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Pomegranate
2009-03-28, 11:07 AM
So with typhons being great experience from 8x-100+ would going right out for 30 AR a.s.a.p be good?
Like I could do Gryphons> pirates/typhons
Then after 30 AR start the reg bowman build. All suggestions are appreciated:goggle::goggle::goggle:
Derimed
2009-03-28, 11:29 AM
Back when I was training bow, you chose Strafe or AR first. Strafe people went to Squids, AR people went to Pirates. I did Strafe first, I liked it.
If you can find a Newties map, with max Strafe you can stand on the sniping spot and kill newts. It's very boring and anybody can KS you out, but it's not nearly as dangerous as actual training and you will only spend money on mana potions while you're sniping. Some archmages might allow you to snipe the newt on their map because it lets them stand further on their ledge and that can save them pots.
Pomegranate
2009-03-28, 11:34 AM
Yeah, when I played the ps I really loved squids but if going AR means getting through those levels abit faster then I might do it.
I got a few levels to decide though. Gryphons and typhons or squids and newties. Although getting a newt channel at 9x might be hard :( which is why id probs do squids or an alternative. I havent seen the new cwk inner keep maps. If someone has a picture of all of them it would be awesome.
Dyxanije
2009-03-28, 12:11 PM
Windraiders are the best exp you can get until you get your AR to level 11, then Typhons beat Windraiders. Pirates are a good source of money and decent exp.
Pomegranate
2009-03-28, 12:16 PM
Mk ty, but is ar better exp than strafe?
Dyxanije
2009-03-28, 12:23 PM
Mk ty, but is ar better exp than strafe?
Yes.
Pomegranate
2009-03-28, 12:25 PM
Thank you. I just wanna get the shit away from windraiders asap. I hated them on my corsair.
Cyanne
2009-03-28, 01:17 PM
Almost no point in going strafe first now. Get your arrow rain to 11 ASAP, then head from windraiders to typhons and finish maxing arrow rain. If you have the money to cover potions, then you don't even have to leave masteria to train anywhere else from 50-103, really.
Pomegranate
2009-03-28, 01:33 PM
Thanks cyanne, that was exactly the kind of answer i was looking for :chin:
I know on my gunslinger i did the wr snipe spot at 52, would it be feasable with shit for equips at 50?
I can always just stay at lupins till 52-54 if i have to.
Stereo
2009-03-28, 02:12 PM
At that level the defense penalty might be a concern, WR are level 70 so you lose 1/5 of your damage just based on level difference, then about 150 more from def.
I did them from 58 on my Assassin because... it was already that level when they came out. Worked ok for me.
Cyanne
2009-03-31, 12:56 AM
Uhh, probably... I'm not sure about hunters though. Lupins might be better. If your equipment is REALLY bad though, you might take too much of a percentage-wise dent in your damage from windraiders' defense. Once you get a decent level of pkb though, which should be somewhere around 55-60, depending on how much you've put into soul arrow and booster timers, lower ascent becomes much better than everything else.
XtremeBeast
2009-03-31, 01:08 PM
What is the typical exp rate at mid 8x's at typhons with AR?
I went pure strafe/hawk and have lvl 0 AR. At lvl 87 with lvl 16 hawk (90% stun), i got 35-36% an hr sniping both jr newts on the middle ledge on 1exp. I don't use any mw/se mule or anything to "boost" my damage besides war elixir. The downside is if i felt like training during the day, i'd have to hope there's free newt ch or else head to squids. The upside is there's always free newt channels at nights. The main reason why i like newts is because i can train in window mode and watch *cough* hulu at the same time with 50% attention to both.
Cyanne
2009-03-31, 09:18 PM
I got around 50-60% an hour at that level, but I had somewhat above average equipment, so everyone could get at least 40% an hour there.
randompeep
2009-03-31, 09:30 PM
^
I am a 58 hunter, and I can confirm Cyanne's rate. So long as you don't die, you will gain 40-50% an hour. Beware though, Elder Wraiths on Forgotten Path are papayas (died 4 times in 50% there).
Marker of Heroism would really help, just in case you fall off. They say spamming booster causes the warp to teleport you to Lower Ascent's entrance, I find PKB to work as well, and the Marker is a stopgap if neither works.
Cyanne
2009-03-31, 09:44 PM
I was actually talking about typhons in mid-80s, but it also applies to lower ascent too, coincidentally xD
Pomegranate
2009-04-01, 09:17 PM
40% at 8x is godly, my outlaw was getting nothing near that.
Cant wait. Just needa lvl up somemore :)
Ahh, Typhon Invis wall is gone... so would strafe first take the cake atm?
Worthyness
2009-04-11, 11:18 AM
Not really. It's not hard to stay within the same spot everyime. If you fall just use the statues to get back. The map is only ever full when 2x exp events are going on, so it really doesn't matter if the glitch and wall are there (unless you used that wall a lot. I use the middle plat more often).
Cyanne
2009-04-11, 05:52 PM
Esc up enter when you fall is probably faster, depending on how quickly you type in your password and pin. Point is, you're not gonna lose the entire like 20%+ an hour advantage that the typhons map has over places where you can strafe just because of this change.
ClearAim
2009-04-12, 07:50 AM
I lack the effort to go to windraiders/typhons so I usually just stick with wolf spiders... partying a warrior to kill the top is great because you can use (AE/AR) at the bottom to destroy the pool of spiders. Otherwise, soloing is possible with at least 1 in blizzard or inferno, but its probably easier for a sniper being that they have freeze. Umm... I started WS when I had about 6/7 AE so you don't need that much, and the exp was probably near 17%/hr when soloing, climbing every level. I found ilbissss woot :D
ZSaberLink
2009-05-18, 01:32 PM
So most of the %s seem to be for lower ascent and typhons right? Any idea whether sniping raiders in the forest map is ever good exp for a hunter? Like in 4x/low 5x?
CrimsonJohnny
2009-05-18, 02:33 PM
I went to that map at low 5x, I found it to be better than voodoos and great exp. Boring as all hell, but very nice if alternatives are not an option.
Kingzeh
2009-06-09, 06:23 PM
Yeah it can get a little boring but I started training there Yesterday morning at 48 Now I'm lvl 53 getting a solid 50-60%/hr on 1x. I probably could be higher but I talk and get distracted way too easily.
Sinnuendo
2009-06-19, 09:43 AM
I suggest 1 Strafe before getting AR, since it got the KMS boost this patch (71% at 1 instead of 52%).
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