View Full Version : [Aran] Aran Flaunting Thread!!
Reflexx
2009-07-10, 03:58 AM
Heres my lvl 13 aran in KMS
the skill im using right now is double swing ^^
http://i31.tinypic.com/ejih35.jpg
GMSInfighter
2009-07-10, 04:00 AM
Having an aran to me is a flaunt on it's own lol.
wish I could play =.=
Combattente
2009-07-10, 04:22 AM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6843/maple0051r.jpg
Aran is great.
CommanderJinn
2009-07-10, 07:18 AM
Having an aran to me is a flaunt on it's own lol.
Yeah, I've gotta agree, hasn't it only been out for like a day?
Why're you guys still only lv 13/16? xD jk
Myles
2009-07-10, 10:21 AM
i found the boat from Lien > Vic cute :3
http://i25.tinypic.com/2q36pmp.jpg
EDIT: sorry i have to show this :3
http://i25.tinypic.com/2v847zp.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/20b0eg4.jpg
RAY SUCKS.
Hazzy
2009-07-10, 12:20 PM
Yer all so nib. :[
learn2combo. <3
http://i30.tinypic.com/jtl72g.jpg
Myles
2009-07-10, 12:46 PM
ofc i can get more at a higher-spawning place but still ;-;
500's still pro for a level 15.
EDIT: i coulda got a lot more, obviously, but as you can see i ran out of hp pots ;-;
http://i25.tinypic.com/351g2du.jpg
TKWizard
2009-07-10, 10:38 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/DarkAncient/Maple0001-4.jpg
I know I can do better. Oh well.
Reflexx
2009-07-11, 05:20 AM
Yay 2nd job ^^
this is my Aran using triple swing
http://i28.tinypic.com/2a4tgkm.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/apaemv.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2d17w9.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2d936nn.jpg
Yay 2nd job ^^
this is my Aran using triple swing
http://i28.tinypic.com/2a4tgkm.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/apaemv.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2d17w9.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/2d936nn.jpg
That was pretty hot.
Lubzter
2009-07-11, 03:53 PM
Sorry that this is semi-off-topic but I noticed that all the non-nx'd arans are a weird shade of grey... is that the only skin color available? and any idea why?
Myles
2009-07-11, 04:07 PM
it's just the default skin colour for aran, you can't change it at the beginning.
Sorry that this is semi-off-topic but I noticed that all the non-nx'd arans are a weird shade of grey... is that the only skin color available? and any idea why?
They are grey/brown by default and probably like that for being frozen so many years?
16-18hours of training (lost track) just to get to 50, and then like 5 more of waiting for ranks to update just to get that 10k maple points.
http://i26.tinypic.com/24o7ij6.jpg
And this was earlier today, leveled off of cpq2
http://i32.tinypic.com/2r6341y.jpg
T_T i am endlessly jealous, i want to play kms! :f4:
how did you guys sign up/download it? =[
madanthony
2009-07-12, 05:05 PM
I'm jealous that you can all get such good names.
WayOfTime
2009-07-12, 06:30 PM
Can people who are getting the skills tell us (please) what the quests involve when getting them?
Myles
2009-07-12, 07:19 PM
Can people who are getting the skills tell us (please) what the quests involve when getting them?
combo; usual beginner quests
booster; finish all aran quests, and speak to this lith harbour npc, then go to Rien and speak to another NPC, and you get it
Well, I didn't care too much for Aran back when they were announced, but now I want to try them. ;-;
MasPan
2009-07-12, 08:15 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/apaemv.jpg
Is that the crouch animation, but vertical? :f6:
Stereo
2009-07-12, 08:51 PM
omg, polearmgasm
Now I'm kinda sad that I loaned out my 98/9 Blood Snowboard. Woulda been useful. Maybe I should lay my hands on a good Guan Yu.
I'm also curious how the level 15 "Fast" Gold Surfboard will work out, probably a lot better than those slow lv.10s.
WayOfTime
2009-07-12, 08:58 PM
omg, polearmgasm
Now I'm kinda sad that I loaned out my 98/9 Blood Snowboard. Woulda been useful. Maybe I should lay my hands on a good Guan Yu.
I'm also curious how the level 15 "Fast" Gold Surfboard will work out, probably a lot better than those slow lv.10s.
If the Attack Speed reference chart is correct, max booster and a fast board will yeild 105 attacks a minute with normal attack.
Sivrat
2009-07-12, 10:05 PM
well, i havent been paying much attention to aran, but after looking at a few videos and skill tables, i find myself interested in them. Only one question a few various searches didnt seem to yield is about their HP gain. They have no skill to increase but looking at the pictures and stats in this thread it seems higher then most normal character base hp gain, am I correct in that?
I looked at the hp difference between the first two pictures, since they seem to have the same medal, and so any hp/mp diff from medals would be negated. From those two, it was like 47 hp a level. And just over 7 mp difference(but int gear would make that guess off). Is the hp gain per level naturally like that? Cuz I could definitely see myself playing one of these, and if the hp is good playing to a high enough level/hp washing to go to PB.
Reflexx
2009-07-13, 04:20 AM
wow'zors im a big fan of you mazzstrike, and i play KMS. Downloading is easy but registerin can be little tricky, if you cant register i have 2 inactive accounts im willing to give to you, only cuz ur DK videos are awesome! One has a 92 soulmaster and the other has a lvl 131 Dark knight! PM ME!! and catch me at EllinForest forums please ^^ www.ellinforest.com
kremechoko
2009-07-18, 07:03 PM
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh94/iandykins/KMS%20Aran/MapleStory2009-07-1812-39-08-38.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh94/iandykins/KMS%20Aran/MapleStory2009-07-1816-51-26-15.jpg
Wat.
xLeviathan
2009-07-18, 07:32 PM
Jesus...how the hellll! CONGRATS. That's amazing. I haven't seen any 3rd job Arans in Dar yet.
Where'd you get that ring? Can I get it? D: I'm only level 34...
IsaacGS
2009-07-18, 07:42 PM
yeah that ring is 3 ATT. it's GODLY. You get it when you advance to 3rd, though I believe it's an event.
Piggy 2.0
2009-07-18, 07:47 PM
Screw the ring, I want the dark spigelman and that wolf!
DO WANT. :f5:
yeah that ring is 3 ATT. it's GODLY. You get it when you advance to 3rd, though I believe it's an event.
I don't see how it's godly.
It'd be godly to me if it had slots :goggle:
I'm only 3 levels away from getting it :glitter:
Komality
2009-07-19, 02:46 AM
2atk fs are godly and a 3 atk ring isn't?
In my opinion that ring is the sex, and I wish this was out in GMS so I could replace my dk with it, putting that aside though, about the skills, is it all revolved around just the attack button, no skill setting really? or am I mistaken?
Takebacker
2009-07-19, 02:59 AM
yeah that ring is 3 ATT. it's GODLY. You get it when you advance to 3rd, though I believe it's an event.
You just advance to 3rd? Do characters who're already 3rd job and above automatically get it? ;-;
kremechoko
2009-07-19, 03:00 AM
2atk fs are godly and a 3 atk ring isn't?
In my opinion that ring is the sex, and I wish this was out in GMS so I could replace my dk with it, putting that aside though, about the skills, is it all revolved around just the attack button, no skill setting really? or am I mistaken?
Both. Like, 95% of the skills you have to use the arrow keys and atk key. Some require to use arrow keys/triple atk then press the skill's hotkey.
Komality
2009-07-19, 03:03 AM
That certainly gives me something to look forward to.
You just advance to 3rd? Do characters who're already 3rd job and above automatically get it? ;-;
The event is to advance to 3rd before 2010, and you get the ring to share with all your characters via storage.
2atk fs are godly and a 3 atk ring isn't?
I don't think a 2 atk fs is godly either o_O
but facestompers also have slots, making them chaosable.
Takebacker
2009-07-19, 12:57 PM
The event is to advance to 3rd before 2010, and you get the ring to share with all your characters via storage.
Wow, not bad. I thought it was a 1 month thing. I want. :glitter:
Can you get more than one or is it one of a kind?
Wow, not bad. I thought it was a 1 month thing. I want. :glitter:
Can you get more than one or is it one of a kind?
Why do you need more than one? o_o
It's untradeable and unscissorable, why not just storage it between characters? :f6:
I don't think anyone's going to make 2 lvl70 arans just to test that out.
edit: forgot that you can weird 3 rings at one time, lol.
