[1.2.218] New Minidungeons, New weapons, more New race data

[IsaacGS]

Some really cool stuff here.

New class of weapon, "Epic Item". Not sure exactly what this variable means yet, but these weapons have skills associated with them.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Character/01382068.img/swingO2.0.weapon.png
베인윙즈 (Bain Wings)
Magician Only
untradeable once equipped, "Epic Item"
Level 58
Attack Speed 4 (Fast)
Required STR: 0
Required DEX: 0
Required INT: 0
Required LUK: 0
Weapon ATT 53
Magic ATT 85
7 Slots
10% chance of 5 second stun,-5 MP each time that occurs.
10% chance of 30 second Poison, dealing 120 damage per second. MP -5 each time.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Character/01402062.img/stand2.0.weapon.png
베인스워드 (Bain Sword)
Warrior Only
untradeable once equipped, "Epic Item"
Level 58
Attack Speed 4 (Fast)
Required STR: 115
Required DEX: 0
Required INT: 0
Required LUK: 0
Weapon ATT 55
7 slots
5% chance of 10 second Poison, dealing 300 damage per second. MP -5 each time.
10% chance of 10 second stun. MP -1 each time.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Character/01472086.img/info.iconRaw.png
베인바이터 (Bain Biter)
Thief Only
untradeable once equipped, "Epic Item"
Level 50
Attack Speed 4 (Fast)
Required STR: 0
Required DEX: 0
Required INT: 0
Required LUK: 0
Weapon ATT 33
Weapon DEF 3
DEX +4
7 slots
10% chance of 5 second stun,-5 MP each time that occurs.
10% chance of 30 second Poison, dealing 120 damage per second. MP -5 each time.


the duplicate Battleships have been transformed into UFO mounts.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Character/TamingMob/01932001.img/stand1.5.0.png
They have some interesting abilities, but we'll look at that in the skill section.


New Minidungeons were added.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Map/MapList.21.path.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Map/MapList.31.path.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Map/105090320.img/miniMap.canvas.png
Mini Dungeon : Drake's Blue Cave
Dark Drake x18
This is a pure spawn Dark Drake map.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Map/251010410.img/miniMap.canvas.png
Mini Dungeon : Treasure Island of the Pirates
Captain x15
Pure spawn Captain map.


More Event moon maps.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Map/922241000.img/miniMap.canvas.png
Event Mateon x6
Old Moon Bunny NPC
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Map/922241100.img/miniMap.canvas.png
Old Moon Bunny NPC


http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Mob/9300339.img/stand.0.png
Event Mateon
Aggressive, Invincible
level 15
HP 200,000
MP 10,000
speed -40
Physical Attack 1
Weapon Defense 99999
Magic Attack 1
Magic Defense 99999
accuracy 999
avoid 0
EXP 5
KB 0
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Mob/9300340.img/move.0.png
Maple Birthday Cake
Always deals 6 damage, defeats itself after 600 seconds
level 15
HP 100
MP 100
speed 0
Physical Attack 1
Weapon Defense 10
Magic Attack 1
Magic Defense 10
accuracy 10
Avoid 0
EXP 6
KB 0
Speech:
"MapleStory is 6 years!"
Death Speech:
"Congratulations on 6 years of Maple~♥"


New Chair:
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Item/03010061.effect.0.png
Untradeable, One of a Kind
35 HP, 10 MP per 10 seconds

Yeah it looks just like the old one.

ETCs:
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Item/04001268.info.iconRaw.png
Yellow-colored Krypto Crystal
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Item/04001269.info.iconRaw.png
Emerald-colored Krypto Crystal
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/Item/04001270.info.iconRaw.png
Good Children's Badge

Krypto Crystals are part of the Moon event, there's a reactor you need to whack to get them.


the Animations for some of the new skills were changed.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/2100.img.skill.21001001.effect.gif
This goes with the "Dash"-like skill in the new class's First Job.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/2111.img.skill.21110003.effect.gif
(this one broke a bit when animating)
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/2111.img.skill.21110003.hit.gif
this is for the "Coma" icon skill.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/2111.img.skill.21111005.effect.gif
New "Ice Charge" animation. Looks like this class is Ice elemental. Wolves and Polar Bears both being very common ice-affiliated animals.



All skills expire April 17, 2009
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/skill.0001013.icon.png
UFO Rider skill
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/skill.0001014.icon.png
UFO Dash skill
Speeds up the Movement of the UFO.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/218/skill.0001015.icon.png
UFO Beam skill
Enables one to harvest Krypto Crystals

[Kabanaw]

FIRST LAWLAWLAWL

And the weapons look cool. Now to wait for the rest of the info :O

[Takebacker]

That sword's attack power is really low for it's level, especially since the claw and staff weapons have ridiculous stats for their level. O_o

[JoeTang]

New MDs... I really want an Aqua Road Dungeon MD. I love Aqua Road and Squids <3

[Teppi]

so the new classes are epic classes......

