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Saver
2008-07-19, 08:03 PM
I've seen a thread about this in SW a while ago, but I couldn't relocate it.
I assumed it was either Fiel's or someone who got their posts deleted.
So the question: Does anyone have the monster data / information on every monster in the Carnival Party Quest?
Acc, Avoid, HP, resistance to elements, the whole sheet.
Also, I don't think this was included in that data, but can CPQ monsters get slowed down by a mage's slow skill? I tried it...but I don't know if I've seen any real difference. This might be kinda vital for my research :3.
Edit2: When slow is casted, the symbol appears on the monsters...however, I didn't see the difference (lvl 6 slow) , so I wanted to double check this way.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQCPListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQHPListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQExperienceListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQSpeedListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQAvoidabilityListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQAccuracyListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQWAListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQWDListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQMAListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQMDListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQKBListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQHP-CPListcopy.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/IceSaver/CPQHP-ExpListcopy.png
Rayquaza2233
2008-07-21, 09:21 AM
I'm pretty sure all elemental strengths/weaknesses are the same as regular monsters.
Saver
2008-07-21, 11:46 PM
Well, every monster is resistant to lightning; its a fact proven by many lightning mages hating it =[.
The rest of the elements seem right.
At first, I really thought the monsters were the same as their regular counterparts (CPQ Trojins were like Ludi Trojins, etc).
However, I've noticed that Ludi Trojins have 1920 HP, however, I sometimes hit them in CPQ for 2k+ with fire arrow, and they don't die.
So..........I think they have their own stats.
I wish that thread/post in SW hadn't gotten deleted ._. Oh well.
For reference, I got this off of HS' site.
Brown Teddy Level: 30 HP/MP: 950/0 EXP: 60 Meso: - KB: 1
Weapon attack: 100
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 38
Magic defense: 40
Speed: -15
Accuracy: 65
Avoidability: 12
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Effective status: Freeze
Bloctopus Level: 35 HP/MP: 1300/0 EXP: 72 Meso: 76-114 KB: 1
Weapon attack: 105
Magic attack: 115
Weapon defense: 100
Magic defense: 130
Speed: 0
Accuracy: 125
Avoidability: 15
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Less effective status: Freeze
Retz Level: 36 HP/MP: 1400/0 EXP: 78 Meso: 76-114 KB: 1
Weapon attack: 120
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 90
Magic defense: 85
Speed: 5
Accuracy: 100
Avoidability: 18
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Effective status: Freeze
Chronos Level: 37 HP/MP: 1750/30 EXP: 82 Meso: 96-144 KB: 1
Weapon attack: 117
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 90
Magic defense: 120
Speed: -20
Accuracy: 135
Avoidability: 20
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy, Heal
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: - Less effective status: Freeze
Toy Trojan Level: 39 HP/MP: 1920/0 EXP: 92 Meso: 96-144 KB: 1
Weapon attack: 124
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 110
Magic defense: 130
Speed: 20
Accuracy: 135
Avoidability: 18
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Less effective status: Freeze
Tick-Tock Level: 40 HP/MP: 1900/50 EXP: 95 Meso: 108-162 KB: 1
Weapon attack: 120
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 160
Magic defense: 170
Speed: -60
Accuracy: 115
Avoidability: 20
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Less effective status: Freeze
Robo Level: 41 HP/MP: 2000/0 EXP: 99 Meso: 116-174 KB: 1
Weapon attack: 133
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 190
Magic defense: 175
Speed: -40
Accuracy: 105
Avoidability: 15
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Lightning, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: Ice, Fire
Non-effective magic: Heal Effective status: None
King Block Golem Level: 45 HP/MP: 2600/0 EXP: 110 Meso: 164-246 KB: 400
Weapon attack: 150
Magic attack: 0
Weapon defense: 130
Magic defense: 110
Speed: -40
Accuracy: 105
Avoidability: 14
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Effective status: Freeze, Stun
Master Chronos Level: 46 HP/MP: 2600/70 EXP: 115 Meso: 172-258 KB: 300
Weapon attack: 130
Magic attack: 160
Weapon defense: 170
Magic defense: 200
Speed: -10
Accuracy: 155
Avoidability: 24
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy, Heal
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: - Effective status: Poison, Freeze Unique Attack: Long-ranged magical attack (cannot be evaded). Inflict status: None
Rombot Level: 47 HP/MP: 11000/220 EXP: 720 Meso: - KB: 1000
Weapon attack: 165
Magic attack: 185
Weapon defense: 165
Magic defense: 180
Speed: -50
Accuracy: 135
Avoidability: 16
Most effective magic: -
Effective magic: Ice, Lightning, Fire, Poison, Holy
Less effective magic: -
Non-effective magic: Heal Effective status: None Unique Attack: Strike (can be evaded by jumping).