IsaacGS
2009-07-19, 03:47 PM
The event is to advance to 3rd before 2010, and you get the ring to share with all your characters via storage.
I don't think a 2 atk fs is godly either o_O
but facestompers also have slots, making them chaosable.
But by wearing facestompers, you'd have to take off your other shoes. This is literally free attack from nowhere with no strings attached, and since most characters don't have any rings on (or at least any "useful" ones, though I know wedding rings have decent stats in KMS). From the point of view of someone in GMS, a ring that adds something besides magic defense is a pretty good boost.
Stereo
2009-07-19, 04:04 PM
The event is to advance to 3rd before 2010, and you get the ring to share with all your characters via storage.
I really hope we get storage-tradeable onto our untradeable items in GMS o.o Does that only apply to specially tagged ones or can you store other untradeable stuff too?
I really hope we get storage-tradeable onto our untradeable items in GMS o.o Does that only apply to specially tagged ones or can you store other untradeable stuff too?
Only the ring, so far.
66alex66
2009-07-19, 07:30 PM
wow'zors im a big fan of you mazzstrike, and i play KMS. Downloading is easy but registerin can be little tricky, if you cant register i have 2 inactive accounts im willing to give to you, only cuz ur DK videos are awesome! One has a 92 soulmaster and the other has a lvl 131 Dark knight! PM ME!! and catch me at EllinForest forums please ^^ www.ellinforest.com
wow wish i had fans like that
Hazzy
2009-07-21, 04:47 PM
cPQ is fun.
http://i26.tinypic.com/2m6pl5f.jpg
Foiled
2009-07-21, 10:20 PM
I got so warped up in getting a higher combo I never equiped my level 20 gear, or added my ap/sp. =P KSer ruined the combo though...
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj82/fluffcano/Maple0091.jpg
Styles
2009-07-22, 06:19 AM
wow'zors im a big fan of you mazzstrike, and i play KMS. Downloading is easy but registerin can be little tricky, if you cant register i have 2 inactive accounts im willing to give to you, only cuz ur DK videos are awesome! One has a 92 soulmaster and the other has a lvl 131 Dark knight! PM ME!! and catch me at EllinForest forums please ^^ www.ellinforest.com
you can be fan of me:heart::pineapple:
Chameleonic
2009-07-29, 01:42 AM
Screw the ring, I want the dark spigelman and that wolf!
DO WANT. :f5:
What are the stats on the dark spigelman?
kranten
2009-07-29, 07:09 AM
Can you use chaos scrolls on the second spiegelmann necklace?
@Hazzy
Was that trade wins with rombots?
Can you use chaos scrolls on the second spiegelmann necklace?
Yes.
Hazzy
2009-07-29, 11:53 AM
Was that trade wins with rombots?
Maybe. :ohno:
Cancambo
2009-08-11, 07:48 PM
This. Is. The. Sex.
http://i29.tinypic.com/iqv6g7.png
http://i25.tinypic.com/2i71ldu.png
And CPQ
http://i30.tinypic.com/ir5pcg.png
Vernacular
2009-08-11, 07:55 PM
Nessa is back?!
Hazzy
2009-08-11, 07:58 PM
I just came after seeing TehMatt's post. ;_;
Cancambo
2009-08-11, 10:18 PM
I know I posted this SS in the level-up thread. I want to point out the CP though. I am pretty proud.
http://i30.tinypic.com/fon6h1.png
WayOfTime
2009-08-12, 07:34 AM
I know I posted this SS in the level-up thread. I want to point out the CP though. I am pretty proud.
http://i30.tinypic.com/fon6h1.png
My eyes are bleeding...(|).(|)
Worthyness
2009-08-12, 11:02 AM
WOW o_O
2k solo.... better than my TB and my cousin's DW and spearman lol.
Aran look fun =)
Teppi
2009-08-12, 11:17 AM
well, i havent been paying much attention to aran, but after looking at a few videos and skill tables, i find myself interested in them. Only one question a few various searches didnt seem to yield is about their HP gain. They have no skill to increase but looking at the pictures and stats in this thread it seems higher then most normal character base hp gain, am I correct in that?
I looked at the hp difference between the first two pictures, since they seem to have the same medal, and so any hp/mp diff from medals would be negated. From those two, it was like 47 hp a level. And just over 7 mp difference(but int gear would make that guess off). Is the hp gain per level naturally like that? Cuz I could definitely see myself playing one of these, and if the hp is good playing to a high enough level/hp washing to go to PB.
anyone have an answer?
Richiee
2009-08-15, 08:54 AM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/ZomgMesarz/MapleStory2009-08-0414-19-19-62.jpg
Yea I suck :(
Hazzy
2009-08-15, 12:12 PM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/ZomgMesarz/MapleStory2009-08-0414-19-19-62.jpg
Yea I suck :(
You just did double the damage of WhiteKnights at 6ish levels before they it 10k.
Once again... "Suck it white knights"
Takebacker
2009-08-15, 12:16 PM
You just did double the damage of WhiteKnights at 6ish levels before they it 10k.
Once again... "Suck it white knights"
Wouldn't it be quadruple, since they can't hit 10k on mobs...much less 43k total on anything? Lol.
IllegallySane
2009-08-15, 01:16 PM
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj235/ZomgMesarz/MapleStory2009-08-0414-19-19-62.jpg
Yea I suck :(
The...... fuuuuuuuuuuu
Oh how powerful Aran is.
Holypie
2009-08-21, 12:35 PM
And that's with no combo... Imagine that with like 300 combo:eek:
IsaacGS
2009-08-21, 12:48 PM
And that's with no combo... Imagine that with like 300 combo:eek:
That's with SE, which is a ridiculous increase to anyone who has criticals. plus he could have had a combo before this picture, the damage boost from a high combo doesn't disappear the instant the combo ends.
66alex66
2009-08-21, 03:00 PM
That's with SE, which is a ridiculous increase to anyone who has criticals. plus he could have had a combo before this picture, the damage boost from a high combo doesn't disappear the instant the combo ends.
still hitting 10k without critical is pretty impressive for that level
Cancambo
2009-09-02, 09:39 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/t83edg.png
I'll upgrade some more when I need it.
66alex66
2009-09-03, 05:47 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/t83edg.png
I'll upgrade some more when I need it.
wow nice ring:heart:, whats your range with all of that?
Holypie
2009-09-03, 07:20 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/t83edg.png
I'll upgrade some more when I need it.
Where do you get the ring? Is it an event?
HighOnMushrooms
2009-09-03, 07:23 PM
Its Lilin's Ring, you get it if you get your Aran to third job before December 31, 2009.
Takebacker
2009-09-03, 07:53 PM
And that's with no combo... Imagine that with like 300 combo:eek:
You can't use the attack he's using without at least 30 combo. o.o
http://i29.tinypic.com/t83edg.png
I'll upgrade some more when I need it.
The acc on that helm is niiiiice.
Cancambo
2009-09-03, 10:14 PM
Its Lilin's Ring, you get it if you get your Aran to third job before December 31, 2009.
Actually, it is just to get to level 70. But w/e.
My range is 890~2606 now, but I changed my weapon to a 98/10 Karstan that I scrolled today so I could Kent. It's not all that great, but I am not that rich at the moment.
And also, above, I bought that helmet 'cause of the accuracy. I figured getting 3 accuracy above was better than getting 2 above on STR/DEX.
SoupySoupy
2009-09-04, 04:23 AM
Actually, it is just to get to level 70. But w/e.
My range is 890~2606 now, but I changed my weapon to a 98/10 Karstan that I scrolled today so I could Kent. It's not all that great, but I am not that rich at the moment.
And also, above, I bought that helmet 'cause of the accuracy. I figured getting 3 accuracy above was better than getting 2 above on STR/DEX.
Does anyone know if you can get more than one of these if you make multiple characters?
Does anyone know if you can get more than one of these if you make multiple characters?
I think the ring is untradable. :goggle:
66alex66
2009-09-04, 06:48 PM
Does anyone know if you can get more than one of these if you make multiple characters?
you can trade it between characters on the same account via storage, not through trade though
SoupySoupy
2009-09-06, 05:27 AM
you can trade it between characters on the same account via storage, not through trade though
Yeah I knew about this, but has anyone gotten more than one on the same account, by leveling up multiple aran characters to 70 yet?
Basically I want to know if I went and bought a bunch of extra character slots and got 4 arans to level 70, would that get me 4 aran rings to max out my ring slots with :f6:
WayOfTime
2009-09-06, 06:18 AM
Yeah I knew about this, but has anyone gotten more than one on the same account, by leveling up multiple aran characters to 70 yet?
