself falling behind others.


Low-dex doesn't mean you're restricted to using only Scarabs / Mamba etc. And Dexless doesn't mean you're restricted to only Kandayo / Shinobi / Skanda. Low-dex merely means that you have less base dex than the required of that level, and dexless only means that you have 25 dex base. You could technically be a dexless Caster user if you had good enough equips. <_<

[Silver_ice]

Then, technically, both Dexless and Low Dex are at a loss unless the Low Dex is high enough to use a Sleve.
Eventually both are going to get outdamaged by a regular Dex user who can use those super-high attack claws as well as Weapon Attack equips. like PAC/FS/WG's.

:f6:

So confusing, lol.
I don't plan on changing my course of action until I notice myself falling behind others.

now ur getting it.

put short

the godliest dmg would come from a dexless dragon sleeve user.
though the gear would be almost impossible to obtain, it has been done by some1 in scania.

once u get to a really high lvl, and get a ht pendant and w/e.. its way easier.

base-25
150-25=125 dex needed
helm->32+ dex
ht necklace-23 dex
shoes->15 fs
cape-> could be 10 dex 4 atk/5 atk
earrings->15-18 dex
top->3 dex 18 luk or chaos scrolled for 3 dex+5+5+5+=18 dex
bot->18 dex or so.

minus the top, ur 12 dex short. could easily just use a 35+ dex sauna for almost equal stats and be dexless sleeve user.

but back to topic. as stated above
55 base.
25 overall
10 cape
10 earrings
10 shoes
15 helm.
seems 5 dex short. maybe a 17-19 on a helm and 11 dex shoes. or a slightly better overall would add enough for 130.

[xLeviathan]

Hm, it seems that you could close some of the gap between a dexless Skanda user vs, say, a sleve user with some of the +WATK Chaos Scrolled EQ's.
I've already seen a 6 ATK PAC and 5 ATK FS, that's 5 more WATK than most people would have.

I'm definitely going to investigate this further, and explore my possibilities when the time makes me change my style.
Right now I gather my equipment is worth about 860M, I have no desire to sell it, but I think I could get all the dex equipment I need with it o.o

[Zim]

Level 63 idiot Sin here.
Basically I want to remain pretty lowdex but I want to wear a caster when I reach level 90. ATM my basedex is 55, and with equips it is at 88.
These are my current equips.
Zakum helm +15 on everything.
No cape currently, I had a 9dex one but I had to give it back to the owner.
8 atk work glove.
10dex overall 0slots.
1dex 1luk 1int necklace.
5dex snowshoes.
2dex slot earrings
and a 40 atk dayo.

basically I need some advice on how I should stat and what sort of equips I need to buy. While remaining lowdex and being able to wear the casters when I want to.

Cheapest possible way to maintain a low dex and being able to wear the casters are probably:
9 dex earrings
20DEX Overall 0slots
10 dex gloves
10 dex blacksnow shoes
1 dex pendant
15dex Zhelm
10dex Cape

Your current base dex: 55+75 = 130
DEX required: 130

From there, you can decide if you want to use attack capes, glove attacks, and add to your dex accordingly (Advisable AFTER you scroll your Zhelm!)

[DirtyLisa]

Mkay so, for the time being I am only aiming for either a Skanda or a Rab. However a Caster is staying on my mind.

Ty for all the tips on what to do, you've been really helpful.
<3

[Kranzorbaken]

Correct me if im wrong but if you already have over 40 base dex no use using a skanda or capping at a rab.
You might as well go higher meh what do i know though.