[DrRusty]

New MDs... I really want an Aqua Road Dungeon MD. I love Aqua Road and Squids <3

why would we need aqua mini-dungeons :f6:. Hardly anyone trains there. I thought mini-dungeons were made to allow less crowding for popular maps.

[JoeTang]

MDs have improved spawn.

[Kirov]

I don't really like the look of those new weapons but then again I didn't like the look of most of the timeless ones either. Too bad they couldn't have been level 130 weapons, I wish they would start making higher level equips. I can't wait to see what this whole epic item thing is about though.

[IsaacGS]

so the new classes are epic classes......
These weapons don't have anything to do with the classes. Judging by the current levels, it seems like they're more like Custom Balrog drops. No way to tell though, they're pretty damn overpowered at the moment and there's only 3.

[Takebacker]

MDs have improved spawn.

All of them?

[NoWaizMatt]

so the new classes are epic classes......

Not necessarily.

And lame mini-dungeons are lame.

[JoeTang]

Captain MD is useful, but who ever trained at Dark Drakes? I'll tell you who. Hackers.

[ItachiPower]

EDIT: Noticed that they drop from Grandpa Balrog. Lol.

[Sn1perJohnE]

"epic weapons" lawl thats funny.

[IsaacGS]

EDIT: Noticed that they drop from Grandpa Balrog. Lol.
Let me emphasize that's my speculation. In 1.2.219 they could completely redo the stats and turn them into level 130 items. There's just no way to know right now.


"EpicItem" is a new variable in the data, in the same vein as "Untradeable" or "One of a Kind". Can't be sure what this means yet since these weapons aren't available in game yet.

[Harrisonized]

Wow, a lukless fast 4 staff.
Now it's going to make luk fp builds even more useless. :f7:

I think it's more accurate if you translated that as "Balrog _____" rather than "Bain _____"

By the way, maybe you can check the other weapons to see whether they had "epicitem" tags on them so you can figure out what that means.

[Erich]

But if it says Bain, it would be Bain. Which it does.

[JoeTang]

Let me emphasize that's my speculation. In 1.2.219 they could completely redo the stats and turn them into level 130 items. There's just no way to know right now.


"EpicItem" is a new variable in the data, in the same vein as "Untradeable" or "One of a Kind". Can't be sure what this means yet since these weapons aren't available in game yet.

What are Soul Bound items listed as?


I think it's more accurate if you translated that as "Balrog _____" rather than "Bain _____"

That makes no sense at all because they're called Bain, not Balrog.

[Serendipity]

The name is Bane, Bain, Bein, Vein, Vain, or Vane. (OMG...)

Bane=Bain=Vane=Vain= 배인
Vein=Bein=베인

배인 & 베인 look simillar, the two words are sounded same.
(They are *supposed to be* sounded differently, but nobody cares.)
Because the people at nexon can't even spell in Korean properly, I cant tell...

Personally, I think it's Bane.

Isaac, the third one is 'Bain Biter'

EDIT: Yeah they drop from Grandpa Balrog. It's in the patch notice.

[ItachiPower]

Maybe there'll be different variations?

[Baklava]

"epicitem"

Who else read that as epictiem?

[IsaacGS]

What are Soul Bound items listed as?



That makes no sense at all because they're called Bain, not Balrog.
Soul bound as in "Bind on Equip"? That's "EquipTradeBlock".


Think this thread is more or less done, nothing else noteworthy.

[JoeTang]

Soul bound as in "Bind on Equip"? That's "EquipTradeBlock".


Think this thread is more or less done, nothing else noteworthy.

Yeah, that's the one. I only know it as Soul Bound. And I don't even play fucking WoW.

[IsaacGS]

Yeah, that's the one. I only know it as Soul Bound. And I don't even play pineappleing WoW.
Well there's usually two types of "Soulbound": Bind on Equip (BoE) and Bind on Pickup (BoP). In maple, BoP would be just regular untradeable items, whereas things like Timeless equips and these new weapons are BoE.

[ItzTaylor]

Lmfao@ "Epic Weapons"


Where's the Epic Gun. :f4:

[Worthyness]

lol at weapons 0_O

lol drake mini dungeon

ooOOooo shiny ice :D

looks fun xP

[DrRusty]

ice again? Don't we have enough classes that use ice? How about making a class with lightning element? That's the most neglected one lol.

[Lerk]

ice again? Don't we have enough classes that use ice? How about making a class with lightning element? That's the most neglected one lol.

Y'mean like the Striker?

If the possible speculation about a Cygnus opposite are true, then consider that ice is one of the few elements that hasn't been used by the Cygnus classes.

As well, this is only the warrior sub-job - if, again, it follows speculation as a Cygnus opposite, then we have four others which can use other elements. (or possibly just made-up ones without a monster property, like 'wind' and 'dark', but we'll see when they get released)

[mrcowcow]

Hmm. So, how does one get the "new" chair, anyways? o_O As you said, it looks like the old one, but is there a brand new way to get it?

