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IsaacGS

2009-04-07, 04:45 PM

Beginning to post the extraction. Get ready, this is some weird stuff.

The new class has a Job ID that starts with 2000. The standard set of classes is 0000, and the Cygnus are 1000, so that would lead me to believe this is a new race. This would also make the Race Select screen make more sense, since it's rather pointless with just 2 options. I suspect, but can't prove, that this is the Cygnus opposition group, what we've referred to as "The Black Magician's Disciples" thus far.
Classes with "1" in the hundreds place of the ID are typically warriors, so that's what I imagine this will be.

Note that these have no strings, so it's near impossible to tell what's going on.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/skill.0001012.icon.png
This isn't a normal skill. The animation is similar to Monster Rider's. Has two levels:
MP -22, 10 DEF, 10MDEF
MP -24, 20 DEF, 20MDEF

For some reason, this has an expiration date on April 10th. It's probably used in the "Save Gaga" PQ thing.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001000.icon.png
Three Snails
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001001.icon.png
Recovery
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001002.icon.png
Nimble Feet
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001003.icon.png
Legendary Spirit
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001004.icon.png
Monster Rider
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001005.icon.png
Hero's Echo
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001006.icon.png
Jump Down (doesn't show in the Skill book)
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001007.icon.png
Maker
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001009.icon.png
ML Dojo skill (Doesn't show in Skillbook)
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001010.icon.png
ML Dojo skill (Doesn't show in Skillbook)
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001011.icon.png
ML Dojo skill (Doesn't show in Skillbook)
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20000012.icon.png
Blessing of the Sprite
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2000.img/skill.20001013.icon.png
Tutorial Summon (From Ereb, doesn't show in the skillbook)

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2100.img/skill.21000000.icon.png
Increasing Max HP
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2100.img/skill.21000002.icon.png
Flash Fist (?) this... This is ID indicates a passive skill. The skill data makes no sense.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2100.img/skill.21001001.icon.png
Dash
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2100.img/skill.21001003.icon.png
Pole Arm Booster Special Animation.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2100.img/2100.img.skill.21001003.effect.gif

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21100000.icon.png
Pole Arm Mastery
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21100001.icon.png
Soul Blade #1 There are two of these. Don't ask me. The animation for this one is really odd, it looks like... well, look down there. The animation is called "tripleAttack", and it hits 6 mobs at all levels. The Damage percent is low, so I think this may be a multi hit attack.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21100001.effect.3.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21100002.icon.png
Rush This Rush, at max, hits 10 monsters for 90% damage, costs 40 MP. Seems like a high cost for a second job warrior.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21101003.icon.png
Rage This rage animation has "affected mob" animations for stun. Attack up AND stun monsters?
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21100004.icon.png
Soul Blade #2 This one is more like the real soul Blade, complete with a pole arm animation. The animation is called "PoleArm Smash". 400% damage on 10 mobs at max.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/2110.img.skill.21100004.ball.gif
Projectile
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/2110.img.skill.21100004.effect0.gif
Slash effect
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2110.img/skill.21100005.icon.png
Drain Don't get how this works... It has no probability rating, an "x" I can't identify, and a timer. A drain buff?

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110000.icon.png
Sharp Eyes
This SE... it has a prerequisite. Care to guess? no? it's prerequisite is ITSELF. you must have level 10 SE to put a point into SE. what... the... I don't... The damage boost is only 10% at MAX. This seems really pointless.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21111001.icon.png
Power Knockback
What is this I don't even... It's got a timer. The animation is of Combo orbs being consumed, like you're about to cast coma or panic, but no attack.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110002.icon.png
Pole Arm Fury
No data on this like... at all. nothing. Not even copied data.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110003.icon.png
coma
This skill has insane MP costs. At level 29, it's 150 MP. At level 30, though, it drops to 20. 110% damage on 6 mobs... seems weak.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110004.icon.png
Soul Driver
The best skill I've seen in this yet. 600% damage on 10 mobs. 400 range. This is the wolf animation, called "Phantom".
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/2111.img.skill.21110004.ball.gif
Projectile
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/2111.img.skill.21110004.hit.0.gif
hit
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/2111.img.skill.21110004.effect0.gif
effect
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21111005.icon.png
Ice Charge
It still seems the same... but for Pole arms.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/2111.img.skill.21111005.effect.gif
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110006.icon.png
Assassinate
130% damage on 12 monsters at max... only 130 range though. The animation here looks like Soul Driver.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110007.icon.png
Pole Arm Fury
75% damage, 2 hits, on 6 mobs. This animation is called "FullSwingDouble". it's set to invisible so... quest?
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2111.img/skill.21110008.icon.png
Pole Arm Crusher
150% damage on 6 mobs. Seems... pointless? with the other skill being 75%*2. It's invisible as well, and called "FullSwingTriple". The animation is assassinate...

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120000.icon.png
Maple Warrior
Regular old Maple Warrior.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120001.icon.png
Energy Charge
This boosts Mastery to 90%. Crazy.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120002.icon.png
Pole Arm Fury
The only data present is that it's supposed to be 30 levels.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21121003.icon.png
Stance
This is 90% success, 300 seconds, 50 MP.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120004.icon.png
Achilles
Regular Achilles
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120005.icon.png
Pole Arm Fury
Someone at Nexon Korea has a fetish for this icon. It's all over the damn place. Animation for this one is called "PoleArm Finish". 60 MP, 400% damage on 12 mobs at max. this is the bear claw attack.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/Bear%20attack.gif

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120005.effect.2.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120005.effect.5.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120005.effect.8.png

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120006.icon.png
Blizzard
Yes, this is the same blizzard. 500% damage on 12 mobs at level 1, 800% on 16 at max. I don't get... it has a time factor as well. 40 seconds at max... No MP cost. Don't really get it.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120007.icon.png
Shield Mastery
This skill doesn't make sense either... 120 seconds at max, but... it also has a decreasing "x" value. The Animation looks like Holy Shield.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21121008.icon.png
Hero's Will
Has 5 levels.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120009.icon.png
Pole Arm Fury... again...
90% damage, 2 hits, 6 mobs... at max. Animation is called "overswing Double"
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/2112.img.skill.21120009.afterimage.poleArm.overSwi ngDouble.0.gif
Effect
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/skill.21120010.icon.png
Pole Arm Crusher
This one actually looks and works like Pole Arm Crusher, but it's red. 90% damage, 2 hits, 6 mobs... at max, same as above. "Overswing Triple" is the name.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/2112.img.skill.21120010.afterimage.poleArm.overSwi ngTriple.6.gif
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Skills/2112.img/2112.img.skill.21120010.effect0.gif