Basically I want to know if I went and bought a bunch of extra character slots and got 4 arans to level 70, would that get me 4 aran rings to max out my ring slots with :f6:
Depends if it says that it is a "One of a kind" item. If so, you would not be able to have multiple rings on one character.
Cancambo
2009-09-07, 12:25 AM
With level 1 critical I hit 21k on a combo smash at HHG. No SE. I wasn't using an attack pot and I only had 30 combo. My finger wasn't fast enough to catch it though, and I wasn't able to get it again. Critical just don't happen enough at level 1.
StormMike
2009-09-11, 06:40 PM
I dont have a SS but for my Aran I have already gotten a 109karstan but I also seem to have a 111 white mop LOL. Im selling the Mop if anyone wants to buy and how long will the karstan last me I plan to GM scroll it when I have the money I have one PA GM scroll atm.
MasPan
2009-09-11, 07:06 PM
I dont have a SS but for my Aran I have already gotten a 109karstan but I also seem to have a 111 white mop LOL. Im selling the Mop if anyone wants to buy and how long will the karstan last me I plan to GM scroll it when I have the money I have one PA GM scroll atm.
A 109 Karstan is end-game potential for a polearm, given that it's normal speed. It's equivalent to a 123 or so Zedbug.
StormMike
2009-09-11, 07:18 PM
Hmm i see. And just wondering in case i end up scrolling a Bain PA one day to like 100+. What atk Bain PA would outdamage the Karstan. And your um little stick figure guy is really annoying since it flashes every 1second.
MasPan
2009-09-11, 07:21 PM
Hmm i see. And just wondering in case i end up scrolling a Bain PA one day to like 100+. What atk Bain PA would outdamage the Karstan. And your um little stick figure guy is really annoying since it flashes every 1second.
A fast (5) speed PA adds about 12% to figure out what it would be if normal (6). Same rule applies for normal (6) to slow (8). Normal (6) to slow (7) is less of a dramatic difference.
So a 100 Bain = 112 Karstan = 125 or so Zedbug.
Holypie
2009-09-11, 07:30 PM
So a clean purple surfboard is equal to a 125 Zedbug?
MasPan
2009-09-11, 08:05 PM
So a clean purple surfboard is equal to a 125 Zedbug?
Thereabouts.
Holypie
2009-09-14, 05:35 PM
What's the attack of a clean Bain? Are they tradable?
MasPan
2009-09-14, 05:59 PM
What's the attack of a clean Bain? Are they tradable?
8x attack, and untradeable on equip.
Holypie
2009-09-14, 06:06 PM
So it's scrollable via legendary spirit then sellable? If so, that's amazing.
Takebacker
2009-09-14, 06:22 PM
Pretty much the best aran flaunting i've ever seen.
tu2UrZptT0Y
Kigaz
2009-09-14, 06:42 PM
Pretty much the best aran flaunting i've ever seen.
tu2UrZptT0Y
Gonna have to agree with you on that. :f2:
Holypie
2009-09-14, 06:45 PM
How many total hits is an attack+double+triple? Is it 6 or 3?
JoeTang
2009-09-14, 07:03 PM
How many total hits is an attack+double+triple? Is it 6 or 3?
5 I believe.
Kigaz
2009-09-14, 07:12 PM
5 I believe.
It's 6.
One from normal, two from double, three from triple.
Three separate attacks though
JoeTang
2009-09-14, 07:26 PM
It's 6.
One from normal, two from double, three from triple.
Three separate attacks though
Triple hits twice.
IllegallySane
2009-09-14, 07:40 PM
Arans are ridiculous. They can mob AND get bossing power.
kcpoYrpvhF0
They're no BM, but this is still disgusting.
NotaryPublic
2009-09-14, 07:46 PM
Sweet Jesus, Lyka took it like a bitch.
o.O
*starts hoarding Pole Arm stuff*
Takebacker
2009-09-14, 07:51 PM
Finally a clear look at tempest. W'tf did it do though...
Worthyness
2009-09-14, 07:57 PM
it like killed the whole screen with a million damage
Takebacker
2009-09-14, 07:58 PM
It didn't do anything to lyka though.
Kigaz
2009-09-14, 08:20 PM
Triple hits twice.
Then whats the point in calling it Triple :eek:
Takebacker
2009-09-14, 08:21 PM
Then whats the point in calling it Triple :eek:
Because it's the 3rd swing in a chain of swings.
JoeTang
2009-09-14, 08:24 PM
Then whats the point in calling it Triple :eek:
Why do you think it's called Double Swing when it only hits once until Third Job?
FelixTM
2009-09-14, 08:30 PM
Arans are ridiculous. They can mob AND get bossing power.
They're no BM, but this is still disgusting.
Can anyone explain to me why Lyka wasn't able to fight back AT ALL in this video? He didn't even show any signs of life. Just sat there with his eyes closed... The hell? What kind of hax do Arans have? Could they kill BF, Anego and Tengu like this too?
Takebacker
2009-09-14, 08:32 PM
Can anyone explain to me why Lyka wasn't able to fight back AT ALL in this video? He didn't even show any signs of life. Just sat there with his eyes closed... The hell? What kind of hax do Arans have? Could they kill BF, Anego and Tengu like this too?
BF no, unless they get rid of the invincibility frames.
Tengu will be tough since there's no platform to stand on for tengu so he'd be able to attack eventually. The cabinet platform is probably too far away from anego...
FelixTM
2009-09-14, 08:34 PM
BF no, unless they get rid of the invincibility frames.
Tengu will be tough since there's no platform to stand on for tengu so he'd be able to attack eventually. The cabinet platform is probably too far away from anego...
Okay, well yeah. If Nexon ever actually properly fixed BF, I mean.
I'm not understanding what makes Arans able to do this to bosses. That is what I want to know. Why did Lyka completely freeze up and not respond at all?
Takebacker
2009-09-14, 08:34 PM
Okay, well yeah. If Nexon ever actually properly fixed BF, I mean.
I'm not understanding what makes Arans able to do this to bosses. That is what I want to know. Why did Lyka completely freeze up and not respond at all?
Timing of the skills probably.
And smart KB.
Still, the Aran basically just pushed him into the corner, told him to shut up, and then just beat the living hell out of him until he died. I'm still in awe at the raw power.
FelixTM
2009-09-14, 08:38 PM
But even when you can constantly KB a monster (like with Hurricane), it doesn't stay stuck in the KB animation. It still resists you. It still fights back. Hell, most of the time, it just moves back without showing the KB animation because it's too busy doing its own crap.
The ability to completely freeze up a boss is unimaginably powerful. It's not bossing. It's DESTROYING.
Arans are ridiculous. They can mob AND get bossing power.
They're no BM, but this is still disgusting.
What the ****, man...
Aran confirmed for God tier bossing.
StormMike
2009-09-14, 10:39 PM
40 seconds I believe iss way to long.
He got up to 300 again in that time.
Does it have a cool down?? To lazy to check.
Edit just checked. 200 combos only lol. Nexon is trying to make bosses like fighting snails. At least add a 30min cooldown.
Asianese
2009-09-14, 11:39 PM
This is just crazy. I can't wait any longer for Aran to come out :cool:
Chameleonic
2009-09-15, 12:16 AM
Wow Lyka went down fast. Looks like Arans have good mp useage too, he used 3 pots?
Spadow posted on his blog that there's a lv 200 already, took 9 weeks and 4 days. lol
ximi489
2009-09-15, 12:24 AM
Thats not fair :(
Is it true that arans damage goes up as combo does?
And I'm starting to buy aran equips already is is basically like a DK? Or like whats the stats they need?
Takebacker
2009-09-15, 12:32 AM
Thats not fair :(
Is it true that arans damage goes up as combo does?
And I'm starting to buy aran equips already is is basically like a DK? Or like whats the stats they need?
They reach peak damage at 100+ combos.
¥-Striker-¥
2009-09-15, 06:54 AM
They started spamming Raikia, cornered it, shut his balls up, and beat the living hell out of it.
Lajsen
2009-09-15, 08:39 AM
I noticed in the vid, the Tempest skill froze the knights in the platform above. lol
Asianese
2009-09-16, 12:03 AM
Thats not fair :(
Is it true that arans damage goes up as combo does?
And I'm starting to buy aran equips already is is basically like a DK? Or like whats the stats they need?
correct, they use warrior equips + polearm. I would assume they would need the same stats as warriors as well.