[Kawasari Mimoto]

Elements of Cygnus:

-Lightning (Pirate)
-Fire (Mage)
-Wind (Archer)
-Holy (Warrior)
-Darkness (Thief)

Elements from the new race/class:
-Ice

What's opposing of Fire? Ice. What's opposing of Wind? Earth. What's opposing of Lightning? Wood (maybe?). Opposing of Holy is Darkness, but they have that with Cygnus.

I wonder how they're going to do the rest. Interesting if they added 'Time' as an element, I've known RPGs that considered 'Time' itself as a element -cough cough- Tales of Eternia! <3

[IsaacGS]

Hmm. So, how does one get the "new" chair, anyways? o_O As you said, it looks like the old one, but is there a brand new way to get it?
Probably event quests. It is the 6th KMS anniversary after all.

[ItzTaylor]

Elements of Cygnus:

-Lightning (Pirate)
-Fire (Mage)
-Wind (Archer)
-Holy (Warrior)
-Darkness (Thief)

Elements from the new race/class:
-Ice

What's opposing of Fire? Ice. What's opposing of Wind? Earth. What's opposing of Lightning? Wood (maybe?). Opposing of Holy is Darkness, but they have that with Cygnus.

I wonder how they're going to do the rest. Interesting if they added 'Time' as an element, I've known RPGs that considered 'Time' itself as a element -cough cough- Tales of Eternia! <3


Opposing of Lightning is Water.

Or at least that's how it was in Pokemon. But they had Psychic too.

[Takebacker]

Elements of Cygnus:

-Lightning (Pirate)
-Fire (Mage)
-Wind (Archer)
-Holy (Warrior)
-Darkness (Thief)

Elements from the new race/class:
-Ice

What's opposing of Fire? Ice. What's opposing of Wind? Earth. What's opposing of Lightning? Wood (maybe?). Opposing of Holy is Darkness, but they have that with Cygnus.

I wonder how they're going to do the rest. Interesting if they added 'Time' as an element, I've known RPGs that considered 'Time' itself as a element -cough cough- Tales of Eternia! <3

I like the time mage idea. o_o I always wondered why they didn't expand on the slow skill. Interesting stuff can be made out of something like that.

[Lerk]

Opposing of Lightning is Water.

Or at least that's how it was in Pokemon. But they had Psychic too.

Lightning is the opposite of water in a few other systems as well (i.e. Symphonia)

That said, space mage.

Big Bang! - now with practicality!

[ItzTaylor]

Ability to bend time, slow down monsters attacks, and speed up your movement to kill more effectively. That would be cool, I guess... Except for the fact, it would slow down your spawn. :f6:

[Takebacker]

Ability to bend time, slow down monsters attacks, and speed up your movement to kill more effectively. That would be cool, I guess... Except for the fact, it would slow down your spawn. :f6:

Speeding up your/everyone elses movement is kind of overdone don'cha think? *cough*speed infusion*cough*

[Chameleonic]

I don't really like the look of those new weapons but then again I didn't like the look of most of the timeless ones either. Too bad they couldn't have been level 130 weapons, I wish they would start making higher level equips. I can't wait to see what this whole epic item thing is about though.

lol I dont care how weapons look, I just want a lv 160 weapon! :wink:

[ItzTaylor]

Speeding up your/everyone elses movement is kind of overdone don'cha think? *cough*speed infusion*cough*

Ya, I agree. But that's the only good thing I could come up with for the "Time" concept.

SI please. :f2:

[JoeTang]

In the more recent Tales, the elemental affinities are
Water ~ Lightning
Fire ~ Ice
Wind ~ Earth
Light ~ Darkness
I believe.
Time doesn't have advantage or disadvantage to anything, I believe. Unless it was
Nothing ~ Time

Pokemon didn't have opposites. They had a huge table.

[Rob]

I like the time mage idea. o_o I always wondered why they didn't expand on the slow skill. Interesting stuff can be made out of something like that.

The best time mage I saw was the Time Mage class from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance... Pretty useful with the gravity magic.

[Loose]

Note: Ice was the only element not used in the Knights of Cygnus class. Well, maybe Holy too, but the Soul Master gives off a Holy vibe.

[JoeTang]

The best time mage I saw was the Time Mage class from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance... Pretty useful with the gravity magic.

Black, White, and Red Magic were here. Time Magic blows.

[ItzTaylor]

In the more recent Tales, the elemental affinities are
Water ~ Lightning
Fire ~ Ice
Wind ~ Earth
Light ~ Darkness
I believe.
Time doesn't have advantage or disadvantage to anything, I believe. Unless it was
Nothing ~ Time

Pokemon didn't have opposites. They had a huge table.

They didn't have opposites, but they had Weaknesses, and Strengths, which is what I was using.

I still think we need a Alchemy class.
Or Cyborgs.

Evil Scientists vs Mad Scientist type crap.

[Dusk]

The best time mage I saw was the Time Mage class from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance... Pretty useful with the gravity magic.

Wasn't there a class that had pretty much every Time Magic except without the MP cost and better Speed? Juggler or something?

[Phoenix]

I'm sure lower levels would benefit from a heavy spawning goby mini dungeon =]

And a fast 4 2hand sword (at leas it looks 2-handed)...that's hot.

