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FelixTM
2009-04-29, 10:38 PM
Katawa Shoujo (Disability/Cripple Girl) is a visual novel that's been in the works for a few years now by the lovely people of /a/ & /jp/ (though it's much more than a "4chan project"). I've been following it every now and then since I heard about it awhile back. I was extremely pleased to learn that Chapter1 and (seemingly) all its routes have been released.
http://www.katawa-shoujo.com/
That's their site, where you can learn everything you wish to know about it and download Chapter1. I played it today (took about 2 hours, with fast text speed and near non-stop playing on my part), and I LOVED every moment of it. For those of you who have no idea or are too lazy to read the site, it's a VN about a boy who gets a dangerous heart condition and has to attend a school for people with disabilities/special needs. He meets several unique girls and can build relationships with them depending on the choices you make for him. It's a Japanese-style VN through-and-through, but you can feel the Western influence behind it (and it's done in English text, of course).
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Aaaand now I need to talk about my experience/thoughts. Like I said, I thoroughly enjoyed it and I could see this becoming an amazing VN when it's finished. Chapter1 had me hooked like no other and had my mind swarming with possibilities/fantasies. I have a fetish for disabilities myself, so maybe that's why I found this so enjoyable...but whatever. It's great even if you're not into that. It has a LOT of hilarious scenes and really good humor too. Kenji and Rin's scenes are especially LOLriots, I guarantee. The characters are very well drawn, the backgrounds are awesome, the music is good and the sounds are pretty decent too. The only downside is that there isn't any voice acting. Oh well. The story is well thought out, and the text is well done, proper and neatly presented.
Going into the game, I had a strong desire to try steering the protagonist (Hisao) towards Hanako (severely burned at a young age and is covered in scars). Thankfully, it seems I was quite good at choosing the decisions that I thought would lead to her. I definitely got much closer to her and started down her route by the end of the Chapter1 (woot). However, once I completed Chapter1 and could look at my Extras, I realized how many scenes there were left to unlock. I'm tempted to go back and try going down the other routes.
I definitely plan to stick with Hanako, but I'm quite interested in Lilly (completely blind) and Shizune+Misha (deaf/mute girl + her "translator" companion). Oh the fantasies I can foresee... I love Hanako because she's extremely shy and self-conscious because of her extreme scarring. I want to be the one close to her and love her and tell her she's still beautiful. ;_; But it's also quite tempting to win over Lilly, who is very sweet and charming. There has to be an extra strong bond of trust, since she's blind...which you know could be delicious. And with Shizune+Misha, who are inseparable, you'd have to win them both over... One is strong-willed and loves competition, while the other is crazy and outgoing. Can you imagine the threesome? Oh god.
Anywaaaay... Definitely check it out. It's well worth your time. It also promises to turn into one of my favorite romance VNs ever. I've heard there's to be h-scenes by the end, too. And maybe even a possible harem end.
Oh how I can not wait...
I expect some of you guys to play this now, too, so that we can discuss it. DO IT, F'AGS.
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Conclusion/Summaries/Final Opinions of Katawa Shoujo after 100% completion:
My favorite girl from the beginning and still my favorite girl after the end. However, I grew to love some of the other girls very much too--almost as much as Hanako.
Hanako's route is fairly straight forward. She's much different than the other girls and keeps to herself extremely. To start Hanako's route, make sure you say you think she's cute (or ask Misha/Shizune about the library).
By saying you think Hanako is cute, you'll later feel bad about scaring her off during your first meeting in the library. You'll be prompted to go talk with Hanako during class. If you choose to, you're basically deciding you do, indeed, want to pursue either Hanako or Lilly. If you want to back off those girls, do so now and choose to read your book instead (or wait for Misha/Shizune to come a decision if you chose to play aggressively earlier). By talking with Hanako, you'll end up going to have tea with Lilly and Hanako for lunch. It really bonds you much closer to both girls, though Hanako is still very shy.
After this, your life will basically revolve completely around Hanako and Lilly. You'll still meet the other girls and spend some time with them, but you won't get close to any of them. Hanako will wonder where Lilly is and you'll accompany her to the blind classroom. Then you'll help Lilly out by helping Kenji finish his banner along with Hanako. Much more glorious bonding is had.
The next major thing in this route is going to town with Lilly. You'll have a great time and bond with her while you help her shop. It's very sweet. After a random encounter with Rin, Lilly will become concerned about your heavy breathing. By telling her you're not in very good condition, she'll learn of your heart problem and become very adorably concerned about you. Don't be afraid to admit you're not in good condition; avoiding this matter will not be pretty.
Next comes the big decision: When you're in class the next day, you have to figure out how to kill some time. Head to town and meet with Lilly? Or follow Hanako to the library? It's obvious what to do here. Want Lilly? Go to town? Want Hanako? Go to the library. By following Hanako to the library, you'll end up reading together and sharing an awkwardly cute bonding moment. This is all you'll need to achieve the quickly approaching Hanako end.
On the final day, at the festival, you'll meet Lilly attending her class' booth. You'll order some food and chat with her. She'll wonder where Hanako is, but she'll be too busy to leave the stand. You'll then go and look for Hanako by yourself. Sure enough, you find her in the library (what a rebel ;_;). After some chatting, you end up going to a private room to spend some time with her. On your way there, you see Hanako walking kind of funny. She reveals a silly little game she plays with herself when she's walking alone: She avoids the darker colored parts of the floors (d'awwww). When you get to the room, she suggests playing chess. The Hanako Chapter 1 route comes to an end after one game of chess and deciding to play another!
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Lilly's Chapter 1 route doesn't differ very much from Hanako's. Read the above spoiler for much more information. I'll just add the unique parts here.
Be sure to take Lilly's side during the argument between Lilly and Shizune!
When deciding what to do to kill time on the day before the festival, choosing to go to town will result in you finding Lilly inside the tea cafe (Shanghai). Inside, you'll meet Akira, Lilly's sister. Akira dresses and looks very male-ish (she's delicious, I promise). After sitting and listening to them chat, Akira will leave and you'll chat with Lilly for a while. This will be all you need to achieve the quickly approaching Lilly end.
On the final day, at the festival, you'll meet Lilly at her class' booth and order some food. However, this time, she will be able to find some help to take over for her. She will accompany you in your search for Hanako. After finding Hanako in the library, you, Lilly and Hanako will watch the beautiful fireworks at the festival's closing. Lilly is happy and sad the festival is coming to an end, but you comfort her by placing your hand on her shoulder. Much d'awwwing is had as you look forward to having tea with Hanako and Lilly every day from now on.
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I didn't like Shizune at all at first, as she comes off really bossy/stuck up. However, Misha is sexy (although kinda wacky and slow) and is always around Shizune, so that's cool. I did grow to like Shizune more after experiencing her Chapter 1 route, too.
You first meet Shizune and Misha on your first day of class. Blah blah. You eat lunch together. They ask you questions. Blah blah. They bring up the idea of you joining student council. They pick on you. Blah blah. After playing a game of Risk with them, you tell them you'll think about joining--maybe. Make sure you play aggressively during Risk to keep their interest in you growing.
The next day in class Shizune and Misha will be arguing about where to eat. If you decide to wait for them to decide, you'll end up going with them to the tea cafe (Shanghai) for lunch. Much fun is had as Misha and Shizune reveal their trickery in getting you to skip class, nearly forcing you to join the student council to get out of the future trouble!
After class, you help the girls get some items for their festival work. After meeting the rest of the girls and lots of random stuff, the next day brings a conflict between Lilly and Shizune. Be sure to care only about yourself and not bother defending Lilly too. Since you said you're a capable guy, Shizune and Misha will trap you into helping them build booths for the festival for the rest of the day. Once it's night and you're all done, you'll agree to join the student council!
The next morning, Misha and Shizune will come to your dorm to pick you up (more like prevent you from running away) and invade your room. Oh noes. Be sure to just try dodging the subject when they ask you about your heart meds. Do not kick them out! After helping the girls finish up festival stuff, the day goes pretty quiet and night comes quickly.
The next morning they invade your dorm again (!) and get you to come have tea with them another time. After spending some time with them there and engaging in a battle of wits with Shizune, you'll be forced to find your way back to school alone...only to end up working more when you get back. You spend all day bonding and helping again. Your reward: take out food! YES. Oh yeah, and because you lost the battle earlier, you had to agree to attend the festival tomorrow!
On the final day, the girls will pick you up and take you to the festival. You spend the entire day eating food, chatting and playing games. You win Shizune a cute kitty doll, even! Aww. Shizune's Chapter 1 route ends atop the roof, watching the fireworks and realizing you are starting to love her.
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Emi is veeery short and extremely cute. However, I didn't like her much at first because I knew she was the athletic one. I changed my mind after experiencing her route, as well. Isn't it crazy how lovable all the women are?
Your first encounter with Emi is always her running into you and causing you to almost die. f3 You'll see her again after finally listening to the Nurse and going running with Emi in the morning. After a failtacular performance, you'll wonder why the hell you'd want to keep running! But if you promise the Nurse you'll keep at it, you'll go running with Emi a second time. You can either choose to be a MAN and race Emi or back off. If you race her, you will trigger a minor heart attack and nearly die (lolfail). Emi will be super scared and take you to the Nurse. After a dual-scolding, Emi promises to treat you to lunch atop the roof later.
You can end up having lunch with Emi and Rin atop the roof in a number of ways, but you won't be able to stay on Emi's route unless you proved your merit by racing her. So be sure to almost kill yourself for her!
The next notable experience with Emi comes during a state of boredom, wondering what you should do. Emi intercepts you and makes you help her and Rin paint. You go with Emi to get some supplies from the art classroom. When you get back, Rin demands some Prussian Blue! You and Emi head back up to get it, and then she confronts you with her plan for your well-being! She makes you agree to run with her every morning from now on and stay on a strict meal plan. Her concern is so cute.
On the final day, at the festival, Emi basically rapes all your fun and prevents you from eating any good food. ;_; Emi's Chapter 1 route ends VERY boringly by you agreeing to run with her in the morning...so you head off to bed early.
COME ON...I mean...<3
I didn't know how to feel about Rin in the beginning. I learned she's frickin' crazy, which is cool...but she's like REALLY mellow and lives in her own world. But after experiencing her route, I think she's actually just hiding a lot of love inside her.
You first meet Rin when Misha (or Misha/Shizune, depending) gets you to fetch some supplies from the art room. Rin is all alone inside, eating a meal during the afternoon. A hilarious conversation ensues where you learn she likes knowing about people's disabilities. You also discover she's crazy right away. Awesome.
If you wanna get on Rin's route, make sure you never get close to any other girl. Don't show any interest in the library or Shizune, don't think Hanako is cute, play defensively in Risk, avoid going to lunch with any other girls, don't stick up for Lilly during the conflict and don't race Emi. However, make sure you tell Lilly about your heart condition (you don't wanna be a complete douchebag). Since you haven't gotten even kinda close to any girl besides Emi and Lilly, when helping Emi and Rin paint, you won't accompany Emi up to fetch Prussian Blue. You'll stay with Rin and watch her paint. This is the true beginning of the Rin story. Yeah, it's the hardest to get to. What a picky woman.
After watching Rin paint for a while, the art teacher, Nomiya, will show up and ask you what the hell you're doing (basically, lol). Make sure you express your interest in the art club if you wish to be with Rin! If you're a f'ag this late in the game, bad things will happen. Nomiya is happy, Rin doesn't care...and then you spend the entire day watching Rin paint. You also learn she's on her period. I'm not even kidding.
On the final day, at the festival, you meet Rin at her now finished (and incredible) mural. Her legs are seriously hurt from painting all day, so she can't really move and just chills there. You decide to just...chill there with her...all day. Yeah. You just stand there. Chilling. A little bit of pointless discussion, and then you fall asleep. You wake up to the sound of fireworks and Rin sleeping on you (aww). After a bit she wakes up too and you share an insightful conversation. You part ways kinda wondering what just happened, but hopeful for your future with Rin and the art club, nonetheless.