CarrionCrow
2009-09-16, 01:01 AM
Hell that can't be right... Making a boss unable to even move or use skills? I'm gonna go ahead and hope it's just some tespian error. They can keep their arans in kms if all they do is completely beat all the other classes as well as take out bosses like the old fashion hackers did years ago.
Me no likey unbalanced crap classes.
Rigumaro
2009-09-16, 06:00 AM
Lyka doesn't move because of the constant KB from Smart Kockback. It couldn't have been frozen the whole time, because freeze doesn't last that long...
Also, when she used tempest... It only did 8k to Lyka? I thought it hit 4 times with high damage...
WayOfTime
2009-09-16, 06:13 AM
Lyka doesn't move because of the constant KB from Smart Kockback. It couldn't have been frozen the whole time, because freeze doesn't last that long...
Also, when she used tempest... It only did 8k to Lyka? I thought it hit 4 times with high damage...
I think it was only 8K because:
A) it may have been level 1, or;
B) That was before the alteration.
CarrionCrow
2009-09-16, 06:18 AM
Lyka doesn't move because of the constant KB from Smart Kockback. It couldn't have been frozen the whole time, because freeze doesn't last that long...
Also, when she used tempest... It only did 8k to Lyka? I thought it hit 4 times with high damage...
I thought smart knockback was just a skill that lowered the damage needed to KB a monster... Constant KB'ing for other classes will not produce anywhere near that result, as a NL I would not be hit once on bosses like Papulatus in that case. Of course the majority of its attacks misses anyway, but he sure gets to attack as much KB'ed or not.
Skylit
2009-09-16, 06:35 AM
Pretty much the best aran flaunting i've ever seen.
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Let me think about this... KMS dont have alot of stuff gMS has... example: no PACS no FS, no MoN's no BWG or Stormcasters... And this guy is doing a pomegranate ton of damage w/o apples gg. inb4 lolinflationofPAscrollsagear
Takebacker
2009-09-16, 08:44 AM
Let me think about this... KMS dont have alot of stuff gMS has... example: no PACS no FS, no MoN's no BWG or Stormcasters... And this guy is doing a pomegranate ton of damage w/o apples gg. inb4 lolinflationofPAscrollsagear
I think it's mostly from the SE. I saw his normal att hitting 75k...
I think it was only 8K because:
A) it may have been level 1, or;
B) That was before the alteration.
The 8k was her normal attack. Her damage didn't increase, and no damage was done to lyka. I've never seen tempest ever effect bosses, so i don't think it does anything to bosses at all.
Rigumaro
2009-09-18, 07:29 PM
The 8k was her normal attack. Her damage didn't increase, and no damage was done to lyka. I've never seen tempest ever effect bosses, so i don't think it does anything to bosses at all.
Summon a powerful tempest to freeze enemies and damage boss monsters
Lvl.1 1210% damage 10 Seconds Attacks 15 enemies Attacks 4 Times
Maybe it hit 15 guardians, so there wasn't a hit for Lyka? Because if it's not this, I don't know what could it be...
Takebacker
2009-09-18, 07:34 PM
Summon a powerful tempest to freeze enemies and damage boss monsters
Lvl.1 1210% damage 10 Seconds Attacks 15 enemies Attacks 4 Times
Maybe it hit 15 guardians, so there wasn't a hit for Lyka? Because if it's not this, I don't know what could it be...
Never trust in game descriptions. -Points to meso guard, HH, etc etc-
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Therefore, i conclude that tempest doesn't affect bosses.
Wow. Aran continues to impress me with each video I watch.
Cancambo
2009-09-18, 07:46 PM
Look at the HP bar when she uses Tempest on Lyka. You don't really see any damage above Lyka's head but his HP bar loses a large chunk at the moment she uses the skill.
Takebacker
2009-09-18, 08:11 PM
Look at the HP bar when she uses Tempest on Lyka. You don't really see any damage above Lyka's head but his HP bar loses a large chunk at the moment she uses the skill.
I can't tell if i should be impressed or not. I would prefer to SEE the damage instead of having to look at a chunk fly off an HP bar.
IllegallySane
2009-09-19, 01:30 AM
Never trust in game descriptions. -Points to meso guard, HH, etc etc-
J8IEeLy73CM
Therefore, i conclude that tempest doesn't affect bosses.
Heh, oh WOW. Final Toss looks hell of a much more useful skill than I thought. You can fecking JUGGLE the monsters. There's a lot of potential right there.
Takebacker
2009-09-19, 09:31 AM
Hooray for basil bringing me this little gem.
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God tier bossing and training, anyone?
CarrionCrow
2009-09-19, 09:31 AM
I do not buy the Lyka fight, the damage at oblivion was just :goggle:. The skele part of the last vid I could believe though, good enough damage without owning every single class that came before Aran. If they'll be as powerful as shown in the oblivion vid paired with GMS' superior gear, Most of us will be redundant. Going to the respective class chief on Victoria getting stripped of our skills and to see a special smega saying " You, sir, are a disgrace. You are fired without benefits".
Takebacker
2009-09-19, 09:39 AM
The skele part of the last vid I could believe though, good enough damage without owning every single class that came before Aran.
You mean the trailer? That wasn't shown for that...and it was a GM in a test server anyway. Probably using a clean maple polearm.
Reflexx
2009-09-19, 09:54 AM
Wonder why non of the 7x, 8x arans in KMS arent posting, I've seen some sick damage
F'uck, that's pure hax. I love this class. The videos only get better.
Takebacker
2009-09-19, 11:24 AM
F'uck, that's pure hax. I love this class. The videos only get better.
Apparently she has 2 7 att pendants, a 7 att belt, and a 13 att WG though.
Apparently she has 2 7 att pendants, a 7 att belt, and a 13 att WG though.
I can only imagine how broken would this be in GMS.
SoupySoupy
2009-09-20, 01:11 PM
She also has a 7 attack nose.
Eh, all these Aran videos seem star pretty well funded people. The equips she has in the video up there put her above even a 'decent' GMS player. Being about equal to 18 atk gloves, 10 PAC, 6 FS, 10 MoN and then a fair amount of extra STR from those accessories. And most GMSers use warrior elixers, not ciders (I think that's the 20 attack CS buff there isn't it?).
It's not nearly as hard to get yourself a setup like that GMS as it would be for something comparable in KMS, granted, but it's not like every Aran out there is going to be doing that kind of damage.
Cancambo
2009-09-20, 09:19 PM
On my last swing
http://i35.tinypic.com/156csas.png
Damn dude, nice dmg! That's another vote for Aran.
MasPan
2009-09-20, 09:26 PM
Damn dude, nice dmg! That's another vote for Aran.
And another slash in my wrist when they come out, another million mesos per scroll in inflation...
Takebacker
2009-09-20, 09:27 PM
On my last swing
http://i35.tinypic.com/156csas.png
THE F'UCK IS THIS S'HIT.
Aran in GMS please.
Worthyness
2009-09-20, 09:42 PM
lagg delete post please :D
Worthyness
2009-09-20, 09:43 PM
=( 27k at 8x? great... this is gonna be a little hard to compete with in GMS. That 27k will be something in the 50k's or more...
How do you get 27k at level 8x? D:
I was just getting used to my 33k's on the last hit of barrage =(
Pirate version plz
IllegallySane
2009-09-20, 09:46 PM
=( 27k at 8x? great... this is gonna be a little hard to compete with in GMS. That 27k will be something in the 50k's or more...
How do you get 27k at level 8x? D:
I was just getting used to my 33k's on the last hit of barrage =(
Pirate version plz
To keep this balanced, they need to revamp the older classes so Aran are, while still stronger, the other classes also gain a level in sheer power/awesomeness. D:<
MasPan
2009-09-20, 09:49 PM
To keep this balanced, they need to revamp the older classes so Aran are, while still stronger, the other classes also gain a level in sheer power/awesomeness. D:<
Or just nerf Arans. Which should've been done in the first place.
Takebacker
2009-09-20, 09:49 PM
To keep this balanced, they need to revamp the older classes so Aran are, while still stronger, the other classes also gain a level in sheer power/awesomeness. D:<
They really do. I was thinking about how easily out DPSed i am by this, and cried a little.
L> skill power update for adventurers.
@mas: Nerfing a class < buffing everyone else up.
MasPan
2009-09-20, 09:57 PM
They really do. I was thinking about how easily out DPSed i am by this, and cried a little.