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Mob/9300331.img/die1.8.png
Gaga
Boss
level 10
HP 10
MP 10
speed 0
Physical Attack 10
Weapon Defense 10
Magic Attack 10
Magic Defense 10
accuracy 10
Avoid 10
exp 10
KB 10

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Mob/9300332.img/stand.0.png
Event Barnard Gray
level 40
HP 1930
MP 130
speed -10
Physical Attack 120
Weapon Defense 140
Magic Attack 140
Magic Defense 160
accuracy 170
Avoid 18
exp 95
KB 0

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Mob/9300334.img/stand.0.png
Event Chief Gray
Resistant to Ice, Fire, Lightning, and Holy
level 49
HP 9000
MP 220
speed -60
Physical Attack 140
Weapon Defense 140
Magic Attack 180
Magic Defense 250
accuracy 140
Avoid 25
exp 580
undead 0
KB 0

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Mob/9300335.img/stand.0.png
Event Mateon
level 41
HP 2080
MP 150
speed -40
Physical Attack 130
Weapon Defense 120
Magic Attack 135
Magic Defense 120
accuracy 160
Avoid 16
exp 99
undead 0
KB 0

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Mob/9300336.img/stand.0.png
Event Mecateon
level 46
HP 2600
MP 170
speed -50
Physical Attack 135
Weapon Defense 160
Magic Attack 158
Magic Defense 210
accuracy 180
Avoid 20
exp 110
undead 0
KB 300

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Mob/9300337.img/stand.0.png
Event Mecateon
level 46
HP 2600
MP 170
speed -50
Physical Attack 135
Weapon Defense 160
Magic Attack 158
Magic Defense 210
accuracy 180
Avoid 20
exp 110
undead 0
KB 300

So they modified the "ghost" of every skin tone. Now, under certain conditions, when you die, you appear in a Plateon style UFO.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Character/ghostwalk.2.0.body.png
This is probably for use in the Omega Sector "PQ" type thing. If you die while trying to save Gaga, then you turn into this.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Character/01142100.img/info.icon.png
6th Anniversary Medal
Time limited, one of a kind, untradeable
STR +4
INT +4
DEX +4
LUK +4
ATT +3
MATT +3
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Character/01142100.img/info.icon.png
6th Anniversary Medal
adds nothing.

http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Character/01082252.img/info.icon.png
Maple Glove
Trade Available (Karma Scissors)
Level 13
Weapon Defense +10
5 slots

There's 2 new copies of the Battleship. Not sure... Could this be early signs of the 2000 race's mounts?

Doesn't look like they've added all the UFO maps yet. Just one.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/Map/922240000.img/miniMap.canvas.png
Lonnnngggggg map. "Swim" is set in this map, so it has low gravity. Probably need to fly from one side to the other. Doesn't explain the platforms though.

Not much else changed here.

You get a blank scroll, then it grows like the chicken eggs until a picture appears.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/UI/raise.20.4.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/UI/raise.21.4.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/UI/raise.22.4.png

This is all that's worth mentioning.

Corn

2009-04-07, 04:47 PM

"Blessing of the Sprite"

Looks like it gets benefits from the Cygnus too, just like the original class.

Erich

2009-04-07, 04:48 PM

"Blessing of the Sprite"

Looks like it gets benefits from the Cygnus too, just like the original class.

Every class has that, it isnt related to cygnus.

Sarah

2009-04-07, 04:49 PM

This is sooooo exciting *giggles*

Corn

2009-04-07, 04:50 PM

Every class has that, it isnt related to cygnus.

This is a new "type" of class. Not a sixth "original" class.

This new "type" of class looks like it's getting Cygnus benefits too, despite not being an "original" class.

Clarified?

Loose

2009-04-07, 04:51 PM

Hot damn diggity!

I like where this is heading!

Erich

2009-04-07, 04:51 PM

This is a new "type" of class. Not a sixth "original" class.

This new "type" of class looks like it's getting Cygnus benefits too, despite not being an "original" class.

Clarified?

Not needed, that isnt a cygnus benefit, it is a standard passive skill.

modular

2009-04-07, 04:52 PM

i cant wait for more info :goggle:

Corn

2009-04-07, 04:52 PM

Not needed, that isnt a cygnus benefit, it is a standard passive skill.

I just lost you. What?

Erich

2009-04-07, 04:54 PM

Lets cut cygnus out of this completly. Lets say you have to adventurers. One is level 50 and one 120. The level 50 one gets 12 blessing and the 120 5 blessing. Get the picture?

It was related to cygnus. They just raped and destroyed it though.

Corn

2009-04-07, 04:55 PM

Lerk

2009-04-07, 04:57 PM

Why would they include blessing in this class if it wasn't going to be used at all?

Two words.

Copy.
Paste.

Corn

2009-04-07, 04:59 PM

Two words.

Copy.
Paste.

Makes much more sense IMO that this new type of class benefits from Blessing.

Erich

2009-04-07, 05:01 PM

Ah god its complicated, it has nothing to do with race at all, its the same if you had 3 adventurers or 3 cygnus or 3 of this. Or a mix.

But yes, lets hope this is epic. l>for new black magician town.

Sarah

2009-04-07, 05:04 PM

Why would they include blessing in this class if it wasn't going to be used at all?

He's saying the blessing no longer has anything to do with a cygnus character.

If you have two adventurers ONLY, they will still receive the blessing from one another. The same would apply to this group of characters. They can get blessings from each other and other classes, presumably.

KatanaKiwi

2009-04-07, 05:19 PM

revival from level 200 into new something anyone? idunno it sounds orriginal, total guess though :P

Corn

2009-04-07, 05:20 PM

He's saying the blessing no longer has anything to do with a cygnus character.

If you have two adventurers ONLY, they will still receive the blessing from one another. The same would apply to this group of characters. They can get blessings from each other and other classes, presumably.

And this was my point in the first post :f7:.

silverquiver

2009-04-07, 05:43 PM

Hmm a new race. Would be cool if they were elf-ish or orks.
Maple needs different race.

EDIT: 200th POST!

Russt

2009-04-07, 05:46 PM

Blessing used to be Cygnus-Adventurer. Now, it's anything - Adventurer-Adventurer, Cygnus-Adventurer, Cygnus-Cygnus, Adventurer-"2000", Cygnus-"2000", whatever.