Kind of <3, I guess.
Yeah, this game does have a BAD END, believe it or not.
If you're a complete and total douche to every girl every chance you get, you'll achieve this terrible (but absolutely hilarious) ending with Kenji. It's quite easy to achieve and can be done with many different answers. However, just make sure you're a douche where it matters and you're crystal.
On the final day, you agree to meet Kenji atop the roof to have a MANLY PICNIC. This of course means a picnic between men...with whiskey. Lots of it. You two discuss how women are evil while getting trashed. It all comes to a crashing halt when you fall off the roof in your drunken stupor and die.
Yep, say hello to the beautiful and bloody SPLAT BAD END of Katawa Shoujo. Enjoy being a dead douchebag, you f'ag.
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Obviously I left a TON of stuff out, but those summaries were just to give you the main idea and key events during all girl's Chapter 1 route end. Be sure to play them all if you want to experience every detail. If I left anything important out that you feel should be added, let me know. And if I made any mistakes, definitely let me know.
Hanako = read books and play chess with Hanako away from everyone else during the festival. Very cute ending, though lacks the power the others do. It will be insanely boring to anyone who doesn't like Hanako. I really liked it, but I guess honestly all it achieves is setting up Hanako route for Chapter 2.
Lilly = meet her sister (Akira), search for Hanako together and watch the fireworks as you look forward to spending more time with her. Very sweet ending, but mainly sets up Lilly route for Chapter 2.
Shizune = join student council, do a buttload of helping for festival, spend festival playing games and eating, finish the day by watching fireworks with Shizune and realizing you love her. Most powerful ending. I would say the best ending because it did much more than just set up the Shizune Chapter 2 route.
Emi = agree to run with her every morning and eat healthy foods, festival ends early because you agree to get up early and run with her. Worst ending by far. Lacks any power, just sets up Emi route for Chapter 2.
Rin = watch her paint, meet art teacher (Nomiya), join art club, spend festival with her standing by her mural, watch fireworks together. Interesting end, though kind of boring. Mainly sets up Rin route for Chapter 2.
BAD END = you die, alone and a douchebag. Need I say more?
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/43/ksroutes.png
Thanks to the Anon that posted/made it.
By choosing those answers to questions, you are guaranteed to achieve your desired girl's ending. However, keep in mind not all questions are vital to staying on a girl's route. You can answer differently to some and it won't matter. Just use your brain and pick answers you know your girl will like, and you should be golden.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2253/ksakira.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/287/ksnomiya.jpg
The first one is Lilly's sister, Akira. You will only see her if you achieve the Lilly ending. The second one is the art teacher, Nomiya. You only see him if you achieve the Rin ending. They're characters that have a VERY small role in Chapter 1, so I thought I'd show put them here for easy access.
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6457/ksfinal1.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1747/ksfinal2.jpg
That's the final image in the Extras' Gallery. You will earn it by getting 100% completion and viewing the Akira scene (only on the Lilly route).
Closing remarks: Incredible visual novel. After just Chapter 1, I can safely say it's one of the best VNs I've ever played. It may not have the absolutely professional quality of mainstream Japanese VNs, but it's an amazing work, especially considering it was started as a project on /a/. I will DEFINITELY play the game again when the full version is released. And I will achieve 100% in EVERY chapter, no matter what. It's so worth it.
There are many unique ways to achieve the endings, and it's very fun to see how answering different to the multitude of questions affects the dialogue and the appearance of the numerous scenes. Have fun and be sure to get that 100% completion. It's absolutely worth it!
10/10.
The Akira/Lilly tea cafe scene does NOT register/save in the Extras' Library for some reason, so it doesn't count towards 100% completion. However, it is still required to unlock the final image.
The Lilly ending scene is unlocked and registered in the Library simply by achieving Hanako's ending. So you'll get both endings by doing just Hanako's. And while it may count towards the 100% completion without having to actually do it, you still have to do Lilly's route to view the Akira scene.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9951/ksroutemap.jpg
If you find it helpful, cool. Probably confusing though...
JoeTang
2009-04-29, 10:41 PM
I'm going to guess this was inspired by Satou and Yamazaki's character designs? Wheelchair blind ghost alien girl or whatnot. D/Ling right now. Off for dinner. Will play, fap, and comment later.
FelixTM
2009-04-29, 10:45 PM
I'm going to guess this was inspired by Satou and Yamazaki's character designs? Wheelchair blind ghost alien girl or whatnot. D/Ling right now. Off for dinner. Will play, fap, and comment later.
Dunno for sure. Don't think so? What started it all was a doujin page posted on /a/ one time by Raita. Talk started about making it into something real. Years pass, RESULTS.
Don't expect TOO much fapping in Chapter1 (though surely didn't stop me), as it's pretty tame to start off. Just getting to know all the girls, starting to build relationships and focusing on starting a route.
OMG I forgot to add... I was SOOO upset when I finally started getting closer to Hanako and Chapter1 ENDED. WHAT THE HELL. She was warming up to me and we were finally comfortably alone playing chess together. I was so happy...and then it was ripped away.
;___;
I just want to love Hanako tenderly.
I was considering downloading it (Because I love VN with good stories and good humor), and you just convinced me.
I'll download and play tonight or tomorrow.
FelixTM
2009-04-29, 11:04 PM
I was considering downloading it (Because I love VN with good stories and good humor), and you just convinced me.
I'll download and play tonight or tomorrow.
Yay!
Just keep in mind that if you do get into the story, this project was started as (and still is) an "adult" VN. It's going to have explicit sex scenes (and please let them be delicious) when it gets farther along. However, I've read they're considering adding an "all-ages" version alongside the normal, explicit version (don't know if want).
Chapter 1 is completely clean, though.
I'm gonna try getting the Chapter 1 Lilly end tomorrow, when I have free time again. Hopefully I can unlock all scenes/images/music by this weekend too.
Random hilarious things I noticed:
Look at the surprise cameo in the classroom in the beginning! LOL
And maybe this is just me, but I SWEAR I heard "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" being said in the parts that use the "random chatter" sound they recorded. It's the only part with voice acting that I've noticed. It's used to create the effect of people chatting nonsensically all around you. If/when you get to scenes that use it, try listening to what they're saying. I lol'd.
I don't mind adult content. I understand what it is and such, but I just didn't know if it was going to be worth the download.
However, your enthusiasm clearly shows enough approval for me to download.
FelixTM
2009-04-29, 11:24 PM
I don't mind adult content. I understand what it is and such, but I just didn't know if it was going to be worth the download.
However, your enthusiasm clearly shows enough approval for me to download.
Yeah, I know. Everyone (pretty much) who actually bothers coming into this section is a bro, anyway. I don't think there's too many underageb&'s here. I just figured I'd throw that out to be safe.
I'm not really an Anime person but it sounds interesting, I've never done anything like this. Gonna dl it, take a nice shower, and start :)
EngelRod
2009-04-30, 12:10 AM
I recently saw this at Sankaku Complex, the concept is really nice and some of the girls are very moe. :goggle:
While I don't post here often, I lurk the Airing Anime thread a lot, and your recommendations are usually very useful, so I'm downloading right now. XD
Salguod
2009-04-30, 12:16 AM
Played the introduction. Very nice art but the music's been bland so far. The pity dialogue was great. Will continue when I have more free time.
FelixTM
2009-04-30, 12:21 AM
Awesome guys. Got almost everyone I was hoping for to join me. Missing Dyx (lol dicks) yet, though. Probably sleeping or something.
If anyone does Rin or Emi's routes first, let me know about them! I'm gonna be doing them last if at all. Rin = no arms, strange (very), amusing. Emi = no legs (has prosthetics), very athletic, energetic. Not really my types.
JoeTang
2009-04-30, 01:04 AM
I'm going to attempt Lilly get. Music is alright, but it's annoying how the track sometimes get stucks. I'm way too used to voice overs too. Hehe. Just imagining how those folks would get voice acting done...
FelixTM
2009-04-30, 01:11 AM
Music is alright, but it's annoying how the track sometimes get stucks.
Odd. That never happened to me at all.
Lilly is definitely a close second for me. And I love that she's Hanako's best friend.
The only character that needs a route is KENJI. That would be legendary. He has some of the most hilarious dialogue I've ever read. I RAGED when he called Lilly a
"blind broad"
though. But I forgave him, since he's an awesome douchebag.
JoeTang
2009-04-30, 01:13 AM
Emi is pretty HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG. Just ran into her. Lol.
FelixTM
2009-04-30, 08:53 AM
When you see it...
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9194/lelouuuchee.png
So I heard Rin's route is difficult to discover/achieve. This intrigues me.
GMSInfighter
2009-04-30, 08:56 AM
I shall play after school! :D
Thanks.
FelixTM
2009-04-30, 09:11 AM
I shall play after school! :D
Thanks.
Welcome aboard!
And wow, I am so disappoint with /a/ and /jp/ right now. They're frickin' RAGING over ONE line that is very poorly written. I agree, it is. But OH GOD that must mean the entire VN is written by 12 year olds. YES. It's very well done so far, and this is only the demo for goodness' sake.
Glad some people are enjoying it without feeling the need to troll.
I've only played for half an hour so far and I'm loving it. Let's see what comes after the quiet part. Needs some fappan now. Kudos to you for bringing this to Southperry.
Edit: Btw, some disabilities are kind of.... bizarre.
Beaner
2009-04-30, 10:37 AM
downloading it now, so far your pics on anime and manga have been excellent for me, lets see how this works. i never played something like this so if you have some more of these games let me know ;D
Dyxanije
2009-04-30, 10:43 AM
Awesome guys. Got almost everyone I was hoping for to join me. Missing Dyx (lol dicks) yet, though. Probably sleeping or something.
If anyone does Rin or Emi's routes first, let me know about them! I'm gonna be doing them last if at all. Rin = no arms, strange (very), amusing. Emi = no legs (has prosthetics), very athletic, energetic. Not really my types.
Lol Felix. I actually saw this thread last night before I went to bed. I have already downloaded it but I probably won't have time to play it until the weekend. So many projects so little time ;_;.
FelixTM
2009-04-30, 10:45 AM
downloading it now, so far your pics on anime and manga have been excellent for me, lets see how this works. i never played something like this so if you have some more of these games let me know ;D
Unexpected entry!
Yeah, I've played several great VNs, however they aren't freeware (Katawa Shoujo is), and I don't plan on posting them publicly. They're not hard to find if you go looking and know how to use torrents, though. Some of my favorite non-romance VNs are "Chaos;Head," "Tsukihime" and like any "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni" release ("sound novels").
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k so, I accidentally spoiled the picture you get for unlocking everyone's ending. Dangit, it's gorgeous and now I must earn it for myself.
Dyxanije! You ninja'd me. I knew you'd be here (or else).
JoeTang
2009-04-30, 04:20 PM
When you see it...
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9194/lelouuuchee.png
Okay, that's just creepy.
FelixTM
2009-04-30, 04:23 PM
Okay, that's just creepy.
And people doubted he was still alive. He got put there for being mentally retarded. Something about telling people to "OBEY ME" all the time.
So how far are you now good sir?
JoeTang
2009-04-30, 04:24 PM
And people doubted he was still alive. He got put there for being mentally retarded. Something about telling people to "OBEY ME" all the time.
So how far are you now good sir?
hm. Can't really remember. I think the last thing I did was help Rin paint for the second time and then went to bed (in game and real life). Just woke up from a good 13 hours sleep. Now I have to quickly go eat and get to work.
Dyxanije
2009-05-01, 02:02 AM
I met Hanako in the library and scared her away ;_;.
I think I might go with Shizune's route.
I stopped at meeting Hanako at the library, but she didn't run off (yet?). I wish I had more time to play this because t's pretty fun and interesting. L> weekend
FelixTM
2009-05-01, 02:23 AM
Crazy how you guys can actually stop. I can never stop during a chapter. I stop at the end of chapters...and since this is only one chapter so far. :( Yeah. I guess it's a gift and a curse.
Gonna do another round tomorrow. Probably gonna get the Lilly end.