L> skill power update for adventurers.
Power up and rebalance all old classes (can't give exact same boost to all or natural differences will cause imbalance) or weaken 1 class that is substantially overpowered? For that matter, nerf ultimates while you're at it...
Cancambo
2009-09-20, 09:57 PM
=( 27k at 8x? great... this is gonna be a little hard to compete with in GMS. That 27k will be something in the 50k's or more...
How do you get 27k at level 8x? D:
I was just getting used to my 33k's on the last hit of barrage =(
Pirate version plz
I just am well funded for KMS. I don't have a lot of stuff a lot of Koreans have though (attack belt, chaos pendant with atatck [well, I had one but I ruined it with a second chaos], and a few other stuff). Also, I have snow charge (level 12) which adds a decent amount of damage. The largest chunk of that though comes from critical.
Anyways, combo peril level 1:
http://i34.tinypic.com/jahshg.png
Takebacker
2009-09-20, 10:00 PM
Power up and rebalance all old classes (can't give exact same boost to all or natural differences will cause imbalance) or weaken 1 class that is substantially overpowered? For that matter, nerf ultimates while you're at it...
Seeing how impossible PB is with a 1 hr timer, and knowing that the black mage will be even more ridiculous, i'm all for a strengthening patch for adventurers.
Seeing how impossible PB is with a 1 hr timer, and knowing that the black mage will be even more ridiculous, i'm all for a strengthening patch for adventurers.
WE DO NOT NEED TO BE STRONGER. Make the boss less broken.
MasPan
2009-09-20, 10:31 PM
Seeing how impossible PB is with a 1 hr timer, and knowing that the black mage will be even more ridiculous, i'm all for a strengthening patch for adventurers.
Give it a 2hour limit (very reasonable) or lower HP amounts per part by half (essentially the same thing, it cuts run time down by half). Black Mage doesn't have to be a damage wall, if done creatively it can be very challenging without requiring massive power boosts. There are selective things I'd like to see (reducing stabPA/slashSpear penalties, reducing ultimate damage (or adding a mandatory cooldown when not using infinity) and increasing Para/CL damage) to balance classes based on the current maps we have, but a power boost to put all classes on par with Arans is not necessary. Aran should not be this strong to begin with. Cygnus can get away with being strong because of their low level cap, but Aran can reach 200, so there is no need for them to be OP.
Takebacker
2009-09-20, 10:35 PM
WE DO NOT NEED TO BE STRONGER. Make the boss less broken.
The boss isn't broken. The 1 hr limit is just too short. All i'm doing is assuming the timer will stay the same, in which case, WE NEED MORE POWER TO KILL IT.
@ above: Arans aren't even overpowered because their damage is high. They're only overpowered because they do this much damage on mobs of 12. If they did this much on 1 mob, i wouldn't even touch them. It's because they can hit damage that rivals current classes on a single target with the ability to hit the same damage *12 that makes them overpowered.
MasPan
2009-09-20, 10:40 PM
The boss isn't broken. The 1 hr limit is just too short. All i'm doing is assuming the timer will stay the same, in which case, WE NEED MORE POWER TO KILL IT.
@ above: Arans aren't even overpowered because their damage is high. They're only overpowered because they do this much damage on mobs of 12. If they did this much on 1 mob, i wouldn't even touch them. It's because they can hit damage that rivals current classes on a single target with the ability to hit the same damage *12 that makes them overpowered.
Outlaws were considered strong for quickly hitting 10-14k in their 90s on a single target. Arans can do more than double this just as quickly and on multiples. Even single target they are OP'd.
Takebacker
2009-09-20, 10:45 PM
Ok nevermind. I agree, aran's are overpowered as f'uck.
Reflexx
2009-09-21, 02:51 AM
Arans aren't overpowered lol, that ridiculous amount of damage matt just did requires 70 or 100 combo points, thats 70 or 100 hits(or less depending on how many mobs he is hitting). By the time he swings enough to use combo peril an outlaw with burstfire + octo are going to be doing a ridiculous amount of damage, same with any other adventurers. Sure Arans are strong, maybe slightly beating other classes in terms of mob damage but ridiculously overpowered? don think so.
CarrionCrow
2009-09-21, 03:52 AM
Arans aren't overpowered lol, that ridiculous amount of damage matt just did requires 70 or 100 combo points, thats 70 or 100 hits(or less depending on how many mobs he is hitting). By the time he swings enough to use combo peril an outlaw with burstfire + octo are going to be doing a ridiculous amount of damage, same with any other adventurers. Sure Arans are strong, maybe slightly beating other classes in terms of mob damage but ridiculously overpowered? don think so.
Hmm, so what would the damage be before reaching 70-100 hits then? I kind of doubt an outlaw the same level would come close if the damage is even a third of that, but I'll admit I know little about the class so far. A 4th job Aran looks like it will wipe the floor with a Corsair, or any other 4th job class, though.
MasPan
2009-09-21, 04:13 AM
Hmm, so what would the damage be before reaching 70-100 hits then? I kind of doubt an outlaw the same level would come close if the damage is even a third of that, but I'll admit I know little about the class so far. A 4th job Aran looks like it will wipe the floor with a Corsair, or any other 4th job class, though.
To note: consistent, rapid 50k+ hits on a boss without gMS gear with a warrior is pretty nice.
Cancambo
2009-09-21, 07:45 AM
Terry, it takes like 30 seconds (at most) to charge up that combo AND it is super easy to keep that combo up.
Reflexx
2009-09-21, 08:05 AM
Yeah i know it doesnt take that long to get combos up, but I'm just saying Arans aren't crazy overpowered like everyone thinks they are. Like I can get off 30 burst fires in 30 seconds doing about 10k-16k damage per burstfire. I think the area where arans shine is the ability to do that much damage to 12 mobs.
Cancambo
2009-09-21, 08:08 AM
Yeah i know it doesnt take that long to get combos up, but I'm just saying Arans aren't crazy overpowered like everyone thinks they are. Like I can get off 30 burst fires in 30 seconds doing about 10k-16k damage per burstfire. I think the area where arans shine is the ability to do that much damage to 12 mobs.
But I can still do 15-20k in three swings with 0 combo. And even 10 combos really boosts the damage.
Reflexx
2009-09-21, 10:08 AM
DAMMIT MATT STOP POOPIN ON ME.
I LOVE ME OUTLAW :f4:
CarrionCrow
2009-09-21, 10:50 AM
DAMMIT MATT STOP POOPIN ON ME.
I LOVE ME OUTLAW :f4:
And I'm pretty fond of my NL, that does not alter the fact that an overpowered class is an overpowered class.
I also resent the fact that my wife, as a pretty dang good PoleDrK, will be not only outclassed, but also have to see her gear skyrocket to NL levels.
I'd like to see this nerfed, and that wont happen if we underestimate it or make incorrect comparisons between adventurers and the aran abomination.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 11:24 AM
hm, I think theres a catch somewhere here, or something not intended. Aran's wouldnt simply be new class that overpowers even the top tier bosses, it's just a bad move in general. I'll just hold onto my 104 maple karstan none the less.
However a class who can womp bosses and epic mob training seems misbalanced. Shadowers and buccs are the best mobbers in the game (discluding mages) but they are mediocre at bosses. So there has to be SOMETHING besides stacking combo's that would be a disadvantage equilavent to this power.
Shady
2009-09-21, 11:39 AM
I want more screenshots (http://www.cnet.com/i/bto/20080908/Thread-Offtopic-Derailed.jpg)
Takebacker
2009-09-21, 11:59 AM
hm, I think theres a catch somewhere here, or something not intended. Aran's wouldnt simply be new class that overpowers even the top tier bosses, it's just a bad move in general. I'll just hold onto my 104 maple karstan none the less.
However a class who can womp bosses and epic mob training seems misbalanced. Shadowers and buccs are the best mobbers in the game (discluding mages) but they are mediocre at bosses. So there has to be SOMETHING besides stacking combo's that would be a disadvantage equilavent to this power.
Excluding mages, paladins are better mobbers than buccs and shads are. Buccs and shads are the mediocre at everything class.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 12:10 PM
Excluding mages, paladins are better mobbers than buccs and shads are. Buccs and shads are the mediocre at everything class.
Shadowers excel in training, to my understanding even with TT paladins still can't catch up to the 40% boost in taunt. Even then I dont think HH+Rushing map (if that's what you are implying) is better than Bstep and whatever mobbing skills Bucc's use.