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 05:48 PM

this one is more like the real soul blade, complete with a pole arm animation. The animation is called "polearm smash". 400% damage on 10 mobs at max.

Wut?

Loose

2009-04-07, 05:50 PM

Wut?
It's a trap, probably?

Consume your soul with every use?

IllegallySane

2009-04-07, 05:53 PM

Hmm, Polearm Booster at 1st, Drain buff at 2nd, 4,000% polearm attack at 2nd. :goggle:

The 2nd Soul Blade automatically invalidates the first one in terms of sheer power. I wonder what's up with that.

Lugin

2009-04-07, 05:57 PM

Hmm... it'd be helpful if we could see Soul Blade #2 animated, but as it stands right now, it reminds me of Heaven's Hammer very strongly.

Also, it is possible that they plan to do an alternate class for each weapon?
Seeing how this one uses polearms, and each Cygnus is only allowed one weapon.

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 05:57 PM

Hmm, Polearm Booster at 1st, Drain buff at 2nd, 4,000% polearm attack at 2nd. :goggle:

The 2nd Soul Blade automatically invalidates the first one in terms of shear power. I wonder what's up with that.

Seems to be forced slash too.

IllegallySane

2009-04-07, 06:00 PM

Seems to be forced slash too.

Doesn't matter. 10 x 400% = 4,000. Even if the 1st Soul Blade is 6 x 600%, it's only 3,600%. Point being, hitting 10 mobs with 400% damage each is insanely overpowered.

Baklava

2009-04-07, 06:01 PM

ULTIMA CLASS GOD TIER.

I called it.

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 06:02 PM

Doesn't matter. 10 x 400% = 4,000. Even if the 1st Soul Blade is 6 x 600%, it's only 3,600%. Point being, hitting 10 mobs with 400% damage each is insanely overpowered.

How does it not matter? You're just comparing the two. I'm only talking about the 4000% one. 4000% at a time with a pole arm that's forced slash not to mention they get rush? They're obviously going to get that shit nerfed like hell but still...

Loose

2009-04-07, 06:04 PM

bored4ever86

2009-04-07, 06:05 PM

ULTIMA CLASS GOD TIER.

I called it.

Requirements to create, 3 lvl 200 chars on the same account, 3lvl 120 cygnus's on same account, and max mesos used in creation of char... (thats maybe 1% in KMS?)

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 06:06 PM

Flash Fist skill thing, since it's passive, I'm thinking it might be like Energy Charge, but it's just to charge a bar.

When that bar is filled up, you can use one of those other, powerful skills. After you use one of those, you consume your bar and must charge it again, sorta like Super Combos (or whatever they're called) in Marvel vs Capcom, etc, games.

That's the conclusion I've come up with to this thing.

That makes no sense in that they won't have an attack skill in 1st job though. I was thinking something like that but instead having it so that you have to pull off 3 consecutive attacks using the first blade to activate pole arm smash.

»-Chris->

2009-04-07, 06:09 PM

Seems interesting... Hmmm.

Nikkey

2009-04-07, 06:10 PM

Doesn't matter. 10 x 400% = 4,000. Even if the 1st Soul Blade is 6 x 600%, it's only 3,600%. Point being, hitting 10 mobs with 400% damage each is insanely overpowered.

hmm. Polearms are warrior only, so they may make an uberlow attack-PA for this class or something?

IsaacGS

2009-04-07, 06:13 PM

They use regular pole arms.
Again, this is a race, it's going to use the same weapons that are out.

Almost all the skills I've looked at hit large numbers of monsters (10 and 12, very few single target skills). They also have huge MP costs (40,50, 150MP for one skill. For a regular warrior this is prohibitively expensive). No doubt this is definitely going to be a Pole Arm warrior class.

mrcowcow

2009-04-07, 06:14 PM

From the images I've seen so far, it looks pretty sweet. But since we don't have enough information as of now, it's up to our creative minds to just speculate. And since we're almost certainly getting Cygnus before this... I just lost my train of though. o_o

Just a question, if there's an answer. Does this thing need to originally be linked to another character, like Cygnus ones?

IllegallySane

2009-04-07, 06:16 PM

Seriously, what's up with this class? 6 mobs attacks, 10 mob attacks, 12 mob attacks; many have really high multipliers, and some are AoE (Soul Driver is one). It's like they are trying to create a Archmage version of a warrior.

ItzTaylor

2009-04-07, 06:17 PM

They are starting to to have major changes in MapleStory lately. Weird. It's like it's a whole new game.

Or not. :P

EngelRod

2009-04-07, 06:18 PM

Wow I can't wait to see more info about this, it looks really cool but the skills right now look totally weird. :goggle:

Kirov

2009-04-07, 06:19 PM

Serendipity

2009-04-07, 06:25 PM

Hmmm....no mention of it in the patch update notes on the official site.
Just something about 6th anniversary events and pic changes for maple spear.

IllegallySane

2009-04-07, 06:27 PM

I wouldn’t worry too much about the %’s they will no doubt adjust them. The possible passive drain skill sounds really interesting. With all the different attacks and buffs this class seems way to godly. I’m really interested to see how it will turn out in the end, and what more is to come.

And don't forget. It's got a 4th job tier as well. Really crazy stuff. This really makes me tempted, gonna stock up on polearms then. A warrior with speed (Dash/Flash Jump + 2nd job Rush) is very hot.

Sylphior

2009-04-07, 06:31 PM

honestly, it just looks like a mix of all the warrior classes. idk, we need more details before we can actually discuss this.

Cyanne

2009-04-07, 06:38 PM

Hopefully this won't be rushed like the cygnus classes were.

Fiel

2009-04-07, 06:40 PM

Wut?

It's ranged. It has a range of 300 and fires out a "ball" animation.

MasPan

2009-04-07, 06:44 PM

POLEARMS. USEFUL/STRONG. *spaz*

Melancholy

2009-04-07, 06:45 PM

Hmmmmm
This is definitely going to get changed around a lot before it even hits KMST lol.

Combattente

2009-04-07, 06:54 PM

Hmmmmm
This is definitely going to get changed around a lot before it even hits KMST lol.

Definitely.

Also, woot for new race!

I'm wondering what will come out of it.. maybe a new town, too.. something like Ereb..

Bere, maybe?

And if this is the Black Magician's Disciples race.. well, I won't even try it, because I dislike Black Magician.. :f6:

Teppi

2009-04-07, 07:00 PM

Yes, this is the same blizzard. 500% damage on 12 mobs at level 1, 800% on 16 at max. I don't get... it has a time factor as well. 40 seconds at max... No MP cost. Don't really get it.
im starting to believe that this is ice-based HEAVEN'S HAMMER attack, anyone thinking the same idea?