Drycona
2009-05-01, 02:47 AM
Crazy how you guys can actually stop.
Yea I wish I could stop mid story also but I just have to know what happens next. This looks interesting but since I will probably rage about not knowing the ending I probably will hold off till the full release is done (that and it isn't probably a good idea for me to get engrossed in something during my finals).
Well, this is it so far: I've gotten the shizune and Lilly endings... Oh, and managed to suicide at the end but can't get to understand... Misha has any disability? She seems normal to me... Except for her being extremely childish... So, I dunno. VN has been great so far, still I find some sentences out of place... Like when you are talking to mai and you tell her: "real men don't stretch". Are you srs? And a couple more around. Either way, awesome.
Excuse me for the crappy format, posting from a blackberry ain't that comfortable xD
FelixTM
2009-05-01, 07:09 PM
Well, this is it so far: I've gotten the shizune and Lilly endings... Oh, and managed to suicide at the end but can't get to understand... Misha has any disability? She seems normal to me... Except for her being extremely childish... So, I dunno. VN has been great so far, still I find some sentences out of place... Like when you are talking to mai and you tell her: "real men don't stretch". Are you srs? And a couple more around. Either way, awesome.
Excuse me for the crappy format, posting from a blackberry ain't that comfortable xD
Yeah, it's confirmed Misha has a disability. However, the devs are being pretty strict about not revealing anything because supposedly her disability plays a big role in Chapter 2. I think at one point Misha says she gets dizzy on stairs. Clue perhaps?
Erich
2009-05-01, 07:11 PM
i'll dl it one of these days.
Yeah, it's confirmed Misha has a disability. However, the devs are being pretty strict about not revealing anything because supposedly her disability plays a big role in Chapter 2. I think at one point Misha says she gets dizzy on stairs. Clue perhaps?
That's pretty much the only thing I could guess. Two more questions, do the stories and the endings you got in the first chapter give more options for chapter 2? And also, what was the line that /a/ and /Jp/ argued about?
xBTAx
2009-05-01, 07:35 PM
14 year old boy. Guess I'm outside your expected age range. :f3:
So yeah, I won't be playing this, but it does make me want to go play Clannad, since I haven't beaten Kotomi's route yet.
I will probably play this if they make a clean version, though. ^_^
Erich
2009-05-01, 08:05 PM
Pffft. Screw clean, who cares if im young :redface:
FelixTM
2009-05-01, 09:12 PM
That's pretty much the only thing I could guess. Two more questions, do the stories and the endings you got in the first chapter give more options for chapter 2? And also, what was the line that /a/ and /Jp/ argued about?
Yes. When the full game is released, in traditional VN style, the choices you make in Chapter 1 will affect the choices you can make in Chapter 2, Chapter 3, etc. Depending on how many possible routes they create, it could become very difficult to unlock every possible scene. Like if you got the Hanako end in Chapter 1, you'll probably be on the Hanako route through Chapter 2, if you keep making choices that work with her. Many different things they could do with it.
They were arguing over the "huge, huge blush" line. I can't remember it exactly, but it used some really stupid verb choice and sounded awkward. I might try finding it later and post it here.
Edit: Just came across it while playing again. It's actually a really screwed up sentence. Haha
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4459/ksblush.jpg
Noticed a couple other minor errors before that one too. Obviously the writing needs some touching up, but it's nothing to RAGE over.
JoeTang
2009-05-01, 10:39 PM
Yes. When the full game is released, in traditional VN style, the choices you make in Chapter 1 will affect the choices you can make in Chapter 2, Chapter 3, etc. Depending on how many possible routes they create, it could become very difficult to unlock every possible scene. Like if you got the Hanako end in Chapter 1, you'll probably be on the Hanako route through Chapter 2, if you keep making choices that work with her. Many different things they could do with it.
They were arguing over the "huge, huge blush" line. I can't remember it exactly, but it used some really stupid verb choice and sounded awkward. I might try finding it later and post it here.
Edit: Just came across it while playing again. It's actually a really screwed up sentence. Haha
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/4459/ksblush.jpg
Noticed a couple other minor errors before that one too. Obviously the writing needs some touching up, but it's nothing to RAGE over.
It's not that bad. <_< I didn't get a chance to play any last night because I was stuck playing Diablo II with a buddy of mine from Midnight til 4:30AM... And then I downloaded K-ON! 05 and another show and watched those and went to bed. AUGH FUCKING SUN HAS TO RISE SO DAMN EARLY NOW IT'S HARD TO SLEEP T_T
FelixTM
2009-05-01, 10:49 PM
It's not that bad. <_< I didn't get a chance to play any last night because I was stuck playing Diablo II with a buddy of mine from Midnight til 4:30AM... And then I downloaded K-ON! 05 and another show and watched those and went to bed. AUGH pineappleING SUN HAS TO RISE SO DAMN EARLY NOW IT'S HARD TO SLEEP T_T
FOOL. NO EXCUSES.
Just got to the KENJI (the MAN) bathroom scene again. LOL I've been trying to answer all the questions different than before this time and see where it takes me. It looks like I definitely won't be seeing much of Lilly and Hanako. Possibly Misha/Shizune, even though I chose the defense choice in Risk. Maybe I'll get Rin or Emi? Gonna find out!
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2213/ksporn.jpg
KENJI IS SUCH A STUD.
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k, this is actually turning out to be awesome. I'm really missing Hanako, and I felt bad being mean to Lilly, but I'm surprised how much completely different scenes I've been seeing as a result. Like a completely new story. Looks like I'm getting the closest to Emi. Went running with her a 2nd time and almost died (lol).
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7769/kshnng.jpg
HHHHNNNNNNNNNNGG
I have like NO frickin' idea how to get the Rin end, unless something else comes up yet. I'm feeling the Emi end with this one.
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Hm, I was closer to being done than I thought. I was right about Emi end, though I am disappoint. I thought it was going to end with running with her a 3rd time. But no, it ends with him going to sleep looking forward to running with her in the morning. RIP OFF. Chapter1 Emi end fails. UGH. Why is this game not finished yet?? I WANT TO PLAY MORE.
80% completion now, after two play throughs. Missing like two songs and several more scenes yet. Tempted to do my 3rd time tonight...but I think I'll resist until tomorrow.
Dyxanije
2009-05-02, 12:43 AM
Kenji is hilarious. I want a side story where I can play from his point of view for at least a day or something.
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 12:46 AM
Kenji is hilarious. I want a side story where I can play from his point of view for at least a day or something.
They better make a Kenji route, where you become bros for life and rule out women FOREVER while plotting their demise (with graphs and puppets).
BRO END.
Dyxanije
2009-05-02, 01:02 AM
They better make a Kenji route, where you become bros for life and rule out women FOREVER while plotting their demise (with graphs and puppets).
BRO END.
I want that too.
Anyway, I am leaning towards Hanako or Lilly, since I pissed off Misha and Shizune. I am going to go finish because it has been annoying me all day.
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 01:29 AM
News: Apparently all the routes are drafted (or farther), half or so of the CGs are completed and all the music is done. One character's (who wasn't in Chapter 1) sprites have yet to be done. Seems like it'll largely be finishing the CGs, piecing it all together and doing proofreading/testing. I'm gonna stay optimistic and hope it gets done within a year's time. Well, a man can hope.
Seems quite a few others haven't found the Rin end yet, either. I don't want to go looking too hard because a part of me doesn't want it spoiled. But if it gives me trouble, I may have to.
Beaner
2009-05-02, 02:23 AM
this is really fun, too bad it is so short, i could get hooked on these things....
god no, maple is enough of a drug.
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 02:28 AM
this is really fun, too bad it is so short, i could get hooked on these things....
god no, maple is enough of a drug.
Play full-length VNs. Those consume days upon days if you want to do all the routes. :D And glad to have you on the good side. I'm always disappointed that so many people have never played (or even heard of...) visual novels. I guess either too stupid to find them or too intimidated by reading? lol
Also L> for moar discussion. I made this thread because I wanted to introduce SP to a unique, fun and free VN so that we could all discuss it, share our thoughts, progress and have a generally merry time.
Prompt: Thoughts on Misha's disability? There's no right or wrong answer at this point.
Dyxanije
2009-05-02, 02:43 AM
Apparently I got Emi's ending because I went with her and Rin to the festival.
Play full-length VNs. Those consume days upon days if you want to do all the routes. :D And glad to have you on the good side. I'm always disappointed that so many people have never played (or even heard of...) visual novels. I guess either too stupid to find them or too intimidated by reading? lol
Also L> for moar discussion. I made this thread because I wanted to introduce SP to a unique, fun and free VN so that we could all discuss it, share our thoughts, progress and have a generally merry time.
Prompt: Thoughts on Misha's disability? There's no right or wrong answer at this point.
Hm, Misha's disability is a though one to guess. Maybe she has a milder arrhythmia or maybe she is blind in one eye. I'll think of some more ridiculous theories and get back to you.
JoeTang
2009-05-02, 02:43 AM
My first guess was that she had ADHD or OCD. Some sort of personality disorder. Explains why she's always signing. Anyways. I got Emi end. FUCKING HNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG THE MOST ADORABLE PUPPY DOG EYES I HAVE EVER SEEN, ETC. Anticlimactic though. Will attempt Lilly get later.
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 02:46 AM
My first guess was that she had ADHD or OCD. Some sort of personality disorder. Explains why she's always signing. Anyways. I got Emi end. pineappleING HNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG THE MOST ADORABLE PUPPY DOG EYES I HAVE EVER SEEN, ETC. Anticlimactic though. Will attempt Lilly get later.
SRS. I was like, WHAT THE HELL? Ending: Hisao goes to sleep.
.......
Anyway, the general consensus with Misha is that it's some type of mental disability. I agree; I just have no idea what. She's not mentally retarded. And what's with the "dizzy on stairs" comment? I haven't even seen it yet in game. Is it real? If so, wat.
Ok, now I've got time.
Here are my thoughts and possible spoilers:
- First of all, Misha does say she gets dizzy when going upstairs. When you are already IN the school council, Misha tells you to fetch a couple of things for her, and after you answer why doesn't she instead, she tells you that she has this problem. So, getting dizzy, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizziness), means that she suffers of vertigo, disequilibrium or somewhat. Another theory I thought of is partial blindness, but that's already been brought up.
- The ending in which you are drinking whiskey with Kenji and you suicide is the most badass ever.
- Lilly is sooooooooooo adorable. She's too coloquial and correct that I want to hug her and kiss her already. The particular scene where Shizune and Lilly start arguing and gets out of control is extremely funny.
- I don't seem to want to get close to Hanako... I'm scared of her. (inb4Felixtrollsme).
- I was so disappointed at Emi's ending too! I expected that after having a heart attack for racing her, there would be something better than a picnic with her and Rin. What doesn't mean at all that I don't like them. That particular line where they say that they're perfect complementing each other and that Emi dresses her up every morning gave me a boner. And btw, I love the scene where Rin is eating with her feet. SO SEXY.
That's moreless all. I still want to give Hanako a try, but someone needs to convince me.
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 06:16 PM
Ok, now I've got time.
Here are my thoughts and possible spoilers:
- First of all, Misha does say she gets dizzy when going upstairs. When you are already IN the school council, Misha tells you to fetch a couple of things for her, and after you answer why doesn't she instead, she tells you that she has this problem. So, getting dizzy, according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dizziness), means that she suffers of vertigo, disequilibrium or somewhat. Another theory I thought of is partial blindness, but that's already been brought up.
- The ending in which you are drinking whiskey with Kenji and you suicide is the most badass ever.
- Lilly is sooooooooooo adorable. She's too coloquial and correct that I want to hug her and kiss her already. The particular scene where Shizune and Lilly start arguing and gets out of control is extremely funny.
- I don't seem to want to get close to Hanako... I'm scared of her. (inb4Felixtrollsme).
- I was so disappointed at Emi's ending too! I expected that after having a heart attack for racing her, there would be something better than a picnic with her and Rin. What doesn't mean at all that I don't like them. That particular line where they say that they're perfect complementing each other and that Emi dresses her up every morning gave me a boner. And btw, I love the scene where Rin is eating with her feet. SO SEXY.