Skills: Pressure Inflict status: None
Blankout
2008-07-22, 12:01 AM
I think the exp given is higher. I killed a Robo when all my members had logged off and I got 120 exp rather than 99.
And none of the monsters have MP, because MP eater doesn't work.
IsaacGS
2008-07-22, 12:29 AM
It would be really time consuming to convert this into a more readable form but I bet you can understand it. Ask if you have any questions.
Brown Teddy CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 1800
maxMP 0
speed 0
PADamage 155
PDDamage 70
MADamage 0
MDDamage 150
acc 75
eva 16
exp 110
undead 0
pushed 0
hpRecovery 10
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 1
link 3000005
elemAttr L2
firstAttack 1
Blocktopus CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 1800
maxMP 0
speed -10
PADamage 145
PDDamage 100
MADamage 165
MDDamage 150
acc 70
eva 18
exp 113
undead 0
pushed 0
hpRecovery 10
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 1
link 3230302
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Ratz CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 1600
maxMP 0
speed 20
PADamage 150
PDDamage 120
MADamage 0
MDDamage 160
acc 100
eva 25
exp 115
undead 0
pushed 1
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 1
link 3210208
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Chronos CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 2300
maxMP 30
speed 0
PADamage 155
PDDamage 110
MADamage 0
MDDamage 210
acc 135
eva 20
exp 113
undead 1
pushed 0
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 1
link 3230306
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Toy Trojan CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 39
maxHP 2300
maxMP 0
speed 30
PADamage 152
PDDamage 110
MADamage 0
MDDamage 100
acc 115
eva 20
exp 115
undead 0
pushed 1
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 2
link 3230305
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Tick-tock CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 2400
maxMP 50
speed -50
PADamage 157
PDDamage 210
MADamage 0
MDDamage 210
acc 80
eva 15
exp 117
undead 0
pushed 0
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 2
link 4230113
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Robo CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 3000
maxMP 0
speed -40
PADamage 145
PDDamage 200
MADamage 0
MDDamage 200
acc 95
eva 15
exp 120
undead 0
pushed 0
fs 10.0
summonType 1
elemAttr I2F2L2
getCP 3
link 4230111
firstAttack 1
King Blocktopus CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 3300
maxMP 0
speed -40
PADamage 160
PDDamage 210
MADamage 0
MDDamage 210
acc 70
eva 14
exp 135
undead 0
pushed 400
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 3
link 4230110
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Master Chronos CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 3000
maxMP 300
speed -10
PADamage 145
PDDamage 160
MADamage 165
MDDamage 200
acc 150
eva 24
exp 153
undead 1
pushed 300
fs 10.0
summonType 1
getCP 3
link 4230115
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Rombot CPQ
bodyAttack 1
level 30
maxHP 6500
maxMP 220
speed -50
PADamage 167
PDDamage 220
MADamage 180
MDDamage 220
acc 95
eva 12
exp 450
undead 0
pushed 1000
fs 10.0
summonType 1
boss 1
getCP 6
link 4130103
firstAttack 1
elemAttr L2
Blankout
2008-07-22, 12:45 AM
What are "bodyAttack," "hpRecovery," "fs," "link," and "firstAttack"?
