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Eos
2008-06-30, 03:53 PM
I. Introduction
Welcome to Southperry.net, the leading source in Maplestory news and information!

By registering for an account, you have agreed to follow these rules and regulations. These regulations will help to keep Southperry a friendly environment where all may post and enjoy the community and what it has to offer.

It is generally understood these rules apply to the entire site - meaning any URL which falls in the domain of "Southperry.net" - unless otherwise specified in the rules listed below. These rules do not apply to the IRC.

II. Administration Policy
All administrators must follow the moderation policy below. Any infraction of the below policies will result in the same consequences as those moderators would receive.

--> A. Site Administrator - Position currently held by Eosian
The purpose of the Administrator is to moderate all other administrative staff and moderators, ensure the site continues to run, collect donations, and pay for the server. The Admin is also responsible for making sitewide administration policies (such as these rules here) and moderation policies.

--> B. Chief of Moderation - Position currently held by Mira
The purpose of the Chief of Moderation is to lead the moderation team to make fair and accurate warnings, infractions, and bannings. The chief of moderation is also responsible for answering questions regarding moderation, answering moderation appeals, and interpreting these rules and regulations.

III. Moderation Policy
--> A. Power
All moderators and administrators of this forum have the power to:

- Keep the peace within these forums
- Distribute infractions to those who break these rules and regulations
- Move, close, or edit threads upon infraction with these rules.

--> B. Moderator's Discretion
All moderators will have the power of Moderator’s Discretion in which he or she may elect to use any of his powers placed in him as moderator for the sole purpose of making the forums a better place. An improper use of Moderator’s Discretion will cause the moderator to be removed from his status as determined by the administrators of this website.

--> C. Compensation
All moderators will receive the thanks of Ultra Donor status for electing to help with the forum. Failure to follow this Moderation Policy below will be cause for removal of his status and, depending on the cause of removal, may have his account banned from the forums.

--> D. Misuse of Power
A moderator finding favorites within this community who receive special privileges or benefits such as improper removal of infraction points, taking advantage of the donor privileges and not doing his job that he was hired to do, etc. shall be subsequently removed from his position without restitution. This misuse of power shall be determined by the administrators of this website.

--> E. Relinquish Power
Each moderator may decide at any time to step down from his position with or without warning to the other moderators. If the moderator steps down and remains in full compliance with these rules and regulations, he shall retain his Ultra Donor privileges at an administrator's discretion. If a moderator relinquishes power and is not in compliance, he shall be subject to the consequences laid out in this document as well as be at the whims of the administrators concerning his fate.

VI. Method of Moderation
--> A. Rules
Failure to follow any of these rules will result in the number of infraction points added to your own point total as deemed by the type of infraction listed in the Rules below. Infraction points expire after 75 days. Users can be removed from posting in any board for any reason as determined by administration.


rr_discretion


rr_accusations


rr_ads


rr_adbot


rr_auctions


rr_baiting


rr_drama


rr_flaming


rr_flooding


rr_bashing


rr_hacking


rr_impersonation


rr_obscenity


rr_revolving_door


rr_rickrolls


rr_spam


rr_tos


rr_transactions


rr_trolling


rr_warez


--> B. Ban Policy
Those that accumulate 8 or more infraction points will be tempbanned for 10 days. This ban applies to the person, not the account. The user may not create a new account and return right after being tempbanned. A user found signing onto a different account while an account of his is currently tempbanned will have that account permabanned. This is to ensure the user serves all 10 days of the tempban. Infraction points remain after a ban has been served. This means until those points expire sufficiently to drop below 8 every additional infraction will cause another 10 day ban.

If a user reaches 16 or more infraction points, that account will be permanently banned. Permanent bans affect users and not accounts. All accounts registered or posted from that IP address, and all IP addresses the user has history with, will also be banned regardless of who the account belongs. Any new accounts made by this person will be banned on sight. Users that continually make new accounts will be IP banned from the server.

Users have the possibility of jumping straight to permanent ban if he or she commits a permanent ban offense or if enough offenses accumulate the 16 points necessary.

Bans may be appealed by following the template outlined in the Ban Appeal Forum (http://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?f=9036). This forum is only accessible to those who are currently banned and allows a private means of communicating directly with the administration.

--> C. Mult Policy
Users are allowed to own multiple accounts ("mults"). However, in the event that a person's mult is infracted, the mult will be banned and the infraction is instead applied to the person's main account. The "main account" is defined as the account with the highest post count owned by that person.

Mults are also restricted from Shenanigans.