That's moreless all. I still want to give Hanako a try, but someone needs to convince me.
RAGING LIKE THE FIST OF THE NORTH STAR. How can you not like Hanako?? Shy girls are the best. And she's really insecure, so it's like getting the chance to be the person to let her know she's still beautiful. ;_; Then she will love you passionately. You get to play chess with her at the end. How is that not awesome? DO IT.
Don't give me any crap. JUST DO IT!
And when you're walking together near the end, she tells you about how she skips certain parts of the floor when walking. It's a little game she plays with herself because she's always lonely/dejected and watching the floor when she walks.
Oh god. ;_;
Vertigo's a good frickin' theory. Plus now I can never unsee Misha in scenes from Vertigo (the movie). LOL Thanks for that awesome visual. If it turns out she really does have vertigo, I demand a Vertigo/Misha parody video/scene. Haha oh wow, FUND IT.
And yeah, I've yet to get the MANLY PICNIC end. I've seen screenshots from it and it looks hilarious. Looking forward to it.
RAGING LIKE THE FIST OF THE NORTH STAR. How can you not like Hanako?? Shy girls are the best. And she's really insecure, so it's like getting the chance to be the person to let her know she's still beautiful. ;_; Then she will love you passionately. You get to play chess with her at the end. How is that not awesome? DO IT.
Don't give me any crap. JUST DO IT!
And when you're walking together near the end, she tells you about how she skips certain parts of the floor when walking. It's a little game she plays with herself because she's always lonely/dejected and watching the floor when she walks.
Oh god. ;_;
Vertigo's a good frickin' theory. Plus now I can never unsee Misha in scenes from Vertigo (the movie). LOL Thanks for that awesome visual. If it turns out she really does have vertigo, I demand a Vertigo/Misha parody video/scene. Haha oh wow, FUND IT.
And yeah, I've yet to get the MANLY PICNIC end. I've seen screenshots from it and it looks hilarious. Looking forward to it.
Maybe the vertigo is why you don't go to the rooftop with Misha and Shizune :f6:.
I thought I was yet to be convinced, your spoiler is the CUTEST dialogue ever. I do it too ;_;
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 06:27 PM
Maybe the vertigo is why you don't go to the rooftop with Misha and Shizune :f6:.
I thought I was yet to be convinced, your spoiler is the CUTEST dialogue ever. I do it too ;_;
And to think you doubted Hanako. You should be ashamed! She's the best girl. Period. I actually do it too... lol
ITT: Ronery.
;_;
I'm gonna start my 3rd play through after I go grab something to eat. Hoping for MANLY PICNIC or Misha/Shizune get this time.
And to think you doubted Hanako. You should be ashamed! She's the best girl. Period. I actually do it too... lol
ITT: Ronery.
;_;
I'm gonna start my 3rd play through after I go grab something to eat. Hoping for MANLY PICNIC or Misha/Shizune get this time.
If you want to make things easier:
If you want to get to those endings, choose outgoing answers and be loyal to the girls.
FelixTM
2009-05-02, 07:11 PM
If you want to make things easier:
If you want to get to those endings, choose outgoing answers and be loyal to the girls.
Yeah, I was pretty sure I knew how to get the Shizune end by now. I was gonna do: Yes to self-introduction, Aggressive move in Risk and take their side in the Lilly/Shizune conflict. The 3-choice question during lunch with Misha/Shizune, however, I dunno. I suppose ask about Shizune's deafness? I've done that one before, though, and it does (seemingly) nothing. I asked about the library my first time because I thought it'd lead to Hanako (which I did get my first time). What does the final choice do ("I think I got everything I need to know")?
Anyway, starting now.
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Oh, HO! I remember now. I forgot about this decision because it didn't appear in my 2nd play through. It must not become an option unless you play aggressively in Risk (or do the self-introduction? but I don't think that question really affects the game much). It seems to be the main factor in branching off towards Shizune or towards Hanako/Lilly.
Wait for Misha and Shizune to come to a decision.
Read my book.
I did the latter the first time. And I never got that question at all my 2nd time. I guess it's what really starts you down the Shizune route. Doing it now!
Oh, and I'll add that I picked the 3rd option on that lunch question this time. It seems to make Misha and Shizune happy. Choosing "Ask about Shizune's deafness" does nothing because he feels too awkward/nervous to actually ask about it.
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FFFFFFFFFFFFF- Yuuko works at the tea cafe place too? What the hell?! I hate her enough as the librarian. GAH.
This is awesome. I love how every time I play it's almost like a completely new story. I'm surprised (again) by how different the Misha/Shizune route is. Like spending the day missing class with them, instead of wondering where they were. It even makes you miss the conversation with Muto about what to do. Interesting.
Just joined the student council. Wooo It sucked having to be mean to Lilly...again. This route is actually quite a bit of fun, regardless. I find myself liking Misha a lot more than Shizune, though. I imagine Shizune probably takes on an adorable tsundere relationship with Hisao if you pursue her, but still. Misha's much more attractive.
LOL oh god. Misha/Shizune invade Hisao's room. I had to pause at this new decision when Misha asks about my meds.
Try to dodge the subject
Kick them out of my room
AWESOME. This is like the decision that appeared on the Emi route (Run faster or slow down). I might have to play a couple more times to see the different responses to the different answers. Quite amazing how thorough Chapter 1 is, with a surprising number of different scenarios/scenes.
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Okay, sweet. Finished my 3rd complete play through. I definitely have to say that one was interesting. It seemed to be the most "selfish" route, in that almost all of it was spent with Misha/Shizune. In Hanako's route, I spent a considerable amount of time with nearly every girl (some more than others, but not the point), until the end. I thought the ending was nice. The fireworks were quite well done, and it made me like Shizune a bit more. Though what happened to Misha? She was up on the roof with them too, but it was like she wasn't there. Was she just watching the fireworks away from them? I thought it was sweet how Hisao was talking to Shizune about wanting to date her, knowing she couldn't hear him...but how did Misha not overhear that? WHERE WAS SHE. lol Overall, I will say it's the best Chapter 1 ending because it's the only one where Hisao admits to falling in love already.
Now I have 92% complete. Missing 4 scenes and 1 song. I also noticed something VERY odd (possible glitch). After my first play through, in my Extras' Library, I noticed I had both Hanako's and Lilly's ending scene. I didn't pay any attention to it. But now that I've realized their name only fills in when you get their ending scene, I decided to watch Lilly's...since I know I haven't gotten it yet. Sure enough, I had never seen that ending before. Why does it say I have it unlocked? I should have had only Hanako's, Emi's and Shizune's at this point. Meh. Regardless, I think I will still try to achieve Lilly's ending legitly.
And that also leaves Rin's end and MANLY PICNIC. Goodness this is a fun VN. Crazy how much content there is in just Chapter 1. I am impressed and pleased.
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k, found someone that has already made a Chapter 1 route map:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/43/ksroutes.png
Looking over it, though, I've found you do NOT have to follow those listed routes exactly to achieve the desired ending scene. For example, I achieved Hanako's route by picking some different answers as listed. You just have to answer a certain way on the questions that really matter. The first question in the game is completely worthless, from what I've found.
And looks like I was right about how to get Rin's end. I figured as much after playing my 2nd time, since Emi and Rin are so close. I figured if I answer "Take it easy" when running with her I'd start to move towards Rin rather than Emi. Now I just gotta try it.
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Okay, yeah. After thoroughly looking over that route map and considering everything I've experienced in my three complete play throughs, I've found this game is definitely quite loose with your responses. Which is impressive because it really makes what'd you think happen, happen. There's not really any "set in stone" routes in Chapter 1. For example, you could still have the heart attack while running with Emi and end up with Shizune, depending on the earlier and approaching choices. That means there's MANY different ways to achieve endings. It's surprisingly realistic. And I think it's safe to say the first 4-5 (at least first 3) questions don't have ANY effect besides changing some dialogue.
Oh...and, how long am I going to keep talking with myself I wonder? No one to discuss things with ever. ;_;
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k so I couldn't resist playing more tonight. Decided to use Skip Mode now, though. I've been playing through it all manually previously, all three times. Now I'm just gonna use Skip to move to the decisions and get the rest of my missing scenes. Found the MANLY PICNIC end first.
OH MY GOD.
That was the most hilarious and depressing ending EVER. I didn't realize this game had a BAD END built in. Hisao dies.
Yeah, seriously. He falls off the roof and dies. I didn't think you literally meant suicide. haha I imagine if you take this route in the finished game it just ends here. Unless he survived that fall? And the SPLAT sound? If he survives (highly doubt), this route would have Hisao even more crippled.
Wow.
Missing 3 scenes and I have all the songs now.
Beaner
2009-05-02, 11:57 PM
wtf dies?
no wonder the chapter is called life expentancy. brb gonna get the death ending somehow
FelixTM
2009-05-03, 12:11 AM
wtp dies?
no wonder the chapter is called life expentancy. brb gonna get the death ending somehow
WOOO Finally I can stop that legendary length post of TALKING TO MYSELF. I've been using Skip mode to race to each decision and try answering as many different combinations as possible. I've found it's quite easy to get the BAD END. All you gotta do is work your way towards one of the females and get really close to them. And then, when the final decision comes on their route, pick the RUDE choice. After that, Hisao gets depressed and ends up with Kenji at the MANLY PICNIC. I've achieved it by getting close to Misha/Shizune and then kicking them out of my room and by getting close to Lilly and then refusing to tell her about my heart condition. Both of those result in BAD END.
By doing all this, I've also noticed you can create some really weird scenarios. Like get close to Misha/Shizune, have tea with them, join the student council, but then kick them out of your room and end your relationship with them. For some reason after that, it triggers the walking to town with Lilly scene (which doesn't normally happen unless you've been working towards Lilly). Normally the question about your heart condition would come up at the end of your walk back to school. However, in this odd case, it doesn't, since you've been rude to Lilly previously. After that...BAD END.
It's quite twisted all the different ways you can mash the scenes together and affect what decisions you get to make. You can change the dialogue that appears during scenes, too, in some cases. Gotta read really close to catch it sometimes.
Gonna do Rin's route now finally and should achieve 100%. If I'm still missing a scene after that, FRICK. lol
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Rin's end is awesome. Much better than I expected. Rin is so strange, yet I find myself really liking her. They just spent the entire day together...doing nothing, until they fell asleep on each other and the fireworks started and woke them up. I enjoyed it. One of the other scenes I was missing, Creative Pain, revealed a character I hadn't seen before too. Nomiya, the art teacher. He is really funny looking. haha
However...DANGIT. I am still missing ONE scene. 98% completion. What on earth? It's the scene after Home Field Advantage. Anyone have? How2find? I guess there's still one question I haven't tried the other answer to yet. And maybe it's on the legit path to Lilly's end? I gotta try!
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Lol that was easier than I thought. I found the scene by following the suggested route to the BAD END on that route map. There's SO many ways to achieve that ending, which is surprising...since it's by far the worst result. Anyway, the scene was "Slow Recovery" and it even presents a decision I've never seen before. Misha asks where Hisao was after his heart attack from running with Emi. The choice I made resulted in him telling Misha and Shizune to piss off.
...yeah. Now there's that decision and the one in the Rin route I have to try the other answer to to see what happens. And it looks I DO have to achieve the Lilly ending manually, even though it says I have it unlocked. It's counting it towards my completion (I have 100% now), but it hasn't given me the final Gallery image (the 100% image; I've seen it before on /a/). Gonna do Lilly's end, those alternative answers and then I'll be all done with the game, completely.
brb.
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Whoa. I didn't think there was any new decisions possible, but I was wrong. This scenario is really strange. I ended up joining student council AND running with Emi the second time. If you answer "Don't want to talk about it" (or w/e) to Misha when she's asking where you were after your heart attack with Emi, it will bring up a new dilemma: Eat with Emi? Eat with Shizune? Since you've managed to get close to both girls in this scenario, the game actually makes you choose which ending to get at this point. lol Cool.