[Kabanaw]

Soul~Soulless
Fire~Ice
Wind~Earth
Poison~Pure
Lightning~Water

I hope the classes go down like that.

[bio9205]

Awesome. Now I wanna know more about the new weapons. Why are they level 58 anyway? Thank goodness there's a Dagger over there :f3: And I hope the UFO mount will be made into a CS item, it looks kewl.


Soul~Soulless
Fire~Ice
Wind~Earth
Poison~Pure
Lightning~Water

I hope the classes go down like that.

Soulless? You mean shadow. And Holy for pure?

[Kirov]

Note: Ice was the only element not used in the Knights of Cygnus class. Well, maybe Holy too, but the Soul Master gives off a Holy vibe.

It's summon has a holy element. Ice is my favourite maple element so I am glad this first class uses it, since it was missing from Cygnus.

[Sylphior]

i am SO making this job when they come out. Ice element is my fav.

[Kawasari Mimoto]

In the more recent Tales, the elemental affinities are
Water ~ Lightning
Fire ~ Ice
Wind ~ Earth
Light ~ Darkness
I believe.
Time doesn't have advantage or disadvantage to anything, I believe. Unless it was
Nothing ~ Time

Pokemon didn't have opposites. They had a huge table.

The only thing 'Time' itself had a rival to was maybe 'Elemental'? In which, in Eternia, 'Elemental' was considered as a ... King of Elements, strong to all other elements. Time was also strong to all elements, but has a 1% weakness to Lightning. lol.

[JoeTang]

Wasn't there a class that had pretty much every Time Magic except without the MP cost and better Speed? Juggler or something?

Juggler only gave Quicken with no MP cost, i.e. Take your turn immediately. This only changes your turn order once, and it resets back to normal after your turn finishes, unlike Hasting or Slowing. Time Mage Stat gains sucked ass, though there really were only one or two jobs per race that had good stat gains.

Time Magic is for magicians too weak to do real damage with Black Magic.

tl;dr time magic blows.

[Combattente]

Wow @ the new weapons and the skill animations.. this class is undoubtedly going to be.. EPIC :f2:

[Rob]

Juggler only gave Quicken with no MP cost, i.e. Take your turn immediately. This only changes your turn order once, and it resets back to normal after your turn finishes, unlike Hasting or Slowing. Time Mage Stat gains sucked ass, though there really were only one or two jobs per race that had good stat gains.

Time Magic is for magicians too weak to do real damage with Black Magic.

tl;dr time magic blows.


You could make a black mage and master time magic too :f3:.

[Sylphior]

well, going off of what JoeTang said earlier about Pokemon, the 2 Pokemon Dialgia & Palkia, control Time and Space, respectively. so maybe Time and Space could go against or with each other.

either way, i love the Ice element. i just wish it was on another type of job, but w/e.

[Nikkey]

Time is relative, and can thus have no opposite. (Start by defining, or explaining what time is. It's the opposite of that)

[bored4ever86]

anyone see a mentalist char class comming? something tha uses telekenisis to attack (ala psykeeper from FlyFF) hell it'd be cool to have no/limited skill animations and the monster dies by being choked to death or thrown against a wall/platform

[Chompy]

If Grandpa Rog is dropping low-base/upgradeable (what I am speculating) weapons and some boss upgradable shoes- he may be well worth hunting.
But with no req on secondary stats and the new MoNs we are heading back again to an all class LESS system as opposed to a LOW system which was stronger per-MoN IMO.
Ya for stat resets! Ya for NX charges!:glitter:

[crewe127]

We need wolf spider mini dungeons...

[IllegallySane]

It'd be appropriate if there are upgradeable versions of those epic weapons, and for all classes too by fighting a higher level version of Grand Balrog, since level 5x epic weapons don't feel epic at all. Level 130+ weapons pl0x.

[Sylphior]

We need wolf spider mini dungeons...

why? WS have a whole map to themselves. it's not that hard to get around...

[Manu]

why? WS have a whole map to themselves. it's not that hard to get around...
Because the map's kinda big and there's hackers, ksers and archmages leeching people.

[Dusk]

We need wolf spider mini dungeons...

We need wolf spider hitboxes fixed...

[Sylphior]

there's a lot of hitboxes that need to be fixed...

[modular]

there's a lot of hitboxes that need to be fixed...

i can only think of 4 (ws, pap's heal animation, bf, first form firebrand)

not too many considering how many other monsters there are in the game. nexon america does sloppy work :/

[MaxHudson]

Paps heal is correct. Its how its spose to be.

However Also alot of showa mobs have missing hit boxes. But thats how they should be also.

[MasPan]

Paps heal is correct. Its how its spose to be.

However Also alot of showa mobs have missing hit boxes. But thats how they should be also.

Bodyguard B has some issues from what I hear as well (or was it A? I get em mixed up, the yellow haired one).

[ablu2]

L> Stump mini dungeon

[Icedfire]

Bodyguard B has some issues from what I hear as well (or was it A? I get em mixed up, the yellow haired one).