IsaacGS
2008-07-22, 12:56 AM
What are "bodyAttack," "hpRecovery," "fs," "link," and "firstAttack"?
They're pretty self explanatory :p
Bodyattack - You'll take damage from touching its' body.
hpRecovery - recovers that amount of HP over time.
FirstAttack - Aggressive monster, attacks you before you attack it.
Link - just has the ID number of the real monster, so it doesn't waste space by doubling the images. (IE, link for Rombot links to the regular Rombot's ID number, so that they don't have two sets of Rombot frames.)
fs - don't even worry about it.
Saver
2008-07-22, 02:07 AM
Thanks alot for the information Issac! *saves in case this thread dies as well*
I can finally do some exact data comparisons :3.
Also, I am more of a visual person, so here are my visuals for the comparisons.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9827/cpqcplistcopygb8.png
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4779/cpqhplistcopyml3.png
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2854/cpqexperiencelistcopypu5.png
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5370/cpqspeedlistcopyng1.png
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6024/cpqavoidabilitylistcopyyx4.png
There are a few more I want to do, but I'm too tired out this night
(you can tell by how the order goes from left to right one time and right to left another).
Again, thanks for the data.
Blankout
2008-07-22, 12:32 PM
They're pretty self explanatory :p
Bodyattack - You'll take damage from touching its' body.
hpRecovery - recovers that amount of HP over time.
FirstAttack - Aggressive monster, attacks you before you attack it.
Link - just has the ID number of the real monster, so it doesn't waste space by doubling the images. (IE, link for Rombot links to the regular Rombot's ID number, so that they don't have two sets of Rombot frames.)
fs - don't even worry about it.
So only the Brown Teddy recovers HP, and do you know how long "over time" is?
Saver- Those comparisons are really useful and interesting! It seems like Retz would be a good monster to summon because of its high speed and avoid, but its HP bites.
Saver
2008-07-22, 01:30 PM
So only the Brown Teddy recovers HP, and do you know how long "over time" is?
Saver- Those comparisons are really useful and interesting! It seems like Retz would be a good monster to summon because of its high speed and avoid, but its HP bites.
Hehe, if anyone knows me in kradia (probably not know knows me, but know a person / team who bashes others in CPQ with different strategies), me and my fiance always summon ratz for archers.
Since archers have high avoid, ratz are perfect for their highest avoid and avoid up protector combination.
Also, their speed is great, so what luck against archers, combined with speed up.
After all that is taken care of, less monsters will be killed, so what better way to continue a hardcore bash than to summon the power up protector?
My archer strategy:
Wait and collect CP
Max Ratz
Avoid Up
Speed Up
Power Up
I've been thinking about using them against sins, but I assume they would still rape them.
However, they only give 1 point, so who cares :3.
Lastly, the reason for all of this is because I wanted to mainly find out what would be the best way to gain the most experience in a CPQ match (only monster summons).
So far, me and my fiance get about 1200 points on room 4 with maxed Master Chronos.
Of course, all of these refer to 2v2 matches.
I'm going to continue more comparison pics.
Blankout
2008-07-22, 01:45 PM
I've been thinking about using them against sins, but I assume they would still rape them.
However, they only give 1 point, so who cares :3.
Sins = jump over retz and L7. So yeah, it probably wouldn't work well against sins. Toy trojans are better for sins.
And, just wondering, what job combination are you and your fiance?
Saver
2008-07-22, 02:16 PM
So only the Brown Teddy recovers HP, and do you know how long "over time" is?
Saver- Those comparisons are really useful and interesting! It seems like Retz would be a good monster to summon because of its high speed and avoid, but its HP bites.Over time would probably be every 10 seconds.
And, just wondering, what job combination are you and your fiance?Fire and Ice.
We COULD DO:
Fire and Fire
Ice and Ice
Ice and Fire.
I went Ice first on kradia to do some early testing and prepare for Yellonde while my fiance went fire (our classes to be).
Then, we wanted to make new characters to try the Ariant Colloseum and KPQ again, so I went fire and she went Ice.