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Awesomeee! Confirmed that glitch. Something is up with the Lilly ending. It improperly unlocks itself if you do Hanako's ending first. But trust me, even if the game says you have Lilly's ending, make sure you do it manually too. For some reason, the game doesn't record one scene (the one where you have tea with Lilly and her sister) and it's a MUST see. Lilly's sister, Akira, is a delicious reverse trap. OMG. I can't believe I almost passed up seeing her. However, (thankfully), even though it's possible to get 100% by doing all endings except Lilly's, the game won't give you the 100% completion image until you get 100% in the Extras' Library AND view the Akira scene.
So now I've done it all. Viewed every possible scene, unlocked all CGs and songs and read all possible dialogue. 100% completion, period. After I go play MS for a bit, I'll do a write up of my opinions and summaries of all possible routes/endings.
Look forward to it!
FelixTM
2009-05-03, 04:49 AM
Excuse the double post, but I don't wanna make another massive write up and have it attached to my previously massive post. lol I will attach everything I make in this post to the OP too, for easy access later.
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Conclusion/Summaries/Final Opinions of Katawa Shoujo after 100% completion:
My favorite girl from the beginning and still my favorite girl after the end. However, I grew to love some of the other girls very much too--almost as much as Hanako.
Hanako's route is fairly straight forward. She's much different than the other girls and keeps to herself extremely. To start Hanako's route, make sure you say you think she's cute (or ask Misha/Shizune about the library).
By saying you think Hanako is cute, you'll later feel bad about scaring her off during your first meeting in the library. You'll be prompted to go talk with Hanako during class. If you choose to, you're basically deciding you do, indeed, want to pursue either Hanako or Lilly. If you want to back off those girls, do so now and choose to read your book instead (or wait for Misha/Shizune to come a decision if you chose to play aggressively earlier). By talking with Hanako, you'll end up going to have tea with Lilly and Hanako for lunch. It really bonds you much closer to both girls, though Hanako is still very shy.
After this, your life will basically revolve completely around Hanako and Lilly. You'll still meet the other girls and spend some time with them, but you won't get close to any of them. Hanako will wonder where Lilly is and you'll accompany her to the blind classroom. Then you'll help Lilly out by helping Kenji finish his banner along with Hanako. Much more glorious bonding is had.
The next major thing in this route is going to town with Lilly. You'll have a great time and bond with her while you help her shop. It's very sweet. After a random encounter with Rin, Lilly will become concerned about your heavy breathing. By telling her you're not in very good condition, she'll learn of your heart problem and become very adorably concerned about you. Don't be afraid to admit you're not in good condition; avoiding this matter will not be pretty.
Next comes the big decision: When you're in class the next day, you have to figure out how to kill some time. Head to town and meet with Lilly? Or follow Hanako to the library? It's obvious what to do here. Want Lilly? Go to town? Want Hanako? Go to the library. By following Hanako to the library, you'll end up reading together and sharing an awkwardly cute bonding moment. This is all you'll need to achieve the quickly approaching Hanako end.
On the final day, at the festival, you'll meet Lilly attending her class' booth. You'll order some food and chat with her. She'll wonder where Hanako is, but she'll be too busy to leave the stand. You'll then go and look for Hanako by yourself. Sure enough, you find her in the library (what a rebel ;_;). After some chatting, you end up going to a private room to spend some time with her. On your way there, you see Hanako walking kind of funny. She reveals a silly little game she plays with herself when she's walking alone: She avoids the darker colored parts of the floors (d'awwww). When you get to the room, she suggests playing chess. The Hanako Chapter 1 route comes to an end after one game of chess and deciding to play another!
<3
Lilly's Chapter 1 route doesn't differ very much from Hanako's. Read the above spoiler for much more information. I'll just add the unique parts here.
Be sure to take Lilly's side during the argument between Lilly and Shizune!
When deciding what to do to kill time on the day before the festival, choosing to go to town will result in you finding Lilly inside the tea cafe (Shanghai). Inside, you'll meet Akira, Lilly's sister. Akira dresses and looks very male-ish (she's delicious, I promise). After sitting and listening to them chat, Akira will leave and you'll chat with Lilly for a while. This will be all you need to achieve the quickly approaching Lilly end.
On the final day, at the festival, you'll meet Lilly at her class' booth and order some food. However, this time, she will be able to find some help to take over for her. She will accompany you in your search for Hanako. After finding Hanako in the library, you, Lilly and Hanako will watch the beautiful fireworks at the festival's closing. Lilly is happy and sad the festival is coming to an end, but you comfort her by placing your hand on her shoulder. Much d'awwwing is had as you look forward to having tea with Hanako and Lilly every day from now on.
<3
I didn't like Shizune at all at first, as she comes off really bossy/stuck up. However, Misha is sexy (although kinda wacky and slow) and is always around Shizune, so that's cool. I did grow to like Shizune more after experiencing her Chapter 1 route, too.
You first meet Shizune and Misha on your first day of class. Blah blah. You eat lunch together. They ask you questions. Blah blah. They bring up the idea of you joining student council. They pick on you. Blah blah. After playing a game of Risk with them, you tell them you'll think about joining--maybe. Make sure you play aggressively during Risk to keep their interest in you growing.
The next day in class Shizune and Misha will be arguing about where to eat. If you decide to wait for them to decide, you'll end up going with them to the tea cafe (Shanghai) for lunch. Much fun is had as Misha and Shizune reveal their trickery in getting you to skip class, nearly forcing you to join the student council to get out of the future trouble!
After class, you help the girls get some items for their festival work. After meeting the rest of the girls and lots of random stuff, the next day brings a conflict between Lilly and Shizune. Be sure to care only about yourself and not bother defending Lilly too. Since you said you're a capable guy, Shizune and Misha will trap you into helping them build booths for the festival for the rest of the day. Once it's night and you're all done, you'll agree to join the student council!
The next morning, Misha and Shizune will come to your dorm to pick you up (more like prevent you from running away) and invade your room. Oh noes. Be sure to just try dodging the subject when they ask you about your heart meds. Do not kick them out! After helping the girls finish up festival stuff, the day goes pretty quiet and night comes quickly.
The next morning they invade your dorm again (!) and get you to come have tea with them another time. After spending some time with them there and engaging in a battle of wits with Shizune, you'll be forced to find your way back to school alone...only to end up working more when you get back. You spend all day bonding and helping again. Your reward: take out food! YES. Oh yeah, and because you lost the battle earlier, you had to agree to attend the festival tomorrow!
On the final day, the girls will pick you up and take you to the festival. You spend the entire day eating food, chatting and playing games. You win Shizune a cute kitty doll, even! Aww. Shizune's Chapter 1 route ends atop the roof, watching the fireworks and realizing you are starting to love her.
<3
Emi is veeery short and extremely cute. However, I didn't like her much at first because I knew she was the athletic one. I changed my mind after experiencing her route, as well. Isn't it crazy how lovable all the women are?
Your first encounter with Emi is always her running into you and causing you to almost die. f3 You'll see her again after finally listening to the Nurse and going running with Emi in the morning. After a failtacular performance, you'll wonder why the hell you'd want to keep running! But if you promise the Nurse you'll keep at it, you'll go running with Emi a second time. You can either choose to be a MAN and race Emi or back off. If you race her, you will trigger a minor heart attack and nearly die (lolfail). Emi will be super scared and take you to the Nurse. After a dual-scolding, Emi promises to treat you to lunch atop the roof later.
You can end up having lunch with Emi and Rin atop the roof in a number of ways, but you won't be able to stay on Emi's route unless you proved your merit by racing her. So be sure to almost kill yourself for her!
The next notable experience with Emi comes during a state of boredom, wondering what you should do. Emi intercepts you and makes you help her and Rin paint. You go with Emi to get some supplies from the art classroom. When you get back, Rin demands some Prussian Blue! You and Emi head back up to get it, and then she confronts you with her plan for your well-being! She makes you agree to run with her every morning from now on and stay on a strict meal plan. Her concern is so cute.
On the final day, at the festival, Emi basically rapes all your fun and prevents you from eating any good food. ;_; Emi's Chapter 1 route ends VERY boringly by you agreeing to run with her in the morning...so you head off to bed early.
COME ON...I mean...<3
I didn't know how to feel about Rin in the beginning. I learned she's frickin' crazy, which is cool...but she's like REALLY mellow and lives in her own world. But after experiencing her route, I think she's actually just hiding a lot of love inside her.
You first meet Rin when Misha (or Misha/Shizune, depending) gets you to fetch some supplies from the art room. Rin is all alone inside, eating a meal during the afternoon. A hilarious conversation ensues where you learn she likes knowing about people's disabilities. You also discover she's crazy right away. Awesome.
If you wanna get on Rin's route, make sure you never get close to any other girl. Don't show any interest in the library or Shizune, don't think Hanako is cute, play defensively in Risk, avoid going to lunch with any other girls, don't stick up for Lilly during the conflict and don't race Emi. However, make sure you tell Lilly about your heart condition (you don't wanna be a complete douchebag). Since you haven't gotten even kinda close to any girl besides Emi and Lilly, when helping Emi and Rin paint, you won't accompany Emi up to fetch Prussian Blue. You'll stay with Rin and watch her paint. This is the true beginning of the Rin story. Yeah, it's the hardest to get to. What a picky woman.
After watching Rin paint for a while, the art teacher, Nomiya, will show up and ask you what the hell you're doing (basically, lol). Make sure you express your interest in the art club if you wish to be with Rin! If you're a f'ag this late in the game, bad things will happen. Nomiya is happy, Rin doesn't care...and then you spend the entire day watching Rin paint. You also learn she's on her period. I'm not even kidding.
On the final day, at the festival, you meet Rin at her now finished (and incredible) mural. Her legs are seriously hurt from painting all day, so she can't really move and just chills there. You decide to just...chill there with her...all day. Yeah. You just stand there. Chilling. A little bit of pointless discussion, and then you fall asleep. You wake up to the sound of fireworks and Rin sleeping on you (aww). After a bit she wakes up too and you share an insightful conversation. You part ways kinda wondering what just happened, but hopeful for your future with Rin and the art club, nonetheless.
Kind of <3, I guess.
Yeah, this game does have a BAD END, believe it or not.
If you're a complete and total douche to every girl every chance you get, you'll achieve this terrible (but absolutely hilarious) ending with Kenji. It's quite easy to achieve and can be done with many different answers. However, just make sure you're a douche where it matters and you're crystal.
On the final day, you agree to meet Kenji atop the roof to have a MANLY PICNIC. This of course means a picnic between men...with whiskey. Lots of it. You two discuss how women are evil while getting trashed. It all comes to a crashing halt when you fall off the roof in your drunken stupor and die.
Yep, say hello to the beautiful and bloody SPLAT BAD END of Katawa Shoujo. Enjoy being a dead douchebag, you f'ag.
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Obviously I left a TON of stuff out, but those summaries were just to give you the main idea and key events during all girl's Chapter 1 route end. Be sure to play them all if you want to experience every detail. If I left anything important out that you feel should be added, let me know. And if I made any mistakes, definitely let me know.
Hanako = read books and play chess with Hanako away from everyone else during the festival. Very cute ending, though lacks the power the others do. It will be insanely boring to anyone who doesn't like Hanako. I really liked it, but I guess honestly all it achieves is setting up Hanako route for Chapter 2.
Lilly = meet her sister (Akira), search for Hanako together and watch the fireworks as you look forward to spending more time with her. Very sweet ending, but mainly sets up Lilly route for Chapter 2.
Shizune = join student council, do a buttload of helping for festival, spend festival playing games and eating, finish the day by watching fireworks with Shizune and realizing you love her. Most powerful ending. I would say the best ending because it did much more than just set up the Shizune Chapter 2 route.
Emi = agree to run with her every morning and eat healthy foods, festival ends early because you agree to get up early and run with her. Worst ending by far. Lacks any power, just sets up Emi route for Chapter 2.