Bodyguard B is WORSE than Bigfoot. Take BF's number of hitboxes, and cut it in half. That's what bgb's is. You can essentially only hit him when he is attacking.

[modular]

Paps heal is correct. Its how its spose to be.

However Also alot of showa mobs have missing hit boxes. But thats how they should be also.

no hitbox should ever be missing.

of course, you must be one of the people who thinks that if nexon doesn't acknowledge a problem then there is no problem. =/
they fixed extra d because they received many complaints about it. its only lvl 7x and has a drop needed for a quest, so it got attention from players. no one cares about pap because it's missing only like 10 frames of 1 animation it uses rarely enough that people hardly notice.

not enough people whine about bgb because hes a ranged only boss and very high level. i forgot about bgb cuz im not ranged or lvl 17x...

if it's important enough to the players nexon will do something. but its not the way it should be.

[Zpyke]

no hitbox should ever be missing.

of course, you must be one of the people who thinks that if nexon doesn't acknowledge a problem then there is no problem. =/
they fixed extra d because they received many complaints about it. its only lvl 7x and has a drop needed for a quest, so it got attention from players. no one cares about pap because it's missing only like 10 frames of 1 animation it uses rarely enough that people hardly notice.

not enough people whine about bgb because hes a ranged only boss and very high level. i forgot about bgb cuz im not ranged or lvl 17x...

if it's important enough to the players nexon will do something. but its not the way it should be.

I actually find pap very irritating. Because of missing frames, my savage blow only hits every other time, or hardly at all. It's worse when it's pinned against a wall. What fun that my only main attack is basically rendered useless against him. :glitter:

[modular]

I actually find pap very irritating. Because of missing frames, my savage blow only hits every other time, or hardly at all. It's worse when it's pinned against a wall. What fun that my only main attack is basically rendered useless against him. :glitter:

i can for sure tell you thats only because his hitbox changes size for each animation. savage blow has a very small range. brandish, however, hits every time except for the space where i can get in 2 wasted attacks with a fast4 weapon on the heal animation. rush doesnt work when hes in his... hmmm... i think its the slow animation, because of the higher hitbox.

[Zpyke]

i can for sure tell you thats only because his hitbox changes size for each animation. savage blow has a very small range. brandish, however, hits every time except for the space where i can get in 2 wasted attacks with a fast4 weapon on the heal animation. rush doesnt work when hes in his... hmmm... i think its the slow animation, because of the higher hitbox.

Now that you mention it, I've seen that happen to a hero.

On topic, I hope that they release more of these epic items of all levels for all classes, and that they don't end up just taking up room because they suck or there's better weapons out there. And I hope they don't continue to overpower what they've already overpowered, I.E. claws. And hope they release things that are stronger than the lunchbox and other weapons that are no longer obtainable, as anyone with those weapons possesses an advantage.
As it is, they seem good, but why do they all basically have the same status effects? And I'd like to see something unique, or at least use a good idea from another game that made something unique. Like wands that cast free spells, or swords that seal enemies, or axes that have a chance to sometimes kill in 1hit. (Not 1hit bosses, of course.)

I want to see more mini-dungeons for almost all maps, with variety. Like the above example from someone else, a spider map would be good because, while it's a good map, it gets slow to train on fast because of the map size and layout. I know we now have real good maps for masteria, but I still think there should be some mini-dungeons for them, with a different layout that can benefit other classes that might have trouble in those rooms. Typhoon mini-dungeon where you CAN'T fall back down to the jq below, would be nice.

And I like how once my post about ice warrior and it's polar bears/wolves came up, it kind of just got absorbed into the conversation, yet never talked about. :goggle:

[MasPan]

Now that you mention it, I've seen that happen to a hero.

On topic, I hope that they release more of these epic items of all levels for all classes, and that they don't end up just taking up room because they suck or there's better weapons out there. And I hope they don't continue to overpower what they've already overpowered, I.E. claws. And hope they release things that are stronger than the lunchbox and other weapons that are no longer obtainable, as anyone with those weapons possesses an advantage.
As it is, they seem good, but why do they all basically have the same status effects? And I'd like to see something unique, or at least use a good idea from another game that made something unique. Like wands that cast free spells, or swords that seal enemies, or axes that have a chance to sometimes kill in 1hit. (Not 1hit bosses, of course.)

I want to see more mini-dungeons for almost all maps, with variety. Like the above example from someone else, a spider map would be good because, while it's a good map, it gets slow to train on fast because of the map size and layout. I know we now have real good maps for masteria, but I still think there should be some mini-dungeons for them, with a different layout that can benefit other classes that might have trouble in those rooms. Typhoon mini-dungeon where you CAN'T fall back down to the jq below, would be nice.

And I like how once my post about ice warrior and it's polar bears/wolves came up, it kind of just got absorbed into the conversation, yet never talked about. :goggle:

Why would they do that? They didn't make mobber-friendly versions of newts (peak hardly counts here) or skelz, or even really wyverns. I wouldn't expect them to add an alternate to give other classes a chance when they don't do it already.

