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doryue
2009-03-18, 08:03 PM
Just a few days ago I had an argument with another fan-holding shadower.
He said "Faster" daggers was faster than "Fast" daggers EVEN WITH BOOSTER. o.o

So I made a video to prove that both types of daggers have the same speed when booster's on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsar5I_yWJk

But after showing the first video ^
Some players said that the different "standing stabs/slashes" have different speeds each, and said that I should make one with me couching and attacking.:goggle:
So... I did, I made another one with crouching + attacking and with bstep.(Since it's so flashy :D):shine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6c8p4EMZoA

jikos
2009-03-18, 08:18 PM
Why do people feel the need to put completely useless and annoying background music for videos that are meant to be simple and prove something. If you want to be taken seriously, be serious. Either way you could've just ignored the idiot that had the arguement with you. Most people already know what you just tried to prove anyway o.0

doryue
2009-03-18, 08:23 PM
1.Trying to prove that both types of dagger are the same speed when using booster.
2. I had to pick "FREE" musics so I don't get my sound disabled.[for the 5th time]

DrRusty
2009-03-18, 09:59 PM
which means speed infuse doesn't help shadowers. Why did fransisco say they did? :f6:

AbieFelix
2009-03-18, 10:18 PM
i'd always wondered how much a faster weapon would help/if i should be disappointed str daggers stop being "faster". i see that both answers are no.

thank you!

iFrancisco
2009-03-19, 12:37 AM
which means speed infuse doesn't help shadowers. Why did fransisco say they did? :f6:

Yea, upon the release of pirates I was able to test out SI after about a week and I had thought it affected the dagger speed. Since then, with conclusive analysis from others, I was of course wrong in this assumption. It doesn't help daggers unless they are of the Fast(5) speed or slower, much to my displeasure.

doryue
2009-03-19, 12:02 PM
Here is Heroyoda's request: a Kebob speed video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhxOBRjhLT4

Devil
2009-03-19, 08:35 PM
Try this with the "Bstep+Sblow+Sblow (repeat)" combo. Afaik, a faster (3) dagger lets the user start the 1st sblow (after the bstep) a tiny fraction sooner. You see the 1st sblow pic before you see the user himself.

Can you please try it putting them beside each other? Do about 20 combo's. Tnx! :)

Edit: Can you also try a Fast (4) dagger with assassinate (spammed) with and without SI? Tnx again! :)

Dusk
2009-03-20, 08:40 AM
Fast (3) and Fast (4) are for sure the same speed with Booster. There's the speed cap. Your results are inconsistent with what other people have said about SI, though. There is speculation that in addition to the -2 speed, SI lowers the cap to Fastest (1).

doryue
2009-03-20, 10:47 AM
Try this with the "Bstep+Sblow+Sblow (repeat)" combo. Afaik, a faster (3) dagger lets the user start the 1st sblow (after the bstep) a tiny fraction sooner. You see the 1st sblow pic before you see the user himself.

Can you please try it putting them beside each other? Do about 20 combo's. Tnx! :)

Edit: Can you also try a Fast (4) dagger with assassinate (spammed) with and without SI? Tnx again! :)

I'm too lazy DX
I'll make one when I got time :]

Greg22
2009-03-20, 01:47 PM
SI doesn't affect any type of Shadower. Whether they're STR, LUK, or faggy Fandits/Kebobdits, you're not going to get any kind of boost with any attack.