CarrionCrow
2009-09-21, 12:52 PM
Shadowers excel in training, to my understanding even with TT paladins still can't catch up to the 40% boost in taunt. Even then I dont think HH+Rushing map (if that's what you are implying) is better than Bstep and whatever mobbing skills Bucc's use.
Dragon strike would be the Bucc mobbing skill, no? And for Paladins, their main attack is a single target one (blast) and I'm not really sure how good the hammer is for grinding, but it sure ain't comparable to ultimates.
Takebacker
2009-09-21, 12:54 PM
Shadowers excel in training, to my understanding even with TT paladins still can't catch up to the 40% boost in taunt. Even then I dont think HH+Rushing map (if that's what you are implying) is better than Bstep and whatever mobbing skills Bucc's use.
Them excelling in training does not imply that they excel in mobbing. That logic would then say that they excel in mobbing because of taunt, which is retarded.
By saying paladins are better in mobs i was implying both HH + rush and ACB. Even with my range i can't keep up with a paladin that can do 50ks on holy weak, and similar amounts on other elementally weak mobs.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 01:33 PM
Them excelling in training does not imply that they excel in mobbing. That logic would then say that they excel in mobbing because of taunt, which is retarded.
By saying paladins are better in mobs i was implying both HH + rush and ACB. Even with my range i can't keep up with a paladin that can do 50ks on holy weak, and similar amounts on other elementally weak mobs.
Actually, Taunt being a mob skill I would consider them supperior in mobbing. Why? They get more experience and all the attacks a shadower uses in training is generally a mob skill. When it gets down to it, its who can kill efficiently and gain the most amount of experience, which a shadower would easily run any class except mage, who they could honestly compete against, in the dirt.
Now if you're talking about a ks war between these classes thats an entirely different topic.
Takebacker
2009-09-21, 02:03 PM
Actually, Taunt being a mob skill I would consider them supperior in mobbing. Why? They get more experience and all the attacks a shadower uses in training is generally a mob skill. When it gets down to it, its who can kill efficiently and gain the most amount of experience, which a shadower would easily run any class except mage, who they could honestly compete against, in the dirt.
Now if you're talking about a ks war between these classes thats an entirely different topic.
When people say "who can kill a mob faster", they don't give a f'uck about exp, because more exp =/= faster killing. It just means more exp.
I didn't say "paladins get more exp than buccs and shads" i said "paladins kill mobs faster than buccs and shads". There's a difference between the two statements, please learn it.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 02:32 PM
When people say "who can kill a mob faster", they don't give a f'uck about exp, because more exp =/= faster killing. It just means more exp.
I didn't say "paladins get more exp than buccs and shads" i said "paladins kill mobs faster than buccs and shads". There's a difference between the two statements, please learn it.
I still say shadowers at the very least considering when you HH the range of rush isn't gurranteed to hit 6+ monsters at once. Bstep has the same range as L7, also can be executed while jumping.
Please take the attitude out of your posts. It's unnecessary o.O
Takebacker
2009-09-21, 02:37 PM
I still say shadowers at the very least considering when you HH the range of rush isn't gurranteed to hit 6+ monsters at once. Bstep has the same range as L7, also can be executed while jumping.
Please take the attitude out of your posts. It's unnecessary o.O
I don't see why the range matters that much. When you're HH + rushing, you're always 2hkoing a max of 15 monsters at once. Shadowers do what? 4hko 4 mobs at a time? Should be pretty obvious that paladins will thus circle a map much faster than a shadower. (i'm using oblivion 4 as an example by the way)
Failing to see that exp gain has nothing to do with mob killing speed in the case of shadowers pisses me off.
Also, we're getting way off topic.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 02:53 PM
I don't see why the range matters that much. When you're HH + rushing, you're always 2hkoing a max of 15 monsters at once. Shadowers do what? 4hko 4 mobs at a time? Should be pretty obvious that paladins will thus circle a map much faster than a shadower. (i'm using oblivion 4 as an example by the way)
Failing to see that exp gain has nothing to do with mob killing speed in the case of shadowers pisses me off.
Also, we're getting way off topic.
I dont think you have a clear grasp on the exp rate for skele vs OB4 which I believe was proven slightly slower than skelegons, even with HH spamming. You also don't have a clear understanding of rush or the fact shadowers Bstep, the levels were talking about (15x) will probably one hit skelegons. You don't have to be rude if you disagree with someone.
on topic: aran's are broken, they better be nerfed.
MasPan
2009-09-21, 02:54 PM
I dont think you have a clear grasp on the exp rate for skele vs OB4 which I believe was proven slightly slower than skelegons, even with HH spamming. You also don't have a clear understanding of rush or the fact shadowers Bstep, the levels were talking about (15x) will probably one hit skelegons. You don't have to be rude if you disagree with someone.
on topic: aran's are broken, they better be nerfed.
OB4 is the fastest solo training spot for non-mages, period. Skeles is only faster with an ult spammer.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 02:55 PM
OB4 is the fastest solo training spot for non-mages, period. Skeles is only faster with an ult spammer.
If shadowers are 4 hitting like he says then I'm afraid you're wrong.
JoeTang
2009-09-21, 03:02 PM
Bstep has the same range as L7
lolno.
the fact shadowers Bstep, the levels were talking about (15x) will probably one hit skelegons.
LOLNO.
MasPan
2009-09-21, 03:03 PM
If shadowers are 4 hitting like he says then I'm afraid you're wrong.
2hitting skeles vice 4hitting Chief Oblivion Guardians, I'm afraid YOU'RE wrong. Oblivion 4 is much faster, has less climbing, and has teleports to speed you around the map. Skeles has lots of climbing, very low spawn density, and monsters that are killed way too quickly.
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 03:07 PM
lolno.
Er isn't Keen eyes 300% as is Bstep?
2hitting skeles vice 4hitting Chief Oblivion Guardians, I'm afraid YOU'RE wrong. Oblivion 4 is much faster, has less climbing, and has teleports to speed you around the map. Skeles has lots of climbing, very low spawn density, and monsters that are killed way too quickly.
Provide me a shadower with experience with this because I find that awfully hard to believe. B step has a 1 second delay (1.6ish) and you could fit a BOT in there. 4 Bs' per mob PLUS taunting would definatly do more harm than good.
JoeTang
2009-09-21, 03:08 PM
Er isn't Keen eyes 300% as is Bstep?
Keen Eyed L7 is 400%
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 03:18 PM
Keen Eyed L7 is 400%
lol silly me forgot to factor in the actual L7. And exclude the one hit thing, I ment to say 2 hit.
Star Drake
2009-09-21, 03:18 PM
Are the Aran skills easy to chain or do they require keyboard-smashing like the dojo?
KhainiWest
2009-09-21, 03:25 PM
Are the Aran skills easy to chain or do they require keyboard-smashing like the dojo?
From what I see they are easier to execute. You also have to remember that a lot of players mess up the dojo crap because they have a skill/potion on the control key.
Cancambo
2009-09-21, 04:46 PM
Are the Aran skills easy to chain or do they require keyboard-smashing like the dojo?
It is a pretty fluid system.
Takebacker
2009-09-21, 06:11 PM
I dont think you have a clear grasp on the exp rate for skele vs OB4 which I believe was proven slightly slower than skelegons, even with HH spamming. You also don't have a clear understanding of rush or the fact shadowers Bstep, the levels were talking about (15x) will probably one hit skelegons. You don't have to be rude if you disagree with someone.
on topic: aran's are broken, they better be nerfed.
I believe the following:
1) That i actually train at O4 because i get more exp/money there.
2) That buccs and shadowers have very comparable killing speeds.
3) That you're misinformed. O4 is faster than solo skeles for any melee class.
No i don't have to be rude if i disagree, but i can be rude if the person i'm arguing against doesn't fully understand parts of the argument at hand.
Skylit
2009-09-21, 07:55 PM
Excluding mages, paladins are better mobbers than buccs and shads are. Buccs and shads are the mediocre at everything class.
uh no, Shadower are the 2nd best exp gainers next to mages. I average 40m an hour on 2x with 1 hitting bishop+ max taunt (I could honestly gain more if I didn't talk) Explain to me how that is mediocre?
Reflexx
2009-09-22, 04:49 AM
wohoo way to be off topic! FUUCK ARANS :tongue:
Takebacker
2009-09-22, 07:11 AM
uh no, Shadower are the 2nd best exp gainers next to mages. I average 40m an hour on 2x with 1 hitting bishop+ max taunt (I could honestly gain more if I didn't talk) Explain to me how that is mediocre?