Corn

2009-04-07, 07:01 PM

im starting to believe that this is ice-based HEAVEN'S HAMMER attack, anyone thinking the same idea?

He means that it's a support skill...like magic armor, power guard, meditate, focus, etc. etc.

Dystopiq

2009-04-07, 07:02 PM

Gotta make Polearms useful. Why not have Gods wield it? Also that wolf animation made my heart stop and punch me in the face...freakin' sweet.

Also I hope this is a Disciple. I want to be able to play as the bad guys.

crewe127

2009-04-07, 07:02 PM

A new warrior class? O_O
Spirit Channeler?

Kabanaw

2009-04-07, 07:06 PM

Wha-

Buh-

A-

This makes absolutely no sense. I defenitely think we need to wait for this class to come out before jumping to any conclusions.

Corn

2009-04-07, 07:07 PM

Poor Gaga.

(Monster extractions are up).

Dystopiq

2009-04-07, 07:08 PM

Tell me my dream is coming true? Antagonist class and Omega updates....

Stereo

2009-04-07, 07:08 PM

im starting to believe that this is ice-based HEAVEN'S HAMMER attack, anyone thinking the same idea?

Could be like WK charges used to be, deal some magic damage when you cast them and then give a passive buff.

Erich

2009-04-07, 07:15 PM

IsaacGS

2009-04-07, 07:18 PM

I freaking lol'd at the "Someone at Nexon Korea has a fetish for this icon" thing.

And lol@gaga. He has been taken by dem aliens.

Spadow also mentioned a level 1 boss being added with 2090000000 HP. Anything on that?
It's invisible and unkillable, why mention it?

also this wouldn't fit in the first post but I think it's worth seeing:

So yeah. Check this out.
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.0.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.1.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.2.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.3.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.4.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.5.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.6.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.7.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.8.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.9.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.0.Combo.0.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.0.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.1.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.2.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.3.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.4.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.5.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.6.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.7.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.8.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.9.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.1.Combo.0.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.0.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.1.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.2.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.3.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.4.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.5.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.6.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.7.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.8.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.9.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.2.Combo.0.png
http://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.0.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.1.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.2.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.3.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.4.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.5.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.6.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.7.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.8.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.9.0.pnghttp://www.southperry.net/Pictures/KMST/217/BasicEff.img/Combo.3.Combo.0.png

Combo System?

Loose

2009-04-07, 07:28 PM

Combo System?

Hope it's like LaTale, that the higher your combo gets, the more EXP you gain per monster.

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 07:31 PM

Combo System?

Hope it's like LaTale, that the higher your combo gets, the more EXP you gain per monster.

*Hits 15 skeles with genesis*

You've gained experience (+ 100,000!)

Oh god no. >_>

Pokerman

2009-04-07, 07:37 PM

*Hits 15 skeles with genesis*

You've gained experience (+ 100,000!)

Oh god no. >_>

That, my friend, would only be considered 1 hit.

By combo, I'm pretty sure it means like you use savage blow, then assaulter, and so on. Without stopping.

modular

2009-04-07, 07:42 PM

Also I hope this is a Disciple. I want to be able to play as the bad guys.

something tells me no because it has 4th job. cygnus only goes to 3rd. disciples of the black magician probably would too.

IsaacGS

2009-04-07, 07:46 PM

something tells me no because it has 4th job. cygnus only goes to 3rd. disciples of the black magician probably would too.
When you look at the Race Select screen, you see it has "star" ratings. One is difficulty. The difficulty on Cygnus is low, and that of Adventurers is medium. It's logical that a third group would have high. Seems silly to rule it out just because Cygnus only gets 3.

Baklava

2009-04-07, 07:50 PM

Providence

2009-04-07, 07:57 PM

The new Polearm Booster most likely works like the Soul Warrior's Sword Booster.

So says me.

MetaSeraphim

2009-04-07, 08:00 PM

Excuse the stupid question. But what are Adventurers? I'm guessing it is a class, but other than that I know nothing about them.

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 08:00 PM

Excuse the stupid question. But what are Adventurers? I'm guessing it is a class, but other than that I know nothing about them.

New name for the normal 5 classes. (pirates, mages, warriors, thieves, archers)

modular

2009-04-07, 08:05 PM

When you look at the Race Select screen, you see it has "star" ratings. One is difficulty. The difficulty on Cygnus is low, and that of Adventurers is medium. It's logical that a third group would have high. Seems silly to rule it out just because Cygnus only gets 3.

heh, at such an early stage any speculation is probably silly. >.<
that said, id say cygnuses deserve a lower difficulty rating than adventurers because of all those nice quests they get and the fact that each one gets very powerful skills a whole job level before adventurer equivalents. up the power level and playing gets easier. if these are supposed to be high difficulty, why so many borked skills? imo, high difficulty is leveling a beginner to 120 without leeching all the way. or any 1st or 2nd job class. not screenbreaker skills that do 4000%... in 2nd job. (eh, i know theyll change it.)

Corn

2009-04-07, 08:06 PM

heh, at such an early stage any speculation is probably silly. >.<
that said, id say cygnuses deserve a lower difficulty rating than adventurers because of all those nice quests they get and the fact that each one gets very powerful skills a whole job level before adventurer equivalents. up the power level and playing gets easier. if these are supposed to be high difficulty, why so many borked skills? imo, high difficulty is leveling a beginner to 120 without leeching all the way. or any 1st or 2nd job class. not screenbreaker skills that do 4000%... in 2nd job. (eh, i know theyll change it.)

We don't know anything about them yet. They could be MP Warriors for all we know.

IsaacGS

2009-04-07, 08:08 PM

We don't know anything about them yet. They could be MP Warriors for all we know.
They use regular polearms, so they probably need the same stat build as normal.

They modified all the Polearm "afterimages" to be compatible with this new job, including adding ice effects for Charge. It's pretty much certain they use normal weapons, just like Cygnus.

JoeTang

2009-04-07, 08:10 PM

The new Polearm Booster most likely works like the Soul Warrior's Sword Booster.

So says me.

What's different about Soul Warrior's Sword Booster?

Takebacker

2009-04-07, 08:13 PM

What's different about Soul Warrior's Sword Booster?

Animation, i believe. Effect is the same, which is the same thing as this new one. New animation, same effect.