Rin = watch her paint, meet art teacher (Nomiya), join art club, spend festival with her standing by her mural, watch fireworks together. Interesting end, though kind of boring. Mainly sets up Rin route for Chapter 2.
BAD END = you die, alone and a douchebag. Need I say more?
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/43/ksroutes.png
Thanks to the Anon that posted/made it.
By choosing those answers to questions, you are guaranteed to achieve your desired girl's ending. However, keep in mind not all questions are vital to staying on a girl's route. You can answer differently to some and it won't matter. Just use your brain and pick answers you know your girl will like, and you should be golden.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2253/ksakira.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/287/ksnomiya.jpg
The first one is Lilly's sister, Akira. You will only see her if you achieve the Lilly ending. The second one is the art teacher, Nomiya. You only see him if you achieve the Rin ending. They're characters that have a VERY small role in Chapter 1, so I thought I'd show put them here for easy access.
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6457/ksfinal1.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1747/ksfinal2.jpg
That's the final image in the Extras' Gallery. You will earn it by getting 100% completion and viewing the Akira scene (only on the Lilly route).
Closing remarks: Incredible visual novel. After just Chapter 1, I can safely say it's one of the best VNs I've ever played. It may not have the absolutely professional quality of mainstream Japanese VNs, but it's an amazing work, especially considering it was started as a project on /a/. I will DEFINITELY play the game again when the full version is released. And I will achieve 100% in EVERY chapter, no matter what. It's so worth it.
There are many unique ways to achieve the endings, and it's very fun to see how answering different to the multitude of questions affects the dialogue and the appearance of the numerous scenes. Have fun and be sure to get that 100% completion. It's absolutely worth it!
10/10.
Beaner
2009-05-03, 10:57 AM
why emi has legs on that final image?
FelixTM
2009-05-03, 12:02 PM
why emi has legs on that final image?
They're her different pair of prosthetics. She has her running ones and normal ones. She uses them once during the story.
I'm currently working on a massive, much more thorough route map for Chapter 1. I should have it completed sometime this afternoon. When I finish up version1, I'll post it here and ask for help fixing it up, adding missed routes and suggestions.
Look forward to it! lol
JoeTang
2009-05-03, 01:05 PM
fffffffffffffffffffffff thighhighs brb fappan
FelixTM
2009-05-03, 02:10 PM
fffffffffffffffffffffff thighhighs brb fappan
Delicious indeed.
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OKAY, GUYS. AFTER 4 HOURS, I'M READY TO POST V1 OF MY KS COMPLETE ROUTE MAP. I kinda rushed near the end, just so I could get a copy out finally.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9951/ksroutemap.jpg
Want I want from you guys:
Comments
How to IMPROVE it
Mistakes I made
Routes I could add (I'm talking anything and everything, boys; if I'm missing a Possible Way to Access, I want it added)
Did I miss ANY potential question sets?
How to IMPROVE it
Thank you. Now I'm gonna start revising more thoroughly and experimenting with more possible routes. There's a lot more to be added to make this 100% perfect yet. I want some help.
LET'S FINISH THIS TOGETHER.
Post all that you feel and find.
Edit: V2 up already. Fixed minor text things and line corrections.
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Well, the general consensus seems to be that it's too confusing. I thought up this way because I tried simplifying it...I guess that backfired? Instead of doing all the possible links, I got to the core branch areas and then listed the combos to jump into the ending sets.
Ah well. It was a fun way to waste time today. Maybe there's still hope for it later.
So... I can't wait to be in front of a computer so I guess I'll just post from my blackberry. Format is crappy.
Well, I managed to get 100% now. I SO loved rin's ending. It was pretty lovely to fall asleep and get up with rin over you... Very romantic scene. The only thing I found a little annoying was her tangents. I mean... She went off wondering stuff. Like when she's talking about her mural (awesome mural by the way), the creators make her personality too biased towards what people usually thinks about artists. That they're very careless and philosophical?(due to lack of a better word).
Another totally different thing was hanako's ending. I am very ashamed that I doubted following her route. She is so cute! Not that there was too much dialogue between hisao and her, but some of her silences were pretty nice and enjoyable. In particular the scene in where you and her are at the library and hisao finds himself inside a twister of thoughts. Lilly also helped overall making scenes soft and comfortable.
Second thoughts: u want to share the theory of an approach to misha in chapter 2. Me thinks that at some point misha's thoughts will start to mix with shizune's, getting her confused about what does she feel for hisao. Some kind of jealousy or something. Or getting trouble translating shizune's feelings and those mixing with hers. I don't know if my point is clear though.
Another guess is that you could have an option during chapter 2 that leads to misha teaching you sign language, falling in love with you in the process.
Another another theory xD, is that is very likely that rin and you end up painting together in the art club. Or you end up mastering another type of art while you compete with this blind guy rin talks about, trying to make her love you.
Another thing I'd like to see is if there's any way to get hooked with akira somehow. That'd be awesome. I know that Lilly or hanako, I don't really remember, say that akira is not available, but who cares? She looks so hot in a suit.
I have some more ideas, just give me some time to round them up.
Sorry for double post, but I forgot to point out that your summary was pretty neat Felix. I would love having one of these once the VN is fully released.
FelixTM
2009-05-04, 12:38 AM
Second thoughts: u want to share the theory of an approach to misha in chapter 2. Me thinks that at some point misha's thoughts will start to mix with shizune's, getting her confused about what does she feel for hisao. Some kind of jealousy or something. Or getting trouble translating shizune's feelings and those mixing with hers. I don't know if my point is clear though.
Another guess is that you could have an option during chapter 2 that leads to misha teaching you sign language, falling in love with you in the process.
Another another theory xD, is that is very likely that rin and you end up painting together in the art club. Or you end up mastering another type of art while you compete with this blind guy rin talks about, trying to make her love you.
Another thing I'd like to see is if there's any way to get hooked with akira somehow. That'd be awesome. I know that Lilly or hanako, I don't really remember, say that akira is not available, but who cares? She looks so hot in a suit.
I have some more ideas, just give me some time to round them up.
I'm hoping for a threesome end, honestly. But the game seems to want to force us with Shizune too much. I'd SO much rather have just Misha if I had to choose. I can definitely see her ending up helping you learn sign. I find it a little hard to believe she wouldn't end up getting jealous, though... That just seems typical, but who knows.
Yeah I dunno what was up with that blind art guy. Rin talks about him so much I almost felt she had a crush on him. However, she's also just really strange. Perhaps he merely intrigues her and that's all. She seemed interested enough in Hisao by the end. At least kind of curious of the thought. Only thing that disappoints me about a future Rin route is having to see more of Nomiya.
Akira end is not gonna happen. She's taken, like Lilly said. I bet Akira will play a big role in getting with Lilly though. Like something happens to Akira, you help out, Lilly is forever grateful, etc. Or Akira finds out you're interested in Lilly (or vice versa) and helps bring you together. I can see them using her a lot in the Lilly route, since she's so important to Lilly.
I also read that one of the writers says no way full version will be released quarter 1 of 2009. So maybe they're still planning on later this year? I know they have a great deal of it done already. *fingers crossed, always*
Bleh @ my map... It was a fun experiment, but I think it came out too worthless for the general public. Maybe I can make something useful later. :/
i'm hoping for a threesome end, honestly. But the game seems to want to force us with Shizune too much. I'd SO much rather have just Misha if I had to choose. I can definitely see her ending up helping you learn sign. I find it a little hard to believe she wouldn't end up getting jealous, though... That just seems typical, but who knows.
Yeah I dunno what was up with that blind art guy. Rin talks about him so much I almost felt she had a crush on him. However, she's also just really strange. Perhaps he merely intrigues her and that's all. She seemed interested enough in Hisao by the end. At least kind of curious of the thought. Only thing that disappoints me about a future Rin route is having to see more of Nomiya.
Akira end is not gonna happen. She's taken, like Lilly said. I bet Akira will play a big role in getting with Lilly though. Like something happens to Akira, you help out, Lilly is forever grateful, etc. Or Akira finds out you're interested in Lilly (or vice versa) and helps bring you together. I can see them using her a lot in the Lilly route, since she's so important to Lilly.
I also read that one of the writers says no way full version will be released quarter 1 of 2009. So maybe they're still planning on later this year? I know they have a great deal of it done already. *fingers crossed, always*
Bleh @ my map... It was a fun experiment, but I think it came out too worthless for the general public. Maybe I can make something useful later. :/
Yeah, it's kind of disappointing to wait but I really hope they release it this year. Likely to happen because it would frustrate a lot of people to be teased like this and wait for over a year to finish what you started.
I agree a lot that akira will take a major role in chapter 2 (or 3? Is more than 2 or 3 chapters planned?).
A couple more funky thoughts:
It would be cool and plot twisting to get in real good shape and compete along with emi at some kind of competition... Highly unlikely I guess anyway.
Also, what's up with hanako's left eye? Does she have it? Or the fire that left the scars left her without an eye too?
And finally... Wouldn't you kill for a scene in which emi is dressing rin up?
FelixTM
2009-05-04, 01:07 AM
Yeah, it's kind of disappointing to wait but I really hope they release it this year. Likely to happen because it would frustrate a lot of people to be teased like this and wait for over a year to finish what you started.
I agree a lot that akira will take a major role in chapter 2 (or 3? Is more than 2 or 3 chapters planned?).
A couple more funky thoughts:
It would be cool and plot twisting to get in real good shape and compete along with emi at some kind of competition... Highly unlikely I guess anyway.
Also, what's up with hanako's left eye? Does she have it? Or the fire that left the scars left her without an eye too?
And finally... Wouldn't you kill for a scene in which emi is dressing rin up?
I'm almost 100% certain more than two chapters are planned. Seeing how long their chapter 1 was, I would guess 3-5 chapters total in full version. 6+ would be ridiculous with chapters of this caliber. Unless, of course, they decide to start making shorter chapters.
lol Can't see the Emi competition thing happening. Hisao is like...screwed for any kind of taxing physical activity. It will be good to see Emi get him into better shape, though. With her route, I'm predicting a health problem will help bring them together, like his first minor heart attack with her did. Or maybe that's gonna happen in nearly every route...who knows. I'd be willing to bet they're gonna make his condition quite a key factor in bonding eventually.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Hanako has both eyes. In the 100% image you can see both of them. In game her scarring looks much worse, so I guess we'll have to wait to find out. At worst, I'd say there's just scarring over it and it either didn't affect her vision at all or made her blind in that eye.
I would kill for a LOT of scenes. ;_; Looking forward to the sex scenes like crazy.
Yeah, it could use some fap scenes. I've only seen shizune's panties so far. What a teaser.
Now that you brought it up, I think they will stick to hisao's condition a lot. Like a very dangerous attack or something. I bet you can perfectly picture a scene where all the girls gather and get worried at the nursery. >:3 haha, oh wow.
And, so I was reading today... Dizziness is a symptom of ear problems... Has any of that something to do with misha? I wonder, why would they make misha's condition so unnoticeable?
Anyway, last thing I guess I can come up with tonite... There should be a 'player' route, in which you get the better ending, like that ganguro girl game, and some heavy hentai scenes come into action involving all the girls... Oh, what am I dreaming... That's asking too much.
FelixTM
2009-05-04, 02:06 AM
Yeah, it could use some fap scenes. I've only seen shizune's panties so far. What a teaser.
Now that you brought it up, I think they will stick to hisao's condition a lot. Like a very dangerous attack or something. I bet you can perfectly picture a scene where all the girls gather and get worried at the nursery. >:3 haha, oh wow.
And, so I was reading today... Dizziness is a symptom of ear problems... Has any of that something to do with misha? I wonder, why would they make misha's condition so unnoticeable?
Anyway, last thing I guess I can come up with tonite... There should be a 'player' route, in which you get the better ending, like that ganguro girl game, and some heavy hentai scenes come into action involving all the girls... Oh, what am I dreaming... That's asking too much.
Back to the Misha disability discussion. A few things I found after 100% was that whatever "dizzy" problem Misha has is a load of BS or she's getting help when we can't see it. Things I noticed:
A) She's constantly going up and down stairs.