[Takebacker]

Why would they do that? They didn't make mobber-friendly versions of newts (peak hardly counts here) or skelz, or even really wyverns. I wouldn't expect them to add an alternate to give other classes a chance when they don't do it already.

Masteria is pretty mobby friendly in the first place anyway. Wrath of night, typhons, WS, evil dead, lower ascent, etc are all geared towards mobbing classes. Even krakia is speculated to be really really mobby. If you can't handle the map (typhons, evil dead), just don't train there. Easy.

[Zpyke]

Why would they do that? They didn't make mobber-friendly versions of newts (peak hardly counts here) or skelz, or even really wyverns. I wouldn't expect them to add an alternate to give other classes a chance when they don't do it already.

Just coming up with ideas in general. I mean, it'd be better than those pirates in my opinion. By the time you can kill those fast enough, there's better things to train on, like squids or gobies.

And they're adding more to try new things out, so I was just thinking what they could do for masteria mini-dungeons. As Takebacker said, it is pretty good to mob, but there's always different maps we could see. I saw I.AM.ROBOTS as a pretty good spot to train on for late 5x to 6x, and if there was improvements to be made, it would be a smaller size map with less extra enemies. Same with gryphons. Typhoons... I just hate having to climb back up the mountain if blown off. :hothead:

[Sylphior]

Why would they do that? They didn't make mobber-friendly versions of newts (peak hardly counts here) or skelz, or even really wyverns. I wouldn't expect them to add an alternate to give other classes a chance when they don't do it already.

well lucky for me when i hit 84 on my gunner, i can train on single-target jr newties. >.<

[Harrisonized]

Like the above example from someone else, a spider map would be good because, while it's a good map, it gets slow to train on fast because of the map size and layout.
We all know how popular Wolf Spiders are to hackers. Adding a mini-dungeon for wolf spiders is just asking for the trouble. The hacker can go in, bot for two hours, come out, reset, and possibly avoid detection forever. I highly doubt a GM would be checking ALL 50 channels x 19 channels in wolf spiders.

[Takebacker]

Just coming up with ideas in general. I mean, it'd be better than those pirates in my opinion. By the time you can kill those fast enough, there's better things to train on, like squids or gobies.

And they're adding more to try new things out, so I was just thinking what they could do for masteria mini-dungeons. As Takebacker said, it is pretty good to mob, but there's always different maps we could see. I saw I.AM.ROBOTS as a pretty good spot to train on for late 5x to 6x, and if there was improvements to be made, it would be a smaller size map with less extra enemies. Same with gryphons. Typhoons... I just hate having to climb back up the mountain if blown off. :hothead:

Pirates are only crap to us because we already have masteria, which blows it out of the water. I'm sure in KMS, it'd be a nice place to go. Besides, they needed to add mini dungeons for mid levels anyway. They only catered to 1st job, really early/mid 2nd job, and 120+ with the first batch of dungeons. There was nothing for 7x/8x, and that's where the pirate and drake MD comes in.

I would have loved a gobi mini dungeon though. Map doesn't really matter, as long as there aren't any bonefish, it'll be a godly training spot once again.

[Pokerman]

Pirates are only crap to us because we already have masteria, which blows it out of the water. I'm sure in KMS, it'd be a nice place to go. Besides, they needed to add mini dungeons for mid levels anyway. They only catered to 1st job, really early/mid 2nd job, and 120+ with the first batch of dungeons. There was nothing for 7x/8x, and that's where the pirate and drake MD comes in.

I would have loved a gobi mini dungeon though. Map doesn't really matter, as long as there aren't any bonefish, it'll be a godly training spot once again.

Oh wow I never even thought of having a gobi mini dungeon. That would be like the most amazing place to train.

[Baklava]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9995/neffect21120006.gif

Doesn't look very "black magician follower"ey to me.

[MaxHudson]

no hitbox should ever be missing.

of course, you must be one of the people who thinks that if nexon doesn't acknowledge a problem then there is no problem. =/
they fixed extra d because they received many complaints about it. its only lvl 7x and has a drop needed for a quest, so it got attention from players. no one cares about pap because it's missing only like 10 frames of 1 animation it uses rarely enough that people hardly notice.

not enough people whine about bgb because hes a ranged only boss and very high level. i forgot about bgb cuz im not ranged or lvl 17x...

if it's important enough to the players nexon will do something. but its not the way it should be.

Sorry I must have misunderstood you. Only Hitbox I've noticed missing is pap's Heal hitbox. Which is how it should be. But as you said. Brandish has large range and I would not know of smaller attacks.

I was not talking about paps hitbox getting big/smaller during attacks. However not being able to hit it when it is healing. Is how it should be.

[Takebacker]

However not being able to hit it when it is healing. Is how it should be.

People said that poisoning BF was how it was supposed to be.

Seriously, no hitbox should be missing. Ever. Unless directly announced by nexon as intended, it shouldn't be that way.

[MaxHudson]

People said that poisoning BF was how it was supposed to be.

Seriously, no hitbox should be missing. Ever. Unless directly announced by nexon as intended, it shouldn't be that way.

