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USMC
2009-07-12, 12:40 AM
Does ACB really save you money? As I recently maxed charged blow on my WK, I have been playing with it for abit. It's true that the stun is uninteruptable by any attack, but it does get canceled if you fail to stun the mob with another charged blow. Resulting in being hit by mob's magic attack. And it's happens quiet often when it comes to a mob or 4-6 that I'm feeling the stun doesn't really save me that tons of money on pot.

Does this get better as you get ACB? Or it's just the way it is?

Stereo
2009-07-12, 01:28 AM
Stun will always be worse than ice for saving money, simply because of 90% vs. 100% success rate.

It does get better with ACB because you don't have a near 1.5 second cast time. Stun only lasts about 2-3 seconds so there's not as much room for failure.

I usually used CB to stun and then only attacked with Powerstrike. If you leave monsters alone, stun lasts anywhere from 4 seconds to when you leave the map (I've seen both Elder Wraiths and Skelegons stunned permanently)

KajitiSouls
2009-07-12, 01:35 AM
Stun will always be worse than ice for saving money, simply because of 90% vs. 100% success rate.

It does get better with ACB because you don't have a near 1.5 second cast time. Stun only lasts about 2-3 seconds so there's not as much room for failure.

I usually used CB to stun and then only attacked with Powerstrike. If you leave monsters alone, stun lasts anywhere from 4 seconds to when you leave the map (I've seen both Elder Wraiths and Skelegons stunned permanently)

I don't remember perma-immobilized mobs. I actually timed a "perma stunned" Dual Ghost Pirate, and it turned out to be roughly 2.4 minutes.

If you employ ACB correctly, it will save you a lot of money. But it can't quite beat Ice Charge in terms of getting the monsters to STFU and not attack you.

So yeah, what Stereo said xD

MasPan
2009-07-12, 01:45 AM
Out of curiosity, can Ice Charged Blow stun and freeze, or will it only stun?

Nikkey
2009-07-12, 04:36 AM
Ice charge doesn't stun. Just freeze.

SlayerZach
2009-07-12, 08:36 AM
Ice charge doesn't stun. Just freeze.
Also, if the monster is immune to freeze (such as Yetis, Blue Wyverns, etc), then Ice (Advanced) Charged Blow will just simply.. damage.

Stereo
2009-07-12, 11:18 AM
I don't remember perma-immobilized mobs. I actually timed a "perma stunned" Dual Ghost Pirate, and it turned out to be roughly 2.4 minutes.

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4340/maple2428.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5009/maple2429.jpg
These were stunned at least for half the duration of the acc pill, you can see it's the same 7. I know some of them were stunned longer than that cause it was early when I came in the map. So probably more like 8-9 minutes. I ended up leaving and re-entering every time I got more than 3-4 stuck like that from then on cause it kinda ruined the spawn rate.

modular
2009-07-12, 11:19 AM
i get the alliance paladin to go in front of me and stun the cgs in cwkpq all the time and he always has ice charge on for it -.-
and yes, they do get stunned

Stereo
2009-07-12, 11:22 AM
Probably using Lightning charge, they're both blue. Ice definitely cannot stun (and if you do stun a monster, it unfreezes)