--> D. Appealing
Any moderator action which gives infraction points or in some way restricts access to the forums can be appealed. No infraction points or restrictions means no appeal can be made. If any user feels that an infraction is unjustified, he or she has the ability to appeal it. The infraction can be appealed by sending a PM to the current Chief of Moderation, or in their absence, Site Administrator. Please use the following format to appeal your infraction:


Post which I was infracted for:

Infraction received:

Why I feel I do not deserve this infraction: (Please keep to 250 words or less)



An appeal can reach one of three outcomes: Overturned, Upheld, or Deferred. Overturned means that the infraction will be reversed. The infraction will still show in your infraction history, but it will be set to "reversed" and the points will be removed. Upheld means that the Chief of Moderation sees no reason to overturn the infraction and the infraction points will remain. "Deferred" means that the Chief makes no decision and instead redirects the appeal to the Site Admin. The Chief of Moderation should reply using the following format:


Upheld, Overturned, deferred?:

Reasoning/Justification, including any precedent:



It's in the best interest of both users and the administration that appeals may take up to 72 hours before receiving any response. The Chief's decision is final as soon as the PM is sent and it cannot be changed or reworded. In the case that the appeal is upheld, the user may contact the Site Admin. The PM to the Site Admin must contain both his own original appeal PM, the PM from the Chief, and a new counterargument to what the Chief has stated. The Site Admin makes the final choice on all moderation, and there is no further appeal that can be done.

In the case that the Chief is away or not present, users may appeal to the Site Admin directly. In the case that the Chief is present, users must go through the Chief first. Attempting to go straight to the top will result in your appeal being ignored.

Corn
2010-07-27, 11:19 AM
Wait a second, you can make alt accounts under these rules? I could've sworn...

Eos
2010-07-27, 11:22 AM
Was there a question there somewhere? :f6:

Doctor Omega
2010-07-27, 12:27 PM
Was there a question there somewhere? :f6:

Yes there was, only it wasn't asked in the form of an actual question. But, since it seems it must be posted that way, I'll ask it. Under these rules, can we make alternate accounts? :pineapple:

Nikkey
2010-07-27, 12:47 PM
Yes there was, only it wasn't asked in the form of an actual question. But, since it seems it must be posted that way, I'll ask it. Under these rules, can we make alternate accounts? :pineapple:

Have you read this?


--> C. Mult Policy
Users are allowed to own multiple accounts ("mults"). However, in the event that a person's mult is infracted, the mult will be banned and the infraction is instead applied to the person's main account. The "main account" is defined as the account with the highest post count owned by that person.

Mults are also restricted from the Funhouse.

a08834567
2010-08-01, 10:34 AM
Okay, I'll try my best to follow the rules. Also, English isn't my native language, maybe the words I used and translated might be wrong. And some of the culture might be different from my homeland (Taiwan, a country beside China. BUT not China.)

2147483647
2010-08-13, 02:32 AM
Is there a doublepost policy?

Nikkey
2010-08-13, 07:02 AM
Is there a doublepost policy?

No, it's not really a problem. If people double-post a lot and it turns out to be a problem, it'll either go under spam or discretion, I suppose.

Eos
2010-08-13, 07:15 AM
it'll either go under spam or discretion, I suppose.

Or flooding, since the real nuisance of it is that it creates needless screen scroll.

BobWizley
2010-11-28, 02:41 PM
Could someone explain to me the rule III.C?
Don't know if I understood well :x

Fiel
2010-11-28, 02:46 PM
It doesn't apply to you since you aren't a moderator, but moderators have donation privileges.

Sarah
2010-11-28, 02:48 PM
Could someone explain to me the rule III.C?
Don't know if I understood well :x

About moderator compensation?

It means anyone who is a moderator also inherently gains "ultra donor" status and gets all benefits associated. If they break the rules (for example, if Rayquaza freaked out one day and called Eos a flaming faggot piece of shit and started spamming the forums) they will have all benefits removed and may also be banned.

BobWizley
2010-11-28, 02:55 PM
Ohh

I know it has nothing to do with me but I felt confused.
Thanks ;)

Myles
2011-02-23, 05:10 AM
Has signature size limit been changed again? Or is someone just slow on giving me a warning...

Eos
2011-02-23, 06:55 AM
No it hasn't changed.

We have to be aware of an issue in order to warn for it and since yesterday is the first time we've been able to scan for this automatically yesterday was when most people got warned for the first time.

Draego
2011-02-24, 08:31 AM
What job do the points serve?

Eos
2011-02-24, 08:36 AM
What job do the points serve?

Try reading 6b.

Draego
2011-02-24, 08:45 AM
Try reading 6b.

Um Eos 6b has a flaw.
Users with dynamic IP's cannot be detected by this method even if they try creating new accounts to overcome the ban.
Best would be if you could make a DNS track which is almost always consistent but thats not possible now is it?

Eos
2011-02-24, 08:50 AM
How we do it isn't your concern, all you need to know is that we can and will.

Draego
2011-02-25, 04:55 AM
How we do it isn't your concern, all you need to know is that we can and will.