IllegallySane

2009-04-07, 08:21 PM

These kinds of things make me wish that at the very least there can be aesthetic changes to older classes. Who'd like a flashier Lucky 7 or Power Strike? They've (kMS) really gotten better at designing skills, power/flavor-wise as well as how awesome it looks.

BEAR Fury, and WOLF Driver. Enough said. Those sprites look like they will take up a 1/5 of the screen when implemented.

*Not to mention a "Shield Mastery" finally done right! Damage reduction instead of this weapon defense bullshit.

Aggravate

2009-04-07, 08:29 PM

Wow, pretty speechless.. Some kind of flashy Pole Arm Master with overpowered mobbing and everything. It makes the original 5 classes look like s`hit.

Dyxanije

2009-04-07, 08:32 PM

Soul Driver looks bad ass.

IsaacGS

2009-04-07, 08:37 PM

Wow, pretty speechless.. Some kind of flashy Pole Arm Master with overpowered mobbing and everything. It makes the original 5 classes look like s`hit.
If we learned anything from Cygnus, it's that by the time they're done testing they won't be worth playing.

Soul Driver looks bad ass.
temporary name, based on the Skill icon.

Dyxanije

2009-04-07, 08:40 PM

temporary name, based on the Skill icon.

But still, that doesn't make it look less cool. Wolf based skills are auto-win in my book.

Devil

2009-04-07, 09:14 PM

Hmmm it seems to me that it's the dark version of the Soul Warrior from Cygnus. Ice charge, Purple colored attack with wolves, etc...

Maybe it has reversed Cygnus game mechanics, max lvl200, 4th job, 3AP's/2SP's per lvlup? But insane powerfull skills to make lvling a bit easier? Who knows... :P

Sn1perJohnE

2009-04-07, 11:47 PM

for some reason, a pole staff using Monk pops to mind with that new class @-a

EDIT: which, by looking at the skills...has magic powers? Avatar anyone?

Fiel

2009-04-08, 12:03 AM

rapidpoop:

http://rapidshare.com/files/218745191/skill.rar.html

Sn1perJohnE

2009-04-08, 12:09 AM

foiled by dial-up again :c|

Chameleonic

2009-04-08, 12:25 AM

Sn1perJohnE

2009-04-08, 01:04 AM

High difficulty, Impossible!! There's nothing harder than leveling a Marksman!!:f3:

There's some weird things going on with Maple recently...

Perma noobs would beg to differ i think @_@

Turtally

2009-04-08, 01:19 AM

Huh. Rather dodgy. I'd like to see where this heads.

Roads

2009-04-08, 03:35 AM

long map is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG

anyway, I like this Pole Arm's Warrior.. I hope to see more like this..

well, actually..
Obviously we'll have more. just like when we had just the Striker. :goggle:
but good start. very good start.

MasPan

2009-04-08, 04:50 AM

I wonder why a 2h weapon using class would have shield mastery? *dreams of 1h polearms*

DrRusty

2009-04-08, 05:25 AM

does this class have any good single target attacks? It seems like all they have are mob skills.

KatanaKiwi

2009-04-08, 05:31 AM

they go to at least level 200 see'ing they get maple warrior, 4th job, and stuff like that..

why again cant this be a 6th unique job or something? see'ing they get to level to 200 i dont think its a cygnus type of job.
oh the opposite of cygnus race seems to be a logical explaination isaac but

can you provide us perhaps with some more explaination on the storyline of the cygnus class? this is the first time i hear of an opposite race (well i did know the cygnus where recruiting cause of some war again the black magician but still).
is there maybe anything in the storyline that can tell us more?

Milelke

2009-04-08, 08:05 AM

I smell overpowerd...

Anyway, IMO, it looks like a completely new class... or 'race'.
1/2 TL:DR

What i dont understand is what Omega Sector has to do with anything (PQ?)

Potora

2009-04-08, 08:12 AM

600% damage.
10 monsters at once.
3rd job skill?!

-dies-

Looks like it'll lag people if it's spammable though. :f3:

DrRusty

2009-04-08, 08:12 AM

I smell overpowerd...

Anyway, IMO, it looks like a completely new class... or 'race'.
1/2 TL:DR

What i dont understand is what Omega Sector has to do with anything (PQ?)

lol overpowered? This class looks extremely weak to me. Their skills are saying like 150% and 90% x 2? Doesn't seem very powerful to me. They seem like a warrior class with a bunch of ultimate type skills. Their bossing ability looks to me like it's going to be pretty crappy.

Milelke

2009-04-08, 08:16 AM

600% damage.
10 monsters at once.
3rd job skill?!

-dies-

Looks like it'll lag people if it's spammable though. :f3:
Its probably not spammable.. probably, you never know.

Kirov

2009-04-08, 08:38 AM

That maple glove looks awesome, pointless but awesome.

Hopefully this won't be rushed like the Cygnus classes were.

Amen to that. Can't believe how rushed Cygnus was. But now they are staring this new race what like 4 months after Cygnus were released, not to mention they keep changing aspects of Cygnus all the time.

Combo System?

Hope it's like LaTale, that the higher your combo gets, the more EXP you gain per monster.

Buc's and shadowers will pwn everyone then.

Animation, i believe. Effect is the same, which is the same thing as this new one. New animation, same effect.

If you are talking about soul masters then they just have a normal booster animation.

rapidpoop:

http://rapidshare.com/files/218745191/skill.rar.html

Who are the 10 papayas that used up the download link. :f4:

Kawasari Mimoto

2009-04-08, 08:45 AM

Fuck yeah PADKs! More reasons for me to replay my PADK, or to make a new one! Red-colored Pole Arm Crusher, huh? . . . I made this signature a while back when I played my DK...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/KGM/Ebikyo_signature.png

xLeviathan

2009-04-08, 09:07 AM

Ohmylawd. 600% damage on 10 monsters? LOLBRB1HKOZAK.

...No, j/k, but that's some hot animations.

CionS101

2009-04-08, 12:45 PM

ZOMG!! I LIKE THE WOLF ATTACK SKILL, LOOKS SO COOL!!

btw, this looks like something like a mix of all adventurers don't u think?

Loose

2009-04-08, 01:38 PM

Hmm... maybe Vikings?

Baklava

2009-04-08, 01:42 PM

Hmm... maybe Vikings?

http://lib.lbcc.edu/handouts/images/Vikings/vikings3.jpg

I can dig it.

Teppi

2009-04-08, 02:42 PM

they probably mixing it up
fast lvling warrior with good mob skills
good dps mages
fast attk pirates
supporting bow + thief?
lol?