Then why is pap that way in every other MapleStory?

If anything it does not make pap broken just because there is a 1/2 a second you can't attack it? I agree. BF, most of NLC things there hitboxes are broken and should be normal. But pap's pap. I think Paps hitboxes should be resized but thats it.

And if paps heal was a glitch. Then I think KMS would have caught on by now?

[Combattente]

Anyway, 1.2.219 was released. What's new?

[Zpyke]

Then why is pap that way in every other MapleStory?

If anything it does not make pap broken just because there is a 1/2 a second you can't attack it? I agree. BF, most of NLC things there hitboxes are broken and should be normal. But pap's pap. I think Paps hitboxes should be resized but thats it.

And if paps heal was a glitch. Then I think KMS would have caught on by now?

Pap is never complained about because people can still kill him. However, hitboxes are missing. I tried soloing on my chief bandit once, but it was taking way too long because only 1/2 or even 1/3 of my attacks would hit. I don't think hermits, nl's, or bowman have this problem, as it sort of aims up at the new hitbox and hits it anyways. And warriors and mages? They just have large range. Though buccaneer's might have a problem with some skill like flash punch, which is like rush, except a bit lower to the ground.

[FelixTM]

I don't think hermits, nl's, or bowman have this problem, as it sort of aims up at the new hitbox and hits it anyways.

Nah, my arrows still go through Pap when he uses his heal skill. He always manages to gain a little ground during it, but it doesn't last long enough to matter. He gets pushed back before he comes within dangerous range.

[Zpyke]

Nah, my arrows still go through Pap when he uses his heal skill. He always manages to gain a little ground during it, but it doesn't last long enough to matter. He gets pushed back before he comes within dangerous range.

I stand corrected. Does anyone know if it's the same for stars and bullets?

And the newest stuff for the epic items looks nice. I like the idea that weapons will have animation effects to them.

[IsaacGS]

Nothing major yet in 1.2.219/220/221. Some changes but it's still in early stages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Isaac_mage/KMST/9effect7.png
New effect for the "Bain"/Epic equips.

[Erich]

Nothing major yet in 1.2.219/220/221. Some changes but it's still in early stages.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Isaac_mage/KMST/9effect7.png
New effect for the "Bain"/Epic equips.

Where does the effect go up? Above head like zhelm?
And would one cancel out the other and in which instances could you get that and not the zakum effect? (When wearing both)

[IsaacGS]

Where does the effect go up? Above head like zhelm?
And would one cancel out the other and in which instances could you get that and not the zakum effect? (When wearing both)
You can only have one effect going, I have no idea which one would override the other. It's just... behind your character.

[xLeviathan]

You can only have one effect going, I have no idea which one would override the other. It's just... behind your character.

I think the 2112006 skill change was noteworthy!

It's a pretty neat skill animation.
If anyone is curious. o.o
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/DUfire/21120006.gif

Idk if the stats changed, but it's 16 mobs and 800% damage maxed. So yeah. :|

[MasPan]

I think the 2112006 skill change was noteworthy!

It's a pretty neat skill animation.
If anyone is curious. o.o
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v652/DUfire/21120006.gif

Quite a happy looking skill for what we were assuming was an evil class O.o

[Baklava]

Quite a happy looking skill for what we were assuming was an evil class O.o

It's not an evil class.

[Erich]

It's not an evil class.

Assuming. Key word.

[Baklava]

Assuming. Key word.

:(

[Loose]

That ice chick has huge boobs.

[Erich]

That ice chick has huge boobs.

GOGOGO LOOSE. GOGOGO.

And yeah, I don't think this has to do with the Black Magician at all.
If it is, big boobs are evil in MS. That makes Loose a unhappy camper.

[Vernacular]

What skill is that for?
o___________O

LMFAO IT CANT BE MAPLE WARRIOR, GG ME.
;3;

So uhm, Blizzard?

[Erich]

What skill is that for?
o___________O

LMFAO IT CANT BE MAPLE WARRIOR, GG ME.
;3;

So uhm, Blizzard?

The new blizzard on that warrior class.

[Vernacular]

Pretty
but I'd rather it be a buff man with a large sack.
8)
lolbutsrsly,
Looks a lot better than the Mage one where it looks like you are getting raped in the ass by ice spikes from hell. :spook:

[Baklava]

That ice chick has huge boobs.

Best observation ever.

[xLeviathan]

That ice chick has huge boobs.

Many other people have noticed, too.
:>

[Zpyke]

You can only have one effect going, I have no idea which one would override the other. It's just... behind your character.

I guess Nexon doesn't like the idea of people making their characters shine more. :f3:

I LIKED the idea of a zhelm and bain effect. :f4:

[MasPan]

That ice chick has huge boobs.

A hint of things to come in the future of maple? Maybe there will actually be some sprite differentiation between male/female now :D :zzz:

[Sylphior]

so anyone has a guess as to what it is now? it can't be Black Magician's Disciples with that...perky skill.

[Loose]

Nexon has to hire me first. : \

[Sarah]

No loose you're wrong, they're not boobs. Erich pointed it out to me and was slobbering all over the place but I had to burst his 'booble'.