Okay Eos :f2:

MetaSeraphim
2011-05-30, 01:35 PM
Shouldn't the title reflect that the rules were recently changed?

Fiel
2011-05-30, 01:53 PM
Looks like the R&R was updated. R&R Extraction post here I go!

Registered User and Donor User policy sections removed.
Definition for baiting changed - "The appearance of attempting to antagonize or incite a specific person or group of persons, or pushing the limits of the rules."
Definition for drama changed - "A post that appears intended to attract drama or attention and nothing more. Includes He said she said scenarios and public disclosure of private conversations to attract attention."
Obviously the new Obscenity rules.
Spam additional comment changed - "Minor side tangents are not a violation of this rule unless the whole thread is impacted, or a request to return to the primary topic has been made and ignored."
Trolling additional comment changed - "Whether a post is actually inflammatory or antagonistic is up to the moderators determination of general public response, it doesn't particularly matter if you didn't consider it such."
Banning method is changed. If you get an 8 point tempban, return, lose some points over time, but hit 8 points again you are tempbanned again. From what I'm reading, it looks like you can only be permabanned if you hit 16 points total.

Only a few nitpick things:

III.C - "Failure to follow this Moderation Policy or to follow the Donor Policy written below..." <--- The donor policy no longer exists
Section D - "An appeal can reach one of three outcomes: Overturned, Upheld, or Deferred." <-- The template PM shows "Upheld, denied, deferred?" and needs to show Overturned.
How is baiting different from trolling? Their descriptions are very similar.
The thread title needs to be updated with today's date.
May want to include thread bannings in Section D. Thread bannings were not a part of the site when the original R&R was written.
The section IV heading was removed. This makes it seem like Section B comes out of nowhere below.
II - "...result in the same consequences as those moderators or donors would receive." <-- donors here doesn't make sense.
Section D - "No infraction points or restrictions removed means no appeal can be made." <-- "No infraction points or restrictions applied"?

All fixed. :chin:

shouri
2011-05-30, 01:58 PM
Looks like the R&R was updated. R&R Extraction post here I go!

*extraction*

Lol Fiel, next thing you know you'll be doing extractions of books that have updated editions.

Anywho, I hope the regulars actually read these changes (which Paul's extraction helps tons with lol). Also, I'm assuming you want there to be no distinction between donor/regular users which is why the donor specific section of the R&R has been removed? Or was there some other reason?

IllegallySane
2011-05-30, 02:05 PM
Banning method is changed. If you get an 8 point tempban, return, lose some points over time, but hit 8 points again you are tempbanned again. From what I'm reading, it looks like you can only be permabanned if you hit 16 points total.


Well, if I'm reading this correctly the new banning method just gave leeway for very "vocal" people. Get 8+ points but never 16, tone behavior down until points are gone/diminished, repeat ad nauseum. This is the most extreme view of this new banning method though. This is however under the old presumption (because I hadn't really paid much attention to the banning policy other than remembering the 10-day temp bans + what 8/16 points did for you) that before this newest change old infraction points counted towards the 16 needed for a perma ban. Now this seems like only the really dumb posters will be accumulating permabans because you have to try really hard to rack up 16 points in a few months as a regular poster.

Eos
2011-05-30, 03:21 PM
Only a few nitpick things:

How is baiting different from trolling? Their descriptions are very similar.


Baiting is towards a specific person or group of people, trolling it throwing out something waiting for anyone to bite. It's mods discretion as to which an individual circumstance qualifies as.



May want to include thread bannings in Section D. Thread bannings were not a part of the site when the original R&R was written.


Those were already present from when we started removing whole forum restrictions.


Any moderator action which gives infraction points or in some way restricts access to the forums can be appealed. No infraction points or restrictions means no appeal can be made.



I'm assuming you want there to be no distinction between donor/regular users which is why the donor specific section of the R&R has been removed? Or was there some other reason?

The market has removed any such distinction, effectively. You can have everything but access to the donor forum without actually being in the donor group so there's really no reason to emphasize them as a different class of user.

MetaSeraphim
2011-05-30, 03:30 PM
You can have everything but access to the donor forum without actually being in the donor group

Not arguing against donors being a different class of user or anything, but I just wanted to point out that there are four things you don't have access to through the market besides the donor forum.

Bigger avatar size. Bigger sig space. No website ads (Discounting the fact that most people use adblock). And the ability to post on your own profile.

The last two things are very minor, but as I said I am just pointing out things that you only get access to through donor status.

Eos
2011-05-30, 03:32 PM
Both space expansions are pending Market features, just like the increasable PM limit became a market feature.
Only the highest tier of donors get the built in ad blocking, and that's a feature specified as incentive when you purchase the level, via the market.

Synthesist
2011-05-30, 05:16 PM
rr_discretion

Just a bit confused - does crossing "the line" mean anything deemed unacceptable, that isn't already defined by the present rules and regulations?