IllegallySane

2009-04-08, 02:47 PM

http://lib.lbcc.edu/handouts/images/Vikings/vikings3.jpg

I can dig it.

THIS I can dig, it'd fit with the whole mobbing warrior perspective:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/7/75/Horace.jpg :heart:

Baklava

2009-04-08, 05:05 PM

THIS I can dig, it'd fit with the whole mobbing warrior perspective:

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/7/75/Horace.jpg :heart:

But that's not a viking.

Sylphior

2009-04-08, 07:06 PM

is that from the new(well, really old remade) Fire Emblem?

IllegallySane

2009-04-08, 07:38 PM

But that's not a viking.

But.. but.. he's so shiny and tough. :f4:

is that from the new(well, really old remade) Fire Emblem?

New one (for the DS). Shadow Dragon. Guy's name is Horace. He's a mediocre to okay General.

Zpyke

2009-04-09, 01:23 AM

I'm going to take an educated guess and label this the opposite of cygnus. They'll probably bring it down to 120 or, as Devil said, less ap per level.
My reasoning for this is because of blizzard, etc. That might not be pole arm, and if it is, it's still the opposite of the flame cygnus knight. Wolves are most likely snow wolves, and that could be a polar bear. The blizzard could be ice charge possibly.

As for the map that's way too long, those ledges could have something that pops out and sends you back to the beginning, or you can stand on them to make them happen. Either obstacle or quest/goal item.

What's with the scrolls, exactly? :f6:

Nikkey

2009-04-09, 02:18 AM

JoeTang

2009-04-09, 03:29 AM

He's a mediocre to okay General.

Okay, I loled.

Dusk

2009-04-09, 07:31 AM

On the really big map, I'm guessing you have to cross to the other side while a hoard of aliens fly around and attack you. The platforms are to help classes that need them?

MasPan

2009-04-09, 10:05 AM

I'm glad it doesn't have even a nerfed form of HB, or I'd be useless in comparison...

Alloy

2009-04-09, 10:23 AM

I'm glad it doesn't have even a nerfed form of HB, or I'd be useless in comparison...

If it had something that stacks with hb, you'd be even adored.

Takebacker

2009-04-09, 10:51 AM

If it had something that stacks with hb, you'd be even adored.

If the shield thing is a party skill that reduces damage by a % i'm pretty sure both classes will be adored no matter the boss situation.

Sylphior

2009-04-09, 11:44 AM

idk even know where they're going with these skills. -__-

also steve, shouldn't you change your server from "Windia" to "Khaini" now? abandoning me -__-

IllegallySane

2009-04-09, 11:51 AM

Okay, I loled.

But it's true Horace is not top tier material. Class swap Wolf or Sedgar for a better General. :goggle:

I'm glad it doesn't have even a nerfed form of HB, or I'd be useless in comparison...

Nerfed would suck more, because ranged needs every single point of HP to survive hits at bosses. If it were me, I'd still love DrKs for +60%s.

I'm very sure the shield thing would stack. Otherwise it'd screw over active damage reductions like Power Guard and Invincible. Lord knows it'd make no sense to make certain classes MORE fragile.

odin

2009-04-09, 12:15 PM

It seems KMST its implementing lots of new content lately, and IMO that its trying to revamp the game with the Cygnus/Black Mage classes ... nice news.

Zpyke

2009-04-09, 05:11 PM

So why 4th job for them?

Because, as Isaac said, there's no 5 star difficulty class yet. Getting to 200 is difficult enough, much less with lower ap per level. Even with higher attack power, it'd be difficult with lower stats.

IsaacGS

2009-04-10, 12:47 AM

I uploaded animations of the new skills, at least the interesting ones. The polar bear skill broke the animator for some reason, so we'll see about getting that one up later.

Scaeva

2009-04-10, 12:58 AM

Hmm, the thing of which you said that it looks like Crusher looks more like Fury too me though :f6:

These guys seem to have a lot of skills, I wonder what's going on in the heads of the Maple programmers.

Devilswork

2009-04-10, 04:44 AM

wait, if there is gonna be an ice warrior that can be the counter part for the soul one..

.. which elements will be the thief, archer, pirate and MAGICIAN will have? 0.o

we already know that.. the other elements taken were: poison, lightning, flame and wind...

well, they may get a black/darkness magician, they can't make an ice magician :f7:, that would be a GIGANTIC EPIC FAIL

that is just... simply interesting :f6:

OMFG, can't wait to know it :glitter:

:goggle:

Chameleonic

2009-04-10, 04:49 AM

Holy Bowman with Genesis please. :f2:

Dusk

2009-04-10, 04:51 AM

Holy Bowman with Genesis please. :f2:

The catch is, most Bowmen don't have 3500 MP :f2:

Amnesia

2009-04-10, 05:10 AM

So wait, lets say its the oppiste of Knights of Cygnus, will there be a PvP system where both races have to fight eachother :glitter: ?
*You can always imagine :cool:*

Kirov

2009-04-10, 06:06 AM

The catch is, most Bowmen don't have 3500 MP :f2:

But this is a warrior with blizzard. If they can give that to a warrior I am sure a bowman can have it to. But it's all messed up so I guess it will probably end up not being an ultimate anyway.

WayOfTime

2009-04-10, 08:09 AM

So on part of the dark magician class being on opposite elements with Cygnus, who is with me when I say there is a possibility of an Earth Marksman?

Devilswork

2009-04-10, 12:34 PM

so, they will be shooting rocks instead arrows?

an Earth thief would be better for that element tho :f6:

Maybe..mm.. Soul Warrior:The warrior with a Pure heart :f6: - Ice Warrior (I would love if they call it "Viking" too) A Cold hearted Son of his mother :goggle:

..no wait... now im lost :f7:

IsaacGS

2009-04-10, 05:04 PM

So on part of the dark magician class being on opposite elements with Cygnus, who is with me when I say there is a possibility of an Earth Marksman?
Well, thinking of it with Wind, a wind aligned archer makes a lot of sense because they can use their wind power to guide the arrows. Earth doesn't really have any logical connection...

Ice and fire seem out of the question as well, since Rangers and Snipers have that covered already. It'd be pretty lame to see it again. I mean, they didn't really have many options with Flame Magician, since all elements were already used by mages. They do have choices here though.