1) Please read the last page. Exp gain =/= strong mobbing.
2) You're still not as fast as mages, which makes you mediocre.
KhainiWest
2009-09-22, 08:58 AM
1) Please read the last page. Exp gain =/= strong mobbing.
2) You're still not as fast as mages, which makes you mediocre.
Mediocre=/=One of the best. Mediocre would be buccaneers training speed. It's average.
I understand what you're saying but were still more efficient with our skills. We may only kill 4/6 at a time, versus how many are on a platform that rush's range can hit, which you being so experienced could tell me I assume?
You should learn to dabate maturely.
On topic: I think it's just another overhyped class that will have its negativities show through by the GMS players.
Takebacker
2009-09-22, 09:44 AM
Mediocre=/=One of the best. Mediocre would be buccaneers training speed. It's average.
I understand what you're saying but were still more efficient with our skills. We may only kill 4/6 at a time, versus how many are on a platform that rush's range can hit, which you being so experienced could tell me I assume?
You should learn to dabate maturely.
On topic: I think it's just another overhyped class that will have its negativities show through by the GMS players.
Efficiency is the trademark of the thief class, i already know that from looking at alchemist/taunt. That's still not what i'm saying.
If you kill 10 mobs for 20k exp, and i kill 20 mobs for 10k exp, who's the better mobber?
SoupySoupy
2009-09-22, 10:04 AM
On topic: I think it's just another overhyped class that will have its negativities show through by the GMS players.
I'm leaning towards that too, how have Aran gear/ pole arm prices been in KMS lately?
If they're as overpowered as people are saying they are, the gear should still be pretty damn highly priced, no?
Reflexx
2009-09-22, 10:32 AM
its definately gone up a bit, but its not ridiculous.
Skylit
2009-09-22, 11:09 AM
1) Please read the last page. Exp gain =/= strong mobbing.
2) You're still not as fast as mages, which makes you mediocre.
According to you 4/5 maplestory classes are mediocre.
Efficiency is the trademark of the thief class, i already know that from looking at alchemist/taunt. That's still not what i'm saying.
If you kill 10 mobs for 20k exp, and i kill 20 mobs for 10k exp, who's the better mobber?
If you're refering to yourself as a bishop, what are you trying to prove?
and lol 20 mobs.. is that even possible for a bishop? I thought max is 15.
No i don't have to be rude if i disagree, but i can be rude if the person i'm arguing against doesn't fully understand parts of the argument at hand.
Being rude to an ignorant person for his ignorace is a tad highbrow, isn't it? It's a choice to be rude. If he doesn't get the argument, that's his problem and not yours. Let it go.
Takebacker
2009-09-22, 11:12 AM
According to you 4/5 maplestory classes are mediocre.
Yes.
If you're refering to yourself as a bishop, what are you trying to prove?
and lol 20 mobs.. is that even possible for a bishop? I thought max is 15.
The argument is against paladins.
Still not the point. Whether it's 15 or 20 you're still killing faster than the other guy.
Skylit
2009-09-22, 11:32 AM
nvm
SoupySoupy
2009-09-22, 11:47 AM
its definately gone up a bit, but its not ridiculous.
Ah thanks. So I guess claw scrolls and other such things still hold the top spots?
Ergh, I don't have any desire to play KMS, but I'd love to be able to just browse the FM now and again T_T
I'll get around to making an account one day :goggle:
The argument is against paladins.
Still not the point. Whether it's 15 or 20 you're still killing faster than the other guy.
What the hell do you have against us? :f6:
Takebacker
2009-09-22, 02:49 PM
What the hell do you have against us? :f6:
Huh? How is saying that paladins are better mob killers offensive?
Being rude to an ignorant person for his ignorace is a tad highbrow, isn't it? It's a choice to be rude. If he doesn't get the argument, that's his problem and not yours. Let it go.
Well i tried to find a good enough reason to explain being rude without just outright saying that i dislike vindictive as a person, but i guess now it doesn't matter.
Zephyr
2009-09-22, 05:39 PM
So.... arans... combos... yeah >_>;
I'm already getting some nice polearms ready just in case.
Cancambo
2009-09-24, 06:44 PM
Stats/Equips/Skills:
http://i38.tinypic.com/xbiyvs.png
Damage:
Full swing, 3rd swing (Hit 33k before, but keep missing a SS):
http://i37.tinypic.com/2q868tt.png
Combo peril level 1:
http://i38.tinypic.com/8xlftc.png
ItachiPower
2009-09-24, 06:47 PM
Is that medal from the Combo Medals?
Cancambo
2009-09-24, 06:59 PM
Is that medal from the Combo Medals?
Yes. It is the 500 combo medal.
Stereo
2009-09-26, 07:00 PM
Damn, so much str-gear in KMS...
If my DK had Blessing it'd have the same w.atk as you, but with nearly 60 less str. :/ I do have higher acc but not enough to compensate for that. I guess when I make an Aran we'll get the new blessing system, and I can go dexless, but there's still ~30 str difference in your gear and mine >_>
Does remind me, I need a new shoe now that maker is out.
Cancambo
2009-09-26, 08:04 PM
Damn, so much str-gear in KMS...
If my DK had Blessing it'd have the same w.atk as you, but with nearly 60 less str. :/ I do have higher acc but not enough to compensate for that. I guess when I make an Aran we'll get the new blessing system, and I can go dexless, but there's still ~30 str difference in your gear and mine >_>
Does remind me, I need a new shoe now that maker is out.
I think it is mostly because I scrolled my overall for STR. Other than that, I think you can get all the other stuff we have, or you will get it i.e. the ring/medal. You might even have overall STR scrolls, idk.
Asianese
2009-09-26, 08:04 PM
Yes. It is the 500 combo medal.
Hmm, is getting 500 combo that difficult? For a +3 to every stat, it seems easier to get than the current medals we have in GMS, and also better.
TKWizard
2009-09-26, 08:10 PM
You can easily get that medal as early as lv 16..
Lv 10 polearm and enough Accuracy at ZM can net you that medal in no time.
Too bad its not obtainable in KMS anymore.
Stereo
2009-09-26, 09:07 PM
I think it is mostly because I scrolled my overall for STR.
Yeah that's a part of it, I'm using a crappy 8/17 overall to equip my cape (requires 85 dex). Gonna change it out for top+bottom at level 100, but that doesn't cover it. It's the medal/necklace/belt/ring, and your shoes are better. I think between those items my DK gets 4 str and you get 20. The ring/medal may come to GMS later, and you have chaos'd belt/pendant going on which is expensive in global. I've just been lazy about my shoe, really, I have the resources to get a 7-8 str one but I didn't think about it.
Cancambo
2009-09-26, 10:06 PM
Yeah that's a part of it, I'm using a crappy 8/17 overall to equip my cape (requires 85 dex). Gonna change it out for top+bottom at level 100, but that doesn't cover it. It's the medal/necklace/belt/ring, and your shoes are better. I think between those items my DK gets 4 str and you get 20. The ring/medal may come to GMS later, and you have chaos'd belt/pendant going on which is expensive in global. I've just been lazy about my shoe, really, I have the resources to get a 7-8 str one but I didn't think about it.
The belt is 100% scrolled.
Shinryuji
2009-09-26, 10:23 PM
The beslt is 100% scrolled.
how much do they cost O.o?
Stereo
2009-09-26, 11:34 PM
The beslt is 100% scrolled.
Oh right, forgot about those, since GMS in its infinite wisdom did not include them with the Dojo. Would probably cost me 100m a pop for a 4 str belt, and I have 2 warriors..
Cancambo
2009-09-27, 01:28 AM
The 100% scrolls are cheap. 100k~1m. They don't come from dojo though, they came from a Goldrich event. I am not sure if they were attainable any other way.
Moonlapse
2009-10-26, 12:36 AM
Excluding mages, paladins are better mobbers than buccs and shads are. Buccs and shads are the mediocre at everything class.
That's why I play a bucc. Jack of all trades, master of none :glitter:. Seeing this thread I will at least try out Arans, if nothing other than for that ring.
Jester
2009-10-26, 12:38 AM
COPYPASTEFROMLEVELUPLOL
http://i36.tinypic.com/214886u.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/fmpdl1.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/t4thd3.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/6srhoz.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/xcu8wl.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/wlq2w8.jpg
Done within 2hours of 2x.
