This image perfectly sums up Nintendo's E3 conference.

[Mark]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/SSmstzo/Gifs/1216171774302.gif

Way to fucking fail, Nintendo. What the hell happened to you? You used to be on top of the world with the SNES. Yeah, the SNES...remember that? Well, technically you are back on top of the world, except you appeal more to CASUALS and soccer moms now.

GG.

[GMSInfighter]

CRAP I MISSED ALL OF E3!

*crys*

[Katie]

Hey! I'm a soccer mom.:f4:

I just want wii for super smash bros.

[Sui]

Nintendo's E3 conference has been boring for the last 2 years. I remember watching last year for new Super Smash Bros Brawl footage and getting 3 seconds with bad quality and a "release date". Then, I wanted to see more of Mario Kart or Animal Crossing or a Baten Kaitos-like RPG, but they were talking about Wii Fit instead. Not to mention, they shut down the NSider forums :( I don't mind that they appeal to casuals because I tend to like the "casual gamer" games.

Did Sony show any more of FFXIII? o_O I'm tempted to buy a PS3 for that game.

[WandererWillow]

You didnt hear about FFXIII, did you? Go check out the Live at E3 thread in Console Gaming for all the info on the XBox 360, PS3, and Nintendo conferences.

[Greg22]

Told you the Wii was Nintendo's biggest mistake, Mark.

[WandererWillow]

No, Nintendo's biggest mistake is lying to it's fans and deciding what "they" think is best instead of listening to the players. The Wii could be brilliant, but they pile shit like Wii Fit and Wii Sport Resort, and add all these extras that could have (and the MotionPlus SHOULD have) been included a while back. So in my mind, the Wii isn't the problem. It's what they're doing with it that is the issue.

[Mark]

The Wii isn't a mistake. It's the highest selling console to date. It's just Nintendo took a big shit on all their past fans.

[Greg22]

The Wii isn't a mistake. It's the highest selling console to date. It's just Nintendo took a big shit on all their past fans.

Whatever you say, chief. You know I'm going to harrass you on MSN for being a Nintendo fanboy when I come home from work.

And @Willow, hasn't Nintendo always done what 'they think is best'? The Gamecube, DS, and Wii are all systems that support their whole "WE HAS AMAZING INNOVATION" slogan that they throw in every speech they make. The Wii took such a giant leap in that slogan that there's no way a different audience could be targeted. The Wii has taken Nintendo's innovation so high to the point where it backfired on their more loyal fans (The ones who've been bowing down to them since the SNES) and bit them in the ass, as opposed to their new audience (The mommys, daddys, and eight-year-old kids that play the Wii today).

[WandererWillow]

Nintendo still has some top of the line games, and their market in Japan is outstanding. Trust me when I say that if you're going to be mad at anyone, be mad at Nintendo of America (or, more specifically, Reggie). The Japanese market spends alot of time making games and products that are for all breeds, to include hardcore gamers. Nintendo of America wants the US version to be for casual gamers alone, it seems. So I have to agree, the Wii is a damn good console, it's the games released for it that are shit. Red Steel was alot of fun, so was LoZ:TP, SSBB, etc etc...but sadly, no games like that had info released this year at E3. It literally was all casual and cutesy gaming. This isn't normal for Nintendo of America, but it's definitely not the first time Reggie fucked things up. Go find where he claims Animal Crossing is a game for hardcore gamers. He's not very bright. Nintendo of Japan is doing much better because they actually know what the hell they're doing.

[Afrobean]

The Wii isn't a mistake. It's the highest selling console to date. It's just Nintendo took a big shit on all their past fans.
You think so?

I thought their company franchise games on the Wii have been marvelous thus far. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, WarioWare, Paper Mario. All great. Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Amazing. And now they've got a new platformer Wario Land game which looks good and a Kid Icarus comeback on the way. And the Mario and Zelda teams are at work on new games for the Wii.

Sure, the Wii can go down the casual shit line, but the core games are still there. Even games like Wii Sports can be a great deal of fun for a while. I don't think anyone who owns a Wii can honestly say they didn't get at least a little play out of Wii Sports.

EDIT: The only failure I can identify is the lack of memory storage. I wasn't a huge fan of the motion control attack methodology used in Galaxy either, but everyone else loved it, so it can't be so bad. If it were up to me I would have made the game with options, in a way, sort of like how Twilight Princess can be played on a GC disc or Wii depending on if you want motion control or not.