Thunder Arrow anyone? XD

Teppi

2009-04-10, 05:21 PM

Thunder Arrow anyone? XD

THUNDER STORM of ARROWS with chain lightning effect = OWN

Vernacular

2009-04-10, 05:44 PM

MasPan

2009-04-10, 06:58 PM

Well, thinking of it with Wind, a wind aligned archer makes a lot of sense because they can use their wind power to guide the arrows. Earth doesn't really have any logical connection...

Ice and fire seem out of the question as well, since Rangers and Snipers have that covered already. It'd be pretty lame to see it again. I mean, they didn't really have many options with Flame Magician, since all elements were already used by mages. They do have choices here though.

Thunder Arrow anyone? XD

Snipers have Eruption, which results in arrows flying out of the ground - I'd say Earth is definitely possible. Wouldn't be surprised to see them given transform and shockwave in fitting with the earth theme.

IsaacGS

2009-04-10, 07:28 PM

ohmy, I'm ready for this to be available in Tespia so I can test. :goggle:

And as I've seen they have possibly added the combo system? Haven't been on Tespia so (due to school pomegranate) not really sure if that is relevant.
But if they did!
All of these weak attacks could be used in combo maybe, seeing as the names are like "double" "triple" "final"
Just trying to get an idea across, doubt that is it though. ^^
yeah, seems likely that the idea behind this class is to chain skills together into combos to deliver damage.

Also, if you're in tespia this term, we'll have to meet up because I got in as well. I'm glad we have something nice to test. xD

WayOfTime

2009-04-10, 08:16 PM

yeah, seems likely that the idea behind this class is to chain skills together into combos to deliver damage.

Also, if you're in tespia this term, we'll have to meet up because I got in as well. I'm glad we have something nice to test. xD
Never knew you were in the KMST. But, then again, it should have been more obvious.

If they bring all of the classes to 4th job, I think they will fit the marksman with some very cool things. If all the jobs have some sort of animal-based attack, (only a theory, mind) then the marksman would probably have a type of lizard or dragon, probably only sounding good if it was confirmed they are earth-based.

If I know the dedication of the KMS team, and if they don't put a rush on this like they did for Cygnus, they will make sure that everything is 100%, for lack of better words, AWESOME!

Baklava

2009-04-10, 08:51 PM

Never knew you were in the KMST. But, then again, it should have been more obvious.

If they bring all of the classes to 4th job, I think they will fit the marksman with some very cool things. If all the jobs have some sort of animal-based attack, (only a theory, mind) then the marksman would probably have a type of lizard or dragon, probably only sounding good if it was confirmed they are earth-based.

If I know the dedication of the KMS team, and if they don't put a rush on this like they did for Cygnus, they will make sure that everything is 100%, for lack of better words, AWESOME!

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OH MY GOD

Vernacular

2009-04-10, 09:50 PM

yeah, seems likely that the idea behind this class is to chain skills together into combos to deliver damage.

Also, if you're in tespia this term, we'll have to meet up because I got in as well. I'm glad we have something nice to test. xD

Yea yea. xD
I got in this term. :heart:
Add either Bold or Bowman, I play both when I have time.
Stupid school. :eek:

Devilswork

2009-04-10, 11:22 PM

L> thunder arrow d:

Amnesia

2009-04-11, 03:53 AM

WayOfTime

2009-04-11, 07:46 AM

WTP Why didnt anybody tell me you could register for Tespia again :f4: now I have to wait 1 more year?..

what element could a gunslinger possibly have?(if its the oppiste of Cygnus) Wind? Earth?
(fire and ice already used)
Probably, since most of the elements have been used, they will make gunslingers have an element of water. Get ready for the-, da da da dum~, Aqua Pirate!

Holypie

2009-04-11, 08:02 AM

yay water pistols?

Kirov

2009-04-11, 08:28 AM

I don’t really think they will add new elements for these new classes. I mean they had an ample chance to introduce something new with KoC but they never did. Perhaps they were just too rushed for that though, or maybe it didn't fit in with the story they are creating. We'll soon see I guess.

Out of the original elements I think the best for a gun using class would be poison. I mean Night Walkers already have a poison version of grenade so it wouldn’t be that far a stretch. But I would hope they would use a bit more imagination than just copying over that skill.

Holypie

2009-04-11, 09:17 AM

it doesn't have to be an element. it can be a fake element like windbreakers and night walkers

Kirov

2009-04-11, 09:36 AM

I would call that a theme rather than an element personally.

Fiel

2009-04-13, 03:51 AM

Something I just noticed while looking at the skill data for this new class:

The skill data for booster is different from the typical booster. They get a -3 boost beginning at level 15. This means a Normal(6) will turn into a Faster(3) instead of what would typically be Fast(4).

JoeTang

2009-04-13, 03:52 AM

Something I just noticed while looking at the skill data for this new class:

The skill data for booster is different from the typical booster. They get a -3 boost beginning at level 16. This means a Normal(6) will turn into a Faster(3) instead of what would typically be Fast(4).

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
DO PINEAPPLEING WANT

On a Polearm, could this class be any more broken?

Fiel

2009-04-13, 03:57 AM

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
DO PINEAPPLEING WANT

On a Polearm, could this class be any more broken?

Looking at the rest of the levels for the skill:

Levels 1 - 7 = -1 boost
Levels 8 - 14 = -2 boost
Levels 15 - 20 = -3 boost

Lemme keep looking around for other anomalies.

EDIT: Also, the "Energy Charge" skill from fourth job isn't actually energy charge. It's Advanced Weapon Mastery. It looks like copypasta from Bowman's fourth job with their advanced mastery - 30 levels, +10 WATK, 90% mastery. What tipped me off to this is that this "energy charge" skill requires maxed Mastery from second job.

Cyanne

2009-04-13, 04:42 AM

Almost all the skills are experimental, so no real use discussing imbalance of skills or whatever. Only things actually set in stone are that this is a polearm-using class and it's separate from the adventurers/cygnus.

JoeTang

2009-04-13, 05:03 AM

Maybe look into the possibility that other jobs have had a change in their Booster, since it does seem arbitrary that they're giving this -3, let alone breaking it into a -1 and -2 range.

WayOfTime

2009-04-13, 05:27 AM

What I am more interested in, other than a Capt. falcon-like pole-arm user, is the Sharp Eyes in thrid job.

Geno

2009-04-13, 05:55 AM

MasPan

2009-04-13, 05:59 AM

Looking at the rest of the levels for the skill:

Levels 1 - 7 = -1 boost
Levels 8 - 14 = -2 boost
Levels 15 - 20 = -3 boost

Lemme keep looking around for other anomalies.