Pantaloon
2009-10-27, 04:09 PM
COPYPASTEFROMLEVELUPLOL
http://i36.tinypic.com/214886u.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/fmpdl1.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/t4thd3.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/6srhoz.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/xcu8wl.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/wlq2w8.jpg
Done within 2hours of 2x.
Can I get my PA back yet?
No DD:
I'm way to far from having enough accuracy without it to kent.
Give me about 2 more weeks. :C
I only train on the weekends mostly.
Pantaloon
2009-10-28, 02:43 AM
No DD:
I'm way to far from having enough accuracy without it to kent.
Give me about 2 more weeks. :C
I only train on the weekends mostly.
hm okay.
but as soon as my aran is 64, i'd like my PA back though.
Pantaloon
2009-10-28, 05:01 PM
thanks bubz
KarStealer
2009-11-17, 09:32 PM
I'm jumping out of my seat today, Got an aran to level 19 on new server in MSEA, and within about three hours of release, this.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3473/maple0006e.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/i/maple0006e.jpg/)
I LOVE the medal, and i think im one of the first ten on server to get it, can't be sure. Never seen anyone else with it though.
DeanNim
2009-11-23, 12:35 AM
since this thread is dead anyways..
http://i49.tinypic.com/28wgz2q.jpg
I should have maxed smash by level 45. Then ill max triple swing.
Satellite
2009-11-23, 12:20 PM
The 100% scrolls are cheap. 100k~1m. They don't come from dojo though, they came from a Goldrich event. I am not sure if they were attainable any other way.
Atleast for 100% belt scrolls, those were added to Gach. other than 100% belt scrolls, I dont know.
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-23, 01:05 PM
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6811/maple0019.png
2x Event + 2x Exp Card + 1.2x IP Bonus. :D
Totally unfunded. All eqs clean.
66alex66
2009-11-23, 05:22 PM
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6811/maple0019.png
2x Event + 2x Exp Card + 1.2x IP Bonus. :D
Totally unfunded. All eqs clean.
thought it was GMS for a second, nice exp
PS: shouldn't this thread be stickied?
Hazzy
2009-11-23, 05:32 PM
IP Bonus
What? Bonus for your IP...?
Takebacker
2009-11-23, 06:02 PM
What? Bonus for your IP...?
The internet cafe thing gives you 1.2x exp. AKA IP bonus.
Amphigory
2009-11-23, 07:05 PM
When did MSEA get NLC?
Like, a year ago? Long time. Anyways, add wolf spiders to the list of places arans can do near-potlessly due to no magic attack :blush:
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-23, 07:23 PM
Like, a year ago? Long time. Anyways, add wolf spiders to the list of places arans can do near-potlessly due to no magic attack :blush:
yup it's a really good place for aran since they have no magic attack and Body Pressure will seal their body damage. so, no damage at all.
@Hazzy : http://maple.playpark.net/cash_shop/functional_items/
it's the premium service coupon. give you extra exp, drop rate and mesos.
Amphigory
2009-11-23, 07:28 PM
yup it's a really good place for aran since they have no magic attack and Body Pressure will seal their body damage. so, no damage at all.
@Hazzy : http://maple.playpark.net/cash_shop/functional_items/
it's the premium service coupon. give you extra exp, drop rate and mesos.
So far I've seen that Duals, WS, regular Birks, and to some extent Typhons will be pot free.
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-24, 08:39 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6505/maple0022gm.jpg
23,100 exp per monster. Original monster exp : 2500.
Hazzy
2009-11-24, 08:41 PM
9.24x Exp... wat?
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-24, 09:41 PM
i could get double that amount if i train from 8pm ~ 10pm since there's another 2x event that will stack.
Amphigory
2009-11-24, 10:37 PM
How are you getting the extra? Here in GMS we only get up to 4x :f4:
Also, Galloperas look like the s'hit, since you can hit both panels at once, and their magic attack is uber low.
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-24, 11:09 PM
2x Izar Event + 2x Exp Card + 1.5x Holy Symbol + 1.2x Premium Bonus + 1.8x Welcome Back Ring + 10% Party Bonus Exp.
eSW (entrance Spooky World) is like the best map ever. Gallopera Hp/Exp ratio is insane + the high spawn rate + the low damage. And with the current Exp Formula, killer (me) get the most exp. :D
Well shit, no wonder that guy is like 170 already.
Dyxanije
2009-11-25, 12:13 AM
23,100 exp per monster.
That amount of experience is sickening.
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-25, 01:01 AM
Well pomegranate, no wonder that guy is like 170 already.
WRONG. he's from bootes and they dont get this kind of bonuses. Only new world can. :D
Ryanide
2009-11-25, 01:23 AM
WRONG. he's from bootes and they dont get this kind of bonuses. Only new world can. :D
Where did you train from 19+ lol
I gave up really early, after getting my 500 combo medal at lvl 16 `-`
I was like WTF WOAH 494 COMBOS and the spawn died. Then one respawned in time to continue the combo
Moonlapse
2009-11-25, 01:54 AM
Soo we can conclude that Aran train really fast?
CrazyLazy
2009-11-25, 03:54 PM
I love that there's a pop-up that shows what skill you can use at a certain combo. Very nice.
Amphigory
2009-11-25, 04:14 PM
Soo we can conclude that Aran train really fast?
In 3rd job, definitely.
This girl gets something like 2% in two minutes and 30 seconds, which is like... 48%/hr? At 9x's, that's pretty damn broken for a non-cygnus. I wonder what the solo exp rates are for Himes and Galloperas. I know they're godly but I want to know some real numbers here :f5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuowGd-6kuY&feature=related
In case I'm borked, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuowGd-6kuY&feature=related is the url for the video I'm referring to.
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-25, 07:46 PM
I lvl up every 20min++. :x
currently lvl 103.
Granada
2009-11-26, 10:07 AM
I lvl up every 20min++. :x
currently lvl 103.
Ok thats just broken :glitter:
Chameleonic
2009-11-26, 10:24 AM
I lvl up every 20min++. :x
currently lvl 103.
How? 3x cards, family 2x, party exp...what?! Where are you training?
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-26, 10:26 AM
Gallopera?
2x Event + 2x Event + 2x Card + 1.5x HS + 1.2x Premium Bonus + 1.8x Welcome Back Ring + 10% Party Bonus.
Chameleonic
2009-11-26, 10:40 AM
lol thats insane.
You have 2x Event twice?
ScherzoDeLuce
2009-11-26, 10:46 AM
yep, two 2x event that stack with each other. but only in new world (Izar).
WRONG. he's from bootes and they dont get this kind of bonuses. Only new world can. :D
Still, I bet he's still getting like constant 8x or something almost as ridiculous. I was playing in Izar and I only got 2x. Was it just a time limited 4x?
Cancambo
2009-11-27, 04:50 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/103splj.png
How does all this compare to GMS?
http://i47.tinypic.com/103splj.png
How does all this compare to GMS?
Shouldn't you upgrade your belt?
StormMike
2009-11-27, 04:58 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/103splj.png
How does all this compare to GMS?
Im not sure if Aran damage range formula is the same im assuming yes. If so your stronger then most PA dark on basil. And those are pretty nice equips maybe upgrade the WG. And isnt chaos cheap in KMS if so go chaos a Pac I believe you guys have pacs there or something like that.
Cancambo
2009-11-27, 05:02 PM
Shouldn't you upgrade your belt?
I want to upgrade my belt to an attack belt after I upgrade my PA. It will cost me like 350m for a 118+ surfboard and 200m+ for a 5 attack belt.
Im not sure if Aran damage range formula is the same im assuming yes. If so your stronger then most PA dark on basil. And those are pretty nice equips maybe upgrade the WG. And isnt chaos cheap in KMS if so go chaos a Pac I believe you guys have pacs there or something like that.
We don't have PACs :f4: And a WG upgrade will come very last because that is the most expensive thing to upgrade per attack.
I want to upgrade my belt to an attack belt after I upgrade my PA. It will cost me like 350m for a 118+ surfboard and 200m+ for a 5 attack belt.
Isn't it better to get a blue belt or something along those lines and scroll it yourself?
Cancambo
2009-11-27, 05:10 PM
Isn't it better to get a blue belt or something along those lines and scroll it yourself?
I hate dojo, and a few STR/DEX isn't very alluring for all that work. I'd rather just save up my mesos to buy a better PA/attack belt.
StormMike
2009-11-27, 05:26 PM
What stats on pendent you using? Maybe you can upgrade that.
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