[WandererWillow]

Afro, the reason people are pissed is because the core games WEREN'T there. No mario. No zelda. No kirby. They showed other things, like Wii Music (horrible...simply horrible), and a slew of other games that require the wii fit pad to even play it. More-over, there were no games that ended up being those story-driven games that hardcore gamers enjoy. Raving Rabbids, Animal Crossing, Shaun White Snowboarding, Clone Wars (doesnt count, and looks like shit), Wii Music, Wii Sports Resort...there were no true things that stuck out to the true nintendo fans. I don't want to have to keep buying new add-ons to play every game coming out. Everything that made Nintendo a competitor was missing this year. Go watch the stream on gamespot.com...it was almost insulting. Especially because they claimed at E3 they would have alot of surprises for hardcore gamers.

[Afrobean]

Oh I understand. I misunderstood what they meant. They said "Nintendo took a big shit on all their past fans," and I took it to mean they believed Nintendo has done NO good for their fans, when they just meant "they didn't deliver in this one instance." Either way, even if they fail to deliver right now, they've delivered in the past and they will deliver in the future. Be happy with what you have for now while waiting for the greatness yet to come.


they claimed at E3 they would have alot of surprises for hardcore gamers.
Couldn't there still be more to come? And what about Animal Crossing? Not exactly a new Super Mario game, but it is a respected franchise in its own right.

[WandererWillow]

In my mind, Animal Crossing isn't hardcore. It's like the sims, only in it's own way. The game doesn't have a driven story with deep emotion that keeps you gripped from start to finish. It's meant to be picked up, played whenever, with no end to it...just do what you do. So I guess that really doesn't count.

Still, this E3 was horrible. Their big "announcement" was Wii Music, which was horribly shown on stage, and requires no skill or ability at all. Simply hold the wii-mote like a certain instrument and wiggle like you're playing it, and the game does the rest. They did a huge build-up, then gave us this. It was horrible. People were pissed. It was like the poor man's rock band, and it sounded like the Wentworth School for Epileptic Boys' Middle School Band playing while hit by a strobe light.

[Greg22]

In my mind, Animal Crossing isn't hardcore. It's like the sims, only in it's own way. The game doesn't have a driven story with deep emotion that keeps you gripped from start to finish. It's meant to be picked up, played whenever, with no end to it...just do what you do. So I guess that really doesn't count.

Oh man, what are you talking about? Animal Crossing is some hardcore shit. I've been playing for three years and I don't have a SINGLE weed in my town and I've paid off my WHOLE HOUSE and I have the LARGEST STORE NOOK'S LITTLE RACCOON ARMS CAN MAKE. I also have a million bells, have created dozens and dozens of custom designs, and all of my animal buddies look up to me as an inspiration. That's some hardcore shit right there.

Sorry, I can't stop loling at how Nintendo thinks Animal Crossing is hardcore. It's almost as repetitive as Maple Story.

[Five Second Pose]

What I have to say about this.

WHERE ARE MY POKEMANZ

[WandererWillow]

Pokemon Platinum is coming but when they mentioned it, noone cared. They kind of lost faith in the game after Gold and Silver, I guess.

[Five Second Pose]

Wait, let me clarify, I forgot to post the whole thing. (Lol, nearly typed thong.)

WHEREZ MY POKEMANZ ON WII WORTH PLAYING PBR WUZ SHEET

[Afrobean]

Oh man, what are you talking about? Animal Crossing is some hardcore shit. I've been playing for three years and I don't have a SINGLE weed in my town and I've paid off my WHOLE HOUSE and I have the LARGEST STORE NOOK'S LITTLE RACCOON ARMS CAN MAKE. I also have a million bells, have created dozens and dozens of custom designs, and all of my animal buddies look up to me as an inspiration. That's some hardcore shit right there.

Sorry, I can't stop loling at how Nintendo thinks Animal Crossing is hardcore. It's almost as repetitive as Maple Story.
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The problem is that people feel the coming games don't appeal to core gamers, not that the games aren't "hardcore" enough. Animal Crossing is a light game, but it does appeal to gamers.

[Greg22]

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The problem is that people feel the coming games don't appeal to core gamers, not that the games aren't "hardcore" enough. Animal Crossing is a light game, but it does appeal to gamers.

I loved Animal Crossing. It was one of the few games that I enjoyed playing until I sold my Gamecube, and then I enjoyed it more on my DS until I sold that as well. :<

It's a great game, but seeing a 'hardcore' label being thrown on to it, by the creators of it, really just.. lol.