Yeah, she's usually with Shizune when she does it, so maybe Shizune helps her get up and down. Remember how they made Hisao go up to the art room to get supplies? Misha said she couldn't go do it 'cause stairs make her dizzy. AND YET, Misha ends up coming up there anyway because you're taking too long. That led me to believe the dizzy stuff was just BS because they wanted you to get the stuff (typical females, etc).
B) She went up to the roof all by herself.
In the Shizune end, Misha stayed behind to get drinks or food or w/e it was again. She came up to the ROOF of the building all by herself (unless some random person helped her up?). Her "dizziness" can't be that bad, and if that's the case, it surely wouldn't warrant her being at that school.
Conclusion: We still know nothing about Misha's disability.
They're making it so unnoticeable because, supposedly, it's going to be a huge plot factor in Chapter 2. They don't want the goods spoiled.
Actually, a harem end has been rumored since the beginning. But I find it VERY unlikely after playing Chapter 1 (especially with the conflict between the girls; it mainly seems to be cliques of two: Rin/Emi, Shizune/Misha (who isn't even a choice) and Hanako/Lilly). Shizune and Lilly flat out hate each other, and Lilly doesn't know what to do around Rin. Shizune doesn't like Hanako, and Hanako doesn't like anyone but Lilly. If they all fell for Hisao, it wouldn't lead to a happy, delicious harem end...no, it'd lead to them killing each other (or Hisao--SCHOOL DAYS END).
JoeTang
2009-05-04, 02:08 AM
Back to the Misha disability discussion. A few things I found after 100% was that whatever "dizzy" problem Misha has is a load of BS or she's getting help when we can't see it. Things I noticed:
A) She's constantly going up and down stairs.
Yeah, she's usually with Shizune when she does it, so maybe Shizune helps her get up and down. Remember how they made Hisao go up to the art room to get supplies? Misha said she couldn't go do it 'cause stairs make her dizzy. AND YET, Misha ends up coming up there anyway because you're taking too long. That led me to believe the dizzy stuff was just BS because they wanted you to get the stuff (typical females, etc).
B) She went up to the roof all by herself.
In the Shizune end, Misha stayed behind to get drinks or food or w/e it was again. She came up to the ROOF of the building all by herself (unless some random person helped her up?). Her "dizziness" can't be that bad, and if that's the case, it surely wouldn't warrant her being at that school.
Conclusion: We still know nothing about Misha's disability.
They're making it so unnoticeable because, supposedly, it's going to be a huge plot factor in Chapter 2. They don't want the goods spoiled.
Actually, a harem end has been rumored since the beginning. But I find it VERY unlikely after playing Chapter 1 (especially with the conflict between the girls; it mainly seems to be cliques of two: Rin/Emi, Shizune/Misha (who isn't even a choice) and Hanako/Lilly). Shizune and Lilly flat out hate each other, and Lilly doesn't know what to do around Rin. Shizune doesn't like Hanako, and Hanako doesn't like anyone but Lilly. If they all fell for Hisao, it wouldn't lead to a happy, delicious harem end...no, it'd lead to them killing each other (or Hisao--SCHOOL DAYS END).
School Days had a harem end route, despite... y'know, NICE BOAT possibilities.
Back to the Misha disability discussion. A few things I found after 100% was that whatever "dizzy" problem Misha has is a load of BS or she's getting help when we can't see it. Things I noticed:
A) She's constantly going up and down stairs.
Yeah, she's usually with Shizune when she does it, so maybe Shizune helps her get up and down. Remember how they made Hisao go up to the art room to get supplies? Misha said she couldn't go do it 'cause stairs make her dizzy. AND YET, Misha ends up coming up there anyway because you're taking too long. That led me to believe the dizzy stuff was just BS because they wanted you to get the stuff (typical females, etc).
B) She went up to the roof all by herself.
In the Shizune end, Misha stayed behind to get drinks or food or w/e it was again. She came up to the ROOF of the building all by herself (unless some random person helped her up?). Her "dizziness" can't be that bad, and if that's the case, it surely wouldn't warrant her being at that school.
Conclusion: We still know nothing about Misha's disability.
They're making it so unnoticeable because, supposedly, it's going to be a huge plot factor in Chapter 2. They don't want the goods spoiled.
Actually, a harem end has been rumored since the beginning. But I find it VERY unlikely after playing Chapter 1 (especially with the conflict between the girls; it mainly seems to be cliques of two: Rin/Emi, Shizune/Misha (who isn't even a choice) and Hanako/Lilly). Shizune and Lilly flat out hate each other, and Lilly doesn't know what to do around Rin. Shizune doesn't like Hanako, and Hanako doesn't like anyone but Lilly. If they all fell for Hisao, it wouldn't lead to a happy, delicious harem end...no, it'd lead to them killing each other (or Hisao--SCHOOL DAYS END).
Conclusion: misha's condition is that she is a b'itch. Lol.
No, seriously, so we should discard the dizziness. Schizophrenia is out, and vertigo too. What a pity. I can't really think of anything more now at 4:30 am, so I might start guessing more tomorrow.
On a side note, what I noticed and expected to have a slightly more active role is the swimming pool, that leaves room for a lot of scenes, both hilarious and fapping ones. It was a huge let down, I love pools :(
FelixTM
2009-05-04, 02:30 AM
On a side note, what I noticed and expected to have a slightly more active role is the swimming pool, that leaves room for a lot of scenes, both hilarious and fapping ones. It was a huge let down, I love pools :(
I think it's safe to say pool scene is guaranteed at some point. They wouldn't have foreshadowed the pool for no reason. Especially since it wasn't even just mentioned once, but TWICE.
Emi's the most likely to end up around the pool, I would think. She's the athletic one, and I'd be interested to see if she has swimming prosthetics too. I can't see Hanako wanting to swim. I don't think Lilly would be the best swimmer. Rin = LOL. And Shizune certainly could, but why would she? Unless there was significance in her/Misha being the first to mention the pool.
I think it's safe to say pool scene is guaranteed at some point. They wouldn't have foreshadowed the pool for no reason. Especially since it wasn't even just mentioned once, but TWICE.
Emi's the most likely to end up around the pool, I would think. She's the athletic one, and I'd be interested to see if she has swimming prosthetics too. I can't see Hanako wanting to swim. I don't think Lilly would be the best swimmer. Rin = LOL. And Shizune certainly could, but why would she? Unless there was significance in her/Misha being the first to mention the pool.
Not to mention having a pool scene with kenji, similar to the bathroom one. That would be f'ucking hilarious.
Lol at how many visits this thread has. There's always people lurking.
FelixTM
2009-05-04, 02:42 AM
Not to mention having a pool scene with kenji, similar to the bathroom one. That would be f'ucking hilarious.
Lol at how many visits this thread has. There's always people lurking.
LOL I'm hoping for a scene where Hisao goes bowling with Kenji too. It's the manliest sport, after all. God, I just want a LOT more Kenji scenes. Just not too many like the MANLY PICNIC. Hilarious, yes...good, NO.
And seriously. What the hell? One time I came in here at like 3 AM and there was EIGHT guests in the thread.
wat
LOL I'm hoping for a scene where Hisao goes bowling with Kenji too. It's the manliest sport, after all. God, I just want a LOT more Kenji scenes. Just not too many like the MANLY PICNIC. Hilarious, yes...good, NO.
And seriously. What the hell? One time I came in here at like 3 AM and there was EIGHT guests in the thread.
wat
Y'know, I think there will be a bad ending for every chapter, dunno if triggered by being a douchebag like in this chapter, but somewhat.
Or we don't even know we'll be able to pick up after the fall from the rooftop so...
K guys, time to get some sleep, but before I thought I would drop this here: which will be the new girl that appears in act 2? Any of hisao's classmates or something totally unseen?
Well, g'night it is then.
xBTAx
2009-05-05, 07:51 PM
Because watching the way you guys talk is hilarious. XD
Seriously, with all the guesswork you're doing, you can't say you didn't expect people to be interested in the thread. ^_^
FelixTM
2009-05-05, 08:31 PM
I thought I would drop this here: which will be the new girl that appears in act 2? Any of hisao's classmates or something totally unseen?
It may not even be a girl. I've only heard they have one character left to make sprites for, and that character wasn't seen in chapter 1. No idea how important he/she is gonna be.
Because watching the way you guys talk is hilarious. XD
Seriously, with all the guesswork you're doing, you can't say you didn't expect people to be interested in the thread. ^_^
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad people are interested in this thread. I wish more people were discussing it with me. I just think it's weird how so many guests view it. Usually guests are lurking here for the MS stuff.
MetaSeraphim
2009-05-05, 08:46 PM
I got through two chapters back when it was released and haven't had time to play it since.
Can't wait to get 100% so I can actually read your posts without anything being spoiled.
I with got through two chapters back when it was released and haven't got to play it since.
Can't wait to get 100% so I can actually read your posts without anything being spoiled.
Just get 100% ASAP. You don't know what you're missing.
Edit: I just googled Katawa Shoujo and SP's thread is in the 3rd page. w00t.
MetaSeraphim
2009-05-05, 11:37 PM
Just get 100% ASAP. You don't know what you're missing.
Edit: I just googled Katawa Shoujo and SP's thread is in the 3rd page. w00t.
I'll try my best good sir. Looking back on my post I totally screwed up the first part, I don't know how that happened.
FelixTM
2009-05-06, 11:53 AM
The biggest downside to having a heart condition:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1631/gonnadie.jpg http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5151/gonnadie2.jpg
SO MOE HISAO IS GONNA DIE--LITERALLY!
JoeTang
2009-05-06, 01:45 PM
The biggest downside to having a heart condition:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1631/gonnadie.jpg http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5151/gonnadie2.jpg
SO MOE HISAO IS GONNA DIE--LITERALLY!
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG
Where's the Emi one? Her puppy dog eyes alone make him do that, lol. Add in an actual puppy FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
mdhyperion
2009-05-13, 04:23 AM
When I was playing this, I kept wondering what was wrong with Misha too. My opinion after seeing all the endings made me thing she had some kind of degenerative hearing or ear disease, which was making her slowly lose her hearing. She always talked louder than everyone else and that's why she learned how to sign so well. Maybe an inner ear problem could also make her dizzy, I dunno. Anyway, this was pretty awesome... all the characters stick with you after you're done.
FelixTM
2009-05-13, 09:30 AM
Anyway, this was pretty awesome... all the characters stick with you after you're done.
I agree completely. That's something I really love about this VN so far.
Anyway, I've found out quite a few things (confirmed) from the ongoing Q & A with the head writer of Katawa Shoujo. Notable confirmations:
- No Misha route
- Hentai scenes in all girls' routes, some more than others
- Some routes have sad ends (or are just sadder in general)
- Routes become more linear after Chapter 1 (obviously, but thank god)
- No other chapters are "finalized" but there's a lot done for all of them
- Next release WILL be the final game, not more individual releases
- Akira will be seen in Lilly's route frequently (YES!)
- At least TWO endings per route (awesome)
- All hentai scenes uncensored for sure
- At least one more female will appear that plays a role in the story (like Akira and Yuuko)
- Adding on to the more linear thing, you can't change routes by Chapter 2...interesting
- Kenji end is confirmed BAD END (it really does end there, with death)
So in summary, it seems like they're going to do a marvelous job with this. Hentai scenes are probably going to be tasteful and work into the story/romance, rather than be simply hardcore, fetish-fulfilling fapfests. But I'm sure they won't disappoint, either. Tons of different endings are confirmed, which is incredible and means I'll be doing many play-throughs.
For those curious, here's the thread:
Q & A with Katawa Shoujo writer on Fakku (http://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=18556)
The future is gonna be sweet.
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Oh yeah, and moar MOE-DEATH:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4243/gonnadie3.png http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6909/gonnadie4.jpg http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1711/gonnadie5.png
I found Emi's hilarious.
JoeTang
2009-05-13, 03:06 PM
Number 5 is fu'cking brilliant.