It's just a shoulder-less fold down shirt. I have no idea what they're actually called but yeah she has no boobs. Sorry.

[Loose]

I refuse to accept that.

They're boobs. : )

[Harrisonized]

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9720/36943045.jpg
:goggle:

Yea, I agree with Sarah that the whole thing isn't her breasts, it's merely part of her clothing.

To me her breasts look like they are underneath, proportional to her anorexic body.

[xLeviathan]

Lmfao.
She's seductive. Bra showing and all. ;)

[Harrisonized]

I don't see her bra. That's part of her dress.

I find it funny how Nexon uses subliminal sexual messages all over maple though.
This is, after all, supposed to be a game directed at teenagers.

[Zpyke]

I don't see her bra. That's part of her dress.

I find it funny how Nexon uses subliminal sexual messages all over maple though.
This is, after all, supposed to be a game directed at teenagers.

That is actually surprisingly true...

Maybe it's not bad, but in my eyes it's still showing off half your body...
You know, for kids! (http://maplestory.nexon.net/WZ.ASPX?PART=/Event/View&boardNo=200&contentNo=005BN&pageIndex=1) :excellent:

And I'd say that it could still be a dark magician class. Just because you get buffs from a goddess doesn't automatically make you a good guy/gal. Like clerics and some other classes in D&D. :glitter:

[MasPan]

That is actually surprisingly true...

Maybe it's not bad, but in my eyes it's still showing off half your body...
You know, for kids! (http://maplestory.nexon.net/WZ.ASPX?PART=/Event/View&boardNo=200&contentNo=005BN&pageIndex=1) :excellent:

And I'd say that it could still be a dark magician class. Just because you get buffs from a goddess doesn't automatically make you a good guy/gal. Like clerics and some other classes in D&D. :glitter:

Even if nothing is showing, it still reveals well beyond what a traditional t-shirt or even most dresses would (pretty far down the chest). Even without boobs, it's pretty...idk, showy.

[Zpyke]

Even if nothing is showing, it still reveals well beyond what a traditional t-shirt or even most dresses would (pretty far down the chest). Even without boobs, it's pretty...idk, showy.

Well at least we still don't have custom maple profiles like other versions. From what I've seen it's basically a combination of myspace and maplestory. Except unlike myspace, you're more likely to only younger people with their profiles up. :f7:

[MasPan]

Well at least we still don't have custom maple profiles like other versions. From what I've seen it's basically a combination of myspace and maplestory. Except unlike myspace, you're more likely to only younger people with their profiles up. :f7:

We have profil3.com, which is basically that, but nobody posts on it. I use it as a maple photo dump.

[Fiel]

alright, the 222 patch was uploaded and this one contains skill strings.

It seems that this new class uses a sort of combo system to boost attack. This isn't combo like crusaders; it's something different entirely. This is like Street Fighter combos where certain keypresses cause you to do different moves, and different keypresses at certain times during a move causes different actions. Furthermore, the class gets boosts by chaining different skills together - so you get a WDEF and MDEF boost for chaining 10 attacks together within a specified time and such. Also, in order to perform certain attacks your combo counter (think Energy Charge for infighters) must be at a certain level.

So, as can be easily seen, the +3 booster is necessary in order to perform the best combo attacks.

[blitzkrieg]

alright, the 222 patch was uploaded and this one contains skill strings.

It seems that this new class uses a sort of combo system to boost attack. This isn't combo like crusaders; it's something different entirely. This is like Street Fighter combos where certain keypresses cause you to do different moves, and different keypresses at certain times during a move causes different actions. Furthermore, the class gets boosts by chaining different skills together - so you get a WDEF and MDEF boost for chaining 10 attacks together within a specified time and such. Also, in order to perform certain attacks your combo counter (think Energy Charge for infighters) must be at a certain level.

So, as can be easily seen, the +3 booster is necessary in order to perform the best combo attacks.

oh dear. maple will require skill to play? how can this be?

pretty exciting.

[Kirov]

Wow this class looks like it is going to spit all over Cygnus. I can't wait to see Tespia vids of it in action.

[xLeviathan]

alright, the 222 patch was uploaded and this one contains skill strings.

It seems that this new class uses a sort of combo system to boost attack. This isn't combo like crusaders; it's something different entirely. This is like Street Fighter combos where certain keypresses cause you to do different moves, and different keypresses at certain times during a move causes different actions. Furthermore, the class gets boosts by chaining different skills together - so you get a WDEF and MDEF boost for chaining 10 attacks together within a specified time and such. Also, in order to perform certain attacks your combo counter (think Energy Charge for infighters) must be at a certain level.

So, as can be easily seen, the +3 booster is necessary in order to perform the best combo attacks.

Wow. Damn, how does everyone get to it before me. :(

Anywho, that sounds pretty awesome. Now, let's do that with more classes and you've effectively moved from Hack-'n-Slash RPG-style to Fighting. :D

[Shippo the Fox]

Shadowerer shall rejoice!