[Mark]

WTF? Animal Crossing is the most Hardcore game out there. It's the only game in existence that takes a literal year to complete 100%. :excellent:

[WandererWillow]

I GET SO FUCKING PUMPED WHEN I GET NEW FURNITURE TO PUT IN MY HOUSE! TOM NOOK HAS ME BY THE BALLS AND IM PSYCHED! I RUN AROUND AT 2 IN THE MORNING AND WAKE EVERYONE UP BECAUSE, DAMNIT, THEY SHOULD BE UP TOO! CHORES ARE AWESOME! FUCK YEAH! ANIMAL CROSSING AND BULL SHARK TESTOSTERONE IS AWESOME! YEAH! FUCK YEAH!

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I DO NOT HAVE FUNNY BALLS!

</gta iv reference>

[Flintlock]

Threads like these about the Wii only spark up my interest into playing oldschool emus instead. >_>

*proceeds to finish Battletoa- fuck I died already.*

[Alloy]

I GET SO FUCKING PUMPED WHEN I GET NEW FURNITURE TO PUT IN MY HOUSE! TOM NOOK HAS ME BY THE BALLS AND IM PSYCHED! I RUN AROUND AT 2 IN THE MORNING AND WAKE EVERYONE UP BECAUSE, DAMNIT, THEY SHOULD BE UP TOO! CHORES ARE AWESOME! FUCK YEAH! ANIMAL CROSSING AND BULL SHARK TESTOSTERONE IS AWESOME! YEAH! FUCK YEAH!

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I DO NOT HAVE FUNNY BALLS!

</gta iv reference>

If that was Animal Crossing really, it'd be EPIC.

Also, yeah, the Wii has potential, but my guess is that the developers' ideas were about a fantastic motion sensor, truly accurate. But wait, they showed that fantastic motion sensor instead... So, nothing for now, maybe waiting for that.

However, they should have had something prepared for now...

[WandererWillow]

This is my idea for a trailer for a hardcore version of Animal Crossing...

The train stops and the main character steps off. The town is dark and has an evil feel to it almost. An odd fog has set as the character walks into it.

A flash of Tom Nook, voiced in a mafioso-style way, talking about how he's got a place for you to stay, but it's going to cost you, and it's not going to be cheap.

The main character is digging a hole in the ground, finding the remains of Mr Resetti. A voiceover for the main character says "I know something is going on here...there's more than people wish to see."

The main character watches Copper and Booker shaking down K. K. Slider, then beat him with their nightsticks.

Tortimer shakes his head as he looks at the main character, saying the town is corrupt, and there is no way to change that.

The main character talks to the female aligator, telling her how he isn't going to take this anymore. This all ends now.

A silhouette of the main character walking away with a shovel over shoulder, as a bloodied tom nook lays dead infront of his store, which has been set ablaze.

The title image hits..."Animal Crossing: City Folk"...

It ends with a heavy downpour in a field, the main character filling a hole he dug. The camera pans up and you see dozens of holes, all of them filled with a body, as he fills one of the holes with dirt.

FUCK YEAH, ANIMAL CROSSING!

[Five Second Pose]

I lol'd. Willow, that was random. :redface:

[Greg22]

I think we all agree that Bob the cat is the only cool villager, mirite?

And Hambo. Fuck yeah, Hambo.

[Cardboardsnail]

I can imagine the wii being a great system for FPS games.
Sadly, that's not happening right now :(

At least the Wii Virtual Console is good.

[Arcanum]

I think this sums up the three conferences quite well

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080716.jpg

[»-Chris->]

This is my idea for a trailer for a hardcore version of Animal Crossing...

The train stops and the main character steps off. The town is dark and has an evil feel to it almost. An odd fog has set as the character walks into it.

A flash of Tom Nook, voiced in a mafioso-style way, talking about how he's got a place for you to stay, but it's going to cost you, and it's not going to be cheap.

The main character is digging a hole in the ground, finding the remains of Mr Resetti. A voiceover for the main character says "I know something is going on here...there's more than people wish to see."

The main character watches Copper and Booker shaking down K. K. Slider, then beat him with their nightsticks.

Tortimer shakes his head as he looks at the main character, saying the town is corrupt, and there is no way to change that.

The main character talks to the female aligator, telling her how he isn't going to take this anymore. This all ends now.

A silhouette of the main character walking away with a shovel over shoulder, as a bloodied tom nook lays dead infront of his store, which has been set ablaze.

The title image hits..."Animal Crossing: City Folk"...

It ends with a heavy downpour in a field, the main character filling a hole he dug. The camera pans up and you see dozens of holes, all of them filled with a body, as he fills one of the holes with dirt.

FUCK YEAH, ANIMAL CROSSING!
Wow, I'd buy that. =D