EDIT: Also, the "Energy Charge" skill from fourth job isn't actually energy charge. It's Advanced Weapon Mastery. It looks like copypasta from Bowman's fourth job with their advanced mastery - 30 levels, +10 WATK, 90% mastery. What tipped me off to this is that this "energy charge" skill requires maxed Mastery from second job.

This + my Arcglaive = win. I really am looking forward to the balanced version of this class, and would consider quitting my DK for it excluding bossfights and item farming. I still of the belief that mastery from Beholder should act like advanced mastery for bowmen. Passive 10 attack from a skill is...pretty damn nice, regardless of taking 20 extra points to max.

Loose

2009-04-13, 12:44 PM

did they not just get cygnus? a whole new race? o_o
since this is pretty much a pole arm, i guess it is safe to say it is a warrior.
are the classes going to be like cygnus? or have sub classes like the original?

EX: Warrior = Hero - Paladin - Dark knight
Yes. Yes.

It's too early to tell. Way too early.

This + my Arcglaive = win.
+ Speed Infusion? :goggle:

I NEED a Bandit version for race! I CRAVE for it!

Serendipity

2009-04-13, 12:55 PM

cronnoponno

2009-04-13, 07:46 PM

Maybe they'll have a tradeoff like cygnus did(if it's like Cygnus) Maybe they'll have to add int, str, AND dex in order to do damage with their skills, and their builds basically DEMAND that they add to skills that demand all 3 of those stats?

I mean high damage %'s are good, but not when your stats are pumped into 3 different stats.

Just my guess, I so wanna try this.

Watch them make a bandit version, ice/lightnig version, and all the other neglected jobs(crossbow and gunslinger, gunslingers fourth has a really dark looking skill I'd love to see that redone).

ItachiPower

2009-04-13, 07:57 PM

This is going to be a rip-off of Cygnus and there will probably be one more for classes that have 3 branches. Can't wait until these races come out! But there's no doubt everyone will be waiting at least a year.

MasPan

2009-04-13, 08:43 PM

Mazefind's opinion:
Looks like a warrior-class new job, but on second thought, it's weird. Although the new class uses polearms, stabbing skills definitely outnumber slashing skills. Also, the skill effects do not have a common color (most classes dont have variety of color in skill effects)

I think nexon will get this done by the middle of May, and release it in July - when the Korean summer vacation starts.

Funny, I don't see a single stabbing skill (even the projectile ones are launched with a swing). The names of the 2 of the skills are also "Fullswing double" and "Fullswing triple"

Chameleonic

2009-04-13, 08:46 PM

Heh, looks like it could be the first real INT warrior. :wink:

Devilswork

2009-04-13, 09:07 PM

weren't the real int warriors called..... Battle Clerics? :f6:

MasPan

2009-04-13, 09:08 PM

weren't the real int warriors called..... Battle Clerics? :f6:

L > Priest/Bishop with enough STR/DEX to equip an Arcglaive.

Kirov

2009-04-14, 08:14 AM

Maybe they'll have a tradeoff like cygnus did(if it's like Cygnus) Maybe they'll have to add int, str, AND dex in order to do damage with their skills.

I don't really see this is a bad thing. I would like new classes that use different combinations of AP. I hate how maple has basically turned into putting all your points into one thing.

WayOfTime

2009-04-14, 02:39 PM

I don't really see this is a bad thing. I would like new classes that use different combinations of AP. I hate how maple has basically turned into putting all your points into one thing.
That is mainly the people who think adding a second stat is "a waste of time".

JoeTang

2009-04-14, 02:44 PM

Serendipity

2009-04-14, 03:02 PM

OK...KMST notice

Please focus all testing all skills
Mr.Goldstein will level up all non-Cygnus chars for testing

※ When testing, keep the following in mind:

1. Are there any problems with multi-mob hitting skills?

2. Any problems with ranged skills?

3. Do other chars see the skill effects as same as you do?

4. Are there any oddities when using Pole Arms?

Thank you

No.4 seems weird....

Fiel

2009-04-14, 03:07 PM

Yes, I just saw patch 218. I'm extracting now.

Serendipity

2009-04-14, 03:13 PM

There's 2 new copies of the Battleship. Not sure... Could this be early signs of the 2000 race's mounts?

No...this is for the 'alien attack' event. If you rescue Gaga 10 times, you recieve the skills 'Spaceship' and 'Spaceship beam'. The spaceship has the speed of a normal mount (150% speed, 120% jump). But if you press →→ on the spaceship (just like a pirate's dash), your speed rises to 190%. The 'Spaceship beam' skill.... is for the event. You use it on crystals to mine them.

Both skills have expiration dates (you can use it for around 3 days, I think/)

Fiel

2009-04-14, 03:18 PM

Still no skill strings. A few new skills were added, but they oddly have "hidden" attached to the skills info. I've never seen anything like that before. Isaac?

Nikkey

2009-04-14, 04:11 PM

hidden as in the string "hidden"?

IsaacGS

2009-04-14, 04:21 PM

Still no skill strings. A few new skills were added, but they oddly have "hidden" attached to the skills info. I've never seen anything like that before. Isaac?
patching up now, don't wanna comment on it before I've had a chance to look.

I noticed in the last patch that they made some changes to basic pole arm animations, so they're probably looking out for ways that those changes (such as "ice charge" swings/stabs) might affect regular warriors.

KatanaKiwi

2009-04-14, 05:29 PM

i cant wait! *spams f5 key till i see an update :D*

Baklava

2009-04-14, 06:01 PM

derr's something called bain weapons in .218

like a bain staff, bain claw, bain sword. idk what it is really

Takebacker

2009-04-14, 06:15 PM

derr's something called bain weapons in .218

like a bain staff, bain claw, bain sword. idk what it is really

Omfg. Level 130 weapons?!

blitzkrieg

2009-04-14, 06:27 PM

apparently they're balrog boss weapons

staff - bain wings
sword - bain sword
claw/knuckle? - bain biter

kingdj333

2009-04-14, 06:40 PM

Soo.... what is it? O_o

xLeviathan

2009-04-15, 05:37 AM

Still no skill strings. A few new skills were added, but they oddly have "hidden" attached to the skills info. I've never seen anything like that before. Isaac?

hidden as in the string "hidden"?

Well, it runs like this:

"skill.21120010.info (hidden)KoreanStuffHere"

The Korean just translates as the name of the attack from what I can tell. The one I translated was for the Triple Attack/Overswing attack and that's exactly what it read.