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SoulQuincy
2008-07-18, 05:22 PM
to use a chaos scroll on a item does it need to have a base weapon attack?

for example can u use a chaos scroll on a zhelm and get watk?
or does it need to have a base attack like pac or fs?

Cardboardsnail
2008-07-18, 05:23 PM
Pretty sure it needs a base

Corn
2008-07-18, 05:24 PM
No for your first two questions. For your third question, it does not have to have a base attack. For example, take a brown work glove that's scrolled with one 30% glove attack. You can use a chaos scroll on it to gain attack. However, let's say you have a facestompers, and the chaos scroll takes away your only two attack. You cannot regain it with another chaos scroll.


@Retalion What about the first cell!?!?!?!?

Retalion
2008-07-18, 05:29 PM
You need a pre-existing stat for it to be increased/decreased by the chaos scroll.

"All cells come from pre-existing cells!"... just kidding.

WiseAlon32
2008-07-18, 05:40 PM
does chaos scrolls only affect att?
like, if i scroll a zhelm with a chaos scroll, can it improve the luk on the zhelm?
will it improve only the luk (or dex or str etc..)
and how about m.att?

Corn
2008-07-18, 05:40 PM
does chaos scrolls only affect att?
like, if i scroll a zhelm with a chaos scroll, can it improve the luk on the zhelm?
will it improve only the luk (or dex or str etc..)
and how about m.att?

No.
Yes.
No. It affects all stats if it works. No stat will stay the same.
Yes.

Retalion
2008-07-18, 05:41 PM
does chaos scrolls only affect att?
like, if i scroll a zhelm with a chaos scroll, can it improve the luk on the zhelm?
will it improve only the luk (or dex or str etc..)
and how about m.att?

Chaos scrolls can effect all stats on an item. Weapon attack is most mentioned as its the most useful (Afterall, we dont have glove wep atk scrolls that add +5 atk and we dont have cape for atk scrolls at all).

That being said, yes it can increase the luk on a z-helm, though it'd be a big risk and can take away/break it instead and whatnot, not to mention that they're too expensive to mass scroll right now for the average mapler.

EndlessAxis
2008-07-18, 06:33 PM
heh Chaos scrolling a ZH..now why didn't i think of that X_X I used a chaos scroll on a 4 atk pac, now I have a 8 atk 4 slot pac and i'm happy...xD still trying to sell it after 4 days X_x

Almo
2008-07-18, 07:19 PM
I was wondering what a Chaos scroll did, since I just recently came back to gMS I'm not really filled in on everything.

Could someone explain the effects of a Chaos scroll, 60%?

Zaotsu
2008-07-18, 07:22 PM
It's mostly explained above in the thread, but...

As you said, 60% chance of working, 40% chance of breaking.

If it works, it can add or subtract 1-5 stats from any stat ALREADY on an item. So, for example, on a clean weapon, it can only add or subtract attack. But if you use a 30% on it first, it can add or subtract both attack and the secondary / tertiary stat as well.

Almo
2008-07-18, 07:25 PM
Ohshi-
Risky, but hey, if it adds it's worth it. Thanks for telling me that xd.

butterfλi
2008-07-18, 08:00 PM
Ohshi-
Risky, but hey, if it adds it's worth it. Thanks for telling me that xd.

Actually, chaos scrolling a zhelm would be a waste of the scroll. Using it on weapons would be wasteful too because 10/30% scrolls already add 5 watk. It's best use would probably be on a fs or pink cape.

If it adds 5 str/dex/int/luk/wdef/mdef to a zhelm, that could've been an extra 5 watk on a fs or pink cape--far better benefit.

»-Chris->
2008-07-18, 08:25 PM
Okaaaay let me just sum up about as much about the Chaos scrolls as I can...

When you use a Chaos scroll it has a 60% chance of working... If it fails it blows up.
When it works it could add +1, +3, or +5 to all stats... Or even -1, -3, or -5 to all of them.
If you have a ZHelm with...
15 str
15 dex
15 int
15 luk
150 def
150 mag def
20 acc
20 avoid
And you use a scroll it would turn into
20 str
20 dex
20 luk
20 int
155 def
155 mag def
25 acc
25 avoid

Now for the a cape / fs it would add the the def and mag def AND the att.

Zaotsu
2008-07-18, 11:34 PM
Untrue. It doesn't effect all stats equally / the same.


http://www.mmoExchange.com/images/ChaosBefore.jpg

http://www.mmoexchange.com/images/ChaosAfter.jpg
as you can see, it took off anywhere from 2 - 5 att, 5 magic def, but only 1 def.

in this one...


http://www.mmoexchange.com/images/Chaos2Before.jpg


http://www.mmoexchange.com/images/Chaos2After.jpg
it only took away from the defense.

and this one...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g138/sofabolous/Maple0007.jpg
shows that it adds differing amounts as well.

I don't know if it is able to add AND subtract in one scroll as well though.

Harrisonized
2008-07-19, 12:40 AM
I once did an analysis on Chaos scrolls. IDK if the %s are right or if its accurate, because it's only a hypothesis. However, I noticed that the stats it added or took away totaled in scroll patterns.
Like for glove atk:
+1 stat (100%)
+2 stat (60%)
+3 stat (10%)
And for Weapons:
+1 stat (100%)
+2 stat +1 stat (60%)
+5 stat + 3stat +1 stat (10%)


2% +1 stat (following 100% scroll pattern)
2% +2 primary stat -1 secondary stat
2% +3 primary stat -2 secondary stat
2% +4 primary stat -3 secondary stat
2% +5 primary stat -4 secondary stat

5% +2 primary stat and +1 stat (following 60% weapon scroll pattern)
5% +2 stat (following 60% glove atk scroll pattern)

5% +5 primary stat and +3 stat and +1 tertiary stat (following 10% weapon scroll pattern)
5% +3 stat (following 10% glove atk scroll pattern)

2% -1 stat (following 100% scroll pattern)
2% -2 primary stat +1 secondary stat
2% -3 primary stat +2 secondary stat
2% -4 primary stat +3 secondary stat
2% -5 primary stat +4 secondary stat

5% -1 primary stat and -2 secondary stat (following 60% weapon scroll pattern)
5% -2 stat (following 60% glove atk scroll pattern)

5% -3 primary stat and -5 secondary stat and -1 tertiary stat (following 10% weapon scroll pattern)
5% -3 stat (following 10% glove atk scroll pattern)

40% Break

I posted this on Sleepywood.

Russt
2008-07-19, 02:21 AM
How does it choose the primary stat and etc?

Manu
2008-07-19, 11:40 AM
Uhhm in order from top to bottom? o,o or maybe programmed to know that it's like on claws att>luk>dex>acc>def....

Sinnuendo
2008-07-19, 12:28 PM
How does it choose the primary stat and etc?

It doesn't, it just randomly increases/decreases stats.

banditcom
2008-07-19, 12:52 PM
heh Chaos scrolling a ZH..now why didn't i think of that X_X I used a chaos scroll on a 4 atk pac, now I have a 8 atk 4 slot pac and i'm happy...xD still trying to sell it after 4 days X_x

I want. D:

»-Chris->
2008-07-19, 04:49 PM
Oh, I thought it did... I'll have to check with my friends again, lol. =P