Eventually, we went back to CPQ and currently having much fun testing things there (and raping others, though most of them ALWAYS quit early <_<).
Updates
I changed the backgrounds of the comparisons (not updated yet) and made one for Weapon Attack and Accuracy.
Magic Defense really makes no difference.
Magic Attack...same. However, how the hell does a blockopus use magic attack?
Weapon Defense...I'll probably do it soon.
Any real others worth comparing?
Blankout
2008-07-22, 02:24 PM
I changed the backgrounds of the comparisons (not updated yet) and made one for Weapon Attack and Accuracy.
Magic Defense really makes no difference.
Magic Attack...same. However, how the hell does a blockopus use magic attack?
Weapon Defense...I'll probably do it soon.
Any real others worth comparing?
Knockback? Not really useful, but might be handy. And a blocktopus uses magic attack in the exact same way wolf spiders use theirs.
Woah, I just noticed that all the monsters are level 30.
Saver
2008-07-22, 02:33 PM
Knockback? Not really useful, but might be handy. And a blocktopus uses magic attack in the exact same way wolf spiders use theirs.
Woah, I just noticed that all the monsters are level 30.
...is that being sarcastic in the form of that they don't have any magic attack skill, or am I missing something obvious X_x?
Knockback...sure.
At this rate, I'll have everything compared (not a bad idea if you think about it)
Updated the first post.
Blankout
2008-07-22, 02:52 PM
...is that being sarcastic in the form of that they don't have any magic attack skill, or am I missing something obvious X_x?
Knockback...sure.
At this rate, I'll have everything compared (not a bad idea if you think about it)
Wolf spiders have magic attack in their data, too, but they also have no magic attack in-game.
I calculated some more stuff if you're interested in putting them up:
How much HP per 1 exp (HP:exp ratio), rounded to nearest hundredth:
Brown teddy: 16.36
Blocktopus: 15.93
Chronos: 20.35
Retz: 13.91
Toy trojan: 20
Tick-tock: 20.51
Robo: 25
King block golem: 24.44
Master chronos: 19.61
Rombot: 14.44
How much HP per CP (HP:CP ratio), rounded to nearest hundredth:
Brown teddy: 1800
Blocktopus: 1800
Chronos: 2300
Retz: 1600
Toy trojan: 1150
Tick-tock: 1200
Robo: 1000
King block golem: 1100
Master chronos: 1000
Rombot: 1083.33
Nice backgrounds, by the way, Saver.
Saver
2008-07-22, 06:11 PM
Added:
Weapon Defense
Magic Attack
Magic Defense
HP:CP
HP:Exp
Guess everything is all set with.
Everything is resistant to Lightning.
Robo is resistant to Lit, Fire and Ice.
Brown Teddy (and Blocktopus) recover 10 hp every 10 seconds.
I think I covered it all :3.
IsaacGS
2008-07-22, 06:17 PM
Added:
Weapon Defense
Magic Attack
Magic Defense
HP:CP
HP:Exp
Guess everything is all set with.
Everything is resistant to Lightning.
Robo is resistant to Lit, Fire and Ice.
Brown Teddy recover 10 hp every 10 seconds.
I think I covered it all :3.
Blocktopus recovers 10 HP as well.
Saver
2008-07-22, 06:25 PM
Also, Ratz should be Retz and King Blocktopus should be King Block Golem.
However, its a CPQ in-game error on their part, so nothing much we could do.
Blankout
2008-07-22, 11:26 PM
I just thought of something that might be useful: A value that helps scale the monsters best to worst for killing by using both the HP:exp ratios and HP:CP ratios.
The equation I used was: HP:exp x HP:CP. I think it's pretty accurate, but I'm not completely sure. If you look at the two diagrams, it seems like this works.
Rombot: 15643.29
Master chronos: 19610
Retz: 22256
Toy trojan: 23000
Tick-tock: 24612
Robo: 25000
Blocktopus: 28674
King block golem: 26884
Brown teddy: 29448
Chronos: 46805
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