Also, just a random thing:



Mults are also restricted from the Funhouse.

Funhouse no longer exists, yes?

Eos
2011-05-30, 05:23 PM
Just a bit confused - does crossing "the line" mean anything deemed unacceptable, that isn't already defined by the present rules and regulations?

If it were already defined it'd have it's own category, not be under discretion. There's no possible way for us to document every possible thing you could do that shouldn't be done, this reiterates that just because it isn't explicitly listed here does not mean it's open season on doing things a rational person should be able to deem inappropriate.

MetaSeraphim
2011-05-30, 05:27 PM
"Mults are also restricted from Shenanigans."

To fit with the theme and to make a bad pun/joke I suggest it be changed to "Mults are also restricted from taking part in Shenanigans."

Though of course, puns/jokes have no place in the rules.

street
2011-05-31, 04:36 AM
So with the new obscenity rule. Avatars such as this can get you an infraction? Or will it just be removed? If its a constant act and pushing the limit will we receive an infraction?

http://www.southperry.net/member.php?u=6184

Eos
2011-05-31, 05:45 AM
So with the new obscenity rule. Avatars such as this can get you an infraction? Or will it just be removed? If its a constant act and pushing the limit will we receive an infraction?

http://www.southperry.net/member.php?u=6184

They'll be removed, and warned so the user is clear that they didn't just magically vanish.
People with prior warning will begin to accrue infractions for it until they get the clue to stop, or get removed via the chainsaw of natural selection.

maplefreak26
2011-08-09, 05:00 PM
Got bored.

--> D. Misuse of Power
A moderator finding favorites within this community who receive special privileges or benefits such as improper removal of infraction points, taking advantage of the donor privileges and not doing his job that he was hired to do, etc. shall be subsequently removed from his position without restitution. This misuse of power shall be determined by the administrators of this website.


Shouldn't it be he/she

Eos
2011-08-09, 05:09 PM
No, because pronouns are irrelevant in job descriptions.
Don't spam serious threads with nitpicking crap.

Hana
2011-08-29, 02:55 PM
What is the current signature size?

Sardines
2012-03-18, 01:35 PM
When was white knighting added as a rule violation? And does user intercession really need to be moderated?


Point Value: 1 point White Knighting is the act of taking up the defense of others or a cause, whether they want it or not.

I'm assuming causes are in relation to the defense of other people on site and not pertaining to ideals or individuals outside of the community. Such as a cause to save endangered animals or a cause to raise support for children who have muscular dystrophy in a hospital would be examples that wouldn't be frowned upon.


While this sounds good in theory, it's really quite obnoxious and more often than not is done out of a misguided understanding of what's actually going on.

Unsubstantiated and subjective.


People are quite capable of standing up for themselves and encouraged to do so in the appropriate manner.

Conditional.


They do not need your defense, and especially do not need you inserting yourself into their interpersonal issues, which should not be on the public boards in the first place.

Unsubstantiated and subjective.


If someone is being abusive, stay out of it. If the person you think they're victimizing has an issue it's their responsibility to report it, not yours to "help" them.

So reports also fall under "white knighting" and can earn a potential violation?


Do not contribute to the mess; It has no place on board in the first place, making it a bigger mess just makes you as guilty as the aggressor.

Subjective.

When you create rules like this you leave the decision making ability down to moderators who rely on intuitive devices to make a ruling. The nature of this rule alone is marred by heavy overtones of personal opinion that make it hard for moderators to come to an objective baseline when it comes to handing out violations in this category. More or less I dislike the fact that it denies collective support for another user. If rectro-active ruling were to be implemented, then people would potentially receive violations for protesting Greg's ban when he got into a conflict with Bulldog. Users shouldn't be punished for trying to stick up for other users. That's demonstrative of a close knit community. Something that I feel should be merited, not punished. Either that or we all go on irc and white knight each other / bash others, which defeats the purpose of having the resource of an open forum.

ShinkuDragon
2012-03-18, 01:49 PM
What is the current signature size?

from what i've seen, it's 147 pixels

Eos
2012-03-18, 02:31 PM
When was white knighting added as a rule violation?


Do you see it in that list up there in post #1?

Sardines
2012-03-18, 03:03 PM
Do you see it in that list up there in post #1?

No. o.o

Am I blind?

Or is the FAQ outdated? :|

http://i.imgur.com/UodoL.png

Eos
2012-03-18, 03:21 PM
No. o.o

Only entries in the list above are currently enforced. Everything else is either obsolete, or in review.

The FAQ system is just a database of everything ever recorded. Past, present and future.

Congrats, you spent an inordinate amount of time dissecting and contesting the non-existent.

Sardines
2012-03-18, 05:04 PM
Shh no tears. Only dreams now.