- No Misha route
- Hentai scenes in all girls' routes, some more than others
- Some routes have sad ends (or are just sadder in general)
- Routes become more linear after Chapter 1 (obviously, but thank god)
- No other chapters are "finalized" but there's a lot done for all of them
- Next release WILL be the final game, not more individual releases
- Akira will be seen in Lilly's route frequently (YES!)
- At least TWO endings per route (awesome)
- All hentai scenes uncensored for sure
- At least one more female will appear that plays a role in the story (like Akira and Yuuko)
- Adding on to the more linear thing, you can't change routes by Chapter 2...interesting
- Kenji end is confirmed BAD END (it really does end there, with death)
Awwwwwwwwwwwww. How come there's no Misha endiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggggg. I'm fu'cking mad right now. So now we can guess who's gonna appear aside of Akira and Yuuko. And I hoped for Hisao to be able to continue after falling off the rooftop, but w/e.
Q & A with Katawa Shoujo writer on Fakku (http://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=18556)
Nice one. Will lurk there from now on :cool:.
EDIT: I just saw a post by this Aura guy...
Yamaku is a school for kids with physical disabilities. Mental ones would require a completely different environment.
What about Kenji? I mean, he's partially blind but... He's friggin' insane man.
JoeTang
2009-05-27, 02:33 AM
Had some time on my hands so I ran through Lilly End. Doesn't unlock Hanako End too.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1494/katawa01.png
Is it just me or is this a combination of poor tense choice and syntax?
Had some time on my hands so I ran through Lilly End. Doesn't unlock Hanako End too.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1494/katawa01.png
Is it just me or is this a combination of poor tense choice and syntax?
That sentence is horrible. Extremely poor syntax.
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-01, 02:37 PM
Alright, what is your disability Felix what is your favorite disability out of the current ones Felix?
FelixTM
2009-06-01, 03:17 PM
Alright, what is your disability Felix what is your favorite disability out of the current ones Felix?
Hanako is my waifu. A Lilly is fine too.
Oh, speaking of Hanako, I've been meaning to post this screencap of a hilarious KS thread on /a/ a while ago.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6496/royhanako.jpg
Had me loling quite a bit. One of my favorite KS threads to pop up.
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-01, 03:30 PM
Hanako is indeed great, but as far as normal disabilities go Lilly is Top-Tier. Always found blindness strangely attractive and fascinating.
I still haven't made it through my first playthrough due to lack of time, I'm just past the part where you hang out with Hanako and she tells you thanks.
I'm so temped to spoil the paths and such but I'm fighting it with great force.
Hanako is indeed great, but as far as normal disabilities go Lilly is Top-Tier. Always found blindness strangely attractive and fascinating.
I still haven't made it through my first playthrough due to lack of time, I'm just past the part where you hang out with Hanako and she tells you thanks.
I'm so temped to spoil the paths and such but I'm fighting it with great force.
Then DON'T. 100% in KS is one of the 'bestest' things ever. And the last image you unlock is pure WIN.
FelixTM
2009-06-01, 04:17 PM
Had some time on my hands so I ran through Lilly End. Doesn't unlock Hanako End too.
Wow, I have no idea how I've been reading over this for so long and not understanding its significance. Thanks for the confirmation. Removed that part from the original post.
And is it just me or did it seem like a lot more people were gonna join us on this and then never actually committed to it? f3 Excuses, excuses.
JoeTang
2009-06-01, 04:29 PM
I just need to find myself some more time to get Shizune end. Not that I really care for her at all, but 100% yes pls. Can't wait for the full release.
Dyxanije
2009-06-01, 05:50 PM
Wow, I have no idea how I've been reading over this for so long and not understanding its significance. Thanks for the confirmation. Removed that part from the original post.
And is it just me or did it seem like a lot more people were gonna join us on this and then never actually committed to it? f3 Excuses, excuses.
I have only played Emi's route. I start summer vacation on Friday, I really want to play Hanako's and Lilly's route.
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-01, 06:29 PM
I didn't think it would be over so soon, just got the Hanako end. Going to start again and try for the Lilly end followed by Rin, Emi, and then whoever else.
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-03, 01:46 PM
Is Rin's end supposed to be hard to get? Because I just got it. By mistake mind you, but sort of fitting since it's Rin.
FelixTM
2009-06-03, 02:16 PM
Is Rin's end supposed to be hard to get? Because I just got it. By mistake mind you, but sort of fitting since it's Rin.
No, it's not. A lot of people didn't know how to get it in the beginning, though, because it's "harder" to get to than other ends, which are painfully obvious or land-in-your-lap easy. I guess you could also look at the fact that Emi and Shizune's ends have multiple ways to access, while Rin's only has one. Lilly and Hanako's do too, but theirs are really obvious.
Wow, I have no idea how I've been reading over this for so long and not understanding its significance. Thanks for the confirmation. Removed that part from the original post.
And is it just me or did it seem like a lot more people were gonna join us on this and then never actually committed to it? f3 Excuses, excuses.
I've been following along, and have played it, just not really felt like posting. Many apologies.
Regardless, it's a solid game, and I enjoyed playing it very much. Although I am a tad disappointed, as I want to play the full thing now, and I don't really enjoy waits.
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-04, 08:22 PM
Well I just got 100% doing a little rush through doing 3 routes yesterday and finishing Shizune's route just now. The image was indeed great.
Anyway. I can't really find myself ranking the girls on their own so I'll rank them in groups.
Group 1: Rin, Lilly. Group 2: Shizune, Hanako. Group 0: Emi. Group 1 > Group 2 of course, Group 0 is basically a I'm not sure group.
I can however rank the routes.
Rin: I liked hers the best since I enjoy her personality.
Lilly: Even though Lilly's and Hanako's routes are basically the same I like Lilly's end more.
Hanako: I just didn't enjoy her end as much as Lilly's.
Shizune: When I started on this route I hated it, but in the end I really started to like it. To the same effect I liked Misha and hated Shizune, by the end I hated Misha and liked Shizune. Misha needs to go for sure.
Emi: Like Shizune's route except I liked it at the started and hated it by the end.
Regardless, it's a solid game, and I enjoyed playing it very much. Although I am a tad disappointed, as I want to play the full thing now, and I don't really enjoy waits.
This. I both hate and like that I finished the game. I liked it because it's great, but hate it because now I have to wait.
Anyway. I can't really find myself ranking the girls on their own so I'll rank them in groups.
Group 1: Rin, Lilly. Group 2: Shizune, Hanako. Group 0: Emi. Group 1 > Group 2 of course, Group 0 is basically a I'm not sure group.
I can however rank the routes.
Rin: I liked hers the best since I enjoy her personality.
Lilly: Even though Lilly's and Hanako's routes are basically the same I like Lilly's end more.
Hanako: I just didn't enjoy her end as much as Lilly's.
Shizune: When I started on this route I hated it, but in the end I really started to like it. To the same effect I liked Misha and hated Shizune, by the end I hated Misha and liked Shizune. Misha needs to go for sure.
Emi: Like Shizune's route except I liked it at the started and hated it by the end.
It happened to me the other way round. The route I liked the most was Hanako's and Shizune's. Mostly because they're kinda stereotyped. Like the routes that most filled my expectatives. But Lilly's was enjoyable enough because of Akira.
Can't wait for the full release.
FelixTM
2009-06-06, 10:40 PM
Hey guys, my name is Hideaki. And I'm confirmed to be in the game.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8282/hideaki.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1912/hideaki2.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3084/hideaki3.png
However, I dunno for sure if she's the girl that we've heard about. But I'd assume so. Some people are also saying she's a trap. I dunno. lol
JoeTang
2009-06-07, 12:34 AM
Hey guys, my name is Hideaki. And I'm confirmed to be in the game.
However, I dunno for sure if she's the girl that we've heard about. But I'd assume so. Some people are also saying she's a trap. I dunno. lol
Hideaki is a God fucking damn masculine name. They could have gone with something less obvious, honestly.
Holy sh'it. I see these images pop up from time to time on /v/ but I had no idea it was a creation from 4chan. Huge friggin' Slowpoke, I know.
Holy sh'it. I see these images pop up from time to time on /v/ but I had no idea it was a creation from 4chan. Huge friggin' Slowpoke, I know.
I lol'd.
First thing I read was Hideki and thought of Chobits :f7:. That 3rd image looks a lot like the style of KS so she probably is the girl they've been talking bout.
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-19, 05:11 PM
After playing through again without breaks I have to rank the routes differently.
Rin and Lilly's Route. I just can't seem to rank one higher than the other. lol
Shizune's Route. After playing through again I really liked this route.
Hanako's Route. Still an alright route, but not as good as the others. Maybe in the full version it will get better.
Emi's Route. I hate her even more now.
What's up with you hating Emi :f4:
FelixTM
2009-06-21, 09:20 PM
So moot's been trolling 4chan lately. Like renaming stuff and forcing /a/'s Anonymous to be the names of two massive f'aggots. Anyway, even /jp/'s been hit now:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/203/lolmoot.jpg
LOL'd like the fist of the north star. I hope this produces some fun.
Yes, this is relevant.
/v/ got renamed to "The Vidya."
I wouldn't have it any other way.
I lol'd. Haven't checked /jp/ in a while... Is KS so massive there?
MetaSeraphim
2009-06-21, 09:44 PM
I think /a/ and /jp/ had fights over should have control over Katawa Shoujo.
Also, I hate Emi because she is easily the worst female in the game. I like Misha more than her.
FelixTM
2009-06-21, 09:48 PM
I lol'd. Haven't checked /jp/ in a while... Is KS so massive there?
/jp/ isn't exactly a huge fan of KS. But no matter where it's posted, there's plenty of people that like it too. Like on /a/. Sometimes KS threads do well and are fun, other times they completely suck and are just saged. I think it's even posted on /v/ sometimes, but I don't go to that board, so I dunno.
It's kind of one of those things no one really knows where it should go... It's certainly most fitting for the /a/ and /jp/ community, but it's not anime/manga related nor is it Japanese. The most common justification is that it's based off of a Japanese omake page, so yeah. I think it's posted far too much, but I guess I don't mind.
Also, I hate Emi because she is easily the worst female in the game. I like Misha more than her.
But but... She's got NO LEGS.
EngelRod
2009-06-21, 10:12 PM
/jp/ isn't exactly a huge fan of KS. But no matter where it's posted, there's plenty of people that like it too. Like on /a/. Sometimes KS threads do well and are fun, other times they completely suck and are just saged. I think it's even posted on /v/ sometimes, but I don't go to that board, so I dunno.
It's kind of one of those things no one really knows where it should go... It's certainly most fitting for the /a/ and /jp/ community, but it's not anime/manga related nor is it Japanese. The most common justification is that it's based off of a Japanese omake page, so yeah. I think it's posted far too much, but I guess I don't mind.
Lately in /jp/ people seem to get annoyed by KS threads, in /a/ it seems that anons like it a lot more.
Salguod
2009-06-30, 09:55 PM
I finally got around to it and I like it a lot. I have only played 1 (or 2) VNs so I can't really compare it to others.
The bad end,and Kenji, were hilarious and the music worked really well with the conspiracy then back to "normal" Kenji".
Emi was cute and the puppy eyes were just..
But then Hanako...!
Rin has a completely different appeal versus Emi and Hanako but I like her and her route the most. I really hate the notion that you have to do something so the Rin end is perfect in my eyes. So much has happened and changed while they were just sitting there and doing nothing. I don't mean you should just let things come to you but I hope I've expressed what I wanted to express.
I'll probably work on Lilly's tomorrow. And I'm not at all interested in Shizune.
Overall, Rin>>Hanako>Emi>Lilly so far.
DarkPwnage
2009-07-28, 07:11 PM
I finally played through this yesterday, and really I'm impressed by the quality of it. At first I was kind of turned away from it because of the whole physically disabled theme, but it really has a nice story and likeable characters. My favorite has to be Hanako, but Rin is also like a walking drug trip. Really the only character I don't like too much is Emi, but I'm not one for sporty girls.
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